Since this does relate to our interest in preserving our heritage, I think we ought to discusss what we can do about the situation, rather than keep complaining. Anyone have any ideas? Personally I think the public schools have become a lost cause, but that may be a negative viewpoint that is incorrect. I am taking a masters degree from a college that teaches like George Wythe mentored the founding fathers, such as Jefferson. When I read their undergraduate degree, I was really upset that I had not had the opportunity to go there to school or have a similar education. I would have had a real well rounded education of value. I think one little solution is reading good books in a family and as individuals.We all have things we can do ourselves to improve. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > Mine too, Marilyn. > > Sue, we were not allowed to use an "ink pen" until 6th grade, then we had > to > use it for all English compositions..... so we had 3yrs to practice for > 8th > grade Regents (6th,7th and 8th) when we would be required to write ALL > English Regents exams in INK. .....meaning NO mistakes because "scratch > outs" meant lost points. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilynn Masten" <GardnerRus@carolina.rr.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch > > >> Sue, you read my mind. >> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >> When one door closes another door opens >> Marilynn >> IBSSG >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >> >> >>> How about learning to speak, read and write English as superbly as our >>> founding father's did, or even as weel as the men and women of the >>> 1800's. >>> My husband had a woman at work, who was a Phi Beta Capa grad, write a >>> resignation letter to him and there were something like 20 gramattical >>> errors in it; at this time, in any class, you only have to write so that >>> someone can make sense of it; and you don't have to know how to spell >>> correctly. When I went to school we could not even use a pen until we >>> wrote >>> well with a pencil and every teacher expected corrected gramatical >>> errors.. >>> Sue >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:24 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>> >>> >>>> Why not a German immersion program? >>>> Ed >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:55 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>> >>>> >>>>> Korean???? >>>>> >>>>> We don't have more than a handful of Koeans up here....mostly doctors. >>>>> >>>>> Maureen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> >>>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:09 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Spanish is actually taking a back seat to Korean around here. >>>>> > >>>>> > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>>>> > Historian, genealogist and attorney >>>>> > 155 Polifly Road >>>>> > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>>>> > (201) 567-9440 office >>>>> > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>>>> > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>>>> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>>>> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>>>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:53:07 PM >>>>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> > >>>>> > Funny you should mention it today, Bill. >>>>> > >>>>> > I got an email this AM from a friend down near Dallas who said the >>>>> > same >>>>> > thing......that his whole town is turning into a giant barrio. >>>>> > >>>>> > Maureen >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> >>>>> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>>> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM >>>>> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >> Maureen: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> You should be down here in Texas, they are taking over >>>> everything. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Bill >>>>> >> >>>>> >> quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: My youngest grandchild >>>>> >> will >>>> be >>>>> >> 12 next week and as far as I know has had no >>>>> >> "Spanish immersion" in Arlington School District here in Dutchess >>>> County. >>>>> >> My >>>>> >> older grandson had none either in Hyde Park or Arlington. My >>>>> >> granddaughter >>>>> >> on the other hand speaks fluent Spanish because she took Spanish >>>>> >> as >>>>> >> a >>>>> >> major. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I too would resent having Spanish or any other subject shoved down >>>>> >> my >>>>> >> kindergartener's throat .....but then again I would have been at >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> school >>>>> >> raising Hell......as a taxpayer I have the right to open my mouth. >>>>> >> So >>>>> >> many >>>>> >> of today's parents are such sheep...except for my son who does not >>>> allow >>>>> >> my >>>>> >> grandson to be pushed around by adults.....in school or out. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Maureen >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> From: "Barbara de Mare" >>>>> >> To: >>>>> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:38 PM >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> My youngest grandchildren--Pre-K and 1st grade (going into G and >>>>> >>> 2nd) >>>>> >>> are >>>>> >>> in a full Spanish immersion program. They have to take the third >>>> grade >>>>> >>> state-wide tests in both English and Spanish and pass both to stay >>>>> >>> in. >>>>> >>> Although there are some native speakers, there are more English >>>> speakera >>>>> >>> in the program. Supposedly by 3rd grade you can't tell which is >>>> which. >>>>> >>> It is certainly good for teaching our kids Spanish which, as much >>>>> >>> as >>>>> >>> I >>>>> >>> resent it, is a necessity in today's business world. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>>>> >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>>>> >>> 155 Polifly Road >>>>> >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>>>> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>>>> >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>>>> >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> >>> From: Jan Miller >>>>> >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>>>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:03:46 PM >>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Out here in Burlingame, last month school officials were delighted >>>>> >>> to >>>>> >>> discover $100,000. "extra" in the school budget to be able to >>>> continue >>>>> >>> "Immersion" classes in Spanish for KINDERGARTN AND 1ST GRADES! >>>>> >>> Two pages later there was an article about needing a Bond issue >>>>> >>> for >>>>> >>> needed >>>>> >>> items in the 2007-2008 year. >>>>> >>> Figure THAT one out! >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> "Both sides of mouth talking" >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> There were a lot of Italian immigrants whose kids came to my >>>>> >>> school. >>>>> >>> They >>>>> >>> learned rapidly, we gave them help and they could practice by >>>>> >>> translating >>>>> >>> at >>>>> >>> home to mama and papa. Worked really well and pretty fast, too!. >>>>> >>> Jan >>>>> >>> jgrellim@sbcglobal.net >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>> From: "Marilynn Masten" >>>>> >>> To: >>>>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:26 PM >>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> When I started school, in 1926, (yes, they had schools then) many >>>>> >>>> of >>>> my >>>>> >>>> schoolmates could barely speak English in Kindergarten, but by >>>>> >>>> first >>>>> >>>> grade >>>>> >>>> they spoke English as well as we did. How? By playing with us. >>>> Yes, >>>>> >>>> why >>>>> >>>> don't they do that these days. >>>>> >>>> Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras >>>>> >>>> When one door closes another door opens >>>>> >>>> Marilynn >>>>> >>>> IBSSG >>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>> From: >>>>> >>>> To: >>>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:49 PM >>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Ramblings about Dutch >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>> >>>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>>>> >>>> It has removed 3945 spam emails to date. >>>>> >>>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>>>> >>>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>>> >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> >>>> the >>>>> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> *************************************** >>>>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> >>> *************************************** >>>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> >>> the >>>>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> *************************************** >>>>> >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> >>> *************************************** >>>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> >>> the >>>>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >> >>>>> >> *************************************** >>>>> >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> >> *************************************** >>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Searching: FORSHAY (Forshee, Foshay) >>>>> >> (NY,NJ,OH,WI,MI,France,Canada)- >>>>> >> WILD, >>>>> >> DREXLER,FLEISCHMAN(N) (WI,Austria) - BIERSCHENK, NELSON (Nilsson) >>>>> >> (MN,NY,Sweden,Varberg). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --------------------------------- >>>>> >> Fussy? 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