There's a problem with your assumptions like many others. Declarations and petitions prior to Oct 1906 does not give more than date of declaration and naturalization, country of birth and will not show anyone else in the family if any. naturalizations prior to 1906 are kept at county or state level, not at city or town level. I have yet to find even one at city or town level. That's it. There is no Town of Westchester. It's City of Westchester from the beginning - and is in Westchester County to this day. FYI, these records are on microfilm available through Family History Centers. David Samuelsen On 1/12/2015 12:44 PM, Brian J Densmore via wrote: > I'm hoping someone is planning a trip to the County archives and can look > up the naturalization for the person I think is my gr-gr-gr-grandfather > Patrick Duffy. > > A naturalization in 1866 for Patrick Duffy might be my ancestor. Either my > gr-gr-gr-grandfather, or his son (Patrick Edward). > > Last First Year Type Archive Number Page No. > DUFFY PATRICK 1866 Declaration A-0006(1)S(DD10) 85 > DUFFY PATRICK 1866 Petition A-0082(1)S(C2) > > I'm asking for enough information from those two records to determine if > he is indeed one of the above named relatives. Patrick senior came over > with at least three children (Ann, John, and Patrick E), according to my > current theory. > > My problems with this that John appears to have been naturalized by 1861, > and Patrick E says he was naturalized in 1869. John says he came over in > 1852 at the age of 10, and Patrick E says 1870! So Patrick E says he was > naturalized before he arrived! Now that's funny! > > I've never found a naturalization for John in either Westchester or New > York. I may have missed something, that was more than a decade ago I made > that search. It was also before I knew his father's name. > > Patrick E stated that he was naturalized in Westchester, NY in 1869. I > take that to mean either the town of Westchester or the county. Meaning > the record could be in Westchester County, or been handed over to New York > City when it swallowed up parts of Westchester Township. I simply don't > know, and it's possible Patrick E got it wrong. This statement, by Patrick > E was made in 1879 in California. > > Thanks, > Brian > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> There's a problem with your assumptions like many others. I wasn't making assumptions, but requesting a look up and including as much information, and back story as I felt necessary. I may have included some theories which need to be tested in the mix, but that doesn't mean I assume they are either true or false. Just possibilities that need testing. > > Declarations and petitions prior to Oct 1906 does not give more than > date of declaration and naturalization, country of birth and will not > show anyone else in the family if any. Well, be that as it may. It is a necessary step to check several things. While the useful information may be less than what I would like, the point was to get what was available, to make a determination of whether or not this was a related individual or not. > > naturalizations prior to 1906 are kept at county or state level, not at > city or town level. I have yet to find even one at city or town level. Which is why I asked for someone going to the County Archives to look for me, and gave the references needed to find them at the County Archives. But, I guess you missed that part of my request. Thankfully, someone who didn't miss that has taken care of this request. > > That's it. > > There is no Town of Westchester. It's City of Westchester from the > beginning - and is in Westchester County to this day. Hunh!? You need to rethink that statement, it's full or errors. Take a look at a Westchester map from 1880. Here's one from 1881, clearly showing the "Town of Westchester". http://collections.westchestergov.com/cdm/singleitem/collection/1881atlas/id/1 More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bronx As it will tell most if not all of the Town of Westchester is now part of Bronx County. There are numerous sources for this, where you are getting your ideas from is complete mystery to me. > > FYI, these records are on microfilm available through Family History > Centers. Thank you, yes, I know. Regards, Brian

W. David:  Do you know when they started to record Naturalizations? I have some Duffy's in my line, do you think you could help me out with them? John Duffy  married Sarah Boyle, they had Murray William Duffy. Murray William Duffy - RS141B7 Helen Margaret Foshay, married: Murray William Duffy, 2 May 1922, Saint John county, 2964, Film Num: 19682. They had 4 children: Mae, Donald, Winifred. and Connie all born in Saint John, Canada.            Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX