Lily: I serve as Town Historian of the Town of Pelham. I think I can help you a little on a couple of issues, but don't have answers to your specific queries or the records you are seeking. You state that Robert Manning, born in about 1640, "had been living at Ann's Hook Neck, which is in CT, on the border with Westchester Co., NY." Ann Hook's Neck (many variations including Annhook's Neck, Annie Hook, Annie Hook Neck, Anhoock Neck, etc., etc.) is not in Connecticut, nor is it on the Connecticut Border. Ann Hook's Neck was a 17th century English name for today's Rodman's Neck located in the Bronx. (Rodman's Neck, also known as Pelham Neck, Pelham Point, Pell's Point, etc.) was part of our Town of Pelham in the County of Westchester until the area including Ann Hook's Neck was annexed by New York City in 1895. In short, Ann Hook's Neck was within the County of Westchester from the time Westchester County was founded in 1683 until 1895 when New York City annexed it away from the Town of Pelham. I would be very intrigued to learn what source or evidence suggests that your Robert Manning lived on Ann Hook's Neck. The reason it is so intriguing is that Thomas Pell bought the area from Native Americans on June 27, 1654, but never lived on the land he purchased. However, it is known that Pell built a "howse" (as the inventory of his estate referenced it) on Ann Hook's Neck. An inventory of that portion of his estate located in Westchester at the time of his death in late September 1669 suggests that his house on Ann Hook's Neck was part of a working farm with perishables on site at the time. Pell, however, did not live there as he lived in Fairfield for many years and never moved away from Fairfield. This suggests that either a caretaker or a lessor ran the farm. Pell did not sell his land on Ann Hook's Neck before his death. Nor did his nephew and principal legatee, John Pell, who moved into the house on Ann Hook's Neck but soon built his own home nearby (near today's Bartow-Pell Mansion Museum in the Bronx). Thus, if your Robert Manning was living on Ann Hook's Neck, he either was a caretaker on the Thomas Pell farm or, possibly, a renter who leased land from Thomas Pell or, later, his nephew, John Pell . Alternatively, of course, he could have been a squatter. Best regards, Blake A. Bell Pelham, NY Town Historian > -----Original Message----- > From: Lilly Martin Sahiounie via <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > > Hello readers, > > Robert Manning was born about 1640. He might have been from England, but he > had been living at Ann's Hook Neck, which is in CT, on the border with > Westchester Co NY. His father is law was John Ferguson 1630-1681 who died > at West Farms, Westchester Co, NY. Robert Manning and his father in law > were among the earliest settlers of West Farms, Westchester Co, NY. John > Ferguson's father in law was Thomas Hunt 1615-1695 who died at West Farms, > Westchester Co, NY. Thomas Hunt, and his son in law John Ferguson, and > his son in law Robert Manning were all early settlers of West Farms, > Westchester Co NY. It would appear they were all immigrants from England . > first in Ann's Hook Neck, CT and then into Westchester Co, NY. > > Robert Manning and his wife Mary Ferguson married April 01, 1676 in NY. > They had a least one child named John Manning. Robert died about 1690 and > left provision for his son John Manning, but I can not find the will. Does > anyone know of a way to find the Will of Robert Manning, of West Farms, > Westchester Co, NY dated between 1676 and 1692? > > Robert Manning's widow Mary Ferguson Manning re-married on Nov 9, 1692 to > Thomas Lawrence 1619-1703 who died at Newtown, Queens Co, NY. The will of > Thomas Lawrence provides for his children with his first wife, and for his > present wife, Mary Ferguson Manning Lawrence. I would like to find her > Will, as she should have left something to her son John Manning. > > I imagine that Robert Manning left some land for his son John Manning in > Westchester Co NY. I imagine that John Manning lived out his life in > Westchester Co NY, and married, but I have not found those records. > > I am looking for records and information about Robert Manning, and his son > John Manning. This family remained in Westchester Co NY until a descendant, > also named John Manning born about 1700 moved to Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co > NY and died there after 1760. That man left a large family who lived later > in Clinton, Dutchess Co, NY. > > I would appreciate information, advice and help. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. 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Blake, Thank you so much for your reply. I have been reading your blog on line, historic pelham. I started reading it because of Caleb Pell. I have a relative named William Brower born in Wappinger's Falls, who married a Sarah, surname unknown to me, but they named a son Caleb Pell Brower. In William's will he instructs his sons to follow up on an inheritance of some type in Westchester Co NY. I know the Brower ancestry, and they had nothing to do with Westchester, but Dutchess Co NY. This makes me believe that the inheritance is connected to his wife Sarah, and perhaps she is connected to Caleb Pell, as a grand daughter. I am sorry I misidentified Ann's Hook as CT. I thought I had 'googled' for the location, but maybe not. I looked at my notes for Robert Manning and I found the only source noted for the location Ann's Hook was this: More About Robert Manning: Residence: 1682, Annhook's Neck ( Pelham), New Yrok Source: The Settlers Of the Beekman Patent, by F. Doherty, Sr. I have listed below the various sources which document Robert Manning of West Farms. Apparently, at one time he was a large land owner there, according to tax lists. ********************************************* Reply to Blake Bell #1. Vol. 5 of F.J. Doherty's The Settlers of the Beekman Patent, Dutchess Co., NY (Fackert-Haas). Beginning w/ p. 21, there is a brief introduction of the Ferguson family. P. 22 gives this information ... "John Ferguson, Sr. was married to Sarah Hunt, dau. of Thomas Hunt. On 2 Dec. 1680 John Ferguson and Robert Manning, now living on Cornwell's Neck in Westchester, sold to Gabriel Leggatt land that formerly belonged to Thomas Hunt Jr. On 22 March 1682/3 Sarah Forguson, Wife (sic, should be widow) of John, and Robert Manning, released Gabriel Leggatt from a bill of L54 which he owed John Forguson for land. (footnote: RECORD 1913:315; 1914:74, 1929:108, 112.)" The Ferguson/Hunt marriage was in Stratford, CT in 1660 and came to Westchester Co., NY by Oct. 1664. John Ferguson Sr. died 12/6/1681. Sarah Hunt Ferguson came to Newtown NY after his death. http://www.ancestraltrackers.org/ny/resources/new-york-genealogical-biographical-record-v45.pdf Early Settlers of West Farms Westchester County New York , by Rev Theodore Leggett, by A. Hatfield, Jr. In 1711, the heirs of the original patent of West Farms united in a second division as follows: “…certain patent granted by Gov. Richard Nichols to Edward Jessup and John Richardson in the year of our Lord Christ 1666 except 30 acres which he said Thos Hunt formerly sold to John Feryedon and Robert Manning…” http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/Ancestry_of_John_Gustin_1000764071/87 Extract from the wiU of Gabriel Leggett. Dated April 16 j1677^* " I bequeth to my wife Elizabeth all my household goods "c. To my son John all my house and out houses or orchard land, and the meadows in the Planting Neck and the meadows "fec, also that messuage and tenement which Thomas Williams dwells upon and. was. formerly my father's inlaw John Richardson his now dwelling house ^d orchar4 and outhouses with the land and meadowswhich I bought of John Ferguson sen. and Robert. Manning together with fifty acres of wood-' land lying within the bounds of the patent, of West Farms I say 4;o my son Thomas. To my son William one hundred acres of woodland and five%cres of meadow lying behind the field within the bounds of the patent of West Farms together with all the undivided meadow, as als;Q .my house and house lot with an orchard thereon, lyingia the town p^ Westchester." To his daughter Martha he bequeaths his ^ little colored boy, to his daughters Mary, Sarah, Alice and Elizabeth twenty poigids each. .. History of Westchester Co., The Town of West Farms, p. 447: regarding will of Garbriel Leggett, made 4/16/1676 mentions the land and the meadow he "bought from John Ferguson, Sen., and Robert Manning." Documents Relative to the Colonial History of NY, Vol. 13, p. 488-489: Assessment Roll of West & East Chester in 1675: Rich'd Ponton (followed by a Colard), then Thomas Farington (9th on list), then Thos. Hunt, Sr. (followed by), John Forgasonn (with no taxables -- followed by), Robert Manning (showing the largest holding of land in the town, followed by), Thos. Hunt, Jr. Another tax list (presumably 1688) lists John Ferguson and Robert Manning as side-by-side, Robert listed as owning nothing and John Ferguson as the largest holding of land in the town. They probably lived together. The 1698 Census lists a John Manning as one of John Ferguson's household. Perhaps his parents died. The Census identifies John and Sarah as both living and in Westchester Co. in 1698. In 1681, Sarah Ferguson testified along with her son John Jr. in a court case at Newtown, the seat of government at that time. Sarah was not widowed at that time. More About Robert Manning: Residence: 1682, Annhook's Neck ( Pelham), New Yrok Source: The Settlers Of the Beekman Patent, by F. Doherty, Sr. More About Robert Manning and Mary Ferguson: Marriage: April 01, 1676, New York Source: The Settlers of the Beekman Patent, by F. Doherty, Sr. *********************************************************** I am researching online and trying to find additional documentation of Robert Manning, and his son John Manning. I feel that John Manning, s/o Robert Manning and Mary Ferguson, of West Farms, lived out his life in Westchester Co NY and had children there, but he and his children ended up in Dutchess Co NY where he was buried at the location of the current Courthouse, his grave was in the area which was used to re-build the courthouse. (Poughkeepsie). My focus is on Robert Manning, his life and death, and his son John Manning, who I feel was provided for by his father. After his mother Mary Ferguson Manning remarried to Capt Thomas Lawrence on November 09, 1692 she relocated to Newtown, Queens Co NY. If I can find her will, perhaps she will mention her son John Manning of Westchester Co NY. If I can find Robert Manning's will, he should provide for his son John Manning. Best regards, Lilly Martin -----Original Message----- From: Bell@lists2.rootsweb.com ; Blake A. via Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:30 PM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] West Farms Lily: I serve as Town Historian of the Town of Pelham. I think I can help you a little on a couple of issues, but don't have answers to your specific queries or the records you are seeking. You state that Robert Manning, born in about 1640, "had been living at Ann's Hook Neck, which is in CT, on the border with Westchester Co., NY." Ann Hook's Neck (many variations including Annhook's Neck, Annie Hook, Annie Hook Neck, Anhoock Neck, etc., etc.) is not in Connecticut, nor is it on the Connecticut Border. Ann Hook's Neck was a 17th century English name for today's Rodman's Neck located in the Bronx. (Rodman's Neck, also known as Pelham Neck, Pelham Point, Pell's Point, etc.) was part of our Town of Pelham in the County of Westchester until the area including Ann Hook's Neck was annexed by New York City in 1895. In short, Ann Hook's Neck was within the County of Westchester from the time Westchester County was founded in 1683 until 1895 when New York City annexed it away from the Town of Pelham. I would be very intrigued to learn what source or evidence suggests that your Robert Manning lived on Ann Hook's Neck. The reason it is so intriguing is that Thomas Pell bought the area from Native Americans on June 27, 1654, but never lived on the land he purchased. However, it is known that Pell built a "howse" (as the inventory of his estate referenced it) on Ann Hook's Neck. An inventory of that portion of his estate located in Westchester at the time of his death in late September 1669 suggests that his house on Ann Hook's Neck was part of a working farm with perishables on site at the time. Pell, however, did not live there as he lived in Fairfield for many years and never moved away from Fairfield. This suggests that either a caretaker or a lessor ran the farm. Pell did not sell his land on Ann Hook's Neck before his death. Nor did his nephew and principal legatee, John Pell, who moved into the house on Ann Hook's Neck but soon built his own home nearby (near today's Bartow-Pell Mansion Museum in the Bronx). Thus, if your Robert Manning was living on Ann Hook's Neck, he either was a caretaker on the Thomas Pell farm or, possibly, a renter who leased land from Thomas Pell or, later, his nephew, John Pell . Alternatively, of course, he could have been a squatter. Best regards, Blake A. Bell Pelham, NY Town Historian > -----Original Message----- > From: Lilly Martin Sahiounie via <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > > Hello readers, > > Robert Manning was born about 1640. He might have been from England, but he > had been living at Ann's Hook Neck, which is in CT, on the border with > Westchester Co NY. His father is law was John Ferguson 1630-1681 who died > at West Farms, Westchester Co, NY. Robert Manning and his father in law > were among the earliest settlers of West Farms, Westchester Co, NY. John > Ferguson's father in law was Thomas Hunt 1615-1695 who died at West Farms, > Westchester Co, NY. Thomas Hunt, and his son in law John Ferguson, and > his son in law Robert Manning were all early settlers of West Farms, > Westchester Co NY. It would appear they were all immigrants from England . > first in Ann's Hook Neck, CT and then into Westchester Co, NY. > > Robert Manning and his wife Mary Ferguson married April 01, 1676 in NY. > They had a least one child named John Manning. Robert died about 1690 and > left provision for his son John Manning, but I can not find the will. Does > anyone know of a way to find the Will of Robert Manning, of West Farms, > Westchester Co, NY dated between 1676 and 1692? > > Robert Manning's widow Mary Ferguson Manning re-married on Nov 9, 1692 to > Thomas Lawrence 1619-1703 who died at Newtown, Queens Co, NY. The will of > Thomas Lawrence provides for his children with his first wife, and for his > present wife, Mary Ferguson Manning Lawrence. I would like to find her > Will, as she should have left something to her son John Manning. > > I imagine that Robert Manning left some land for his son John Manning in > Westchester Co NY. I imagine that John Manning lived out his life in > Westchester Co NY, and married, but I have not found those records. > > I am looking for records and information about Robert Manning, and his son > John Manning. This family remained in Westchester Co NY until a descendant, > also named John Manning born about 1700 moved to Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co > NY and died there after 1760. That man left a large family who lived later > in Clinton, Dutchess Co, NY. > > I would appreciate information, advice and help. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. 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Hello Blake, Here is the url for the Settlers's of Beekmans Patent, Vol 5, by Frank J. Doherty. https://books.google.com/books?id=SuspAQAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Manning You will see a snippet of the actual page, which is page 23, which states Robert Manning was of Ann Hook's Neck (Pelham) by 1682. This Vol 5 covers the Ferguson Family. Robert Manning's father in law was John Ferguson of West Farms, Westchester Co NY. There is no MANNING families covered in the book Beekmans Patent. Do you feel this location is in error? If you have anything to add, or advice, I would love to hear it. Best regards, Lilly Martin -----Original Message----- From: Bell@lists2.rootsweb.com ; Blake A. via Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:30 PM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] West Farms Lily: I serve as Town Historian of the Town of Pelham. I think I can help you a little on a couple of issues, but don't have answers to your specific queries or the records you are seeking. You state that Robert Manning, born in about 1640, "had been living at Ann's Hook Neck, which is in CT, on the border with Westchester Co., NY." Ann Hook's Neck (many variations including Annhook's Neck, Annie Hook, Annie Hook Neck, Anhoock Neck, etc., etc.) is not in Connecticut, nor is it on the Connecticut Border. Ann Hook's Neck was a 17th century English name for today's Rodman's Neck located in the Bronx. (Rodman's Neck, also known as Pelham Neck, Pelham Point, Pell's Point, etc.) was part of our Town of Pelham in the County of Westchester until the area including Ann Hook's Neck was annexed by New York City in 1895. In short, Ann Hook's Neck was within the County of Westchester from the time Westchester County was founded in 1683 until 1895 when New York City annexed it away from the Town of Pelham. I would be very intrigued to learn what source or evidence suggests that your Robert Manning lived on Ann Hook's Neck.