Thanks so much to Dick Hillenbrand for mentioning that Google had old books that could be downloaded. I am collecting information for one or more books I'd like to write about New Yorkers by the name of Gardenier (includes Gordineer and other spellings). Downloading whole books will not benefit me as it might some others, but I visited the Google Books site to see if surname research could be done on it. It can. This email will tell you how to do it. http://books.google.com/ On the opening page, you can choose All Books (default), or Full View Books. Full View Books are not copyrighted any longer, so you are allowed more viewing opportunities. This email discusses Full View only. Click on Advanced Book Search if you wish. It will let you control your search better. However, you must choose Full View Books on this page if that is what you want. If you chose it on the opening page, it is not remembered when you go to this page. For my research, I enter a single spelling of a surname, although you can search for more than one word at a time. A list of books will appear. Usually, only a single hit is listed per book, even if the name appears on many pages. Clicking on a hit takes you to the page in the book on which the name appears. A few days ago when I did my first search, the names were highlighted in yellow so that I could find them easily. Today, they are not highlighted, not even the same hits that were highlighted recently. Nevertheless, it is a great benefit just to be taken to the correct page. OPTIONS You can zoom in, zoom out, view either one or two pages at a time, or view the page at full screen (it shows about seven more lines at the bottom of the screen). There is a frame to the right which contains links to many things. You will find a search box. You *must* type the name in that box if you want to see all of the other occurences of the name in the book. UNDERSTANDING THESE HITS In my searches within a book, there seemed to be a sort of Soundex search happening. A search for Gardinier might produce six hit. Part of some text is shown for each to give you some idea what the hit is about. Two might actually show the name Gardinier. In my case, the others showed no surname in the hit text. When I went to the page, the name on the page was Gardiner, a different surname (although some Gardiniers were recorded with that name). In my case, I search for people who are not related to me, so I don't know enough about them usually to be sure that a Gardiner mentioned is really a Gardinier. I now ignore the hits that don't show the spelling I want. That might be dangerous for you to do until you are sure of what is happening in your own situation. BOOK TITLE If you find an interesting record, you will want to record the source. However, the books seem to sometimes be titled for a series of which they are a part. I have found that the actual title may not even be similar to the one displayed. On the right, if you use the Title link, you will find the real title and the year of publication. In the cases where there is no link to the title page, go to page 1. If that is not it, you will have to use the back arrow (to the left of the page number box) to get to the title page. MISSING PAGES I have done only a little research, but have found pages missing. A record that interests me might begin or end on another page which is not there. In one case, some of the pages were out of order. To find them, I could enter the missing page number and search for it. In other cases, during the search the page number would revert back to a different page number, which means that the desired page can't be found. Google Books shows book images. But, they are searchable. That must mean that they have been converted to text unless there is a new technology about which I haven't heard. I haven't yet found a way to copy and paste the text, so I use an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) program if the text I want to copy is long. Otherwise, I type it. Google Books is a great new resource for genealogists. Cliff Lamere

Mine just arrived in today's mail and appear to be well worth the $13. Unfortunately I much prefer books to CDs when doing research, not only because my shoulder gets sore with all that scrolling, but because I'm not familiar with CD searching as yet. So please everyone, do not ask for lookups....I'm having a difficult enough time finding my own ancestors!! LOL. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Merritt" <jmerritt@htcomp.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 15 in 1 - WESTCHESTER CountyNEW YORKHISTORY-GENEALOGY/EBAY > Cliff I want one, was I in original list and how do I buy it! Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Cliff Lamere > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:41 PM > To: NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 15 in 1 - WESTCHESTER CountyNEW YORK > HISTORY-GENEALOGY/EBAY > > I said I would let you know how I made out. Well, eleven list members > were able to get the CD at a price of $11 plus $2 shipping. There is an > advantage to bargaining. If there are any other list members > interested in getting the same price, send me your name privately by > Monday. I'll be happy to make arrangements once more with the seller. > > Cliff Lamere > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the address. Thanks, Carol L. Heap "You live as long as you are remembered"

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I'm with you Maureen--I really don't like CDs, but keep buying them anyway hoping someday I will be able to use them. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 4:50:17 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 15 in 1 - WESTCHESTER CountyNEW YORKHISTORY-GENEALOGY/EBAY Mine just arrived in today's mail and appear to be well worth the $13. Unfortunately I much prefer books to CDs when doing research, not only because my shoulder gets sore with all that scrolling, but because I'm not familiar with CD searching as yet. So please everyone, do not ask for lookups....I'm having a difficult enough time finding my own ancestors!! LOL. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Merritt" <jmerritt@htcomp.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 15 in 1 - WESTCHESTER CountyNEW YORKHISTORY-GENEALOGY/EBAY > Cliff I want one, was I in original list and how do I buy it! Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Cliff Lamere > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:41 PM > To: NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 15 in 1 - WESTCHESTER CountyNEW YORK > HISTORY-GENEALOGY/EBAY > > I said I would let you know how I made out. Well, eleven list members > were able to get the CD at a price of $11 plus $2 shipping. There is an > advantage to bargaining. If there are any other list members > interested in getting the same price, send me your name privately by > Monday. I'll be happy to make arrangements once more with the seller. > > Cliff Lamere > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff I want one, was I in original list and how do I buy it! Judy -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Lamere Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:41 PM To: NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 15 in 1 - WESTCHESTER CountyNEW YORK HISTORY-GENEALOGY/EBAY I said I would let you know how I made out. Well, eleven list members were able to get the CD at a price of $11 plus $2 shipping. There is an advantage to bargaining. If there are any other list members interested in getting the same price, send me your name privately by Monday. I'll be happy to make arrangements once more with the seller. Cliff Lamere *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since this rate hike is in the "proposal" stage, now is the time for individuals, military organizations, and genealogical groups to stand together and write their congresspeople about the injustice of the rate increase. Keep in mind, we are asking for access to our own families. Please post names and addresses of governmental officials to contact, to all. Many thanks, Barbara > Subj:[NYWESTCH] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records > Date:3/2/2007 10:27:41 AM Eastern Standard Time > From:maritag@earthlink.net > I received this on another list. > > 1. NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records.. > > > [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as > well > as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for > Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. > - David Samuelsen] > > *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal > Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions > of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is > for a 338% increase! > > Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to > cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim > final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records > of > other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. > > The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" > language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all > fees. No surprise there, right? > > Here is the list: > > Type of record > Order form > Proposed Fee > > Passenger arrival lists > NATF Form 81 > $25.00 > > Federal Census requests > NATF Form 82 > $25.00 > > Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims > NATF Form 83 > $25.00 > > Land entry records > NATF Form 84 > $40.00 > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). > NATF Form 85 > $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) > NATF Form 85 > $60.00 > > Pension documents packet (selected records). > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Bounty land warrant application files > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Military service files more than 75 years old > NATF Form 86 > $25.00 > > Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's > much more information available in the Federal Register. > > The link to the proposed rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ > edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > 007/E7-3160.htm > > > <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ > edocket.access.gpo.gov/ > 2007/E7-3160.htm > > The link to the interim final rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ > edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > 007/E7-3162.htm > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... (G Frazier) > > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:56:23 -0500 > From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net > Subject: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... > To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6.0.0.14.1.20070301124614.026d0478@pop.earthlink.net > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as > well > as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for > Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. > - David Samuelsen] > > *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal > Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions > of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is > for a 338% increase! > > Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to > cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim > final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records > of > other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. > > The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" > language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all > fees. No surprise there, right? > > Here is the list: > > Type of record > Order form > Proposed Fee > > Passenger arrival lists > NATF Form 81 > $25.00 > > Federal Census requests > NATF Form 82 > $25.00 > > Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims > NATF Form 83 > $25.00 > > Land entry records > NATF Form 84 > $40.00 > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). > NATF Form 85 > $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) > > Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) > NATF Form 85 > $60.00 > > Pension documents packet (selected records). > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Bounty land warrant application files > NATF Form 85 > $25.00 > > Military service files more than 75 years old > NATF Form 86 > $25.00 > > Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's > much more information available in the Federal Register. > > The link to the proposed rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ > edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > 007/E7-3160.htm > > > <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ > edocket.access.gpo.gov/ > 2007/E7-3160.htm > > The link to the interim final rule is: > http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ > edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 > 007/E7-3162.htm > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I have a question, if I go to the nearest NARA depository (Ft.Worth)(or does the packet come from Washington) can I get the information in my GreatGrand father's CW pension records, if I can I guess I'd better get there before April. Judy -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marita Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:34 AM To: NYDELAWA-D-request@rootsweb.com; Westchester NY; ALBANY NY; HODGES-D-request@rootsweb.com; IL-COOK-CHICAGO-L@rootsweb.com; FURMAN-L@rootsweb.com; ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com; JEFFERSON-L@rootsweb.com; STRONG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYWESTCH] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records I received this on another list. 1. NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records.. [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. - David Samuelsen] *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is for a 338% increase! Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records of other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all fees. No surprise there, right? Here is the list: Type of record Order form Proposed Fee Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $25.00 Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $25.00 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $25.00 Land entry records NATF Form 84 $40.00 Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). NATF Form 85 $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) NATF Form 85 $60.00 Pension documents packet (selected records). NATF Form 85 $25.00 Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $25.00 Military service files more than 75 years old NATF Form 86 $25.00 Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's much more information available in the Federal Register. The link to the proposed rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3160.htm <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/ 2007/E7-3160.htm The link to the interim final rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3162.htm Today's Topics: 1. NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... (G Frazier) Message: 1 Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:56:23 -0500 From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net Subject: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6.0.0.14.1.20070301124614.026d0478@pop.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. - David Samuelsen] *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is for a 338% increase! Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records of other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all fees. No surprise there, right? Here is the list: Type of record Order form Proposed Fee Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $25.00 Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $25.00 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $25.00 Land entry records NATF Form 84 $40.00 Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). NATF Form 85 $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) NATF Form 85 $60.00 Pension documents packet (selected records). NATF Form 85 $25.00 Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $25.00 Military service files more than 75 years old NATF Form 86 $25.00 Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's much more information available in the Federal Register. The link to the proposed rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3160.htm <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/ 2007/E7-3160.htm The link to the interim final rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3162.htm *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I received this on another list. 1. NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records.. [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. - David Samuelsen] *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is for a 338% increase! Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records of other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all fees. No surprise there, right? Here is the list: Type of record Order form Proposed Fee Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $25.00 Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $25.00 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $25.00 Land entry records NATF Form 84 $40.00 Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). NATF Form 85 $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) NATF Form 85 $60.00 Pension documents packet (selected records). NATF Form 85 $25.00 Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $25.00 Military service files more than 75 years old NATF Form 86 $25.00 Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's much more information available in the Federal Register. The link to the proposed rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3160.htm <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/ 2007/E7-3160.htm The link to the interim final rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3162.htm Today's Topics: 1. NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... (G Frazier) Message: 1 Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:56:23 -0500 From: G Frazier <macoupincounty@earthlink.net Subject: [ILMACOUP] NARA hiking rates 338% on CW Pension Records... To: ILMACOUP-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6.0.0.14.1.20070301124614.026d0478@pop.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed [please circulate intact, please note that the Civil War pension as well as other military pension/bounty records are not microfilmed except for Revolutionary War, only the indexes were. - David Samuelsen] *Warning to all U.S. genealogists! *Two rules published in the Federal Register on Monday, February 26, 2007, relate to fees for reproductions of records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). In the case of Civil War pension applications, the proposal is for a 338% increase! Page 8327 contains a proposed rule revising fees for reproductions to cover NARA's costs for providing copies. On page 8279 is an interim final rule removing fee schedule fees for the reproduction of records of other Federal agencies stored in NARA records centers. The proposals are written in the finest governmental "legalese" language. However, it is obvious that the proposal is to *INCREASE* all fees. No surprise there, right? Here is the list: Type of record Order form Proposed Fee Passenger arrival lists NATF Form 81 $25.00 Federal Census requests NATF Form 82 $25.00 Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims NATF Form 83 $25.00 Land entry records NATF Form 84 $40.00 Full pension file more than 75 years old (Civil War period). NATF Form 85 $125.00 (a 338% increase from the present fee of $37.00!) Full pension file more than 75 years old (non-Civil War) NATF Form 85 $60.00 Pension documents packet (selected records). NATF Form 85 $25.00 Bounty land warrant application files NATF Form 85 $25.00 Military service files more than 75 years old NATF Form 86 $25.00 Both rules are open for public comment until April 27, 2007. There's much more information available in the Federal Register. The link to the proposed rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3160.htm <http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/ 2007/E7-3160.htm The link to the interim final rule is: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/ edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-3162.htm

Great Idea! It is hard trying to narrow down a message when you have to search for the latest reply. Don

I would like you to look in your info for Davenport's of Westchester Co., NY if possible. Anything you can give me may fill in some blanks. I am particularly interested in family and desc of Samuel and Eles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Vail" <rvail1@cfl.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] (some) Westchester (and all other locationsalso)booksavailable free! >I can cut and paste what you need if you like. > > Robert S. Vail > Titusville, FL > >

I have been sent a section of this newspaper by Bruce Sherwood who wanted it shared with this list, I will type up each articule as time permits and sent it to this list. Here is the first one: The Scarsdale Inquirer - 1 Friday, October 11, 1946 Trainman Saves Dog on Tracks Another recent case of the New York Central Railroad versus the canine population of Scarsdale came to light last week with all credit for the successful outcome of the engagement going to the railroad motorman. As described by a Scarsdale resident who was on the station platform for the 7:10 train to New York, “a small black dog resembling a cocker spaniel started to cross from the east platform to the west” just as the train arrived at the station. :Frantic gesticulations and yelling on the part of passengers on the platform failed to deter the animal, and he wiggled under the third rail at a point just north of the Popham Rd. bridge across the tracks.” The motorman “with a smoothness that was impressive,” says Robert S. HACKETT of 13 Fox Meadow Rd., “decelerated his train skillfully so it reached a stop six or eight feet before reaching the dog. The train was a full car-length north of its usual stopping place. “Apparently sensing the terror and confusion in the dog’s mind, the motorman alighted from his booth while the passengers were embarking, fetched the dog carefully from his cowering position in the vicinity of the third rail and set him down on the west side of the hedge along the platform.” In his letter to the superintendent of the Harlem Division, of which parts are quoted above, MR. HACKETT, expressed congratulations to the New York Central “for its possession of such a caliber of personnel.” Thanks, Carol L. Heap "You live as long as you are remembered"

Thanks Elizabeth. I agree. It would be so very helpful. Some of the responses are followed by MILES of copy!!! > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:57:10 -0500 > From: "Elizabeth Knowlton" <knowltonew@earthlink.net> > Subject: [NYWESTCH] plea for better subject lines and not repeating > all of former messages > > ... How about putting surnames in > the Subject line and deleting all the previous messages below yours > that do not pertain to your query... > > Thanks, > Elizabeth

Yes, you have a point, Maureen! There are times when I yearn for a breath of fresh, cool air and long to once again walk in the woods in autumn when the leaves are in their glory. I do miss the pussy-willows and lilacs in the spring -- the rolling hills and woods; but when the snow is flying, I remember the shoveling, the jumper cables and the inch of ice on my windshield. It's then I'm glad I'm here! I'm sure it's all due to my old age! Jean <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Such interesting queries about specific people when I bother reading messages titled (some) Westchester (and all other locations also) books. None of them were about books. How about putting surnames in the Subject line and deleting all the previous messages below yours that do not pertain to your query. Really hard on digest readers. Thanks, Elizabet

Elizabeth I quite agree with you and thank you for making this request--again. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Knowlton" <knowltonew@earthlink.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] plea for better subject lines and not repeating all offormer messages > Such interesting queries about specific people when I bother reading > messages titled (some) Westchester (and all other locations also) books. > None of them were about books. How about putting surnames in > the Subject line and deleting all the previous messages below yours > that do not pertain to your query. Really hard on digest readers. > > Thanks, > Elizabet > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marianne- This is a challenging Bouton discussion because my Mercy Bouton was prob born in New Cannan before her parents moved to Blue Point. Long Island about 1759 where she married (1)Allaben and then after some children and he died, she married my (2) Joel Carley of Hillsdale. However, they seem,along with other Boutons of this Samuel line of John, to have gone to Roxbury/Delhi area and were not after all in Westchester. John Bouton's family married into many,many,almost every family of early Norwalk. Most of these families(several of mine) also migrated into Westchester--Salem, Bedford,and all areas. Bob Lefler(Rockwell/Keeler/Whitney/Hoyt/Ferris,Knapp,etc) John Bouton b 1684 came to New Cannan but you have to remember that he first was in Norwalk itself and that New Cannan came along later when it was only a church district as were Wilton and Ridgefield. They were all just parts of the Norwalk Proprietary Colony settled from Fairfield(There was no Westport even thought of). Stamford was separate as a colony of the New Haven CO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Dunell" <mariannefromny@webtv.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:31 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Boutons > My John Bouton was born 1615 and married in Boston 1636 in Boston, Mass. > to Alice KELLOGG or PRATT. I am pretty sure it was Kellogg and havethe > Kellogg geneology which kind of backs itup. Anybody out have verification > of that? > Johns father was Richard Boughton, baptised March 1572 Ipswich, England. > My Bouton line goes down to Mercy who married Eliphalet Slawson November > 2, 1724. > Mercy's parents were: John Bouton B.1684 and died in New Cannan, CT, and > MercyHickock ( Hickox ), B. 1688. She died in Stamford, CT. 1728. > I also have Betsy Bouton born in Pound Ridge, NY in 1785 who married > Richard Miller Jr. Betsy's parentswere Jesse Bouton born 1741 i (I have > Cannan CT. but I'm pretty sure it as New Cannan ). and Rachel Ferris. > ! > My Westchester and nearby > CT. famlies in my geneology are: Bouton, Miller Marvin, Miller, Reynolds, > Seely, Pennoyer, Kellogg, Ambler Belding, Slawson, Bates, Hickc/Hickox, > Upson, Clawson/Clason, Holmes, Robertson, ect., ect,.. > Marianne in Wingdale, N.Y. > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marianne- I have a close family member of my Carley line, prob. Joel Carley bap 1748 in Westport,CT, who married Mercy Bouton b. 19 Nov 1758 in Stamford,CT(or New Cannan-townline not clear then). Joel was her second husband. They had Brookens and Electra Carley. She was the daughter of a Minister who traveled from Danbury to Ridgefield to Stamford. I have the name somewhere. Interestingly, several lines of this general Carley family lived in Wilton, New Fairfield and Sharon areas and up in Hillsdale, but they were all in Dutchess Co around the time of the Rev.)-near Wingdale- I am sending a copy of this to my Carley research friend to further define it all. I still think some of those from Stamford went over to Westchester, maybe Salem and certainly as someone mentioned to Lewisboro(Where is that?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Boutons > Marianne, > > Which Millers?? I have Westchester Millers in my direct line. > > Also too, I see you live in Wingdale. Are you related to Pat Boughton, > married Walter Frazier?? Both are graduates of Arlington High. He was > Class > of 1952 and she was 1954 . > > Maureen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marianne Dunell" <mariannefromny@webtv.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:31 AM > Subject: [NYWESTCH] Boutons > > >> My John Bouton was born 1615 and married in Boston 1636 in Boston, Mass. >> to Alice KELLOGG or PRATT. I am pretty sure it was Kellogg and havethe >> Kellogg geneology which kind of backs itup. Anybody out have verification >> of that? >> Johns father was Richard Boughton, baptised March 1572 Ipswich, England. >> My Bouton line goes down to Mercy who married Eliphalet Slawson November >> 2, 1724. >> Mercy's parents were: John Bouton B.1684 and died in New Cannan, CT, and >> MercyHickock ( Hickox ), B. 1688. She died in Stamford, CT. 1728. >> I also have Betsy Bouton born in Pound Ridge, NY in 1785 who married >> Richard Miller Jr. Betsy's parentswere Jesse Bouton born 1741 i (I have >> Cannan CT. but I'm pretty sure it as New Cannan ). and Rachel Ferris. >> ! >> My Westchester and nearby >> CT. famlies in my geneology are: Bouton, Miller Marvin, Miller, Reynolds, >> Seely, Pennoyer, Kellogg, Ambler Belding, Slawson, Bates, Hickc/Hickox, >> Upson, Clawson/Clason, Holmes, Robertson, ect., ect,.. >> Marianne in Wingdale, N.Y. >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My John Bouton was born 1615 and married in Boston 1636 in Boston, Mass. to Alice KELLOGG or PRATT. I am pretty sure it was Kellogg and havethe Kellogg geneology which kind of backs itup. Anybody out have verification of that? Johns father was Richard Boughton, baptised March 1572 Ipswich, England. My Bouton line goes down to Mercy who married Eliphalet Slawson November 2, 1724. Mercy's parents were: John Bouton B.1684 and died in New Cannan, CT, and MercyHickock ( Hickox ), B. 1688. She died in Stamford, CT. 1728. I also have Betsy Bouton born in Pound Ridge, NY in 1785 who married Richard Miller Jr. Betsy's parentswere Jesse Bouton born 1741 i (I have Cannan CT. but I'm pretty sure it as New Cannan ). and Rachel Ferris. My Westchester and nearby CT. famlies in my geneology are: Bouton, Miller Marvin, Miller, Reynolds, Seely, Pennoyer, Kellogg, Ambler Belding, Slawson, Bates, Hickc/Hickox, Upson, Clawson/Clason, Holmes, Robertson, ect., ect,.. Marianne in Wingdale, N.Y.

I have only spent a couple half-hours on the books.google site, and have found some wonderful things, The history of Long Island by Ross, and a few copies of the Collections of the NY Historical Society from the 1890's, Pelletreau's Abstracts of NY Wills, as well as several that Dick mentioned. Thank you very much for the recommendation, Dick! Holly East Bangor, PA >-----Original Message----- >From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:10 AM >To: NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYWESTCH] (some) Westchester (and all other locations also) >booksavailable free! > >I just published a Blog about a place to get "some" of the Westchester >county books absolutely free! > >Certainly not all are available (yet) but give them time, I think they >might >be eventually. > >Check it out. http://ny-genes.blogspot.com. > >-- >Dick Hillenbrand >Upstate New York Genealogy >website: http://www.unyg.com >blog: http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ >member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)