Well from the stories I have been told Adolph Balzer was only nice to his garden plants, not people. Thanks, Carol L. Heap "You live as long as you are remembered"

My G-grandmother buried my G-grandfather in a different cemetery than she planned to use because she swore that he would hold her down on Resurrection Day. Must have been a great marriage! Thanks, Carol L. Heap "You live as long as you are remembered"

Carol. Can't keep from committing on this family insight. She had the last word, anyhow. Cha d'dhuin doras nach dfhosgail doras When one door closes another door opens Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <cheap@simon.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] gravesites > My G-grandmother buried my G-grandfather in a different cemetery than she > planned to use because she swore that he would hold her down on > Resurrection Day. Must have been a great marriage! > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap > > "You live as long as you are remembered" > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 773 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

That s hilarious, Carol.....but sad too. Years ago so many couples stayed together "til death did they part" because society condemned divorce. Also too decent paying jobs for women with children were practically non-existent. When we look at women's lives back then, I for one am glad it wasn't me!! Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <cheap@simon.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] gravesites > My G-grandmother buried my G-grandfather in a different cemetery than she > planned to use because she swore that he would hold her down on > Resurrection Day. Must have been a great marriage! > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap > > "You live as long as you are remembered" > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Other important, but often overlooked reasons, for the lower divorce rate of centuries past: Divorce was difficult to obtain, so frequently dispensed with. With poor communitcations, bigamy was easier than divorce. 2 of my 3G greatgrandfathers just left their first families and started a second. One didn't marry the second woman until his ifrst wife died. In the interim he had 3 children with the 2d--after 10 with the first! The other just went the bigamy route. When wife no 1 found out, she divorced him. Incidentally, one set of my 2G grandparents were children of these men by thier first relationships. The bigamous one even had the audicity to marry in a church--over the county line wheree no one knew him or the "bride." He was married the first time by a justice of the peace. The divorce records contain certifications of both marriages. People didn't live so long so virtually no marriages lasted for 20 years. The longer-lived people generally had 2 or 3 spouses in their lifetimes as they were widows or widowers. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:27:12 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] gravesites That s hilarious, Carol.....but sad too. Years ago so many couples stayed together "til death did they part" because society condemned divorce. Also too decent paying jobs for women with children were practically non-existent. When we look at women's lives back then, I for one am glad it wasn't me!! Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <cheap@simon.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] gravesites > My G-grandmother buried my G-grandfather in a different cemetery than she > planned to use because she swore that he would hold her down on > Resurrection Day. Must have been a great marriage! > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap > > "You live as long as you are remembered" > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the smile, Carol. This is one that I shared with several people via e-mail. :) barb andrews On Mar 16, 2007, at 10:10 AM, cheap@simon.com wrote: > My G-grandmother buried my G-grandfather in a different cemetery > than she > planned to use because she swore that he would hold her down on > Resurrection Day. Must have been a great marriage! > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap > > "You live as long as you are remembered"

My grandfather is not buried with my grandmother. She is buried with her sister and parents in Cortland, NY. My grandfather was cremated. My great-aunt's husband was buried in Canada. When I found my husband's gr-gr-grandparents one was buried in one cemetary, the other in a totally different town in the same county of PA. Too far to travel back then? Valerie ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Would some informed soul tell the exact location of Assumption [church is Peekskill proper] Cemetery, more than the "Oregon Road" address that appears online? ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Carol, Hunt was one of the earliest settlers in Westchester. Paulding and Williams were civilian heroes in the Rev War.....I don't know for sure if the ones I've run across are part of your lines but it seems worth checking. Have you looked to see if MacKenzie has anything on Hunt. If memory serves me correctly I think he does. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Hustus" <maranath@earthlink.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] FW: Roll call: Hunt, Williams, Paulding, Hart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Hustus [mailto:maranath@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:58 PM > To: 'nywestch@rootsweb.com' > Subject: Roll call: Hunt, Williams, Paulding, Hart > > Hello folks, > Here's some of my info: > > Ida Jane Hunt, b. 1869/1870, married 1891, dod unknown, d/o Richard > Bernard > Hunt and Sophia M. Unknown but probably Hart. > Her father, Richard B. Hunt b. 1831/1832, s/o Reuben Hunt b. 1790 and > Dorothy Unknown b. 1795. > Ida Jane Hunt married Duncombe Drage Williams. My line comes through their > son Richard Reuben Taylor Williams b. 1896. Ida Jane's daughter married a > Paulding. > > I think extensive Hunt genealogy has been done and would like to know if > "my" Hunts are already researched and listed. > Would appreciate corrections, suggestions and any input. Thanks. > > Carol > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: Carol Hustus [mailto:maranath@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:58 PM To: 'nywestch@rootsweb.com' Subject: Roll call: Hunt, Williams, Paulding, Hart Hello folks, Here's some of my info: Ida Jane Hunt, b. 1869/1870, married 1891, dod unknown, d/o Richard Bernard Hunt and Sophia M. Unknown but probably Hart. Her father, Richard B. Hunt b. 1831/1832, s/o Reuben Hunt b. 1790 and Dorothy Unknown b. 1795. Ida Jane Hunt married Duncombe Drage Williams. My line comes through their son Richard Reuben Taylor Williams b. 1896. Ida Jane's daughter married a Paulding. I think extensive Hunt genealogy has been done and would like to know if "my" Hunts are already researched and listed. Would appreciate corrections, suggestions and any input. Thanks. Carol

I think the street name was Nepperhan Ave. Not sure about the carpet factory but there was a large one in Yonkers at that time, Alexander Smith Carpet works, etc. , and the address of record on the 1910 census was 433 Nepperhan Avenue. Across the street from a carpet company I think. If you have access to Anc.com I believe you can locate them. Joy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:11:04 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Sabol <pgsabol@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Searching for Sabol To: NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Sabol <pgsabol@yahoo.com> wrote: Does anyone have any info on the Sabol family of Yonkers? Best I can tell Andrew (maybe Andras/Andros/Andraj) immigrated in the mid-late 1880's or early 1900's based on census records. But derivations of spelling on the first and last name are making it difficult. Where could I search for ports of arrival before Ellis Island opened? He married Mary Sabolick (again, derivations of spelling) after he was in NY, but I believe she too immigrated. They had sons George, Michael (aka Mihaly), Nicholas (died young I think), Andrew, Anna, and Helen. Here is the 1910 census info including their year of immigration. Highlighted are my direct ancestors. Sabol, Andrew Head M W 46 1886 --------, Mary Wife F W 42 1886 --------, Michael Son M W 16 1902 --------, George Son M W 14 1902 --------, Nicholas Son M W 8 1902 --------, Andrew Son M W 5 --------, Anna Daughter F W 3 --------, Helen Daughter F W 3/12 Joy Bold

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Thank you for the information, Alice. Do you have the address or phone # for the Verplancks museum? Barbara <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

You can try CastleGarden.org and just put in the surname Sabol and the list of passengers will come up. Linda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Oh, and the address of record on the 1910 census was 433 Nemerhan Avenue. Across the street from a carpet company I think. Paul Sabol <pgsabol@yahoo.com> wrote: Does anyone have any info on the Sabol family of Yonkers? Best I can tell Andrew (maybe Andras/Andros/Andraj) immigrated in the mid-late 1880's or early 1900's based on census records. But derivations of spelling on the first and last name are making it difficult. Where could I search for ports of arrival before Ellis Island opened? He married Mary Sabolick (again, derivations of spelling) after he was in NY, but I believe she too immigrated. They had sons George, Michael (aka Mihaly), Nicholas (died young I think), Andrew, Anna, and Helen. Here is the 1910 census info including their year of immigration. Highlighted are my direct ancestors. Sabol, Andrew Head M W 46 1886 --------, Mary Wife F W 42 1886 --------, Michael Son M W 16 1902 --------, George Son M W 14 1902 --------, Nicholas Son M W 8 1902 --------, Andrew Son M W 5 --------, Anna Daughter F W 3 --------, Helen Daughter F W 3/12 --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Barbara; The Town Cortlandt now has a museum in Verplancks Point & the Bleakleys along with others from the area are in their. Alice >From Verplanck, NY to Brooksville, FL <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Shannon, I have a few of questions. Do you have death certs for these two women? Do these certs state where they were buried? How about obits? When did Edward die? Do you have his death cert? obit? burial info? Have you checked with the cemetery to see who is in that plot? My grandfather died in the 1930's. Money was tight. My grandmother had a household with 6 offspring. No 'survivor benefits'. His family had a BIG plot (approx 20) so, my grandmother accepted offer to have him buried there. She died in the 1980's, lived to age 95. She is buried in another cemetery, in a different town/city, with members of her family. In another case, a married couple with no children. The wife died in the mid-`1990's. Her husband took care of getting a stone, with her info on it. Blank space left for him. He later died a couple of years ago. He IS buried there. His info has not been added to the stone. His one sister, the only 'next of kin' left, hasn't bothered to add info. She is a bit weird and doesn't believe in such things. (?). They are no relation. His oldest sister (not the weirdo) married my mother's brother. (got that?) The grave is near my parents', so I check it out whenever I go.. Bottom line .... you can't depend on just a stone to give you info. More research is needed. Maureen another one, in NJ On 3/8/07, Foon123@aol.com <Foon123@aol.com> wrote: > I had a question regarding a tombstone inscription for some of my ancestors. > > The inscription reads: In Memory of > Margaret Lowe > Wife of Edward Blake > Died Mar 13, 1907 > > Requiescot in Pace > Madeleine Blake > Died August 7, 1950 > > Is this simply a memorial stone or is it the final resting spot for both > Margaret Lowe Blake and her daughter, Madeleine? If this is actually on a grave > site, it seems strange to me that Edward Blake would not be buried there as > well. I have no information that he ever remarried, but what other reason > would there be for him not being there? > > Thanks! > Shannon

My grandfather Smith was not buried with his wife because he lieved to be 102 and she lived only to age 68. She is buried in Dale Cemetery in a family plot with her in-laws and several other family members. He is buried in Belfast ME where he died while living with his grandson who had relocated to ME and took Grandpa with him. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Foon123@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Tombstone Question >I had a question regarding a tombstone inscription for some of my >ancestors. > > The inscription reads: In Memory of > Margaret Lowe > Wife of Edward Blake > Died Mar 13, 1907 > > Requiescot in Pace > Madeleine Blake > Died August 7, 1950 > > Is this simply a memorial stone or is it the final resting spot for both > Margaret Lowe Blake and her daughter, Madeleine? If this is actually on a > grave > site, it seems strange to me that Edward Blake would not be buried there > as > well. I have no information that he ever remarried, but what other > reason > would there be for him not being there? > > Thanks! > Shannon > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shannon, They would have had to get a marriage license before they could be married even with a church wedding . Have you checked the civil records?? My grandfather and grandmother Smith were married in Ossining in 1888 and I sent for a copy of their marrige certificate. ....10 days turnaround time and $10.....and a very pleasant and knowledgeable Town Clerk. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Foon123@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Irvington Marriage Record >I was wondering if someone on this list would be kind enough to check for a > marriage record in Irvington for me. My great-grandparents, Thomas BLAKE > and > Mary MCDONNELL/MCDONALD, were married between 1881 and 1885 (their first > child was born on September 1, 1885). All four of their children were > baptized > in Immaculate Conception Church in Irvington. However, according to the > church, its marriage records do not go back as far as the records on > baptisms. > > I would appreciate any help in locating this record. Thank you very > much! > Shannon Yowell > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Shannon, Perhaps his occupation would provide some clues. If he was a sailor, he may died at sea. Or, maybe he died in a place or circumstance where his remains were never recovered, e.g. drowned, kidnapped, etc. Or, perhaps his family either could not afford to have the stone revised, or they didn't want to, or there was no family left to order the revision. The best thing to do is contact the cemetery for a list of interments and go from there. Dan Murphy in Pennsylvania (Formerly of Mount Vernon, Pelham Manor, Mount Kisco) ----------------- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ------------------------ If this is actually on a grave site, it seems strange to me that Edward Blake would not be buried there as well. I have no information that he ever remarried, but what other reason would there be for him not being there? Thanks! Shannon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.