In a message dated 7/6/2007 7:21:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mklaffky@columbus.rr.com writes: the tunnels were apparently originally built as an escape route for G Washington and troops, who had an encampment near by As a young girl traveling by car between Dutchess County and New York City to visit family, my mother would tell us stories to keep us busy. One of the stories was about a chain being placed across the Hudson to stop British ships that might come up the Hudson. Wasn't that chain at Ossning? Could that have anything to do with the tunnels, etc.? Joan R. Plantinga San Jose, CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi list: I found the following record on the Civil War. I can't identify who this W. K. FOSHAY is. I know the FOSHAY's lived in Westchester Co. NY. I thought I would give the list a try to help me on this. Any help with this is appreciated. Civil War Prisoner of War Records, 1861-1865 about W K Foshay Name: W K Foshay Side: Union Roll: M1303_2 Selected Records of the War Department Commissary General of Prisoners Relating to Federal Prisoners of War Confined at Andersonville, GA, 1864-65 Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

VERY interesting, Madelyn!! I hope someone steps in......like the historical societies eg.... to save this piece of history. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Madelyn Klaffky" <mklaffky@columbus.rr.com> To: "NYWestch" <NYWestch-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Ossining >I sent this info to my niece who lives in Washington. Her reply is > interesting. Do check out her pictures on the link at the bottom. they > are > more extensive. I also googled St. Augustine Church in Ossining, had to > scroll all the way down and went to History of the church. The on to the > 4th page to see the info about Washington. > > _____ > > Her reply: > > Hi, I can't believe you got that!!! The link below are photos that were > taken right after it was found, the photo on the first page, bottom row, > laft you will see me arguing with the NYS historians, lol. They are > beautiful!!! And, (gotta love the local papers) according to local > history > (St Augustine's Church, which is very close to the area, go to their site > and click on "history") the tunnels were apparently originally built as an > escape route for G Washington and troops, who had an encampment near by. > The bricks that the historian took to "examine" were found on the floor of > the main tunnel, and were NOT the same bricks in the structures. (Also > found on the floor, snapple bottles, a folding chair, etc.) The bricks > that > make this thing up appear to be "homemade" they are irregular, and if you > break any of them in half, they are black on the inside, (overcooked, > lol), > and have no markings on them. Lol, don't get me started, the property is > owned by Mystic Pointe (condo complex) and they are thinking of filling > the > tunnels and chambers, and covering them up, they claim they can't afford > to > do anything else. What a shame. > > > Bet you didn't think you'd get all that, huh? > > Anyway, the photos are of the "airholes" some of the tunnel and some of > the > chambers. If you look at the floor in the photos, you'll see how many you > are looking at, some are doubles. The tunnel part starts at Route 9 (I > couldn't get close enough to see if the bricks that seal that part are the > same bricks as the rest, may have been sealed when they moved Rte 9, as it > appears to go under), I have found parts of this thing all the way down > towards the river. (The "entrance" on the nature trail in Mystic has an > Indian Midden on top of it, historian said it was at least 400 to 600 > years > old). > > Check it out, let me know what you think!! > > > > Mystic Pointe <http://www.robdublin.com/Albums/Mystic/> tunnels > > > ************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=59554&pa > rtner=hbtools> Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In my last message telling about my nieces' response I said she lives in Washington--when I meant Ossining. <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=55360&pa rtner=hbtools> Upgrade Your Email - Click here!

I sent this info to my niece who lives in Washington. Her reply is interesting. Do check out her pictures on the link at the bottom. they are more extensive. I also googled St. Augustine Church in Ossining, had to scroll all the way down and went to History of the church. The on to the 4th page to see the info about Washington. _____ Her reply: Hi, I can't believe you got that!!! The link below are photos that were taken right after it was found, the photo on the first page, bottom row, laft you will see me arguing with the NYS historians, lol. They are beautiful!!! And, (gotta love the local papers) according to local history (St Augustine's Church, which is very close to the area, go to their site and click on "history") the tunnels were apparently originally built as an escape route for G Washington and troops, who had an encampment near by. The bricks that the historian took to "examine" were found on the floor of the main tunnel, and were NOT the same bricks in the structures. (Also found on the floor, snapple bottles, a folding chair, etc.) The bricks that make this thing up appear to be "homemade" they are irregular, and if you break any of them in half, they are black on the inside, (overcooked, lol), and have no markings on them. Lol, don't get me started, the property is owned by Mystic Pointe (condo complex) and they are thinking of filling the tunnels and chambers, and covering them up, they claim they can't afford to do anything else. What a shame. Bet you didn't think you'd get all that, huh? Anyway, the photos are of the "airholes" some of the tunnel and some of the chambers. If you look at the floor in the photos, you'll see how many you are looking at, some are doubles. The tunnel part starts at Route 9 (I couldn't get close enough to see if the bricks that seal that part are the same bricks as the rest, may have been sealed when they moved Rte 9, as it appears to go under), I have found parts of this thing all the way down towards the river. (The "entrance" on the nature trail in Mystic has an Indian Midden on top of it, historian said it was at least 400 to 600 years old). Check it out, let me know what you think!! Mystic Pointe <http://www.robdublin.com/Albums/Mystic/> tunnels ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=59554&pa rtner=hbtools> Upgrade Your Email - Click here!

Judy, thanks for bringing this to our attention. This is exciting!! This should not be destroyed -- The condominium should put in a new road. Has anyone checked to see who the property belonged to in the mid-1800s? Maybe a member of that family has an idea what they were doing. How much money would it have cost to buy bricks or pay people to make the bricks, excavate the land and do the masonry work? Who would have had that kind of money in those days? Keep us former New Yorkers updated on happenings! Joan R. Plantinga San Jose, CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Great find! Is it part of civil defense built during the Civil War? Newport RI has a great system of connecting tunnels between buildings at Fort Adams ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I thought this was going to Bill privately but I guess there's no harm done except that it's kind of "chatty".LOL Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > Hi Bill, > > He sure did have a wife and children.....he married Sarah Drake d o Samuel > Drake and Mary Fowler. Job and Sarah are my 5th g-grandparents same as > Solomon and Elizabeth. When Carol sends the Fowler pp from MacKenzie > you'll > see Mary and Sam on there. They are my 6th g-grandparents. Job had several > children one of which was Ann Sherwood my 4th g-grandmother. She married > Moses Ward. > > I would have to look up the dates and also look up Moses Sherwood. I don't > know as much about him off the top of my head. I'll try to get the > Sherwood > pp copied when I go out tomorrow. As I had mentioned, my scanner and > copier > don't work. Carol told me about one she bought that works great with a > laptop like I have now. I'm going to look into it. > > Maureen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > >> Maureen: >> >> What can you tell me about Job? All I have is his name with his >> brother Solomon and his father Moses. Did he have a wife and children? >> Also who was Moses wife and any dates you may have? >> >> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >> >> quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: Thanks for looking , Barbara. >> >> I also have Job Sherwood, another 5th great grandfather who is Solomon's >> brother. Their father is Moses Sherwood, my double 6th g-grandfather. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara de Mare" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >> >> >>> Bill, I didn't get your attachment. Maureen, I do n't see a Solomon so >>> far, but as I keep saying my Sherwoods are a mess. >>> >>> Barbara >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: quillpen1 >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:10:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >>> >>> Barbara, >>> >>> If you are related to Solomon Sherwood then you are related to me. >>> Please >>> let me know. He is my 5th grear grandfather, married Elizabeth Foseur >>> (Forshay). >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bill Forshay" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >>> >>> >>>> Barbara: >>>> >>>> I will attach a family group sheet on Solomon SHERWOOD and his >>>> family. Let me know if this is a help or make any corrections that you >>>> may >>>> have. >>>> >>>> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Barbara de Mare wrote: Bill, >>>> >>>> My Sherwoods are from your era or earlier, and from the >>>> Connecticut--New >>>> York area around Greenwich. There is just no certainty as to the >>>> information I haver on any of them. Some of it makes no sense to me >>>> from >>>> a time-line point of view. 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Wow that is spooky. It sure isn't any root cellar or wine cellar either by the looks of it. It looks very innocuous on the outside (last photo in slide show) but inside it looks like it was built to be some sort of torture chamber or underground holding place for prisoners who no matter how much they screamed would never be heard. I think it should be preserved at least until they find out what it was. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> To: <NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining > > The following article was just in the Poughkeepsie Journal today. Sounds > like an interesting mystery. Any guesses, my first thought was > underground > railroad, but would they bother with vaulted ceilings and arched > doorways, > probably not. > > Judy Wolf > > > Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining > > > By SEAN GORMAN > THE JOURNAL NEWS > > > (Original publication: July 5, 2007) > > OSSINING - Workers who were fixing a sinking road at the Mystic Pointe > condominium complex recently unearthed an underground series of rooms that > may > date to the mid-19th century. > The structure, found around early May, includes arched doorways and > 15-foot-high vaulted ceilings. It rests next to the exit road leading out > of the > condo community off Route 9. > "It's like a huge underground structure of rooms, all made out of brick > masonry, concrete ceilings," Art Haviland, Mystic Pointe's property > manager, said > last week. > Several archeologists and historians have visited the site, but no one can > say with certainty what the building was for, Haviland said. > Some experts think it may have been a root cellar, and they've suggested > it > may date to the mid-1800s, Haviland said. > The structure's exact size is also a mystery, because workers didn't > uncover > all of it. In their excavation they found "approximately eight" rooms, > Haviland said. > Ossining village Mayor William Hanauer, who got to go into the underground > chambers about a month ago, said other possibilities raised about its > purpose > are that it was a wine storage room or a barn for cattle, or part of a > tunnel > network used to transport things from boats on the Hudson River. > "It's like a long hall off of which are other hallways," Hanauer said. > "The > hallways themselves are sort of divided up into rooms. It was clearly > built to > be underground." > The mayor said one of the bricks unearthed while he was at the site was > thought to date to the 1840s. > Linda Kiederer, former president of the Yorktown Historical Society, > cautioned against jumping to the conclusion that the structure was a stop > on the > Underground Railroad - a pre-Civil War network of hideouts where former > slaves > stayed on their way to freedom. > She said such large structures weren't built for that purpose. But it > seems > too elaborate to have been a root cellar, said Kiederer, who learned about > the > structure's discovery from a reporter. > "I do think it was intended for a foundry of some sort, but perhaps never > used since the walls aren't blackened," she wrote in an e-mail to The > Journal > News after viewing photos of the structure online. > Mystic Pointe resident Gay Marglin took the photos, posting them on > _http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265_ > (http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265) . > "Whoever built it was a real craftsman," Marglin said last week. "The > thing > looks brand new." > Marglin, a member of the condominium's governing board, said the road sank > because dirt underneath it was slipping into the structure's openings, > including air tunnels leading through its roof toward the surface. > The condo complex has been left with a predicament of how to fix the road > and > what to do about the chambers, Marglin said. One option is to break open > the > top of the structure and fill it in with earth. An engineer has provided > a > $50,000 estimate for filling it in, she said. > The other option, estimated to be four times as expensive, is to build a > retaining wall and cover the openings with custom-made concrete fixtures > so the > dirt doesn't keep seeping into the openings. > Given the price constraints, the association is leaning toward the first > -and more destructive -option, Marglin said. > "I was hoping we could do something to preserve it," she said. "That > doesn't > look like it's economically feasible unless somebody steps up to the plate > in > the next month." > Anyone who wants to contact her about the structure can e-mail > _gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com_ (mailto:gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com) . > Elise Godfrey, another Mystic Pointe resident, said the discovery of the > red > brick facility is interesting but the excavation site is a bit of an > eyesore. > Condo residents have dubbed it the "Big Dig." It has orange cones and > fencing around it, and passers-by may not enter. > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill, He sure did have a wife and children.....he married Sarah Drake d o Samuel Drake and Mary Fowler. Job and Sarah are my 5th g-grandparents same as Solomon and Elizabeth. When Carol sends the Fowler pp from MacKenzie you'll see Mary and Sam on there. They are my 6th g-grandparents. Job had several children one of which was Ann Sherwood my 4th g-grandmother. She married Moses Ward. I would have to look up the dates and also look up Moses Sherwood. I don't know as much about him off the top of my head. I'll try to get the Sherwood pp copied when I go out tomorrow. As I had mentioned, my scanner and copier don't work. Carol told me about one she bought that works great with a laptop like I have now. I'm going to look into it. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > Maureen: > > What can you tell me about Job? All I have is his name with his > brother Solomon and his father Moses. Did he have a wife and children? > Also who was Moses wife and any dates you may have? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: Thanks for looking , Barbara. > > I also have Job Sherwood, another 5th great grandfather who is Solomon's > brother. Their father is Moses Sherwood, my double 6th g-grandfather. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > >> Bill, I didn't get your attachment. Maureen, I do n't see a Solomon so >> far, but as I keep saying my Sherwoods are a mess. >> >> Barbara >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: quillpen1 >> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:10:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >> >> Barbara, >> >> If you are related to Solomon Sherwood then you are related to me. Please >> let me know. He is my 5th grear grandfather, married Elizabeth Foseur >> (Forshay). >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Forshay" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >> >> >>> Barbara: >>> >>> I will attach a family group sheet on Solomon SHERWOOD and his >>> family. Let me know if this is a help or make any corrections that you >>> may >>> have. >>> >>> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Barbara de Mare wrote: Bill, >>> >>> My Sherwoods are from your era or earlier, and from the >>> Connecticut--New >>> York area around Greenwich. There is just no certainty as to the >>> information I haver on any of them. Some of it makes no sense to me >>> from >>> a time-line point of view. Perhaps together we can find some useful >>> info >>> >>> Barbara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: >>> mail, >>> news, photos & more. >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. 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I vote for underground armory or munitions depot. Jan jgrellim@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure inOssining > Wow that is spooky. It sure isn't any root cellar or wine cellar either by > the looks of it. > > It looks very innocuous on the outside (last photo in slide show) but > inside > it looks like it was built to be some sort of torture chamber or > underground > holding place for prisoners who no matter how much they screamed would > never > be heard. > > I think it should be preserved at least until they find out what it was. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> > To: <NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:06 PM > Subject: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining > > >> >> The following article was just in the Poughkeepsie Journal today. Sounds >> like an interesting mystery. Any guesses, my first thought was >> underground >> railroad, but would they bother with vaulted ceilings and arched >> doorways, >> probably not. >> >> Judy Wolf >> >> >> Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining >> >> >> By SEAN GORMAN >> THE JOURNAL NEWS >> >> >> (Original publication: July 5, 2007) >> >> OSSINING - Workers who were fixing a sinking road at the Mystic Pointe >> condominium complex recently unearthed an underground series of rooms >> that >> may >> date to the mid-19th century. >> The structure, found around early May, includes arched doorways and >> 15-foot-high vaulted ceilings. It rests next to the exit road leading out >> of the >> condo community off Route 9. >> "It's like a huge underground structure of rooms, all made out of brick >> masonry, concrete ceilings," Art Haviland, Mystic Pointe's property >> manager, said >> last week. >> Several archeologists and historians have visited the site, but no one >> can >> say with certainty what the building was for, Haviland said. >> Some experts think it may have been a root cellar, and they've suggested >> it >> may date to the mid-1800s, Haviland said. >> The structure's exact size is also a mystery, because workers didn't >> uncover >> all of it. In their excavation they found "approximately eight" rooms, >> Haviland said. >> Ossining village Mayor William Hanauer, who got to go into the >> underground >> chambers about a month ago, said other possibilities raised about its >> purpose >> are that it was a wine storage room or a barn for cattle, or part of a >> tunnel >> network used to transport things from boats on the Hudson River. >> "It's like a long hall off of which are other hallways," Hanauer said. >> "The >> hallways themselves are sort of divided up into rooms. It was clearly >> built to >> be underground." >> The mayor said one of the bricks unearthed while he was at the site was >> thought to date to the 1840s. >> Linda Kiederer, former president of the Yorktown Historical Society, >> cautioned against jumping to the conclusion that the structure was a stop >> on the >> Underground Railroad - a pre-Civil War network of hideouts where former >> slaves >> stayed on their way to freedom. >> She said such large structures weren't built for that purpose. But it >> seems >> too elaborate to have been a root cellar, said Kiederer, who learned >> about >> the >> structure's discovery from a reporter. >> "I do think it was intended for a foundry of some sort, but perhaps never >> used since the walls aren't blackened," she wrote in an e-mail to The >> Journal >> News after viewing photos of the structure online. >> Mystic Pointe resident Gay Marglin took the photos, posting them on >> _http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265_ >> (http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265) . >> "Whoever built it was a real craftsman," Marglin said last week. "The >> thing >> looks brand new." >> Marglin, a member of the condominium's governing board, said the road >> sank >> because dirt underneath it was slipping into the structure's openings, >> including air tunnels leading through its roof toward the surface. >> The condo complex has been left with a predicament of how to fix the road >> and >> what to do about the chambers, Marglin said. One option is to break open >> the >> top of the structure and fill it in with earth. An engineer has provided >> a >> $50,000 estimate for filling it in, she said. >> The other option, estimated to be four times as expensive, is to build a >> retaining wall and cover the openings with custom-made concrete fixtures >> so the >> dirt doesn't keep seeping into the openings. >> Given the price constraints, the association is leaning toward the first >> -and more destructive -option, Marglin said. >> "I was hoping we could do something to preserve it," she said. "That >> doesn't >> look like it's economically feasible unless somebody steps up to the >> plate >> in >> the next month." >> Anyone who wants to contact her about the structure can e-mail >> _gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com_ (mailto:gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com) . >> Elise Godfrey, another Mystic Pointe resident, said the discovery of the >> red >> brick facility is interesting but the excavation site is a bit of an >> eyesore. >> Condo residents have dubbed it the "Big Dig." It has orange cones and >> fencing around it, and passers-by may not enter. >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following article was just in the Poughkeepsie Journal today. Sounds like an interesting mystery. Any guesses, my first thought was underground railroad, but would they bother with vaulted ceilings and arched doorways, probably not. Judy Wolf Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining By SEAN GORMAN THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original publication: July 5, 2007) OSSINING - Workers who were fixing a sinking road at the Mystic Pointe condominium complex recently unearthed an underground series of rooms that may date to the mid-19th century. The structure, found around early May, includes arched doorways and 15-foot-high vaulted ceilings. It rests next to the exit road leading out of the condo community off Route 9. "It's like a huge underground structure of rooms, all made out of brick masonry, concrete ceilings," Art Haviland, Mystic Pointe's property manager, said last week. Several archeologists and historians have visited the site, but no one can say with certainty what the building was for, Haviland said. Some experts think it may have been a root cellar, and they've suggested it may date to the mid-1800s, Haviland said. The structure's exact size is also a mystery, because workers didn't uncover all of it. In their excavation they found "approximately eight" rooms, Haviland said. Ossining village Mayor William Hanauer, who got to go into the underground chambers about a month ago, said other possibilities raised about its purpose are that it was a wine storage room or a barn for cattle, or part of a tunnel network used to transport things from boats on the Hudson River. "It's like a long hall off of which are other hallways," Hanauer said. "The hallways themselves are sort of divided up into rooms. It was clearly built to be underground." The mayor said one of the bricks unearthed while he was at the site was thought to date to the 1840s. Linda Kiederer, former president of the Yorktown Historical Society, cautioned against jumping to the conclusion that the structure was a stop on the Underground Railroad - a pre-Civil War network of hideouts where former slaves stayed on their way to freedom. She said such large structures weren't built for that purpose. But it seems too elaborate to have been a root cellar, said Kiederer, who learned about the structure's discovery from a reporter. "I do think it was intended for a foundry of some sort, but perhaps never used since the walls aren't blackened," she wrote in an e-mail to The Journal News after viewing photos of the structure online. Mystic Pointe resident Gay Marglin took the photos, posting them on _http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265_ (http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265) . "Whoever built it was a real craftsman," Marglin said last week. "The thing looks brand new." Marglin, a member of the condominium's governing board, said the road sank because dirt underneath it was slipping into the structure's openings, including air tunnels leading through its roof toward the surface. The condo complex has been left with a predicament of how to fix the road and what to do about the chambers, Marglin said. One option is to break open the top of the structure and fill it in with earth. An engineer has provided a $50,000 estimate for filling it in, she said. The other option, estimated to be four times as expensive, is to build a retaining wall and cover the openings with custom-made concrete fixtures so the dirt doesn't keep seeping into the openings. Given the price constraints, the association is leaning toward the first -and more destructive -option, Marglin said. "I was hoping we could do something to preserve it," she said. "That doesn't look like it's economically feasible unless somebody steps up to the plate in the next month." Anyone who wants to contact her about the structure can e-mail _gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com_ (mailto:gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com) . Elise Godfrey, another Mystic Pointe resident, said the discovery of the red brick facility is interesting but the excavation site is a bit of an eyesore. Condo residents have dubbed it the "Big Dig." It has orange cones and fencing around it, and passers-by may not enter. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Could have any number of things it was used for includeing cattle to people to root cellar.... Its a part of Ossining history,and should be preserved. Jonnie quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: Wow that is spooky. It sure isn't any root cellar or wine cellar either by the looks of it. It looks very innocuous on the outside (last photo in slide show) but inside it looks like it was built to be some sort of torture chamber or underground holding place for prisoners who no matter how much they screamed would never be heard. I think it should be preserved at least until they find out what it was. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining > > The following article was just in the Poughkeepsie Journal today. Sounds > like an interesting mystery. Any guesses, my first thought was > underground > railroad, but would they bother with vaulted ceilings and arched > doorways, > probably not. > > Judy Wolf > > > Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining > > > By SEAN GORMAN > THE JOURNAL NEWS > > > (Original publication: July 5, 2007) > > OSSINING - Workers who were fixing a sinking road at the Mystic Pointe > condominium complex recently unearthed an underground series of rooms that > may > date to the mid-19th century. > The structure, found around early May, includes arched doorways and > 15-foot-high vaulted ceilings. It rests next to the exit road leading out > of the > condo community off Route 9. > "It's like a huge underground structure of rooms, all made out of brick > masonry, concrete ceilings," Art Haviland, Mystic Pointe's property > manager, said > last week. > Several archeologists and historians have visited the site, but no one can > say with certainty what the building was for, Haviland said. > Some experts think it may have been a root cellar, and they've suggested > it > may date to the mid-1800s, Haviland said. > The structure's exact size is also a mystery, because workers didn't > uncover > all of it. In their excavation they found "approximately eight" rooms, > Haviland said. > Ossining village Mayor William Hanauer, who got to go into the underground > chambers about a month ago, said other possibilities raised about its > purpose > are that it was a wine storage room or a barn for cattle, or part of a > tunnel > network used to transport things from boats on the Hudson River. > "It's like a long hall off of which are other hallways," Hanauer said. > "The > hallways themselves are sort of divided up into rooms. It was clearly > built to > be underground." > The mayor said one of the bricks unearthed while he was at the site was > thought to date to the 1840s. > Linda Kiederer, former president of the Yorktown Historical Society, > cautioned against jumping to the conclusion that the structure was a stop > on the > Underground Railroad - a pre-Civil War network of hideouts where former > slaves > stayed on their way to freedom. > She said such large structures weren't built for that purpose. But it > seems > too elaborate to have been a root cellar, said Kiederer, who learned about > the > structure's discovery from a reporter. > "I do think it was intended for a foundry of some sort, but perhaps never > used since the walls aren't blackened," she wrote in an e-mail to The > Journal > News after viewing photos of the structure online. > Mystic Pointe resident Gay Marglin took the photos, posting them on > _http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265_ > (http://ysqrd.smugmug.com/gallery/2831265) . > "Whoever built it was a real craftsman," Marglin said last week. "The > thing > looks brand new." > Marglin, a member of the condominium's governing board, said the road sank > because dirt underneath it was slipping into the structure's openings, > including air tunnels leading through its roof toward the surface. > The condo complex has been left with a predicament of how to fix the road > and > what to do about the chambers, Marglin said. One option is to break open > the > top of the structure and fill it in with earth. An engineer has provided > a > $50,000 estimate for filling it in, she said. > The other option, estimated to be four times as expensive, is to build a > retaining wall and cover the openings with custom-made concrete fixtures > so the > dirt doesn't keep seeping into the openings. > Given the price constraints, the association is leaning toward the first > -and more destructive -option, Marglin said. > "I was hoping we could do something to preserve it," she said. "That > doesn't > look like it's economically feasible unless somebody steps up to the plate > in > the next month." > Anyone who wants to contact her about the structure can e-mail > _gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com_ (mailto:gmarglin@rivertownsrealty.com) . > Elise Godfrey, another Mystic Pointe resident, said the discovery of the > red > brick facility is interesting but the excavation site is a bit of an > eyesore. > Condo residents have dubbed it the "Big Dig." 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Maureen: What can you tell me about Job? All I have is his name with his brother Solomon and his father Moses. Did he have a wife and children? Also who was Moses wife and any dates you may have? Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: Thanks for looking , Barbara. I also have Job Sherwood, another 5th great grandfather who is Solomon's brother. Their father is Moses Sherwood, my double 6th g-grandfather. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > Bill, I didn't get your attachment. Maureen, I do n't see a Solomon so > far, but as I keep saying my Sherwoods are a mess. > > Barbara > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > Barbara, > > If you are related to Solomon Sherwood then you are related to me. Please > let me know. He is my 5th grear grandfather, married Elizabeth Foseur > (Forshay). > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Forshay" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > >> Barbara: >> >> I will attach a family group sheet on Solomon SHERWOOD and his >> family. Let me know if this is a help or make any corrections that you >> may >> have. >> >> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Barbara de Mare wrote: Bill, >> >> My Sherwoods are from your era or earlier, and from the Connecticut--New >> York area around Greenwich. There is just no certainty as to the >> information I haver on any of them. Some of it makes no sense to me from >> a time-line point of view. Perhaps together we can find some useful info >> >> Barbara >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, >> news, photos & more. >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.

New Rochelle is my home town where my mother and grandmother were born and most of my children were born. I don't remember Bunker Hill but I moved from NR in 1971 and don't remember all the areas I used to know. > Can anyone tell me if there is a location in/around New Rochelle called Bunker Hill. I have a Will that references land near Bunker Hill. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

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Hello Listers, Can anyone tell me if there is a location in/around New Rochelle called Bunker Hill. I have a Will that references land near Bunker Hill. Thanks BILL STAPLES Researching STAPLES, HOLMES, ELMS, DEHART, SHERWOOD, NICHOLS, COSMAN. Website: www.wstaples.net

Thanks for looking , Barbara. I also have Job Sherwood, another 5th great grandfather who is Solomon's brother. Their father is Moses Sherwood, my double 6th g-grandfather. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > Bill, I didn't get your attachment. Maureen, I do n't see a Solomon so > far, but as I keep saying my Sherwoods are a mess. > > Barbara > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > Barbara, > > If you are related to Solomon Sherwood then you are related to me. Please > let me know. He is my 5th grear grandfather, married Elizabeth Foseur > (Forshay). > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > >> Barbara: >> >> I will attach a family group sheet on Solomon SHERWOOD and his >> family. Let me know if this is a help or make any corrections that you >> may >> have. >> >> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Barbara de Mare <barbarademare@yahoo.com> wrote: Bill, >> >> My Sherwoods are from your era or earlier, and from the Connecticut--New >> York area around Greenwich. There is just no certainty as to the >> information I haver on any of them. Some of it makes no sense to me from >> a time-line point of view. Perhaps together we can find some useful info >> >> Barbara >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, >> news, photos & more. >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, I didn't get your attachment. Maureen, I do n't see a Solomon so far, but as I keep saying my Sherwoods are a mess. Barbara Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:10:55 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD Barbara, If you are related to Solomon Sherwood then you are related to me. Please let me know. He is my 5th grear grandfather, married Elizabeth Foseur (Forshay). Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" <billforshay@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > Barbara: > > I will attach a family group sheet on Solomon SHERWOOD and his > family. Let me know if this is a help or make any corrections that you may > have. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Barbara de Mare <barbarademare@yahoo.com> wrote: Bill, > > My Sherwoods are from your era or earlier, and from the Connecticut--New > York area around Greenwich. There is just no certainty as to the > information I haver on any of them. Some of it makes no sense to me from > a time-line point of view. Perhaps together we can find some useful info > > Barbara > > > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for checking your book for Thomas Harford Elizabeth. He'll show up somewhere sometime. Sandee