Here's what I have for Nathan Bailey. I would note that it seems the name Canniff (and various spellings) was also sometimes interpreted as "Kniffen" which I believe is a separate distinct family. I note, too, that the surname Bailey was sometimes interpreted as "Besley" or "Beasley" which is a separate, distinct family. I welcome any additions, corrections, etc. -- Pat -------------------------- Nathan Bailey, son of Nicholas Bailey & Margaret -?-, m. Esther Cennieff (Canniff; Kniffen), dau. of Jeremiah Canniff & -?-. Nathan Bailey d. about 1712 Esther Canniff was b. Mamaroneck The Manor of West Farms was part of the Borough Town of Westchester. The original deed from the Indians, with their names attached with "their mark" each being the rude drawing of an animal, in the ownership or at least in the possession of Mr. Francis W. Liggett of New York. The territory must have covered some thousands of acres. It was dated March 12, 1663 and was signed "marks" in the presence of Edward Walters, Richard Ponton, and Nathan Bailey. They lived on Van Cortlandt Manor. Upon the consolidation of the "Manor of Cortlandt" Church with the "Old Dutch Church of Sleepy Hollow", they transferred their membership to the latter, appearing on the register as the 85th and 86th members. Jeremiah Cennieff and his wife Antje, together with William Teller and Marritje (Mary Kniffen) his wife, transferred their membership at the same time. No date is given as to the agreement of the people of the "Manor of Cortlandt" uniting with those of "Philipsburgh" at Tarrytown, N. Y., but it was about 1698, or very soon after the organizing of the "Old Sleepy Hollow Church"1 (Liber B. On P. 88), Nicholas Bayly now living in Westchester deeded to son Nathan Bayly of the same place, land in the Long Reach Patent, March 4, 1688/9. Signed "Balie" 20 March 1703 (Westchester Town Records, Book 3, p. 276) -- Nathan Bayly, late of Westchester, now living on Rick Abrams land in Westchester County, confirms a sale he made to Peregrine Turner in 1698, land formerly in possession of Edward Collier, guardian of Rachel, daughter of Peregrine Turner, now wife of John Jennings, Jr. Wit: Nathaniel Bayly and Harrick Lend. 20 March 1703.1 A record from the Tarrytown Ref Ch says, "Ester Cennieff, widow of Natan Beeley, [Nathan Bailey] born in Mareneck, lives on the Manor of Cortlandt, m. Mar. 1, 1718, Isack Larens widower of Eve Lechgester, born in Wessester [Westchester] lives in Esester" [Eastchester]. Esther Cennieff m. (2) 1 March 1718 Tarrytown Ref Ch, Isaac Larens/Lawrence, widower of Eva Lancaster. ---children of Nathan Bailey & Esther Cennieff [Canniff]: * Nathan Bailey * Jeremiah Bailey, m. Antje -?- * Sara Bailey, m. 16 Aug 1715 Tarrytown Ref Ch, Hendrick Lent * Catharine Bailey, m. Jacobus TerBush/Bos, son of Johannes Ter Bos & Elizabeth Hendricksen * Dyna Bailey, m. 26 May 1716 Jan Smet. She was "a y.d. b. in the Hoogelandt, l. at Kightewangh; he was a y.m. b. on the Bay of L.I. * Margrieta Bailey, bp. 2 Aug 1698 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Willem Sonderling, Margrietje Sonderling) * Marritje Bailey, bp. 1701 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Wolffert Ecker, Marritje his wife) * Rachgel Belly (Rachel Bailey), bp. 26 Oct 1703 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Herrick Van Lendt, Cornelia his wife) * Jan Balle (Jan Bailey), bp. 26 March 1706 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Jan Hermanse, Annitje Heyet); m. Mary Ter Bush, dau. of Johhanes Ter Bos & Elizabeth Hendricksen * Elizabeth Bailey, bp. 5 June 1711 Tarrytown Ref Ch (wit: Jeremy Kenniff, Elisabet Bennitt) ---Sources: [1] Canfield, Amos, "Westchester County, N.Y. Miscellanea: Abstracts from the Records of the Town of Westchester, New York, now at the Comptroller's Office, Municipal Building, New York City" in New York Genealogical & Biographical Record, Oct 1929 (Vol. 60, No. 4), p. 307; Briggs, Harry Tallmadge and John Greene Briggs, The Colonial Ancestry of the Family of John Greene Briggs and Isabell Gibbs de Groff, N.p., n.d.; Cole, David, First Record Book of the "Old Dutch Church of Sleepy Hollow"...The First Reformed Church of Tarrytown, NY, 1901 ----------------------------- > >From Marg S. >"Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 114, >"CANNIFF", by Grenville Mackenzie, records >1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIF settled in Westchester before 1657, >and in Mamaroneck before 1670, and had the following children: >2. Jeremiah, b.abt. 1660, married Anne WOOD >3. Esther, b. abt. 1665, married Nathan BAILEY, married 1718, Isaac LAWRENCE. > >On 19 Aug 1707 Abraham Van Amborgh and Maria, his wife, had their >daughter Esther baptized. The witnesses were Nathan Bally and >Esther, his wife. > >Recent posts on Bayly surname. Seeking information on this >Westchester family, perhaps from New Haven Ct. 1644. Perhaps >patentee in West Farms. >Searching for information. > >thx, msb > >*************************************** >Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >*************************************** >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL the.wardells@gte.net

I am seeking information on Daniel Searing, his birth marriage, wife's name and the birthdates of their children. The dates I have are estimates. I have the following information: 1 Daniel SEARING -------------------------------------------------- Birth: ca 1750, New York Death: 1800, Westchester, New York Abstract of the Title of John Stevens in Bounds in East Chester on behalf of the New York Industrial Home Association #1 New Your 1851 FHL 974.727 R21a pg 26-30 He served in the Revolutionary War. Searing, Dan'l, 1742-, Revolutionary War. Searles, Edward, He is on the 1790 Census Eastchester, Westchester, New York; Roll: M637_6; His Children: Mary (ca1784-1835) married no date Alexander Fowler Jane (ca1782-) unmarried Charles (ca1786-) need spouses name Moses (ca1788-) married no date Susannah Elizabeth no date married no date Augustus Fowler I have my line proven to Alexander Fowler and need to move back another generation for another DAR supplemental. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks

or it's variations, I believe, is Dutch for Dorthy. Chas.

>From Marg S. "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 114, "CANNIFF", by Grenville Mackenzie, records 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIF settled in Westchester before 1657, and in Mamaroneck before 1670, and had the following children: 2. Jeremiah, b.abt. 1660, married Anne WOOD 3. Esther, b. abt. 1665, married Nathan BAILEY, married 1718, Isaac LAWRENCE. On 19 Aug 1707 Abraham Van Amborgh and Maria, his wife, had their daughter Esther baptized. The witnesses were Nathan Bally and Esther, his wife. Recent posts on Bayly surname. Seeking information on this Westchester family, perhaps from New Haven Ct. 1644. Perhaps patentee in West Farms. Searching for information. thx, msb

Thank you again for your reply Maureen. as I said earlier, I have a few opinions re the Van AMBURGHs and the Mackenzie Papers too, and will send you a report when I have it organised. I have my disabled mum living with me and mind the two year old grandson three days a week, so concentrating on genealogy is a bit hard at the moment. Mum goes in to respite (ie, giving me a break!!) for two weeks at the beginning of September, so I will leave the Van AMBURGHs 'til then, and I can just keep at it!! Meanwhile, would love the details of Hendrick's marriage records that you have please. Cheers Marg Smith Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > Thanks, Marge. > > I do have Hannah Smith's and Hendrick Van Amburgh's marriage record. I was > a > newbie when I acquired that info and was astounded re the mangled > spellings. > After more than a decade of research nothing about genealogy astounds me > anymore.LOL. > > As I understand it, Abraham was Hannah's only child (and then she died) so > I > am puzzled now about the Fishkill record. I may have a hard copy of the > info > I was sent several years ago by a couple of Listers out West. It is on my > desktop computer too but I can't access that right now...long story. At > the > time I had posted a question re Matthew Smith and they answered with info > on > Hendrick and his second wife. > > Anything you can contribute to clear up my confusion will be deeply > appreciated. > > BTW I know my Smiths came from somewhere in England as did your father in > law Matthew but where and when is a brickwall. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:39 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > > >> Thank you for your email Maureen. >> I have the baptism and marriage record for Hendrick, as follows: >> Baptismal and Marriage Register of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, >> Ulster >> County, New York 1660-1809; Transcribed and Edited by Roswell Randall >> Hoes >> (published in New York 1891; reprinted by Genealogical Publishing, >> Baltimore, MD 1980 & 1997) [Hoes B#876] 24 November 1695: Hendrick; >> Parents: >> Abraa Hendrickse, Annetje Kennef; Sponsors: Dirrick Jansse Schepmoes, >> Marytje Schepmoes. >> >> Hendrick Van AMBURGH married Hannah SMIth at Tarrytown: 25 April 1732: >> Hendreck Namburgh, b. in Dutjes Conti, l. on the Mennaer of Cortllandt, >> and >> Hanna Smet, j. d., b. and l. in Phillips Burgh. >> >> Children I have recorded are: >> 1. Possibly Abraham >> 2. Marya. page 68 of the Fishkill Church records shows this: 28 April >> 1745 >> Marya was baptised. Parents are listed as Hendrick Van Amburgh & Sara Van >> Amburgh, with the witness shown as Hanne Smit.( I believe the wife & >> witness >> should be reversed!) >> >> I would appreciate any details you have on son Abraham please, as I have >> no >> actual documentation for him. >> >> I have also found (what I suspect) are errors in the Van AMBURGH pages of >> "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 733, "van Amburgh", >> by >> Grenville Mackenzie, >> which I will post soon too. You may be interested in this info, or >> additional (baptism for example) info for the CANNIFF / Van AMBURGH >> family. >> Just let us know. >> >> My father-in-law (and son) was (and is) Matthew SMITH - but from County >> Durham, England >> >> Cheers >> Marg Smith >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >> >> >>> Marg, >>> >>> Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o Caleb >>> Smith and Unknown. >>> >>> Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his grandfather. >>> Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had >>> several >>> children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. >>> >>> I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. My >>> primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back past >>> Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in >>> Eastchester >>> in >>> 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest >>> (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. >>> >>> That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are >>> related >>> to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Maureen, I have the Sleepy Hollow Church records and they list "given names, with their equivalents" and Dercktie is listed as the feminine of Derick. Maureen, do you have the entire record of Dercktie and Barent? It lists both of their deceased spouses. Jean Ann -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of quillpen1 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:42 PM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF Thanks, Marge. I'll be waiting. Hendrick and Hannah's marriage record that I have is the same one you have, I think. It states: #100, 1732, Namburgh, Hendreck and Smet, Hanna Marriage date, April 25, 1732, he was born in Dutjes Conti and living in Mennear of Cortlandt, she was born and living in Phillips Burgh. What is the English translation of Dercktie?? I have a Dercktie Smet marrying a Barent Duyscher.....the Smet would be Smith and her husband would be Barent Dutcher but I don't know what Dercktie stands for in English. This was in Phillipsburg in 1717. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > Thank you again for your reply Maureen. as I said earlier, I have a few > opinions re the Van AMBURGHs and the Mackenzie Papers too, and will send > you a report when I have it organised. > > I have my disabled mum living with me and mind the two year old grandson > three days a week, so concentrating on genealogy is a bit hard at the > moment. > > Mum goes in to respite (ie, giving me a break!!) for two weeks at the > beginning of September, so I will leave the Van AMBURGHs 'til then, and I > can just keep at it!! > > Meanwhile, would love the details of Hendrick's marriage records that you > have please. > > Cheers > Marg Smith > > > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > > >> Thanks, Marge. >> >> I do have Hannah Smith's and Hendrick Van Amburgh's marriage record. I >> was >> a >> newbie when I acquired that info and was astounded re the mangled >> spellings. >> After more than a decade of research nothing about genealogy astounds me >> anymore.LOL. >> >> As I understand it, Abraham was Hannah's only child (and then she died) >> so >> I >> am puzzled now about the Fishkill record. I may have a hard copy of the >> info >> I was sent several years ago by a couple of Listers out West. It is on my >> desktop computer too but I can't access that right now...long story. At >> the >> time I had posted a question re Matthew Smith and they answered with info >> on >> Hendrick and his second wife. >> >> Anything you can contribute to clear up my confusion will be deeply >> appreciated. >> >> BTW I know my Smiths came from somewhere in England as did your father >> in >> law Matthew but where and when is a brickwall. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >> >> >>> Thank you for your email Maureen. >>> I have the baptism and marriage record for Hendrick, as follows: >>> Baptismal and Marriage Register of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, >>> Ulster >>> County, New York 1660-1809; Transcribed and Edited by Roswell Randall >>> Hoes >>> (published in New York 1891; reprinted by Genealogical Publishing, >>> Baltimore, MD 1980 & 1997) [Hoes B#876] 24 November 1695: Hendrick; >>> Parents: >>> Abraa Hendrickse, Annetje Kennef; Sponsors: Dirrick Jansse Schepmoes, >>> Marytje Schepmoes. >>> >>> Hendrick Van AMBURGH married Hannah SMIth at Tarrytown: 25 April 1732: >>> Hendreck Namburgh, b. in Dutjes Conti, l. on the Mennaer of Cortllandt, >>> and >>> Hanna Smet, j. d., b. and l. in Phillips Burgh. >>> >>> Children I have recorded are: >>> 1. Possibly Abraham >>> 2. Marya. page 68 of the Fishkill Church records shows this: 28 April >>> 1745 >>> Marya was baptised. Parents are listed as Hendrick Van Amburgh & Sara >>> Van >>> Amburgh, with the witness shown as Hanne Smit.( I believe the wife & >>> witness >>> should be reversed!) >>> >>> I would appreciate any details you have on son Abraham please, as I have >>> no >>> actual documentation for him. >>> >>> I have also found (what I suspect) are errors in the Van AMBURGH pages >>> of >>> "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 733, "van >>> Amburgh", >>> by >>> Grenville Mackenzie, >>> which I will post soon too. You may be interested in this info, or >>> additional (baptism for example) info for the CANNIFF / Van AMBURGH >>> family. >>> Just let us know. >>> >>> My father-in-law (and son) was (and is) Matthew SMITH - but from County >>> Durham, England >>> >>> Cheers >>> Marg Smith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >>> >>> >>>> Marg, >>>> >>>> Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o Caleb >>>> Smith and Unknown. >>>> >>>> Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his grandfather. >>>> Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had >>>> several >>>> children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. >>>> >>>> I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. >>>> My >>>> primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back >>>> past >>>> Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in >>>> Eastchester >>>> in >>>> 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest >>>> (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. >>>> >>>> That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are >>>> related >>>> to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. >>>> >>>> Maureen >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't know if I had your right email ----- Original Message ----- From: J.H. To: _cfscenic@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:32 AM Subject: Fw: [NYWESTCH] St. Michael's Cemetery, Queens - MADUSKE Did you get this? As it came back to me. :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: J.H. To: _cfscenic@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:26 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] St. Michael's Cemetery, Queens - MADUSKE Asked about your person in question, John Maduske, but any burials before 1927 Well thank you very much for trying! I will call that number but I'm sure I know what it will say, as I did get an answer from St. Michael's & I have to send $25 for any information & my husband hates to blow money like that & said we will go down there one day & look into it. Eh! Like I said I will try that number. Thank you so much. Junie :-)

"Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 115, "CANNIFF", by Grenville Mackenzie, records Richard KENNIFF / CANNIFF, born Philipsburg about 1737, married as his second wife, Eva, daughter of Jeremiah MABIE and widow of Peter SYFFER. Peter and Eva / Effie were my 5xGGrandparents. Would anyone have any documentation please for: * the marriage of Eva to her second husband Richard KENNIFF? * the will or death details for Richard, who, according to Mackenzie, resided in Ossining and died in 1801? * death details for Eva / Aggie / Effie? According to "THE FAMILY OF JOHANNIS SYFFER OF PHILIPSE MANOR" by Francis Jacques SYPHER Jr ( Reprinted from: The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol 103, January 1972) Affee SYPHER appears in the 1790 census for Mount Pleasant, and in 1803 in a Westchester County mortgage.(Liber H, p.79) * would anyone have access to the mortgage details please? Was she recorded as SYPHER or KENNIFF?? According to the pension papers of her son Peter, she died in 1825. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated Many thanks Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia

Thanks, Marge. I'll be waiting. Hendrick and Hannah's marriage record that I have is the same one you have, I think. It states: #100, 1732, Namburgh, Hendreck and Smet, Hanna Marriage date, April 25, 1732, he was born in Dutjes Conti and living in Mennear of Cortlandt, she was born and living in Phillips Burgh. What is the English translation of Dercktie?? I have a Dercktie Smet marrying a Barent Duyscher.....the Smet would be Smith and her husband would be Barent Dutcher but I don't know what Dercktie stands for in English. This was in Phillipsburg in 1717. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > Thank you again for your reply Maureen. as I said earlier, I have a few > opinions re the Van AMBURGHs and the Mackenzie Papers too, and will send > you a report when I have it organised. > > I have my disabled mum living with me and mind the two year old grandson > three days a week, so concentrating on genealogy is a bit hard at the > moment. > > Mum goes in to respite (ie, giving me a break!!) for two weeks at the > beginning of September, so I will leave the Van AMBURGHs 'til then, and I > can just keep at it!! > > Meanwhile, would love the details of Hendrick's marriage records that you > have please. > > Cheers > Marg Smith > > > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > > >> Thanks, Marge. >> >> I do have Hannah Smith's and Hendrick Van Amburgh's marriage record. I >> was >> a >> newbie when I acquired that info and was astounded re the mangled >> spellings. >> After more than a decade of research nothing about genealogy astounds me >> anymore.LOL. >> >> As I understand it, Abraham was Hannah's only child (and then she died) >> so >> I >> am puzzled now about the Fishkill record. I may have a hard copy of the >> info >> I was sent several years ago by a couple of Listers out West. It is on my >> desktop computer too but I can't access that right now...long story. At >> the >> time I had posted a question re Matthew Smith and they answered with info >> on >> Hendrick and his second wife. >> >> Anything you can contribute to clear up my confusion will be deeply >> appreciated. >> >> BTW I know my Smiths came from somewhere in England as did your father >> in >> law Matthew but where and when is a brickwall. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >> >> >>> Thank you for your email Maureen. >>> I have the baptism and marriage record for Hendrick, as follows: >>> Baptismal and Marriage Register of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, >>> Ulster >>> County, New York 1660-1809; Transcribed and Edited by Roswell Randall >>> Hoes >>> (published in New York 1891; reprinted by Genealogical Publishing, >>> Baltimore, MD 1980 & 1997) [Hoes B#876] 24 November 1695: Hendrick; >>> Parents: >>> Abraa Hendrickse, Annetje Kennef; Sponsors: Dirrick Jansse Schepmoes, >>> Marytje Schepmoes. >>> >>> Hendrick Van AMBURGH married Hannah SMIth at Tarrytown: 25 April 1732: >>> Hendreck Namburgh, b. in Dutjes Conti, l. on the Mennaer of Cortllandt, >>> and >>> Hanna Smet, j. d., b. and l. in Phillips Burgh. >>> >>> Children I have recorded are: >>> 1. Possibly Abraham >>> 2. Marya. page 68 of the Fishkill Church records shows this: 28 April >>> 1745 >>> Marya was baptised. Parents are listed as Hendrick Van Amburgh & Sara >>> Van >>> Amburgh, with the witness shown as Hanne Smit.( I believe the wife & >>> witness >>> should be reversed!) >>> >>> I would appreciate any details you have on son Abraham please, as I have >>> no >>> actual documentation for him. >>> >>> I have also found (what I suspect) are errors in the Van AMBURGH pages >>> of >>> "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 733, "van >>> Amburgh", >>> by >>> Grenville Mackenzie, >>> which I will post soon too. You may be interested in this info, or >>> additional (baptism for example) info for the CANNIFF / Van AMBURGH >>> family. >>> Just let us know. >>> >>> My father-in-law (and son) was (and is) Matthew SMITH - but from County >>> Durham, England >>> >>> Cheers >>> Marg Smith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >>> >>> >>>> Marg, >>>> >>>> Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o Caleb >>>> Smith and Unknown. >>>> >>>> Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his grandfather. >>>> Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had >>>> several >>>> children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. >>>> >>>> I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. >>>> My >>>> primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back >>>> past >>>> Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in >>>> Eastchester >>>> in >>>> 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest >>>> (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. >>>> >>>> That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are >>>> related >>>> to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. >>>> >>>> Maureen >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your email Maureen. I have the baptism and marriage record for Hendrick, as follows: Baptismal and Marriage Register of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, Ulster County, New York 1660-1809; Transcribed and Edited by Roswell Randall Hoes (published in New York 1891; reprinted by Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, MD 1980 & 1997) [Hoes B#876] 24 November 1695: Hendrick; Parents: Abraa Hendrickse, Annetje Kennef; Sponsors: Dirrick Jansse Schepmoes, Marytje Schepmoes. Hendrick Van AMBURGH married Hannah SMIth at Tarrytown: 25 April 1732: Hendreck Namburgh, b. in Dutjes Conti, l. on the Mennaer of Cortllandt, and Hanna Smet, j. d., b. and l. in Phillips Burgh. Children I have recorded are: 1. Possibly Abraham 2. Marya. page 68 of the Fishkill Church records shows this: 28 April 1745 Marya was baptised. Parents are listed as Hendrick Van Amburgh & Sara Van Amburgh, with the witness shown as Hanne Smit.( I believe the wife & witness should be reversed!) I would appreciate any details you have on son Abraham please, as I have no actual documentation for him. I have also found (what I suspect) are errors in the Van AMBURGH pages of "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 733, "van Amburgh", by Grenville Mackenzie, which I will post soon too. You may be interested in this info, or additional (baptism for example) info for the CANNIFF / Van AMBURGH family. Just let us know. My father-in-law (and son) was (and is) Matthew SMITH - but from County Durham, England Cheers Marg Smith Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > Marg, > > Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o Caleb > Smith and Unknown. > > Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his grandfather. > Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had > several > children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. > > I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. My > primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back past > Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in Eastchester > in > 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest > (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. > > That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are > related > to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. > > Maureen >

Thanks, Marge. I do have Hannah Smith's and Hendrick Van Amburgh's marriage record. I was a newbie when I acquired that info and was astounded re the mangled spellings. After more than a decade of research nothing about genealogy astounds me anymore.LOL. As I understand it, Abraham was Hannah's only child (and then she died) so I am puzzled now about the Fishkill record. I may have a hard copy of the info I was sent several years ago by a couple of Listers out West. It is on my desktop computer too but I can't access that right now...long story. At the time I had posted a question re Matthew Smith and they answered with info on Hendrick and his second wife. Anything you can contribute to clear up my confusion will be deeply appreciated. BTW I know my Smiths came from somewhere in England as did your father in law Matthew but where and when is a brickwall. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > Thank you for your email Maureen. > I have the baptism and marriage record for Hendrick, as follows: > Baptismal and Marriage Register of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, > Ulster > County, New York 1660-1809; Transcribed and Edited by Roswell Randall Hoes > (published in New York 1891; reprinted by Genealogical Publishing, > Baltimore, MD 1980 & 1997) [Hoes B#876] 24 November 1695: Hendrick; > Parents: > Abraa Hendrickse, Annetje Kennef; Sponsors: Dirrick Jansse Schepmoes, > Marytje Schepmoes. > > Hendrick Van AMBURGH married Hannah SMIth at Tarrytown: 25 April 1732: > Hendreck Namburgh, b. in Dutjes Conti, l. on the Mennaer of Cortllandt, > and > Hanna Smet, j. d., b. and l. in Phillips Burgh. > > Children I have recorded are: > 1. Possibly Abraham > 2. Marya. page 68 of the Fishkill Church records shows this: 28 April 1745 > Marya was baptised. Parents are listed as Hendrick Van Amburgh & Sara Van > Amburgh, with the witness shown as Hanne Smit.( I believe the wife & > witness > should be reversed!) > > I would appreciate any details you have on son Abraham please, as I have > no > actual documentation for him. > > I have also found (what I suspect) are errors in the Van AMBURGH pages of > "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 733, "van Amburgh", > by > Grenville Mackenzie, > which I will post soon too. You may be interested in this info, or > additional (baptism for example) info for the CANNIFF / Van AMBURGH > family. > Just let us know. > > My father-in-law (and son) was (and is) Matthew SMITH - but from County > Durham, England > > Cheers > Marg Smith > > > > > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > > >> Marg, >> >> Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o Caleb >> Smith and Unknown. >> >> Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his grandfather. >> Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had >> several >> children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. >> >> I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. My >> primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back past >> Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in Eastchester >> in >> 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest >> (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. >> >> That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are >> related >> to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. >> >> Maureen >> > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very interesting!! My 3rd great grandmother was named Effie and that's all I know about her unfortunately. She married my 3rd greatgrandfather John Smith son on Caleb Smith and Elizabeth Sherwood. I have all this documented in both family and non family records.....but all records I've found so far have failed to elaborate on Effie. Even the name "Effie" might not be her given name. It has been suggested that it could be Euphemia, Frances or just plain Effie. Eva is a new one for me. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Eva MABIE, Richard KENNIFF > "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 115, "CANNIFF", by > Grenville Mackenzie, records Richard KENNIFF / CANNIFF, born Philipsburg > about 1737, married as his second wife, Eva, daughter of Jeremiah MABIE > and widow of Peter SYFFER. Peter and Eva / Effie were my 5xGGrandparents. > > Would anyone have any documentation please for: > * the marriage of Eva to her second husband Richard KENNIFF? > * the will or death details for Richard, who, according to Mackenzie, > resided in Ossining and died in 1801? > * death details for Eva / Aggie / Effie? > > According to "THE FAMILY OF JOHANNIS SYFFER OF PHILIPSE MANOR" by Francis > Jacques SYPHER Jr ( Reprinted from: The New York Genealogical and > Biographical Record, Vol 103, January 1972) Affee SYPHER appears in the > 1790 census for Mount Pleasant, and in 1803 in a Westchester County > mortgage.(Liber H, p.79) > > * would anyone have access to the mortgage details please? Was she > recorded as SYPHER or KENNIFF?? > > According to the pension papers of her son Peter, she died in 1825. > > Any assistance will be greatly appreciated > > Many thanks > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marg -- Was the Richard Canniff who married as his second wife, Eva/Aggie/Effie Mabie, the son of Jeremias Canniff & Annatie de Rievere? Do you know who Richard married as his first wife? A son Richard, was mentioned in the 1763 will of Jeremiah Caniff -- In his will dated 11 May 1763, probated 28 May 1764, Jeremiah Caniff, of the Manor of Phillipsburgh, in Westchester County, mentioned eldest son Abraham; son Richard; dau. Mary Free; children - Abraham, John, Jonas, James, Richard, Ann Stube, Mary Free and Elizabeth Hunt. Made friends John Stube and Jeremiah Stevens executors. Wit: Danniel Miller, Mary Miller, Samuel Haddon. (from: Pelletreau, William S., Abstracts of Wills on File in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York, pub. as Collections of the New York Historical Society (Vol. VI, 1760-1766, pub. 1897), p. 328) Pat >"Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 115, >"CANNIFF", by Grenville Mackenzie, records Richard KENNIFF / >CANNIFF, born Philipsburg about 1737, married as his second wife, >Eva, daughter of Jeremiah MABIE and widow of Peter SYFFER. Peter and >Eva / Effie were my 5xGGrandparents. > >Would anyone have any documentation please for: >* the marriage of Eva to her second husband Richard KENNIFF? >* the will or death details for Richard, who, according to >Mackenzie, resided in Ossining and died in 1801? >* death details for Eva / Aggie / Effie? > >According to "THE FAMILY OF JOHANNIS SYFFER OF PHILIPSE MANOR" by >Francis Jacques SYPHER Jr ( Reprinted from: The New York >Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol 103, January 1972) Affee >SYPHER appears in the 1790 census for Mount Pleasant, and in 1803 in >a Westchester County mortgage.(Liber H, p.79) > >* would anyone have access to the mortgage details please? Was she >recorded as SYPHER or KENNIFF?? > >According to the pension papers of her son Peter, she died in 1825. > >Any assistance will be greatly appreciated > >Many thanks >Marg Smith >Mardi, NSW >Australia -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL the.wardells@gte.net

"Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 114, "CANNIFF", by Grenville Mackenzie, records 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIF settled in Westchester before 1657, and in Mamaroneck before 1670, and had the following children: 2. Jeremiah, b.abt. 1660, married Anne WOOD 3. Esther, b. abt. 1665, married Nathan BAILEY, married 1718, Isaac LAWRENCE. Mackenzie then goes on to record Jeremiah 2 had children, including: 4. Anna, b.1685, married Abraham Van AMBURGH 5. Elizabeth, (no birth details) married William BENNETT Another four children are listed: Jeremiah, Abigail, Maria and William,.born between 1689 and 1701. I thought it was interesting that Annatje, who married Abraham Van AMBURGH, was having children (1695 -1714) in a similar time frame as her father, Jeremiah 2 . I thought it was interesting that Annatje's sister Elizabeth, married William BENNETT was having children in the same time frame (1707-1709) as her father, Jeremiah 2. I thought it was interetsing that Annatje had (her aunty??) Esther, daughter of Jeremiah 1, as a sponsor for her daughter Esther's baptism. Then I received some invaluable assistance from a Dutch Colonies List Member, Pam SEARS, who found the following information: * Baptism Record: The Reformed Dutch Church of New York, page 191: Annekan, oud 3 Jaren, Jeremias, 30 June 1689: Parents: Jeremiah KENNICH, Anne WOOD. Sponsors: Jacob de KEY, Hillegond TEUNIS. Jeremiah 2 had a daughter Annekan, baptised at the age of three with her brother Jeremiah 3. on the 30 June 1689. Did Jeremiah 2 and Annatje WOOD/ WOELFSE have two daughters with the same first name, who lived, married and had children? Pam SEARS also found Antje Canniff/Ceniff, married Jacobus De Baun 12 Jan 1709 at the Reformed Church of Tappan, Rockland Co., NY" The 1702 Census of Orange County, NY, records Jeremiah CENIFF, and Anna, his wife, had three sons and three daughters The transcriptions of baptisms by Pam SEARS records these children as: 1. Annekan 2. Jeremiah (Both baptised together 30 June 1689) 3. Abigael: Baptism Record: The Reformed Dutch Church of New York, page 208: Abigael, 11 May 1692. Parents: Jeremias KENNIP, Anna WOOD. Sponsors: Teunis de KEY, Helena van BRUG 4. Marytje: Baptism Record of the Tappan Reformed Church, Tappan, Rockland County, NY (1694-1899): 11 April 1695: Marytje. Parents: Jeremy CENNIFF, Anna WOELFFS; Sponsors: Cozyn HARINGH, Maria FOERS. 5. Unknown KENNIF - a male child (1702 Census) 6. William: Baptism Record of the Tappan Reformed Church, Tappan, Rockland County, NY (1694-1899): 14 January 1702: William. Parents: Jeremia CENNIFF, Annitje CENNIFF; Sponsors: William JUWELL. No Annatje, b. abt 1670, married Abraham Van AMBURGH and no Elizabeth, b. abt 1675, married William BENNETT. Of course these two would have been married and having children before this census, but the BIG question is: Are they the daughters of Jeremiah 2, as Mackenzie records, or are they HIS SISTERS, and the daughters of Jeremiah 1??? Would Jeremiah 2 have a much older family followed years later by six more children? Would Jeremiah 2 give two of his daughters the same first name when neither died young?? Mackenzie records Elizabeth as a daughter of Jeremiah 2, however the baptism of two of her sons at the approximate same time as her father is questionable, though possible. It would be more plausible that she is the sister of Jeremiah 2. Mackenzie records Anna, married Abraham Van AMBURGH, as a daughter of Jeremiah 2, however the 1702 census of Orange County, NY records: Jeremiah CENNIF and Anna, his wife, had three male children and three female children. All female children have been accounted for, through baptism records, and two Annas would have been family members if the Mackenzie information was also considered. So were Elizabeth and Anna older siblings, already married and having children, or were they actually the sisters of Jeremiah, not his daughters? Did Annatje have her aunty Esther, daughter of Jeremiah 1, as a sponsor for her daughter Esther's baptism, or was sponsor Esther actually Annatje's sister?? With the invaluable help of Pam SEARS, we suggest the following: 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIFsettled in Westchester before 1657, and had the following children: i Jeremiah Kenniff, born Abt. 1660; married Annatje Woelfse Abt. 1685. ii Annatje Kenniff, born Abt. 1670; married Abraham Van Amburgh. Abt 1694 iii. Esther Kenniff, born Abt. 1672; married Nathan Bally Abt. 1695. iv. Elizabeth Kenniff, born Abt. 1675; married Willem Bennett Abt. 1702. Jeremiah 2, married Anna WOOD/ WOULFES had the following children: (baptismsa as recorded above:) 1. Annekan b abt 1686 2. Jeremiah, b. abt 1689 3. Abigael, b. abt 1692 4. Marytje, b. abt. 1695 5. Unknown KENNIF (male child) 6. William, b. abt 1701. Annatje KENNIFF, b. abt 1670, married Abraham Van AMBURGH abt 1694, had the following children: i Hendrick, b. abt 1695 ii Isaac, b. abt. 1697 iii Annatje, b. abt 1700 iv Elizabeth v Esther b. abt. 1707 vi Sarah b. abt. 1709 vii Jeremiah, b. abt. 1712 viii Rachel, b.abt. 1714 Apologies for not putting in all the baptism details for the last mentioned family - this email is getting too long!! Would anyone like to comment, correct or add to our findings please? All comments and suggestions are very welcome! Many thanks, especially to Pam Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia (where its almost midnight!!)

Carol, Thanks for the advice on checking for the marriage record with the local historical society! I'll definitely do that! Shannon ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Addendum: Forgot to add in the previous post that Hannah Smith was ca 17 yrs old when she married Hendrick Van Amburgh. He was almost as old as her father. This was common in the early days in this area because there were few settlers at the time......maybe all areas but I can't state that for sure because I haven't researched all areas.LOL. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> To: <NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 114, "CANNIFF", by > Grenville Mackenzie, records > 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIF settled in Westchester before 1657, and in > Mamaroneck before 1670, and had the following children: > 2. Jeremiah, b.abt. 1660, married Anne WOOD > 3. Esther, b. abt. 1665, married Nathan BAILEY, married 1718, Isaac > LAWRENCE. > > Mackenzie then goes on to record Jeremiah 2 had children, including: > 4. Anna, b.1685, married Abraham Van AMBURGH > 5. Elizabeth, (no birth details) married William BENNETT > Another four children are listed: Jeremiah, Abigail, Maria and > William,.born between 1689 and 1701. > > I thought it was interesting that Annatje, who married Abraham Van > AMBURGH, was having children (1695 -1714) in a similar time frame as her > father, Jeremiah 2 . > > I thought it was interesting that Annatje's sister Elizabeth, married > William BENNETT was having children in the same time frame (1707-1709) as > her father, Jeremiah 2. > > I thought it was interetsing that Annatje had (her aunty??) Esther, > daughter of Jeremiah 1, as a sponsor for her daughter Esther's baptism. > > Then I received some invaluable assistance from a Dutch Colonies List > Member, Pam SEARS, who found the following information: > > * Baptism Record: The Reformed Dutch Church of New York, page 191: > Annekan, oud 3 Jaren, Jeremias, 30 June 1689: Parents: Jeremiah KENNICH, > Anne WOOD. Sponsors: Jacob de KEY, Hillegond TEUNIS. > > Jeremiah 2 had a daughter Annekan, baptised at the age of three with her > brother Jeremiah 3. on the 30 June 1689. > Did Jeremiah 2 and Annatje WOOD/ WOELFSE have two daughters with the same > first name, who lived, married and had children? > Pam SEARS also found Antje Canniff/Ceniff, married Jacobus De Baun 12 Jan > 1709 at the Reformed Church of Tappan, Rockland Co., NY" > > The 1702 Census of Orange County, NY, records Jeremiah CENIFF, and Anna, > his wife, had three sons and three daughters > > The transcriptions of baptisms by Pam SEARS records these children as: > 1. Annekan > 2. Jeremiah > (Both baptised together 30 June 1689) > 3. Abigael: Baptism Record: The Reformed Dutch Church of New York, page > 208: Abigael, 11 May 1692. Parents: Jeremias KENNIP, Anna WOOD. Sponsors: > Teunis de KEY, Helena van BRUG > 4. Marytje: Baptism Record of the Tappan Reformed Church, Tappan, Rockland > County, NY (1694-1899): 11 April 1695: Marytje. Parents: Jeremy CENNIFF, > Anna WOELFFS; Sponsors: Cozyn HARINGH, Maria FOERS. > 5. Unknown KENNIF - a male child (1702 Census) > 6. William: Baptism Record of the Tappan Reformed Church, Tappan, Rockland > County, NY (1694-1899): 14 January 1702: William. Parents: Jeremia > CENNIFF, Annitje CENNIFF; Sponsors: William JUWELL. > > No Annatje, b. abt 1670, married Abraham Van AMBURGH and no Elizabeth, b. > abt 1675, married William BENNETT. Of course these two would have been > married and having children before this census, > > but the BIG question is: > Are they the daughters of Jeremiah 2, as Mackenzie records, or are they > HIS SISTERS, and the daughters of Jeremiah 1??? > > Would Jeremiah 2 have a much older family followed years later by six more > children? > > Would Jeremiah 2 give two of his daughters the same first name when > neither died young?? > > Mackenzie records Elizabeth as a daughter of Jeremiah 2, however the > baptism of two of her sons at the approximate same time as her father is > questionable, though possible. It would be more plausible that she is the > sister of Jeremiah 2. > > Mackenzie records Anna, married Abraham Van AMBURGH, as a daughter of > Jeremiah 2, however the 1702 census of Orange County, NY records: Jeremiah > CENNIF and Anna, his wife, had three male children and three female > children. All female children have been accounted for, through baptism > records, and two Annas would have been family members if the Mackenzie > information was also considered. So were Elizabeth and Anna older > siblings, already married and having children, or were they actually the > sisters of Jeremiah, not his daughters? > > Did Annatje have her aunty Esther, daughter of Jeremiah 1, as a sponsor > for her daughter Esther's baptism, or was sponsor Esther actually > Annatje's sister?? > > With the invaluable help of Pam SEARS, we suggest the following: > > 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIFsettled in Westchester before 1657, and had > the following children: > > i Jeremiah Kenniff, born Abt. 1660; married Annatje Woelfse Abt. 1685. > > ii Annatje Kenniff, born Abt. 1670; married Abraham Van Amburgh. Abt 1694 > > iii. Esther Kenniff, born Abt. 1672; married Nathan Bally Abt. 1695. > > iv. Elizabeth Kenniff, born Abt. 1675; married Willem Bennett Abt. 1702. > > Jeremiah 2, married Anna WOOD/ WOULFES had the following children: > (baptismsa as recorded above:) > 1. Annekan b abt 1686 > 2. Jeremiah, b. abt 1689 > 3. Abigael, b. abt 1692 > 4. Marytje, b. abt. 1695 > 5. Unknown KENNIF (male child) > 6. William, b. abt 1701. > > Annatje KENNIFF, b. abt 1670, married Abraham Van AMBURGH abt 1694, had > the following children: > i Hendrick, b. abt 1695 > ii Isaac, b. abt. 1697 > iii Annatje, b. abt 1700 > iv Elizabeth > v Esther b. abt. 1707 > vi Sarah b. abt. 1709 > vii Jeremiah, b. abt. 1712 > viii Rachel, b.abt. 1714 > > Apologies for not putting in all the baptism details for the last > mentioned family - this email is getting too long!! > > Would anyone like to comment, correct or add to our findings please? All > comments and suggestions are very welcome! > > Many thanks, especially to Pam > > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia (where its almost midnight!!) > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marg, Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o Caleb Smith and Unknown. Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his grandfather. Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had several children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. My primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back past Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in Eastchester in 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are related to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> To: <NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 114, "CANNIFF", by > Grenville Mackenzie, records > 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIF settled in Westchester before 1657, and in > Mamaroneck before 1670, and had the following children: > 2. Jeremiah, b.abt. 1660, married Anne WOOD > 3. Esther, b. abt. 1665, married Nathan BAILEY, married 1718, Isaac > LAWRENCE. > > Mackenzie then goes on to record Jeremiah 2 had children, including: > 4. Anna, b.1685, married Abraham Van AMBURGH > 5. Elizabeth, (no birth details) married William BENNETT > Another four children are listed: Jeremiah, Abigail, Maria and > William,.born between 1689 and 1701. > > I thought it was interesting that Annatje, who married Abraham Van > AMBURGH, was having children (1695 -1714) in a similar time frame as her > father, Jeremiah 2 . > > I thought it was interesting that Annatje's sister Elizabeth, married > William BENNETT was having children in the same time frame (1707-1709) as > her father, Jeremiah 2. > > I thought it was interetsing that Annatje had (her aunty??) Esther, > daughter of Jeremiah 1, as a sponsor for her daughter Esther's baptism. > > Then I received some invaluable assistance from a Dutch Colonies List > Member, Pam SEARS, who found the following information: > > * Baptism Record: The Reformed Dutch Church of New York, page 191: > Annekan, oud 3 Jaren, Jeremias, 30 June 1689: Parents: Jeremiah KENNICH, > Anne WOOD. Sponsors: Jacob de KEY, Hillegond TEUNIS. > > Jeremiah 2 had a daughter Annekan, baptised at the age of three with her > brother Jeremiah 3. on the 30 June 1689. > Did Jeremiah 2 and Annatje WOOD/ WOELFSE have two daughters with the same > first name, who lived, married and had children? > Pam SEARS also found Antje Canniff/Ceniff, married Jacobus De Baun 12 Jan > 1709 at the Reformed Church of Tappan, Rockland Co., NY" > > The 1702 Census of Orange County, NY, records Jeremiah CENIFF, and Anna, > his wife, had three sons and three daughters > > The transcriptions of baptisms by Pam SEARS records these children as: > 1. Annekan > 2. Jeremiah > (Both baptised together 30 June 1689) > 3. Abigael: Baptism Record: The Reformed Dutch Church of New York, page > 208: Abigael, 11 May 1692. Parents: Jeremias KENNIP, Anna WOOD. Sponsors: > Teunis de KEY, Helena van BRUG > 4. Marytje: Baptism Record of the Tappan Reformed Church, Tappan, Rockland > County, NY (1694-1899): 11 April 1695: Marytje. Parents: Jeremy CENNIFF, > Anna WOELFFS; Sponsors: Cozyn HARINGH, Maria FOERS. > 5. Unknown KENNIF - a male child (1702 Census) > 6. William: Baptism Record of the Tappan Reformed Church, Tappan, Rockland > County, NY (1694-1899): 14 January 1702: William. Parents: Jeremia > CENNIFF, Annitje CENNIFF; Sponsors: William JUWELL. > > No Annatje, b. abt 1670, married Abraham Van AMBURGH and no Elizabeth, b. > abt 1675, married William BENNETT. Of course these two would have been > married and having children before this census, > > but the BIG question is: > Are they the daughters of Jeremiah 2, as Mackenzie records, or are they > HIS SISTERS, and the daughters of Jeremiah 1??? > > Would Jeremiah 2 have a much older family followed years later by six more > children? > > Would Jeremiah 2 give two of his daughters the same first name when > neither died young?? > > Mackenzie records Elizabeth as a daughter of Jeremiah 2, however the > baptism of two of her sons at the approximate same time as her father is > questionable, though possible. It would be more plausible that she is the > sister of Jeremiah 2. > > Mackenzie records Anna, married Abraham Van AMBURGH, as a daughter of > Jeremiah 2, however the 1702 census of Orange County, NY records: Jeremiah > CENNIF and Anna, his wife, had three male children and three female > children. All female children have been accounted for, through baptism > records, and two Annas would have been family members if the Mackenzie > information was also considered. So were Elizabeth and Anna older > siblings, already married and having children, or were they actually the > sisters of Jeremiah, not his daughters? > > Did Annatje have her aunty Esther, daughter of Jeremiah 1, as a sponsor > for her daughter Esther's baptism, or was sponsor Esther actually > Annatje's sister?? > > With the invaluable help of Pam SEARS, we suggest the following: > > 1. Jeremiah KENNIFF or AKENIFsettled in Westchester before 1657, and had > the following children: > > i Jeremiah Kenniff, born Abt. 1660; married Annatje Woelfse Abt. 1685. > > ii Annatje Kenniff, born Abt. 1670; married Abraham Van Amburgh. Abt 1694 > > iii. Esther Kenniff, born Abt. 1672; married Nathan Bally Abt. 1695. > > iv. Elizabeth Kenniff, born Abt. 1675; married Willem Bennett Abt. 1702. > > Jeremiah 2, married Anna WOOD/ WOULFES had the following children: > (baptismsa as recorded above:) > 1. Annekan b abt 1686 > 2. Jeremiah, b. abt 1689 > 3. Abigael, b. abt 1692 > 4. Marytje, b. abt. 1695 > 5. Unknown KENNIF (male child) > 6. William, b. abt 1701. > > Annatje KENNIFF, b. abt 1670, married Abraham Van AMBURGH abt 1694, had > the following children: > i Hendrick, b. abt 1695 > ii Isaac, b. abt. 1697 > iii Annatje, b. abt 1700 > iv Elizabeth > v Esther b. abt. 1707 > vi Sarah b. abt. 1709 > vii Jeremiah, b. abt. 1712 > viii Rachel, b.abt. 1714 > > Apologies for not putting in all the baptism details for the last > mentioned family - this email is getting too long!! > > Would anyone like to comment, correct or add to our findings please? All > comments and suggestions are very welcome! > > Many thanks, especially to Pam > > Marg Smith > Mardi, NSW > Australia (where its almost midnight!!) > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brother of Joseph Morgan, son of Elijah Morgan, grandson of Caleb Morgan - Westchester NY Will of David Morgan File No. 6311 1816 In the name of God amen. I David Morgan late of the Town Clinton, county of Dutchess and State of New York. Being weak in body but sound in mind believing that my time in this world is almost spent. I do make and publish this my Last Will and testament in the manner and form following. That is to say I do order that all my household and personal property shall be sold to the best aide? Advantage excepting that I do give and bequeath the choice of two beds with all the bedding and all my silver spoons to my beloved wife Cecilia Morgan. I do order that all my debts shall be collected from the money thus as well as from the monies arising from the sale of my personal property shall be appropriated to the payment of all my honest debts and my funeral charges. I do further order and demand All my real property sold at such a time as may be judged proper best to promote the interest of my family should the monies arising from my personal property not discharge my debts and funeral charges then I so direct that money should be taken up and my real estate shall be given to secure the payment of the same if this security should be deemed necessary. I do give and bequeath to my Father-in-law Peter Lewis my watch as a testimony of my esteem to him together with all my wearing apparel.. I do direct that as soon as all my property shall be sold , it shall be put out to use and secured by Mortgage on landed property to remain or so to be continued until my Daughter Catherine may marry. I do further more direct that all the interest arising from my Estate shall be for the use and benefit of my wife Cecilia and my daughter Catherine and the (can’t read Polnathin) of said child. But should my wife marry then she shall have one third of the interest arising from the money at use for as long she may live but the interest remaining that is to say the two thirds shall be for the use support and benefit of my child Catherine. Should my child Catherine die before her mother Cecilia and without issue then all the interest of the money at use shall be for the benefit of the said Cecilia or should Cecilia die before Catherine my daughter then said Catherine shall Heir the whole income arising from the afforsaid property. But should Catherine die without issue, likewise after the death of said Cecilia the property (can’t read) to my Father-in-law Peter Lewis in whom I have the utmost confidence and my Brother Joseph Morgan as my executors(?) other with my wife Cecilia executrix to this my last will and Testament hereby making all former wills viod In witness whereof I hereunto sign my hand and seal on this the fourth day of June in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Sixteen (Signature) David Morgan Signed Sealed and declared by the witness David Morgan to be his last will and Testament in the presence of us who at his request and in his presence inscribed our names as witnesses of the same (Signatures) Whiting Adams Abraham Copeman? Jonah Levey Abraham Copeman who on oath declared that he did see David Morgan sign and seal the annexed written instrument, purporting to be the WILL of the said David Morgan bearing date the fourth day of June one thousand eight hundred and sixteen and heard him publish and declare the same as and for his last WILL and TESTAMENT, That at the time thereof, he the said David Morgan was of sound disposing mind and memory, to the best of the knowledge and belief of him the defronent And that Whiting Adams, Jonah Levey and this defronent severally subscribed the WILL as witnesses thereto in the Testator’s presence, (Signature) Derrick B. Storkholer? Dutchess County, ss. Be it also remembered, That on the twenty fifth day of July one thousand eight hundred and sixteen Peter Lewis, Joseph Morgan & Cecilia Morgan The Executors & executrix Of the annexed written Will of David Morgan Likewise appeared before me the said Derrick B Storkholer and were duly sworn to the true execution and performance of the said Will by them taking the oath of Executors as by law appointed. Derrick B. Storkholer, Surragate Thanks, Carol L. Heap

This is from the Will Packet of Joseph, his acticule will is missing but the other papers include many names, I would be happy to send the rest if asked. Will of Joseph Morgan, dec’d. No. 5190 Very fragile paper, crumbling: In the matter of proving the last Will and Testament of – Joseph Morgan deceased To the Surrogate of Dutchess County: The Petition of Nancy Morgan sole Executor named in the last will and testament of Joseph Morgan deceased, Respectfully represents, that the said testa died on or about the 16 day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-one in the City of Poughkeepsie in the County of Dutchess, having first duly made a last will and testament relating to personal estate in and by which, he appointed your petitioner Nancy Morgan Executrix thereto. That at, or immediately previous to his death, said testor was an inhabitant of the County of Dutchess, or has left some goods, credits, chattels, estate or effects which at the time of his death were or have since come within said County of Dutchess, by reason of which, as your petitioner, has been informed and believe the aid Surrogate of said County of Dutchess has the sole and exclusive power to take the proof of the said last will and testament. That the said testor has left Nancy Morgan his Widow, Reuben Morgan a son, Nancy Harrison wife of CB Harrison all residing City of Poughkeepsie, Mary Cole residing Jersey City – Morris Co. State of New Jersey and Elizabeth Frear residing Washington Dutchess County daughters an children of His surviving, and has left no other heirs or legal representatives entitled to any interest in his estate (unless by said will) to the knowledge and belief of your petitioner And your petitioner Being desirous that the said last will and testament should be duly Proved and established as a will of personal estate Your petitioner therefore pray that such proceedings may be had as are by law required to enable all the parties in interest to appear before this Court at such time and place as this Court may appoint, to oppose or support, as they may see fit, the probate of said last will and testament. And your petitioner will ever pray, &c. Dated this day of 186 (Signature) Nancy Morgan Dutchess County, ss: I Nancy Morgan The above petitioner being duly sworn say that the matters set forth in the preceding Petition are true to the best of her knowledge, information and belief. This day of 186 before me. (Signature) Nancy Morgan (Signature) Peter Dorland, surrogate Thanks, Carol L. Heap

Thank you for answering my query Carol. It seems that our SCHUTZ and SCHULZ families do not match up, other than living in the same areas of the Bronx. My husband has alot of relatives buried in Woodlawn Cemetery, that's where Catherina/Catherine SCHUTZ HUDSON is buried. She wasn't buried with her husband Peter HUDSON, who was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Queens. Alot of times, I have noticed that people didn't cross their t's and consequently alot of times the name looks like SCHULZ on different documents which makes it difficult to research. Thanks again. Jeanne C. Appel