Hi Gail, I think you were looking for this ED finder tool for US CENSUS 1880-1940.>>> http://stevemorse.org/census/unified.html?year=1910 It works in all US states. Before you search it for an ED, you need to know the names of both cross streets and the back street of your exact address. Just run the mailing address through a Google map, such as: 1156 Third Ave., NY, NY Then, take note of the street names that create the block. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

While searching for a 1926 NYC Marriage License at the NYC Municipal Archives last week, the luck of the Irish was with me. The three-page license was accompanied by the groom's news-making divorce papers, from his first marriage! No hint of this was visible in the license microfiche. Since the Archives M.O. is that staff prints all documents, then hands them to researchers on the way out the door, I discovered these divorce papers while riding the train home. BTW it appears that marriage #2 was a Catholic marriage. Another instance of new documents creating new questions. New York State seals divorce records for 100 years, to the day. Sure, you can check dates of marital actions in the county clerk's office, but it's nothing like the spicy details. Genealogy...ya gotta love it! Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Saturday, July 30, 2016 "Finding the Fallen:" U.S.A. Military Headstone Photography Day https://blog.eogn.com/2016/06/06/join-the-nationwide-service-project-finding-the-fallen/#comment-245367 SIGNUP>>>https://billiongraves.com/finding-the-fallen A download app will be sent to you for use at the cemetery. QUESTIONS>>>eagle@billiongraves.com Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

If you need a Catholic parish in the Archdiocese of New York, this is a good place to start.>>> http://www.archny.org/parishfinder The Archdiocese includes the NYC counties of Manhattan, Bronx, & Staten Island, as well as NYS counties [east of Hudson River] Westchester, Putnam and [west of Hudson River] Rockland, Orange, Sullivan and Ulster. The Archdiocese provided this search link after parishes closed or merged. It's not a definitive tool for locating ancestral parishes because it uses a current map. If you're unfamiliar with [especially] NYC, it may be more confusing. The way around it is to cross reference parishes with other sources. Consider the family's street address*, culture/language, and approximate year. For MANHATTAN parishes, you might cross reference using Charles Sullivan's work.>>> 1) ZIP CODE List of Catholic Parishes: http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Worship/Manh.Catholic.zip.html 2) DATE ESTABLISHED List of Catholic Parishes: http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Worship/Manh.Catholic.date.html 3) ALPH List of Catholic Parishes: http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Worship/Manh.Catholic.name.html In August 2015, parishes closed or merged. This is significant so your know where old records repose. l) FULL MERGER LIST---Church on left usurps church on right. Right churches no longer have Mass or sacraments. https://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/parish_list_2_final_-_one_church_103114_2.pdf 2) PARTIAL MERGER LIST---Both churches celebrate Mass and sacraments. It sounds like a forewarning of potential closures to me. https://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/parish_list_1_final_-_both_churches_103114_2.pdf I recommend requesting sacramental look ups in writing, using simple language. Parishes that were once Irish, Italian or German, may now be Spanish, Chinese or Algerian. English may be the second language of office staff. I hope that this makes your search easier. Barb * It's handy to create a chrono list of family addresses, as you discover them..

Are you growing frustrated while navigating NYC Marriage Licenses Indexes 1908-1929 online?* https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex Here are some observations to alleviate your bleary-eyed woes. 1) GIVEN: Every year for every county is not available...yet. [1930 - 1951 is promised.] 2) Open above link. See "years" column on the right? Click on a year to view indexes exist. 3) A separate Bronx index begins in 1914. Prior to that, search Manhattan. 4) 1936 is fully missing from this list, so far. 5) Some Staten Island indexes cover two years. 6) Once in an index, be cognizant of the months you're searching in the left vertical column. 7) Use your widest screen shot. Grooms on left; brides on right. **8) When you score a hit, record the YEAR, COUNTY, VOLUME #, LICENSE #, DATE, NAME. Yes, you can cross reference each hit by searching for the partner next. Yes, marriage license # and date should match your bride and groom. 9) Shortcut: Search for the most unusual surname first. 10) The licensing county will be the same as the marriage county. 11) Unsure of the location? Search 1st Staten Island, 4th Brooklyn, 5th Manhattan. Smallest first. 12) Buddy up! Ask a genie friend to search one of yours, for one of theirs. [We did this with Emigrant Savings Bank!] You have some search tips for these licenses? Please post them to all. * A microfilm version of "marriage license" indexes exists at NYC Muni Archives. Same format, different channel. ** With my more unusual surnames, I do not spend time cross referencing. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com @BAMS, 7-24-2016= Do not forward or repost w/o my consent. .

NYC, Brooklyn and Westchester residents are noted in the recently released Marriage Notices 1797-1860 of TIGS. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/MarriageNotices-TroyNewspapers/Introduction-Index.htm The Troy Irish Genealogy Society (TIGS) was founded by a small group of people, including our Pat Connors from NY-Irish. Please note: Troy as a major hub that sits on Albany County's eastern border, and the MA/VT western border, straight up the Hudson River from NYC. It offered lush farmland to emigrant Irish and Germans. Travel by boat preceded the network of NY Central RR trains, so Troy & Albany were merely a hop away from NYC. NYC and Westchester researchers don't want to overlook TIGS transcription projects. Here's their most recent list. >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/ProjectsPage.htm Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Back in high school, when students were distracted by weekend plans, football games, and the who's smoochin' who scenarios, teachers had a hard time holding our attention. But, whenever Mr. Martin [Latin 1-4] began with, "A word to the wise..." I perked up and took note. So, here's "a word to the wise" about Brooklyn research, specifically vitals = BMDs = Births, Marriages, Deaths. IGG [Italilan] and GGG [German] genealogical volunteers co-transcribed handwritten BMD records into the wonderful indexes that we access free online today. Sure, an occasional person falls through the gaps, hopefully not the subway gaps the MTA PA system reminds us about. The number of folks who told me they can't track ancestors in Brooklyn is immeasurable. So, after you try a standard search, without results, just go to the IGG section (top left drop-down) titled "Early Kings and Queens records." These "Early" Kings/Brooklyn/Queens BMDs are on *separate films* at the NYC Municipal Archives. By "separate" I mean these films are not the same films that a standard search will not bring forth, NOT via IGG or GGG or Stevemorse.org, no way, no how. So, if your're diving into Brooklyn BMDs, and keep surfacing empty-handed, try these early links. DEATHS: http://italiangen.org/records-search/deaths_early_town.php BIRTHS: http://italiangen.org/records-search/births_early_town.php MARRIAGES: http://italiangen.org/records-search/marriages_early_town.php Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

http://sampubco.blogspot.com/2016/07/new-york-heirs-and-slaves-and-original.html brief description of what had happened to the original will books of New York County

In 1870 the New York City Enumeration was done twice. I know of no other place where this was done. However, there are generally two incomplete sets of all the Censuses up to the early 1900s at least. One set is the original copy made at the county level, and retained by the county. The FHL filmed a good number of the ones that survived. The other copy, and this is where a lot of errors crept in, was the copy that was made to send to the (correct me if I'm wrong here) state who processed them to the Federal Census Bureau. It is this copy whre we find entire pages missing, names messed up (worse than the original taker). It used to be that both FHL and Heritage Quest had a number of originals filmed and online, and Ancestry had the Federal copies. Now all sites point to Ancestry's copy. This happened more than a year ago, and I'm sure I complained about it here, and in other lists. ;) The reason I say the original set is incomplete is because not every county has kept their original copy. The FHL, may have filed both copies in some cases. I've never explored that possibility. I do know they, or someone else filmed a number of the surviving originals, because I've used them, and compared the originals from the copies. I am not the first person to do this. This used to be widely know fact among genealogists. But time changes everything. ;) Brian > I never heard of any census being done twice either. The census bureau > doesn't mention it in relation to the 1870 census on their website. > > What I DO KNOW was that there were several copies of each census > transcribed: the field copy, the state copy and the federal copy. Perhaps > the different "censuses" were actually 2 different transcriptions. > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Marie Neuman Gray via < > nywestch@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> I wasn't aware that the 1870 census was taken twice. Was this only for >> New >> York state? >> >> >> >> I am researching Peter Leier. He is on the 1870 census in Texas, but >> that >> census taker didn't get it right. >> >> >> >> Peter Leier enlisted in the U.S. army in New York City in January of >> 1871. >> Leier didn't show up in Texas at Fort Griffin until the spring of 1871. >> When the census taker got around to Shackelford County (Texas), he was >> most >> likely given a copy of those present at the fort on that day in 1871, >> thus >> putting Leier down (and others) as present in 1870. >> >> >> >> I suspect Peter Leier was in New York or New Jersey at the time the >> census >> was supposed to have been taken. Finding a second 1870 census for Peter >> Leier would help with one of his "brick walls". >> >> >> >> Marie Neuman Gray >> >> Waller County, Texas >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list >> over the years. Visit >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list > over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Posted by NYPL>>> "Guide to Searching the Census by New York City Address" https://www.nypl.org/sites/default/files/blog_attachments/searching-the-census_2.pdf Barb MizscarlettNY@aol.com

It's a NYC thing. Barb --------------------------- THE 1870 FEDERAL CENSUS FOR NEW YORK CITY. by Charles Sullivan, 13 July 2001 =============================================================== "Note: In 1870, New York City consisted ONLY of New York County, comprised of Manhattan Island and several smaller islands in the East River and NY Harbor, i.e., Blackwell's Island (now Roosevelt Island), Governor's Island, Ellis Island, Bedloe's Island (now Liberty Island), and Ward's Island. "In 1870 (as in recent years), the large cities complained they were undercounted in the census. The hue and cry became great enough that the Census Bureau caved in and undertook a recount for some cities, NY City included. This recount is known as the ***1870 2nd Enumeration.*** (The recount was NOT conducted in the other four counties which today are included in NY City, i.e., Kings, Queens, Richmond, and Bronx.) "The original census (or 1st Enumeration) was conducted beginning 1 June 1870. The 2nd Enumeration was conducted about 6 months later, in the December-January time frame. "Note: The Election Districts were redistricted following the 1st Enumeration so will usually be different for the 2nd Enumeration although the Wards will be the same. However street addresses were recorded for the first time in the 2nd Enumeration, so given an address, it's usually not too difficult to scroll down the microfilm for the Ward and zero in on the right page." Con't>>>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyirish/Census%20Research.html -----Original Message----- From: Krys Boccumini via kkbocc@gmail.com I never heard of any census being done twice either. The census bureau doesn't mention it in relation to the 1870 census on their website. What I DO KNOW was that there were several copies of each census transcribed: the field copy, the state copy and the federal copy. Perhaps the different "censuses" were actually 2 different transcriptions. ----------- mneuman@consolidated.net, I wasn't aware that the 1870 census was taken twice. Was this only for New York state? I am researching Peter Leier. He is on the 1870 census in Texas, but that census taker didn't get it right. Peter Leier enlisted in the U.S. army in New York City in January of 1871. > Leier didn't show up in Texas at Fort Griffin until the spring of 1871. > When the census taker got around to Shackelford County (Texas), he was most > likely given a copy of those present at the fort on that day in 1871, thus > putting Leier down (and others) as present in 1870. Marie Neuman Gray Waller County, Texas

I never heard of any census being done twice either. The census bureau doesn't mention it in relation to the 1870 census on their website. What I DO KNOW was that there were several copies of each census transcribed: the field copy, the state copy and the federal copy. Perhaps the different "censuses" were actually 2 different transcriptions. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Marie Neuman Gray via < nywestch@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I wasn't aware that the 1870 census was taken twice. Was this only for New > York state? > > > > I am researching Peter Leier. He is on the 1870 census in Texas, but that > census taker didn't get it right. > > > > Peter Leier enlisted in the U.S. army in New York City in January of 1871. > Leier didn't show up in Texas at Fort Griffin until the spring of 1871. > When the census taker got around to Shackelford County (Texas), he was most > likely given a copy of those present at the fort on that day in 1871, thus > putting Leier down (and others) as present in 1870. > > > > I suspect Peter Leier was in New York or New Jersey at the time the census > was supposed to have been taken. Finding a second 1870 census for Peter > Leier would help with one of his "brick walls". > > > > Marie Neuman Gray > > Waller County, Texas > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list > over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wasn't aware that the 1870 census was taken twice. Was this only for New York state? I am researching Peter Leier. He is on the 1870 census in Texas, but that census taker didn't get it right. Peter Leier enlisted in the U.S. army in New York City in January of 1871. Leier didn't show up in Texas at Fort Griffin until the spring of 1871. When the census taker got around to Shackelford County (Texas), he was most likely given a copy of those present at the fort on that day in 1871, thus putting Leier down (and others) as present in 1870. I suspect Peter Leier was in New York or New Jersey at the time the census was supposed to have been taken. Finding a second 1870 census for Peter Leier would help with one of his "brick walls". Marie Neuman Gray Waller County, Texas

USGEN WEB transcribed this guide to Westchester County institutions in the 1930 census. Once you find the town you want, click on the film number to the left. The next page will direct you to the correct census page for the institution that you seek. http://www.us-census.org/states/newyork/teams/westchester1930.htm Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

My daughter was on her way back to FLA and crossed that bridge about 2 hours earlier. -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:11 PM To: brian@amason.net ; nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYWESTCH] Tappan Zee Bridge The original was constructed across the Hudson River in 1955 from Tarrytown to Nyack. Major construction has been going on for the new bridge's construction. News now: Crane collapsed across all lanes of traffic. No injuries. Major roadways all jammed up as commuters must use Bear Mountain Bridge or George Washington Bridge. Checking for structural damage now. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found elements of both on Ancestry.com. I found the early enumeration of Michael Hannigan in Westchester County and then the later enumeration of Micheal Hannigan in Manhattan on Ancestry.com. John On Tuesday 7 19 2016 3:42 PM, mizscarlettny via wrote: > Most of you probably recall that the 1870 US Census was performed twice that year. > > > In the past we used Ancestry for the earlier one and LDS for the latter one. > > > I can't locate the second one online. Ancestry and LDS have the same version now. > > > Anyone know how I can search both? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Barb > > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The original was constructed across the Hudson River in 1955 from Tarrytown to Nyack. Major construction has been going on for the new bridge's construction. News now: Crane collapsed across all lanes of traffic. No injuries. Major roadways all jammed up as commuters must use Bear Mountain Bridge or George Washington Bridge. Checking for structural damage now. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Thanks for the response, Brian. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian J Densmore via <nywestch@rootsweb.com> To: nywestch <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2016 3:55 pm Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 1870 US Census taken twice It's been that way for a long time now. > Most of you probably recall that the 1870 US Census was performed twice > that year. > > > In the past we used Ancestry for the earlier one and LDS for the latter > one. > > > I can't locate the second one online. Ancestry and LDS have the same > version now. > > > Anyone know how I can search both? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Barb > > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list > over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of you probably recall that the 1870 US Census was performed twice that year. In the past we used Ancestry for the earlier one and LDS for the latter one. I can't locate the second one online. Ancestry and LDS have the same version now. Anyone know how I can search both? Thanks in advance, Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

It's been that way for a long time now. > Most of you probably recall that the 1870 US Census was performed twice > that year. > > > In the past we used Ancestry for the earlier one and LDS for the latter > one. > > > I can't locate the second one online. Ancestry and LDS have the same > version now. > > > Anyone know how I can search both? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Barb > > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list > over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >