Sheila Langan wrote about the history of the hospital on Ellis Island that was operational from 1901 - 1924 where some 3500 died and some 350 babies were born. Be sure to scan down to view Langan's photographs. https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/a-look-inside-ellis-island-s-abandoned-hospital-complex-photos-video?utm_campaign=Best+of+IrishCentral+-+2017-07-02&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Mailjet Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Love this site, in under 30 second I got clues that I have been searching for years, I now only have to check about 10 names for GGF that I only had first and middle initial for previously. > On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:00 AM, nywestch-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Send NYWESTCH mailing list submissions to > nywestch@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/nywestch > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nywestch-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nywestch-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NYWESTCH digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FINDING: "Famine" era SIBLINGS & PARENTS in NY > (mizscarlettny@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:41:15 -0400 > From: mizscarlettny@aol.com > To: NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com, nywestch@rootsweb.com, > njbergen@rootsweb.com, NYRICHMO@rootsweb.com > Cc: <nysuffol@rootsweb.com>, <NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com>, > <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NYWESTCH] FINDING: "Famine" era SIBLINGS & PARENTS in NY > Message-ID: <15cf9e0c1b5-1177-94a4@webprd-a57.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Depending upon the native country, and era, proving sibling relationships for immigrants can be tr?s difficile in early New York. > Family searchers cross fingers, toes, and shoe strings hoping to find an Obituary or Will that names sibs, and parents. Although > Death Certificates indicate parents' names, they may be erroneous, depending upon who the informant was then. > > *** Please Note: Too many researchers assume that parents of famine-era Irish immigrants did not come to NY. > > Enter Steve Morse...how do I love ya, let me count the ways...Your search engine SteveMorse.org is the best! > And, a surname search is as easy as entering just two letters with the radio button "Starts with." And, Death > searches include a pre-calculated year of birth in the final column. Easy! > > Here's how I've found leads to *potential* siblings, and parents, of famine-era Irish immigrants. > I'll use the surname HAMILL / HAMMILL / [don't forget surname variants] as my example. > > GO TO>>>SteveMorse.org and in the top left, gray box, click on "Vital Records," then clicked on > "New York City Deaths (1862 - 1948) = http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeath.html > > ENTER ONLY surname HAMILL...no year or county. Skip down to the section labeled > "Year of Birth is between [fill in year] AND [fill in year]" > I ran it from 1801 - 1855 so it would included "famine" era births. > > CLICK ON the final heading "Born" to rearrange them in chronological order; print for future use. > > HAMILL spelling, Deaths: > http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeathresults.html?last=Hamill*&first=&kind=wildcard&county=&year1=&year2=&age1=&age2=&unit1=4&unit2=4&birth1=1801&birth2=1855&month=&day=&year=&host=italiangen.org > > > > HAMMILL spelling, Deaths: > http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeathresults.html?last=Hammill*&first=&kind=wildcard&county=&year1=&year2=&age1=&age2=&unit1=4&unit2=4&birth1=1801&birth2=1855&month=&day=&year=&host=italiangen.org > > SIBLINGS: Note those who are +/- 15 years of your ancestor's birth. Results are clues. You need to cross reference one at a time, > with Directories (shared addresses), Census, and Ships Manifests as well as Wills and Obituaries. > > PARENTS: Note those who are 18 or more earlier than your ancestor's birth. Use FamilySearch.org to search births by entering > parents' names with your ancestor's name. > > > Barb in NY > > @ 6-30-17 BAMS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the NYWESTCH list administrator, send an email to > NYWESTCH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYWESTCH mailing list, send an email to NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NYWESTCH Digest, Vol 12, Issue 54 > ****************************************

Depending upon the native country, and era, proving sibling relationships for immigrants can be très difficile in early New York. Family searchers cross fingers, toes, and shoe strings hoping to find an Obituary or Will that names sibs, and parents. Although Death Certificates indicate parents' names, they may be erroneous, depending upon who the informant was then. *** Please Note: Too many researchers assume that parents of famine-era Irish immigrants did not come to NY. Enter Steve Morse...how do I love ya, let me count the ways...Your search engine SteveMorse.org is the best! And, a surname search is as easy as entering just two letters with the radio button "Starts with." And, Death searches include a pre-calculated year of birth in the final column. Easy! Here's how I've found leads to *potential* siblings, and parents, of famine-era Irish immigrants. I'll use the surname HAMILL / HAMMILL / [don't forget surname variants] as my example. GO TO>>>SteveMorse.org and in the top left, gray box, click on "Vital Records," then clicked on "New York City Deaths (1862 - 1948) = http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeath.html ENTER ONLY surname HAMILL...no year or county. Skip down to the section labeled "Year of Birth is between [fill in year] AND [fill in year]" I ran it from 1801 - 1855 so it would included "famine" era births. CLICK ON the final heading "Born" to rearrange them in chronological order; print for future use. HAMILL spelling, Deaths: http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeathresults.html?last=Hamill*&first=&kind=wildcard&county=&year1=&year2=&age1=&age2=&unit1=4&unit2=4&birth1=1801&birth2=1855&month=&day=&year=&host=italiangen.org HAMMILL spelling, Deaths: http://stevemorse.org/vital/nydeathresults.html?last=Hammill*&first=&kind=wildcard&county=&year1=&year2=&age1=&age2=&unit1=4&unit2=4&birth1=1801&birth2=1855&month=&day=&year=&host=italiangen.org SIBLINGS: Note those who are +/- 15 years of your ancestor's birth. Results are clues. You need to cross reference one at a time, with Directories (shared addresses), Census, and Ships Manifests as well as Wills and Obituaries. PARENTS: Note those who are 18 or more earlier than your ancestor's birth. Use FamilySearch.org to search births by entering parents' names with your ancestor's name. Barb in NY @ 6-30-17 BAMS

Will the woman who's researching the LITTEL surname in early Manhattan and Westchester Counties, please contact me? I found some new leads to your ancestors. Thanks, Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com “There is more love in this city than there are street corners.” NYPD Detective, Angel of Peace, Steven McDonald (1957-2017)

Dr. Nieberg worked with and for families of Westchester County police officers, before moving to Rhode Island. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& "Dr. Herbert Nieburg of Westerly, R.I., passed away January 2nd at home, at the age of 70. Beloved husband of Lise Mayers-Nieburg and loving uncle to Ryan Nieburg, Joshua Rosenburg, Samuel Rosenburg, Daniel Rosenburg, Melissa Tackling and Seth Tackling. "Herb was a vibrant individual who believed in helping others and giving back to the community. This carried through to his passion for his work as a dedicated psychologist and college professor. A graveside service will be held on Thursday, January 5th at Old Montefiore Cemetery, 121-83 Springfield Blvd., Queens, N.Y. at 11 a.m. "A celebration of his life will be held in Westerly at a future date. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to the American Heart Association , the American Diabetes Association or Stand Up for Animals." Source: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thewesterlysun/obituary.aspx?pid=183296018 -------------------------------------- Herbert A. Nieburg, Ph.D., is a psychotherapist specializing in grief therapy at Four Winds Hospital in Katonah, New York, as well as in the instruction of veterinary professionals in the psychological impact of pet death. Barb

Now here's' a festival planned to capture NYC's multi-ethnicity. Sunday, June 18th; 12 - 4pm Museum at Eldridge Street 12 Eldridge Street New York, NY 10002 http://www.eldridgestreet.org/event/egg-rolls-egg-creams-and-empanadas-festival/ Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Here's a link to a postcard collection via the Ossining Public Library. http://postcards.burtonandcompanyllc.com/ Enjoy! Barb “There is more love in this city than there are street corners.” NYPD Detective, Angel of Peace, Steven McDonald (1957-2017)

Thanks for this, Brian. My 2nd cuz is over there now aiming for it based upon our shared g-grands. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Brian J Densmore <brian@amason.net> > Irish citizenship was also allowed for great grandchildren of native >Irish citizens to before the European Union required Ireland to tighten >citizenship requirements in 1986. That was when the EU "opened their Note that you can still seek Irish citizenship based on gr-grandparents. The director can waive 2 to 5 years of the residency requirement for various reasons. You are not certain to get it, but it's still possible. But one can go and live there for 5 years, and get it. Might be easier to get the director to waive some of those years if you're actually living there. None of that would help me. My closest connection is gr-gr-grandparents. But even that could be used to try and get some of those years waived. Maybe I'll try when the house is paid off. I can work from anywhere. :D

> Irish citizenship was also allowed for great grandchildren of native > Irish citizens to before the European Union required Ireland to tighten > citizenship requirements in 1986. That was when the EU "opened their Note that you can still seek Irish citizenship based on gr-grandparents. The director can waive 2 to 5 years of the residency requirement for various reasons. You are not certain to get it, but it's still possible. But one can go and live there for 5 years, and get it. Might be easier to get the director to waive some of those years if you're actually living there. None of that would help me. My closest connection is gr-gr-grandparents. But even that could be used to try and get some of those years waived. Maybe I'll try when the house is paid off. I can work from anywhere. :D

> You see, Irish citizenship applications > require "proven" Irish heritage via a grandparent or parent. So, it is denied to > those of us descended from great-grandparents or earlier generations. This pretty standard everywhere, except in the US. You can get the US citizenship only if you parents were citizens. Grandchildren need not apply. Anyone can petition Ireland for citizenship. You just need to prove you won't be a drain on the country. You can probably buy it for $250,000 or so. Just like in the US.

The Connecticut Ancestry Society and Danbury Library present a lecture, "United States Census: Your #1 Building Block in Genealogical Research - Are you wringing every possible tidbit from this resource?," presented by Nora Galvin, CG., on Saturday, July 15, 2017, 10:30 a.m. to 12 noon, Danbury Library, 170 Main St., Danbury CT. Free and open to the public. www.connecticutancestry.org

Irish citizenship was also allowed for great grandchildren of native Irish citizens to before the European Union required Ireland to tighten citizenship requirements in 1986. That was when the EU "opened their borders" to allow any EU country citizen to travel and work anywhere within the EU. Another small down-side of this change was the standardization of passports -- no longer did Irish passports have a gold harp on a dark green color. Now it's a smaller gold harp on "EU passport red".

In 2011, the Irish government offered a "Certificate of Irish Heritage" for sale for $45. Its stated purpose was to recognize generations of Irish descendants "to give greater practical expression to the sense of Irish identity felt by many around the world." Huh? No proof of Irish heritage was required, or cross-referenced with Irish records. You just claimed it, and you got it. Many Americans realized that this was just an inconsequential imprimatur, and, an inadequate proxy for Irish citizenship. You see, Irish citizenship applications require "proven" Irish heritage via a grandparent or parent. So, it is denied to those of us descended from great-grandparents or earlier generations. Personally, it's a major faux pas that (especially) descendants of famine-era immigrants, who were forced to leave Eire, cannot become Irish citizens. The program, or scheme,* as the Irish government called it, flopped and ended on 24 August 2015 after only some 1,500 were sold. Which ironically brings us up to today. So, this useless certificate just happens to be found on an ISIS attacker in Europe recently. You can't make this stuff up! * In Ireland, the word "scheme" is used to indicate a process, or what Americans would label as a plan, not a scam Barb

First off, it's Brigid, or Brighid, not Bridget. That's Anglicized. Secondly, it WAS my ancestor's name, so I will be calling her that. ;) Further Brigid is the patron saint of County Louth, my Cunningham's origins. Brighid figures in much of Irish legend, lore, and culture. It may have been intended as a slight, but it's actually quite the reverse. Shows how stupid the people were who tried to make it mean something insulting. Regards, Brian aka Mick (yes I know where it comes from) P.S. - It's also part of my daughter's name! > Call her Biddie, Bridie, Bitty or Delia, but don't call your Irish immigrant > Bridget! That name was American disparaging code for a mindless, inept cleaning > lady.

Mine went by Bridget here in the US. So far, I have not found her records in Donegal. Relatives there have several Bridgets but they have no records of my Bridget except that they know she existed and emigrated in 1892.

Thanks very much for sharing your work, John. FYI after you read John's timeline, PLEASE CLICK on the "FREE COURSE" link at the top given by Professor Larry Sabato, PhD....... Barb “There is more love in this city than there are street corners.” NYPD Detective, Angel of Peace, Steven McDonald (1957-2017) -----Original Message----- From: John Burke <jcburke7@mac.com> I developed a website a few years ago and did a timeline for JFK’s life and influence. I hope you enjoy it.http://www.thekennedyhalfcentury.com/kennedy-timeline.php <http://www.thekennedyhalfcentury.com/kennedy-timeline.php>Best,John

Last night AMC-tv ran this infamous Godfather sequel from 1974. By habit, I clicked the "Info" button on my remote and it said this film-noir classic was set in 1917 Hell's Kitchen. No way! The plot's setting was definitely the "Little Italy" neighborhood that surrounds today's St. Patrick's Basilica aka St. Pat's "Old" Cathedral. PROOF: (1971 film-shot) Here's East 6th Street between Avenues A & B, historically dolled-up to resemble the Little Italy neighborhood where fictional Vito CORLEONE nested his young family and slid into a life of crime.>>> http://www.gvshp.org/_gvshp/pdf/FilimingThe%20GodfatheronE6thStbtwA&%20B,1971524,522,520E6thSt..jpg GODFATHER 2 on LOCATION: 108 Avenue B (corner of 7th Street), NY, NY 10009...This bar scene was shot in East Greenwich Village haunt at the original Vazac's aka The Horseshoe Bar, now called 7B due to it's address. It's a watering hole also popularized in the films "Serpico," and "REnt," as well as TV series "Sex and the City" and "Law and Order." http://rightherenyc.com/VasacHall_pic.html Barb

Call her Biddie, Bridie, Bitty or Delia, but don't call your Irish immigrant Bridget! That name was American disparaging code for a mindless, inept cleaning lady. Yet, no telling of Irish-American history is complete without acknowledging the sociological significance of our immigrant domestics for near 100 years. It's ironic really. Girls who arrived in New York harbor, without skills or training, when they couldn't legally own their own home, tapped the pulse of households of the likes of Gotham's Vanderbilts, Astors, and Winthrops. Talk about having an inside scoop. BOOK: "The Irish Bridget: Irish Immigrant Women in Domestic Service in America 1840 - 1930" by Margaret Lynch-Brennan. DOWNLOAD: http://www.ebooksdownloads.xyz/search/the-irish-bridget Barb “There is more love in this city than there are street corners.” NYPD Detective, Angel of Peace, Steven McDonald (1957-2017)

The Connecticut Ancestry Society and the Stamford History Center present a workshop, "Genealogy 101: Helping you get Started with Best Practices in Genealogy Research," led by Robert A. Locke Jr. Saturday June 3, 2017, 10:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m., at the Stamford History Center, 1508 High Ridge Road, Stamford. Free and open to the public. Bring your laptop for an interactive experience. www.connecticutancestry.org

Arthur Margro of New City, NY 92 years old, passed away peacefully on April 24th 2017. He was born on January 2nd, 1925. He was a veteran of World War II, serving in the Marine Corp. Arthur was a graduate of Notre Dame. He obtained his doctorate degree and taught in the Nanuet school district and then Ossining school district for over 30 years. He was president of the Teacher's Union, and was voted teacher of the year. He is survived by his three sisters, Antoinette Lea, Marie Quail, and Lucille Rapelye, and one brother Alfred Margro. He is also survived by his niece and goddaughter Virginia Lea, and nephews Michael and Richard Lea. Surviving also are his nieces, nephews, great nieces and great nephews, too numerous to mention. He was predeceased by six brothers. He was a friend to many and loved by all. But most of all we will all miss the Sunday tradition of his spaghetti and meatballs. Family will received friends on Thursday from 2-9pm at Higgins Funeral Home New City, NY. A Mass of Christian Burial will be held on Friday 10am at St. Augustine's Church, New City, NY followed by interment at St. Anthony's Cemetery Nanuet, NY. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to the ASPCA of Rockland. Michael J Higgins Funeral Home 321 S. Main Street New City, NY 10956 mjhigginsnewcity.com Published in the The Journal News on Apr. 26, 2017 Barb