This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mransom33 Surnames: DeRevere, Revere, DeReviere Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7301/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Isaac De Revere born July 29 1797. He was baptized in Tarrytown, NY the son of Jacob De Revere who was born at Philipsburgh, NY 29 Mar 1775. Isaac had a sister Gemime who was born 20 April 1799. Is he the same Isaac Revere who married Rachel Vantine on August 19, 1818 at the Reformed Dutch Church in New York City? Thanks Peg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gopgal55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7300.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you. I will explore this avenue. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vansicklen1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7300.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I read some 1930s death notices, those destitute people who died in New Rochelle were interred in "Potter's Field in Eastview" Here is an old message board thread that discusses that cemetery: http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7059.2.2.2/mb.ashx Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Yes, I did, but they didn't seem to have anything that recent. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Jeanne Reilly <[email protected]> To: NYWESTCH <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 3:20 pm Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 1984 Eastchester obit Have you tried http://www.fultonhistory.com/. They might have his obit. Jeanne -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:29 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [NYWESTCH] 1984 Eastchester obit > I'm trying to track down an obituary for Thomas S. Johnston, Sr., who died > in Eastchester, NY Jan. 7, 1984. I found his widow's and son's 2002 > obituaries on line on the Journal News, but nothing for Thomas Sr. Would > anyone have access to older obits for the area? > > Diane Culhane in Illinois > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list > over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried http://www.fultonhistory.com/. They might have his obit. Jeanne -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:29 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [NYWESTCH] 1984 Eastchester obit > I'm trying to track down an obituary for Thomas S. Johnston, Sr., who died > in Eastchester, NY Jan. 7, 1984. I found his widow's and son's 2002 > obituaries on line on the Journal News, but nothing for Thomas Sr. Would > anyone have access to older obits for the area? > > Diane Culhane in Illinois > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list > over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for posting this great lead, Joyce. Search request details are at the bottom, within Joyce's post. Folks, please feel free to pass on my additions. l) This address is for railroad retirees nationally from 1936 forward. 2) Usually the first three digits of RR employees' Social Security numbers are coded 700 through 729. 3) I wrote them years ago w/my ancestor's unusual surname and DOB and they kept my $27. check and reported he was not in their system, which was untrue. 4) Now, defunct "Railway Express" employees were railroad employees. A) HOMEPAGE of UNITED STATES RAILROAD RETIREMENT BOARD> https://secure.rrb.gov/ B) FURTHER DETAILS SOURCE> http://www.rrb.gov/mep/genealogy.asp "Genealogy Research" "Effective October 1, 2010, many requests for genealogical information concerning railroad workers will be handled by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) rather than the Railroad Retirement Board (RRB)...some requests will continue to be handled by the RRB. Genealogists and family historians should still initially contact the RRB with their requests. We will determine whether the RRB or NARA has the information requested. "Genealogists should note the following: "The U.S. Railroad Retirement Board administers a Federal retirement benefit program covering the nation's railroad workers...[dealing] primarily with the administration and payment of these benefits. We will provide information on deceased persons for...genealogical research...not release information on a person who is still living without the written consent of that person. "Our records are limited to individuals who worked in the rail industry after 1936. Please do not contact us with requests for records before that date. We do not have that information...Nor...have any pertinent records of persons whose rail service was performed on a casual basis and/or was of short duration...RRB's records are only on persons whose employers were covered under the Railroad Retirement Act. Employers such as streetcar, interurban, or suburban electric railways are not covered under this Act." C) WIKIPEDIA ON RR RETIREMENT BOARD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_Retirement_Board Enjoy! Barb Metro NYC Researcher ================= [email protected] writes [condensed] : > It just took me a few hours to finally reach a person that could help > with > info about how to get info on LIRR retirement/employee info...They need > all info...SS# and middle initial, DOB, especially if it is a common name... > give them will help, so give them everything you have that you feel may > help them ID the correct record. I am going to include my grandmothers info > as well, as she most likely got a retirement or death benefit from them. > > Send $27 [non-refundable SEARCH fee] check or money order to > > US RAILROAD RETIREMENT BOARD > Office of Public Affairs > 884 N. Rush St > Chicago, Illlinois, 60611 > > The phone # for the office I was finally able to reach a real live person > > was 1-877-772-5772, but all she could give me was the info I stated above > as > far as where to write. > >

I'm trying to track down an obituary for Thomas S. Johnston, Sr., who died in Eastchester, NY Jan. 7, 1984. I found his widow's and son's 2002 obituaries on line on the Journal News, but nothing for Thomas Sr. Would anyone have access to older obits for the area? Diane Culhane in Illinois

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gopgal55 Surnames: Fava, Giorno Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7300/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Where would someone have been buried who died in New Rochelle in 1932 and was destitute? Francesco Fava was an immigrant from Torano Castello, Cosenza, Calabria, Italy, who had a hard time finding work and died in a boarding house in 1932, owned by the Giorno Fmaily. His family who has been here since 1956 is looking for his place of burial. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Will Testators Indexes NY - Orange Co. Vol 40, 65-67 (1877-1878, 1898-1900) 467 records NC - Jones co. Vol A1-B1 (1778-1868) 630 records Probate Files NY - Cayuga Box 3 and 4 (1799-1882) 291 records, ongoing NY - Westchester (1814-1816) 148 records, ongoing Naturalizations IL - Alexander co Vol 1 Declarations (1921-1929) 35 records IL - Brown co Vol 1-2 Old Declarations of Intent (1857-1897) 157 records IL - Brown co Vol 1 Declaration of Intent (1911-1928) 8 records These are not the only indexes, there are more indexes for more counties than listed above. http://www.sampubco.com/index.htm W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

Several of my German speaking family during that time period utilized 2 churches in Yonkers: St. John's Episcopal and Westminster Presbyterian, Rev G.H. Cutting. They were originally Lutheran. It looks like they attended the Presbyterian church and utilized the Episcopal graveyard to bury their dead. One ancestress who spoke no English was associated with both those churches. Good luck.

Hi:      I'm trying to find the church my GGrand father was married in, his name was Otto Bierschenk and wife was Pauline 'Malla' Sieg . The year was 1885 and they were probably Lutheran. Any help with this will be greatly appreciated.                         Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX

I am looking for a Margaret Harris who married in about 1851 to 1853 I believe she lived in Westchester but the name Lyman does not follow Sent from my iPad On Sep 22, 2012, at 2:58 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: tjtjlewis > Surnames: Harris > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7299/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > is anyone researching the Harris surname in Westchester Cty? > I have in the 1865 state census from Poughkeepsie stating tthat Lyman P Harris was born in Westchester abt 1829. I have no other info. > Thanks, > Jane > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tjtjlewis Surnames: Harris Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.westchester/7299/mb.ashx Message Board Post: is anyone researching the Harris surname in Westchester Cty? I have in the 1865 state census from Poughkeepsie stating tthat Lyman P Harris was born in Westchester abt 1829. I have no other info. Thanks, Jane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Found this on Google Books. Thought it might help some of you. Jean Ann http://books.google.com/books?id=KV1IAAAAYAAJ <http://books.google.com/books?id=KV1IAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=first+ record+book+sleepy+hollow&source=bl&ots=CSHcHt89Cd&sig=HKmqRhdXmF6upbGOGHXEG wBVddc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=txVeUKylLYeD0QHnqYCQDA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=firs t%20record%20book%20sleepy%20hollow&f=false> &printsec=frontcover&dq=first+record+book+sleepy+hollow&source=bl&ots=CSHcHt 89Cd&sig=HKmqRhdXmF6upbGOGHXEGwBVddc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=txVeUKylLYeD0QHnqYCQDA&ve d=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=first%20record%20book%20sleepy%20hollow&f=false

Brian. Thanks. Maybe I can find out some more about him. Philip L. Hayes http://www.hayesfamily.us Monroe, CT USA "Genealogy is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living." Researching: CT: Yerks, Condos, Smith NY: Tierney, Lewis, Beattie, Yerks, Hone and Hanley NH: Sheehan, Hayes, Kelty IA: Smith Wales: Lewis Scotland: Beattie Ireland: Hayes. Roach (Roche), Sheehan, Tierney, Kelty and Hanley On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Brian J Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > Phil, > > On the matter of Hermon Yerks being 12-16 during the time he wished to > serve in the RW at West Point, one of my ancestors did likewise, Jonathon > Youmans. He however applied for and withdrew his application for a > pension, but in that application is verification by some of his comrades. > He didn't see any frontline action, or fight in any battles but did serve > at West Point. One of those witnesses was a local politician, a judge > Hogenkamp, IIRC. > > So it's totally feasible, he served. Whether the DAR/SAR accepts that kind > of service, I don't know. I have many routes to joining, and for me at > least it's simply a matter of linking back to one already in those lists. > > Brian > > On Thu, September 20, 2012 7:51 am, Judy wrote: >> I just read through this string and may I add~ >> >> There are many patriots who are not listed with the DAR or SAR. My Henry >> Depew, for instance. My problem being the lack of DAR acceptable records >> for >> his son and grandson. Why wasn't he added years ago when the requirements >> were less restrictive? No one bothered, those in my family who were from >> his >> son, Abraham's line, went in on Abraham. Henry was ignored. >> >> I spend many hours on fold3. A simple search for a person may not turn up >> as much information as you would like, it could be the person is there >> somewhere but his name has not been annotated to show up in a search. >> >> I have found men who died, no pension, only a handful of Service records >> mentions and nothing else to show they ever existed. Did they have >> families, possibly, for some reason they did not need or knew they could >> to apply >> for a pension. Who knows. I have found interesting information on men who >> did live in affidavits on other's pension applications, including my >> Henry. >> >> There are gems in remote folders in Treasury Reports, in Muster Rolls, >> Quartermaster Records, Hospital records, Misc. folders and so on. You >> can't >> leave any stone unturned on fold3, there are many gems just waiting to be >> discovered. >> >> Thankfully, you can now search using soundex and such where before we >> needed the correct spelling or needed to be very creative in our spelling. >> >> I am pretty sure that there is an organization in Canada of descendants of >> people who went to Canada as Loyalists. I seem to recall seeing it when I >> had an Ancestry subscription years ago that included the Canadian >> records. >> >> Judy >> >> >> In a message dated 9/20/2012 12:44:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Phil, Do you have the information on, or are you related to, Andrew, >> Moses >> and Nicholas Yerks of Orange County, NY? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Philip L Hayes >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in >> the >> Revolutionary War >> >> LOL... Did you see "Who Do You Think you Are?" last week? Rob Lowe found >> himself in that exact position. >> >> Thanks for feedback. >> >> BTW... Jean Ann from this list found some Revolutionary War Rolls on >> Fold3 >> that indicate a Hermon Yerks served in and around West Point in 1779. >> He >> could be one of the relatives I am looking for, but I can find NO other >> mention of him anywhere regarding the Revolution. No pension records... >> nothing. There is a Harmon Yerks who served in PA, but I am pretty sure >> it >> is a different person. He shows up in NO DAR applications. Of course, >> if >> it is from my wife's line, it would make sense. Some of the children of >> Hermon were VERY poor. That lasted for at least two generations. They >> probably had little interest in that organization when they has little >> money. It might also make sense because the Hermon Yerks in my wife's >> tree >> would be between the ages of 12 and 16 during the time period of the >> Muster >> Rolls. Maybe he ran up to West Point as a kid to try to join but was >> never >> recognized for pension purposes. >> >> Phil > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years. Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your thoughts Julie. I will continue my quest! Philip L. Hayes http://www.hayesfamily.us Monroe, CT USA "Genealogy is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living." Researching: CT: Yerks, Condos, Smith NY: Tierney, Lewis, Beattie, Yerks, Hone and Hanley NH: Sheehan, Hayes, Kelty IA: Smith Wales: Lewis Scotland: Beattie Ireland: Hayes. Roach (Roche), Sheehan, Tierney, Kelty and Hanley On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:51 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I just read through this string and may I add~ > > There are many patriots who are not listed with the DAR or SAR. My Henry > Depew, for instance. My problem being the lack of DAR acceptable records for > his son and grandson. Why wasn't he added years ago when the requirements > were less restrictive? No one bothered, those in my family who were from his > son, Abraham's line, went in on Abraham. Henry was ignored. > > I spend many hours on fold3. A simple search for a person may not turn up > as much information as you would like, it could be the person is there > somewhere but his name has not been annotated to show up in a search. > > I have found men who died, no pension, only a handful of Service records > mentions and nothing else to show they ever existed. Did they have > families, possibly, for some reason they did not need or knew they could to apply > for a pension. Who knows. I have found interesting information on men who > did live in affidavits on other's pension applications, including my Henry. > > There are gems in remote folders in Treasury Reports, in Muster Rolls, > Quartermaster Records, Hospital records, Misc. folders and so on. You can't > leave any stone unturned on fold3, there are many gems just waiting to be > discovered. > > Thankfully, you can now search using soundex and such where before we > needed the correct spelling or needed to be very creative in our spelling. > > I am pretty sure that there is an organization in Canada of descendants of > people who went to Canada as Loyalists. I seem to recall seeing it when I > had an Ancestry subscription years ago that included the Canadian records. > > Judy > > > In a message dated 9/20/2012 12:44:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Phil, Do you have the information on, or are you related to, Andrew, Moses > and Nicholas Yerks of Orange County, NY? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Philip L Hayes > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the > Revolutionary War > > LOL... Did you see "Who Do You Think you Are?" last week? Rob Lowe found > himself in that exact position. > > Thanks for feedback. > > BTW... Jean Ann from this list found some Revolutionary War Rolls on Fold3 > that indicate a Hermon Yerks served in and around West Point in 1779. He > could be one of the relatives I am looking for, but I can find NO other > mention of him anywhere regarding the Revolution. No pension records... > nothing. There is a Harmon Yerks who served in PA, but I am pretty sure it > is a different person. He shows up in NO DAR applications. Of course, if > it is from my wife's line, it would make sense. Some of the children of > Hermon were VERY poor. That lasted for at least two generations. They > probably had little interest in that organization when they has little > money. It might also make sense because the Hermon Yerks in my wife's tree > would be between the ages of 12 and 16 during the time period of the Muster > Rolls. Maybe he ran up to West Point as a kid to try to join but was never > recognized for pension purposes. > > Phil > > > On May 1, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Brian J Densmore wrote: > >> Many of the details in these original documents were authenticated >> with SAR and DAR applications long ago. It's a matter of finding an >> ancestor whose bloodline has already been proven and then simply >> proving your bloodline to them. I'd be mildly surprised if there are >> any RW Patriots who are not in the rolls already. Any of the records >> referred to in applications that are now destroyed should not be >> necessary to produce, as they would already have been vetted by the >> society. It should be a valid source to use as proof. Even if 2/3 of >> the originals are gone. The remains of the collection are still viewable > in Albany. >> >> Still, the pedantic in me, would love to get my hands on the original >> records. Someday, I'll get around to sending in my application. I have >> all the proof I need, just never makes it to the top of my todo list. >> >> Is there also a society for Torie descendants? I may have one or two >> of them in my direct line, as well. Definitely have uncles in that > category. >> Brother against brother, literally. It must have been a very sad and >> trying time. >> >> I can't imagine the heartache of fighting against my brothers. Or my >> father, or children. >> >> HTH, >> Brian >> >> On Mon, April 30, 2012 10:19 pm, Philip L Hayes wrote: >>> I believe the book you are referring to has just the index of names in > it. >>> The actual original documents, with their details, appear to have >>> been destroyed. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Barbara de Mare wrote: >>> >>>> I always access this book on Google Books. It is free to download >>>> and copy. >>>> >>>> >>>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>>> Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother >>>> 155 Polifly Road >>>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>>> >>>> (201) 567-9440 office >>>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: John LaBarre <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:26 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York >>>> in the Revolutionary War >>>> >>>> I looked in "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State" and >>>> William YERKIS is actually on page 206. I have an original and the >>>> reprint put out by Genealogical Publishing and the pages are the >>>> same between both versions. >>>> William is listed with the "Westchester County Militia-First Regiment" >>>> The officers were; Col Joseph DRAKE, Col James HAMMAN, Major >>>> Jonathan HORTON, Major Jonathan H. PAULDING, Quarter Master > Richard >>>> GARRISON. Captains; Jessie BAKER, Nicolas BERRIEN, George COMB, >>>> Joseph DRAKE, Israel HONEYWELL, Daniel MARTLING, Jonas ORSOR, Gabriel >>>> REQUAW, Richard SACKETT; Lieutenants, Benjamin BROWN, William > DAVIS, >>>> Daniel DeVOE, Nathan FISH, Nathaniel GARRISON, Jonathan KNAPP, Henry >>>> LAMBERT, Hezekiah MILLER, William MOSHER, Isaac REQUA, Cornelius Van >>>> TASSELL, Jacob Van TASSELL, John Van WORT, Willaim WARNER, Daniel >>>> WILLIAMS, Ensign's, Thomas BOYCE, John OAKLEY, Peter PAULDING, >>>> Stephen SHERWOOD, Isaac VALENTINE, Jr. >>>> Hope this sheds some light on your family. >>>> John >>>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> Author: philiplhayes >>>>> Surnames: Yerks yerkes >>>>> Classification: queries >>>>> >>>>> Message Board URL: >>>>> >>>>> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.co >>>>> unties.westchester/7258/mb.ashx >>>>> >>>>> Message Board Post: >>>>> >>>>> I may have just found a useful clue in the DAR application I >>>>> mentioned in an earlier post. It refers to something called >>>>> "Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary >>>>> War". It looks like it has the following references for William > Yerks. >>>>> >>>>> Volume 13, folio 55 >>>>> Volume 16, Folio 180 Pension Papers Volume 42, Folio 70, page 12 >>>>> Volume 50, Folio 93, page 3 >>>>> >>>>> I could not find an exact match for this, but.... >>>>> >>>>> It also mentions... >>>>> >>>>> "Robert's New York In The Revolution, page 266 or 286 >>>>> >>>>> I did find "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State", by James >>>>> Arthur Roberts on Google Books. It does mention a William Yerkis on >>>>> page 226. >>>>> >>>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=1JMLAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&d >>>>> q=New York in the revolution as colony and >>>>> state&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wPqeT4W1OcSH6QHNks2ODw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepag >>>>> e&q=New York in the revolution as colony and state&f=false >>>>> >>>>> Anybody have any idea what the actual name of "Manuscripts of >>>>> Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary War" is and/or >>>>> where I can find it? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hayes >>>>> >>>>> Important Note: >>>>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Roach (Roche), Sheehan, Tierney, Kelty and Hanley >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this >>> list over the years. 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Skip… Those names have not crossed my path yet, but I do know there are Yerks relatives that came from the Orange County area. Philip L. Hayes http://www.hayesfamily.us Monroe, CT USA "Genealogy is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living." Researching: CT: Yerks, Condos, Smith NY: Tierney, Lewis, Beattie, Yerks, Hone and Hanley NH: Sheehan, Hayes, Kelty IA: Smith Wales: Lewis Scotland: Beattie Ireland: Hayes. Roach (Roche), Sheehan, Tierney, Kelty and Hanley On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Skip Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > Phil, Do you have the information on, or are you related to, Andrew, Moses > and Nicholas Yerks of Orange County, NY? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Philip L Hayes > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the > Revolutionary War > > LOL... Did you see "Who Do You Think you Are?" last week? Rob Lowe found > himself in that exact position. > > Thanks for feedback. > > BTW... Jean Ann from this list found some Revolutionary War Rolls on Fold3 > that indicate a Hermon Yerks served in and around West Point in 1779. He > could be one of the relatives I am looking for, but I can find NO other > mention of him anywhere regarding the Revolution. No pension records... > nothing. There is a Harmon Yerks who served in PA, but I am pretty sure it > is a different person. He shows up in NO DAR applications. Of course, if > it is from my wife's line, it would make sense. Some of the children of > Hermon were VERY poor. That lasted for at least two generations. They > probably had little interest in that organization when they has little > money. It might also make sense because the Hermon Yerks in my wife's tree > would be between the ages of 12 and 16 during the time period of the Muster > Rolls. Maybe he ran up to West Point as a kid to try to join but was never > recognized for pension purposes. > > Phil > > > On May 1, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Brian J Densmore wrote: > >> Many of the details in these original documents were authenticated >> with SAR and DAR applications long ago. It's a matter of finding an >> ancestor whose bloodline has already been proven and then simply >> proving your bloodline to them. I'd be mildly surprised if there are >> any RW Patriots who are not in the rolls already. Any of the records >> referred to in applications that are now destroyed should not be >> necessary to produce, as they would already have been vetted by the >> society. It should be a valid source to use as proof. Even if 2/3 of >> the originals are gone. The remains of the collection are still viewable > in Albany. >> >> Still, the pedantic in me, would love to get my hands on the original >> records. Someday, I'll get around to sending in my application. I have >> all the proof I need, just never makes it to the top of my todo list. >> >> Is there also a society for Torie descendants? I may have one or two >> of them in my direct line, as well. Definitely have uncles in that > category. >> Brother against brother, literally. It must have been a very sad and >> trying time. >> >> I can't imagine the heartache of fighting against my brothers. Or my >> father, or children. >> >> HTH, >> Brian >> >> On Mon, April 30, 2012 10:19 pm, Philip L Hayes wrote: >>> I believe the book you are referring to has just the index of names in > it. >>> The actual original documents, with their details, appear to have >>> been destroyed. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Barbara de Mare wrote: >>> >>>> I always access this book on Google Books. It is free to download >>>> and copy. >>>> >>>> >>>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>>> Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother >>>> 155 Polifly Road >>>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>>> >>>> (201) 567-9440 office >>>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: John LaBarre <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:26 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York >>>> in the Revolutionary War >>>> >>>> I looked in "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State" and >>>> William YERKIS is actually on page 206. I have an original and the >>>> reprint put out by Genealogical Publishing and the pages are the >>>> same between both versions. >>>> William is listed with the "Westchester County Militia-First Regiment" >>>> The officers were; Col Joseph DRAKE, Col James HAMMAN, Major >>>> Jonathan HORTON, Major Jonathan H. PAULDING, Quarter Master Richard >>>> GARRISON. Captains; Jessie BAKER, Nicolas BERRIEN, George COMB, >>>> Joseph DRAKE, Israel HONEYWELL, Daniel MARTLING, Jonas ORSOR, Gabriel >>>> REQUAW, Richard SACKETT; Lieutenants, Benjamin BROWN, William DAVIS, >>>> Daniel DeVOE, Nathan FISH, Nathaniel GARRISON, Jonathan KNAPP, Henry >>>> LAMBERT, Hezekiah MILLER, William MOSHER, Isaac REQUA, Cornelius Van >>>> TASSELL, Jacob Van TASSELL, John Van WORT, Willaim WARNER, Daniel >>>> WILLIAMS, Ensign's, Thomas BOYCE, John OAKLEY, Peter PAULDING, >>>> Stephen SHERWOOD, Isaac VALENTINE, Jr. >>>> Hope this sheds some light on your family. >>>> John >>>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> Author: philiplhayes >>>>> Surnames: Yerks yerkes >>>>> Classification: queries >>>>> >>>>> Message Board URL: >>>>> >>>>> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.co >>>>> unties.westchester/7258/mb.ashx >>>>> >>>>> Message Board Post: >>>>> >>>>> I may have just found a useful clue in the DAR application I >>>>> mentioned in an earlier post. It refers to something called >>>>> "Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary >>>>> War". It looks like it has the following references for William Yerks. >>>>> >>>>> Volume 13, folio 55 >>>>> Volume 16, Folio 180 Pension Papers Volume 42, Folio 70, page 12 >>>>> Volume 50, Folio 93, page 3 >>>>> >>>>> I could not find an exact match for this, but.... >>>>> >>>>> It also mentions... >>>>> >>>>> "Robert's New York In The Revolution, page 266 or 286 >>>>> >>>>> I did find "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State", by James >>>>> Arthur Roberts on Google Books. It does mention a William Yerkis on >>>>> page 226. >>>>> >>>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=1JMLAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&d >>>>> q=New York in the revolution as colony and >>>>> state&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wPqeT4W1OcSH6QHNks2ODw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepag >>>>> e&q=New York in the revolution as colony and state&f=false >>>>> >>>>> Anybody have any idea what the actual name of "Manuscripts of >>>>> Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary War" is and/or >>>>> where I can find it? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hayes >>>>> >>>>> Important Note: >>>>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Didn't read everything, so forgive me if you already have some of my answers.  I have done over 75 successful DAR applications in the last 4 years, so l am quite familiar with its requirements.  I also work with the local SAR in doing applications. As most of the ones i have done are for ancestors from what is now North Rockland County, I have  also learned a lot of history of the area.   1.  The DAR accepts any service during the Revolutionary War, military or civil.  Operating the ferry which transported troops across the Hudson was sufficient service for one DAR application.  More common are serving on a Committee of Correspondence, being a Justice of the Peace, and holding other town positions.    2.  The names I noticed you mention, Youmans and Hogencamp, are Orange (now Rockland) County names from the Town of Haverstraw.  There was a document called the Orangetown Resolutions, or some such thing, that was signed by all patriots in southern Orange (now Rockland) County.  it is divided up in sections by areas--the Town of Haverstraw was a very large area at that time, what is now all of north Rockland County.  Cole has Resolutions in his History of Rockland County.  Signing the resolutions is sufficient service for the DAR.   3.  Withdrawing a pension request, or even having a pension application denied, in no way affects a DAR or SAR application.  These pension applications can be just as valuable for DAR and SAR purposes as a pension granted.  That is because the reason for denial was generally that the length of service required under various pension acts was very hard to prove for militia members, especially those in the Orange County militia.  These men were charged with guarding the shores of the Hudson.  Hence, they were called out whenever there was a british sighting, and then went back home and worked their farms.  Many did not show up in the summer but would do guard duty most of the winter.  No records were kept of the length of each stint on guard duty.  I actually have an ancestor whose heirs were denied a pension because they couldn't prove that the service was military, not civilian.  He was a quartermaster and paymaster throughout most of the War for Salem and Burlington Counties, New Jersey.  This duty salved his conscience as a Quaker but contributed to the Patriot cause.  He considered himself to be in the military, but the pension Board was not convinced.   If you want to find the orangetown resolutions, drop me a note and I will give you the page where it begins.  The problem with Cole--no index.  I am at work now or would include it in this email. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother 155 Polifly Road--3rd floor (office) Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ [email protected] ________________________________ From: Philip Hayes <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the Revoluti... Brian. Thanks. Maybe I can find out some more about him. Philip L. Hayes http://www.hayesfamily.us Monroe, CT USA "Genealogy is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living." Researching: CT: Yerks, Condos, Smith NY: Tierney, Lewis, Beattie, Yerks, Hone and Hanley NH: Sheehan, Hayes, Kelty IA: Smith Wales: Lewis Scotland: Beattie Ireland: Hayes. Roach (Roche), Sheehan, Tierney, Kelty and Hanley On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Brian J Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > Phil, > > On the matter of Hermon Yerks being 12-16 during the time he wished to > serve in the RW at West Point, one of my ancestors did likewise, Jonathon > Youmans. He however applied for and withdrew his application for a > pension, but in that application is verification by some of his comrades. > He didn't see any frontline action, or fight in any battles but did serve > at West Point. One of those witnesses was a local politician, a judge > Hogenkamp, IIRC. > > So it's totally feasible, he served. Whether the DAR/SAR accepts that kind > of service, I don't know. I have many routes to joining, and for me at > least it's simply a matter of linking back to one already in those lists. > > Brian > > On Thu, September 20, 2012 7:51 am, Judy wrote: >> I just read through this string and may I add~ >> >> There are many patriots who are not listed with the DAR or SAR. My Henry >> Depew, for instance. My problem being the lack of DAR acceptable records >> for >> his son and grandson. Why wasn't he added years ago when the requirements >> were less restrictive? No one bothered, those in my family who were from >> his >> son, Abraham's line, went in on Abraham. Henry was ignored. >> >> I spend many hours on fold3. A simple search for a person may not turn up >> as much information as you would like, it could be the person is there >> somewhere  but his name has not been annotated to show up in a search. >> >> I have found men who died, no pension, only a handful of Service records >> mentions and nothing else to show they ever existed.  Did they have >> families, possibly, for some reason  they did not need or knew they could >> to apply >> for a pension. Who knows. I have found interesting information on men  who >> did live in affidavits on other's pension applications, including my >> Henry. >> >> There are gems in remote folders in Treasury Reports, in Muster Rolls, >> Quartermaster Records, Hospital records, Misc. folders and so on. You >> can't >> leave any stone unturned on fold3, there are many gems just waiting to be >> discovered. >> >> Thankfully, you can now search using soundex and such where before we >> needed the correct spelling or needed to be very creative in our spelling. >> >> I am pretty sure that there is an organization in Canada of descendants of >> people who went to Canada as Loyalists. I seem to recall seeing it  when I >> had an Ancestry subscription years ago that included the Canadian >> records. >> >> Judy >> >> >> In a message dated 9/20/2012 12:44:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Phil, Do  you have the information on, or are you related to, Andrew, >> Moses >> and  Nicholas Yerks of Orange County, NY? >> >> -----Original  Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Philip L Hayes >> Sent:  Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re:  [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in >> the >> Revolutionary  War >> >> LOL... Did you see "Who Do You Think you Are?" last week?  Rob  Lowe found >> himself in that exact position. >> >> Thanks for  feedback. >> >> BTW... Jean Ann from this list found some Revolutionary War  Rolls on >> Fold3 >> that indicate a Hermon Yerks served in and around West Point  in 1779. >> He >> could be one of the relatives I am looking for, but  I can find NO other >> mention of him anywhere regarding the  Revolution.  No pension records... >> nothing.  There is a  Harmon Yerks who served in PA, but I am pretty sure >> it >> is a different  person.  He shows up in NO DAR applications.  Of course, >> if >> it is  from my wife's line, it would make sense.  Some of the children  of >> Hermon were VERY poor.  That lasted for at least two  generations.  They >> probably had little interest in that organization  when they has little >> money.  It might also make sense because the  Hermon Yerks in my wife's >> tree >> would be between the ages of 12 and 16  during the time period of the >> Muster >> Rolls.  Maybe he ran up to West  Point as a kid to try to join but was >> never >> recognized for pension  purposes. >> >> Phil > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester  County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years.  Visit > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester  County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** Browse or Search the Mailing List Archives of postings sent to this list over the years.  Visit http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/NY/westchester.html#NYWESTCH *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Phil, On the matter of Hermon Yerks being 12-16 during the time he wished to serve in the RW at West Point, one of my ancestors did likewise, Jonathon Youmans. He however applied for and withdrew his application for a pension, but in that application is verification by some of his comrades. He didn't see any frontline action, or fight in any battles but did serve at West Point. One of those witnesses was a local politician, a judge Hogenkamp, IIRC. So it's totally feasible, he served. Whether the DAR/SAR accepts that kind of service, I don't know. I have many routes to joining, and for me at least it's simply a matter of linking back to one already in those lists. Brian On Thu, September 20, 2012 7:51 am, Judy wrote: > I just read through this string and may I add~ > > There are many patriots who are not listed with the DAR or SAR. My Henry > Depew, for instance. My problem being the lack of DAR acceptable records > for > his son and grandson. Why wasn't he added years ago when the requirements > were less restrictive? No one bothered, those in my family who were from > his > son, Abraham's line, went in on Abraham. Henry was ignored. > > I spend many hours on fold3. A simple search for a person may not turn up > as much information as you would like, it could be the person is there > somewhere but his name has not been annotated to show up in a search. > > I have found men who died, no pension, only a handful of Service records > mentions and nothing else to show they ever existed. Did they have > families, possibly, for some reason they did not need or knew they could > to apply > for a pension. Who knows. I have found interesting information on men who > did live in affidavits on other's pension applications, including my > Henry. > > There are gems in remote folders in Treasury Reports, in Muster Rolls, > Quartermaster Records, Hospital records, Misc. folders and so on. You > can't > leave any stone unturned on fold3, there are many gems just waiting to be > discovered. > > Thankfully, you can now search using soundex and such where before we > needed the correct spelling or needed to be very creative in our spelling. > > I am pretty sure that there is an organization in Canada of descendants of > people who went to Canada as Loyalists. I seem to recall seeing it when I > had an Ancestry subscription years ago that included the Canadian > records. > > Judy > > > In a message dated 9/20/2012 12:44:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Phil, Do you have the information on, or are you related to, Andrew, > Moses > and Nicholas Yerks of Orange County, NY? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Philip L Hayes > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in > the > Revolutionary War > > LOL... Did you see "Who Do You Think you Are?" last week? Rob Lowe found > himself in that exact position. > > Thanks for feedback. > > BTW... Jean Ann from this list found some Revolutionary War Rolls on > Fold3 > that indicate a Hermon Yerks served in and around West Point in 1779. > He > could be one of the relatives I am looking for, but I can find NO other > mention of him anywhere regarding the Revolution. No pension records... > nothing. There is a Harmon Yerks who served in PA, but I am pretty sure > it > is a different person. He shows up in NO DAR applications. Of course, > if > it is from my wife's line, it would make sense. Some of the children of > Hermon were VERY poor. That lasted for at least two generations. They > probably had little interest in that organization when they has little > money. It might also make sense because the Hermon Yerks in my wife's > tree > would be between the ages of 12 and 16 during the time period of the > Muster > Rolls. Maybe he ran up to West Point as a kid to try to join but was > never > recognized for pension purposes. > > Phil

I just read through this string and may I add~ There are many patriots who are not listed with the DAR or SAR. My Henry Depew, for instance. My problem being the lack of DAR acceptable records for his son and grandson. Why wasn't he added years ago when the requirements were less restrictive? No one bothered, those in my family who were from his son, Abraham's line, went in on Abraham. Henry was ignored. I spend many hours on fold3. A simple search for a person may not turn up as much information as you would like, it could be the person is there somewhere but his name has not been annotated to show up in a search. I have found men who died, no pension, only a handful of Service records mentions and nothing else to show they ever existed. Did they have families, possibly, for some reason they did not need or knew they could to apply for a pension. Who knows. I have found interesting information on men who did live in affidavits on other's pension applications, including my Henry. There are gems in remote folders in Treasury Reports, in Muster Rolls, Quartermaster Records, Hospital records, Misc. folders and so on. You can't leave any stone unturned on fold3, there are many gems just waiting to be discovered. Thankfully, you can now search using soundex and such where before we needed the correct spelling or needed to be very creative in our spelling. I am pretty sure that there is an organization in Canada of descendants of people who went to Canada as Loyalists. I seem to recall seeing it when I had an Ancestry subscription years ago that included the Canadian records. Judy In a message dated 9/20/2012 12:44:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Phil, Do you have the information on, or are you related to, Andrew, Moses and Nicholas Yerks of Orange County, NY? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Philip L Hayes Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary War LOL... Did you see "Who Do You Think you Are?" last week? Rob Lowe found himself in that exact position. Thanks for feedback. BTW... Jean Ann from this list found some Revolutionary War Rolls on Fold3 that indicate a Hermon Yerks served in and around West Point in 1779. He could be one of the relatives I am looking for, but I can find NO other mention of him anywhere regarding the Revolution. No pension records... nothing. There is a Harmon Yerks who served in PA, but I am pretty sure it is a different person. He shows up in NO DAR applications. Of course, if it is from my wife's line, it would make sense. Some of the children of Hermon were VERY poor. That lasted for at least two generations. They probably had little interest in that organization when they has little money. It might also make sense because the Hermon Yerks in my wife's tree would be between the ages of 12 and 16 during the time period of the Muster Rolls. Maybe he ran up to West Point as a kid to try to join but was never recognized for pension purposes. Phil On May 1, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Brian J Densmore wrote: > Many of the details in these original documents were authenticated > with SAR and DAR applications long ago. It's a matter of finding an > ancestor whose bloodline has already been proven and then simply > proving your bloodline to them. I'd be mildly surprised if there are > any RW Patriots who are not in the rolls already. Any of the records > referred to in applications that are now destroyed should not be > necessary to produce, as they would already have been vetted by the > society. It should be a valid source to use as proof. Even if 2/3 of > the originals are gone. The remains of the collection are still viewable in Albany. > > Still, the pedantic in me, would love to get my hands on the original > records. Someday, I'll get around to sending in my application. I have > all the proof I need, just never makes it to the top of my todo list. > > Is there also a society for Torie descendants? I may have one or two > of them in my direct line, as well. Definitely have uncles in that category. > Brother against brother, literally. It must have been a very sad and > trying time. > > I can't imagine the heartache of fighting against my brothers. Or my > father, or children. > > HTH, > Brian > > On Mon, April 30, 2012 10:19 pm, Philip L Hayes wrote: >> I believe the book you are referring to has just the index of names in it. >> The actual original documents, with their details, appear to have >> been destroyed. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Barbara de Mare wrote: >> >>> I always access this book on Google Books. It is free to download >>> and copy. >>> >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: John LaBarre <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:26 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York >>> in the Revolutionary War >>> >>> I looked in "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State" and >>> William YERKIS is actually on page 206. I have an original and the >>> reprint put out by Genealogical Publishing and the pages are the >>> same between both versions. >>> William is listed with the "Westchester County Militia-First Regiment" >>> The officers were; Col Joseph DRAKE, Col James HAMMAN, Major >>> Jonathan HORTON, Major Jonathan H. PAULDING, Quarter Master Richard >>> GARRISON. Captains; Jessie BAKER, Nicolas BERRIEN, George COMB, >>> Joseph DRAKE, Israel HONEYWELL, Daniel MARTLING, Jonas ORSOR, Gabriel >>> REQUAW, Richard SACKETT; Lieutenants, Benjamin BROWN, William DAVIS, >>> Daniel DeVOE, Nathan FISH, Nathaniel GARRISON, Jonathan KNAPP, Henry >>> LAMBERT, Hezekiah MILLER, William MOSHER, Isaac REQUA, Cornelius Van >>> TASSELL, Jacob Van TASSELL, John Van WORT, Willaim WARNER, Daniel >>> WILLIAMS, Ensign's, Thomas BOYCE, John OAKLEY, Peter PAULDING, >>> Stephen SHERWOOD, Isaac VALENTINE, Jr. >>> Hope this sheds some light on your family. >>> John >>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>> >>>> Author: philiplhayes >>>> Surnames: Yerks yerkes >>>> Classification: queries >>>> >>>> Message Board URL: >>>> >>>> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.co >>>> unties.westchester/7258/mb.ashx >>>> >>>> Message Board Post: >>>> >>>> I may have just found a useful clue in the DAR application I >>>> mentioned in an earlier post. It refers to something called >>>> "Manuscripts of Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary >>>> War". It looks like it has the following references for William Yerks. >>>> >>>> Volume 13, folio 55 >>>> Volume 16, Folio 180 Pension Papers Volume 42, Folio 70, page 12 >>>> Volume 50, Folio 93, page 3 >>>> >>>> I could not find an exact match for this, but.... >>>> >>>> It also mentions... >>>> >>>> "Robert's New York In The Revolution, page 266 or 286 >>>> >>>> I did find "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State", by James >>>> Arthur Roberts on Google Books. It does mention a William Yerkis on >>>> page 226. >>>> >>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=1JMLAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&d >>>> q=New York in the revolution as colony and >>>> state&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wPqeT4W1OcSH6QHNks2ODw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepag >>>> e&q=New York in the revolution as colony and state&f=false >>>> >>>> Anybody have any idea what the actual name of "Manuscripts of >>>> Colony and State of New York in the Revolutionary War" is and/or >>>> where I can find it? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Phil Hayes >>>> >>>> Important Note: >>>> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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