Madelyn, Good stuff and thanx for the Brandreth up-date. I'm an old carpenter/woodworker and actually did a good deal of historic restoration work in Ossining, back in the 80's. Of course I had no interest in my genealogy at the time, but was always fascinated with the history of the old buildings. Oh well, I'll get back there some day with a little differant eye. Good luck to your niece and the Lilacs. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Madelyn Klaffy" <mklaffky@columbus.rr.com> To: "NYWestch" <NYWestch-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] "The Lilacs"-Mead Family home in 1890 > My niece who is very interested in our genealogy has helped me with info > regarding the years I lived in Ossining since she now lives there. I > have > been forwarding her all the great emails on its history. She sent me the > following. I would appreciate any help you might be able to give. > > > > "I've done a bit of research into the history of Ossining, mostly looking > for history regarding this house. At one time the house I live in was > "the > manor house" of most of the surrounding property. After the Mead family > had > it built and lived here a while, A.L. Myers bought the house (fine > furniture, stores all over NY), lived here through the late 40's, and > then > unfortunately was bought and sold numerous times, fell into disrepair, and > ending up as a boarding house. It is (was) quite a beautiful old house, > and > I have been trying to find photos of at least the exterior for quite some > time. From what is left here I know that it had a double story wrap > around > porch, the downstair apartment is mostly original, Eastlake light > fixtures, > inlaid hardwood (oak) floors, plaster crown moldings, etc. Original > chandeliers in my apartment as well as downstairs (incredibly gaudy, I > love > them!!), Our ceilings are 12 feet high, but it is almost impossible to > tell > where some rooms began or ended, in my kitchen there is half of the old > gaslight fixture, so I know that wall shouldn't be there, (yes, there are > gaslight fixtures all over the place, but the chandeliers are electric, > and > from the late 1800's, as are the fixtures downstairs, we took them apart, > was a little scary, but the electrician assured us they were safe, and > yes, > they work). Mostly original windows, throughout, but downstairs they are > floor to ceiling and probably 5 feet wide! (I'd hate to see their utility > bill, lol). In the yard I've spent the 5 years that I've lived here > digging > up plants that just show up willy-nilly all over the place, by now they > have > to number at least a thousand. I recently met someone that apparently is > friends a relative of the Myers family that lived here, and am hoping they > have family photos of the house, either inside or out. Anyway, I could > (obviously) go on forever, but if, in your email travels, anyone knows > anything, I would love to find out more. " > > > > "The last Brandreth was still living in Ossining about 10 years ago, I'm > not > sure if she is still there, or with us. The factory closed in 1979, and > there is a Brandreth Street here. And the Shattumuc Yacht Club membership > circa 1890 was great, most of those people have street names here, but Mr. > William Clinton Mead was the original builder of the house I now live in > (building began 1888, completed 1890), was originally called "The Lilacs", > and was on, of all things, Mead Place. Mead Place is now just a path > through Nelson Park, and is no longer called Mead Place. " > > > > Mklaffky@columbus.rr.com > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What surname are you researching? Also, in 1820 there were also at least two villages/communities/neighborhoods called Westchester, one of which was in the Bromx. NY. Dan of Pennsylvania, USA --------------------------- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ---------------------- Need help on town identification in Westchester. In 1810-20-30 era. Obituary lists birthplace as New Rochelle in 1808. Only one person by this surname in Westchester in 1820 census but listed in South Salem. None in 1810 or 1830. Any possibility that these could be the same place due to name changes during this period ? Thanks for any help, Bill Staples

New Rochelle and South Salem are too far apart (20 miles?) to be considered the same place. George

Need help on town identification in Westchester. In 1810-20-30 era. Obituary lists birthplace as New Rochelle in 1808. Only one person by this surname in Westchester in 1820 census but listed in South Salem. None in 1810 or 1830. Any possibility that these could be the same place due to name changes during this period ? Thanks for any help, Bill Staples

Vunderbar! I love to hear of those who undertake this kind of work! ----and enjoy! My house was ready to be bulldozed when I got it. The barn was gone too. But we have spent 30 enjoyable years discovering, preserving, and restoring this old Adirondack farm. Our children grew up in the middle of it. We are far from finished. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Madelyn Klaffy" <mklaffky@columbus.rr.com> To: "NYWestch" <NYWestch-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] "The Lilacs"-Mead Family home in 1890 > My niece who is very interested in our genealogy has helped me with info > regarding the years I lived in Ossining since she now lives there. I > have > been forwarding her all the great emails on its history. She sent me the > following. I would appreciate any help you might be able to give. > > > > "I've done a bit of research into the history of Ossining, mostly looking > for history regarding this house. At one time the house I live in was > "the > manor house" of most of the surrounding property. After the Mead family > had > it built and lived here a while, A.L. Myers bought the house (fine > furniture, stores all over NY), lived here through the late 40's, and > then > unfortunately was bought and sold numerous times, fell into disrepair, and > ending up as a boarding house. It is (was) quite a beautiful old house, > and > I have been trying to find photos of at least the exterior for quite some > time. From what is left here I know that it had a double story wrap > around > porch, the downstair apartment is mostly original, Eastlake light > fixtures, > inlaid hardwood (oak) floors, plaster crown moldings, etc. Original > chandeliers in my apartment as well as downstairs (incredibly gaudy, I > love > them!!), Our ceilings are 12 feet high, but it is almost impossible to > tell > where some rooms began or ended, in my kitchen there is half of the old > gaslight fixture, so I know that wall shouldn't be there, (yes, there are > gaslight fixtures all over the place, but the chandeliers are electric, > and > from the late 1800's, as are the fixtures downstairs, we took them apart, > was a little scary, but the electrician assured us they were safe, and > yes, > they work). Mostly original windows, throughout, but downstairs they are > floor to ceiling and probably 5 feet wide! (I'd hate to see their utility > bill, lol). In the yard I've spent the 5 years that I've lived here > digging > up plants that just show up willy-nilly all over the place, by now they > have > to number at least a thousand. I recently met someone that apparently is > friends a relative of the Myers family that lived here, and am hoping they > have family photos of the house, either inside or out. Anyway, I could > (obviously) go on forever, but if, in your email travels, anyone knows > anything, I would love to find out more. " > > > > "The last Brandreth was still living in Ossining about 10 years ago, I'm > not > sure if she is still there, or with us. The factory closed in 1979, and > there is a Brandreth Street here. And the Shattumuc Yacht Club membership > circa 1890 was great, most of those people have street names here, but Mr. > William Clinton Mead was the original builder of the house I now live in > (building began 1888, completed 1890), was originally called "The Lilacs", > and was on, of all things, Mead Place. Mead Place is now just a path > through Nelson Park, and is no longer called Mead Place. " > > > > Mklaffky@columbus.rr.com > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My niece who is very interested in our genealogy has helped me with info regarding the years I lived in Ossining since she now lives there. I have been forwarding her all the great emails on its history. She sent me the following. I would appreciate any help you might be able to give. "I've done a bit of research into the history of Ossining, mostly looking for history regarding this house. At one time the house I live in was "the manor house" of most of the surrounding property. After the Mead family had it built and lived here a while, A.L. Myers bought the house (fine furniture, stores all over NY), lived here through the late 40's, and then unfortunately was bought and sold numerous times, fell into disrepair, and ending up as a boarding house. It is (was) quite a beautiful old house, and I have been trying to find photos of at least the exterior for quite some time. From what is left here I know that it had a double story wrap around porch, the downstair apartment is mostly original, Eastlake light fixtures, inlaid hardwood (oak) floors, plaster crown moldings, etc. Original chandeliers in my apartment as well as downstairs (incredibly gaudy, I love them!!), Our ceilings are 12 feet high, but it is almost impossible to tell where some rooms began or ended, in my kitchen there is half of the old gaslight fixture, so I know that wall shouldn't be there, (yes, there are gaslight fixtures all over the place, but the chandeliers are electric, and from the late 1800's, as are the fixtures downstairs, we took them apart, was a little scary, but the electrician assured us they were safe, and yes, they work). Mostly original windows, throughout, but downstairs they are floor to ceiling and probably 5 feet wide! (I'd hate to see their utility bill, lol). In the yard I've spent the 5 years that I've lived here digging up plants that just show up willy-nilly all over the place, by now they have to number at least a thousand. I recently met someone that apparently is friends a relative of the Myers family that lived here, and am hoping they have family photos of the house, either inside or out. Anyway, I could (obviously) go on forever, but if, in your email travels, anyone knows anything, I would love to find out more. " "The last Brandreth was still living in Ossining about 10 years ago, I'm not sure if she is still there, or with us. The factory closed in 1979, and there is a Brandreth Street here. And the Shattumuc Yacht Club membership circa 1890 was great, most of those people have street names here, but Mr. William Clinton Mead was the original builder of the house I now live in (building began 1888, completed 1890), was originally called "The Lilacs", and was on, of all things, Mead Place. Mead Place is now just a path through Nelson Park, and is no longer called Mead Place. " Mklaffky@columbus.rr.com

Hi, The Westchester Historian (WCHS magazine) Vol. 81 #1 Winter 2005 is all about the Brandreth family complete with 15 plus photos! Back issues of the magazine are available for $5.00. Please see the following http://www.westchesterhistory.com/Pubs3.html if you want to order one. Jean Ann

I have a gr-gr-gr-grandmother who went by Augusta Phelps Hobart. Couldn't find her ancestors for ever. Then someone recognized the husband and told me that she's Cordelia Augusta Phelps. Her tombstone has her as C.Augusta. The census has her as Augusta. But in all legal papers she is Cordelia Augusta Phelps. On top of that, her husband changed the family name from Hoar to Hobart. Valerie

What is the name of the minister who went on hiatus? Also, I have researched all records at the Presbyterian church in Peekskill and the earliest records they have start in 1826 for the 1st Presbyterian Church. Other records held there are for the 2nd Presbyterian Church and the Payson Presbyterian Church. I too would like to know if the early records are held somewhere. Have you found out where the Presbyterian Archives is located? they might have some answers. Have you checked the Journal of the Rev. Silas Constant? He was at the Presbyterian Church in Yorktown. An Elizabeth Dusenbury, a child, was listed as baptized there, no date. There is an Elizabeth Wright who joined the church in 1786, but she is listed as living out of parish. This book can be found on Heritage Quest. Many libraries have a subscription to it, as does NYG&B. Judy Wolf

Hi Richard, I can tell you only from my own experience with this sort of thing.....yours may turn out differently. My 4th great grandparents, Hannah and Samuel Brower, were staunch Patriots who had to flee New Amsterdam during the Rev War during the Brithish invasion. Along with many others, they and their children became refugees. They escaped to Fishkill, Dutchess County to stay with relatives. My 3rd great grandmother, Hester Brouwer, was born during this time. She was not baptized until two years later when the family was able to return to their home church downstate......Dutch Reformed. As for a marriage, the Northerners to my knowledge did not live in common law as did those who went West with the wagon trains later in the history of our country. The traveling preachers would marry a bunch of couples as he passed thru a town and perform baptisms in bunches too on children born to the common law couples. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard C. Randt" <rcrandt@comcast.net> To: <ROOTS@rootsweb.com>; <WRIGHT@rootsweb.com>; <NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com>; <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com>; <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>; <NY-SOUTHERN@rootsweb.com>; <NY-HUDSONRV@rootsweb.com>; <NEWYORK@rootsweb.com>; <NY-LONGISLAND@rootsweb.com>; <GEN-NYS@rootsweb.com>; <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Seeking a Marriage Record for Jotham Wright & Elizabeth Dusenbury, ca. 30 Nov 1778 > Perhaps someone in the New York area, from New York City northward to > Orange and Dutchess counties, can help me with this knotty problem. > > My chief source is Perrine, Howard Delano, "The Wright Family of Oyster > Bay, L. I., 1423-1923," self-publ., New York, 1923. On page 162, > Perrine cites a marriage date of 30 Nov 1778, but does not support it > with any references. Jotham Wright entered the Continental Army as a > Lieutenant in Nov 1779 and his wife, Elizabeth Dusenbury, delivered > their first child 14 Dec 1779. Over the course of their marriage they > had six children. All of them were dutifully baptized in the First > Presbyterian Church of New York City, although the first child and the > second one as well were the first baptisms for the family on the same > day, 19 Dec 1784. I have collected their baptismal records from the > LDS/FHL Microfilms # 1017608 and 1017609. It occurred to me that > perhaps they had also been married there. However, when one goes into > the marriage records of the First Presbyterian Church, around the > presumed date of marriage, one finds an interesting historical note by > the pastor, "N.B. - I quit the City on the approach of the British Army > the 14th inst [Sep 1776]." Marriage records were not recorded again > until May 1781. > > My questions are as follows: > > Where might this pastor have gone to for this hiatus? Did his > congregation follow him? Was the congregation advised where they might > seek a place to worship, be baptized and get married, etc., in relative > safety? On the other hand, the couple probably did not live close > enough to NYC at the time they were married to use the First > Presbyterian, and used a church further north. Is it possible to > construct a list of churches where the couple might have logically > sought out a clergyman during this period? > > As additional background, Elizabeth Dusenbury is said by Perrine to have > been from Peekskill. Jotham Wright was born in Rye, NY and when he > became of age (21?) he settled at a place about 12 miles from Peekskill, > near West Point. > > Any clues or ideas for locating this marriage record would be greatly > appreciated. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morgan House, Poughkeepsie: http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050827/SPECIAL 03/508280308 http://www.geocities.com/heartland/acres/2843/jubileeatpoughkeepsie.html It was a big Hotel in Poughkeepsie. Judy

Carol: I'm glad someone got you the information and you were able to order the book. I wasn't able to check my email until lunch. Enjoy the book, it's very interesting. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: cheap@simon.com Date: Friday, February 2, 2007 12:15 pm Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Sing Sing/ Crowley To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Thanks for book information, I just ordered it. > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is a Morgan House in Dublin, Ohio--It was named for John Hunt Morgan whose Father was Calvin Morgan. The story is at this website www.morganhse.com -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cheap@simon.com Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:13 PM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Peekskill mentions in newpapers/ Morgan House Does anyone know what or where the MORGAN House was? A private home or a hotel? My husband's line come down from Elijah MORGAN son of Caleb MORGAN Thanks, Carol L. Heap FL *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know what or where the MORGAN House was? A private home or a hotel? My husband's line come down from Elijah MORGAN son of Caleb MORGAN Thanks, Carol L. Heap FL

In a message dated 2/2/2007 10:22:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jgrellim@sbcglobal.net writes: My Great Grandfather, John Ormerod, is the patentee of Patent #122642--for an "Improvement in Brick-Machines". You should first go to the Field Library, Peekskill website and check the indexes they have for the Subject folders in the Local History Collection to see if there is one that pertains to the company you are referring to, also contact Robert Boyle there and for a fee they will do some research for you. You should, also check out the Obit index before contacting Bob. _http://www.peekskill.org/_ (http://www.peekskill.org/) Judy Wolf

In a message dated 2/2/2007 12:47:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, KHansen784@aol.com writes: Was this John Paulding a descendent of the John Paulding who was one of the three men who captured Major Andre? That Rev. War. John Paulding died in 1818. So maybe a grandchild? I would think so, I have not followed that line even though it links into my Capt. John McCoy line, I am not related to the Pauldings- yet. I was just searching for Peekskill mentions in old newspapers. Judy

Thanks I did order it from Powell's. Thanks, Carol L. Heap

Thank you for bringing the book to my attention, I never would have thought to look for a book about a prison. I have some newspaper clippings from the local LI papers and found more on the Times microfilms. Someone in the neighborhood must have taken the time to tear out the news each day, I am sure my Grandmother was in no shape to thing of it. My Father had never seem the papers, his older sister sent them to me when I asked about family history, boy was he surprized. My Grandfather was only 31 when he died & my Dad 4 years old, he missed a lot growing up. He once told me that the other Fathers would play catch with their sons but no one ever asked him to join, made me cry at the time. Maybe that was why he always did things for other kids, he coached my brother's little league teams and was always involved with us kids. Thanks, Carol L. Heap

Was this John Paulding a descendent of the John Paulding who was one of the three men who captured Major Andre? That Rev. War. John Paulding died in 1818. So maybe a grandchild?

Thank you Carol. Good source of used books from Independent book sellers: www.abebooks.com also; www.powells.com Charles