Maureen, I know when I was looking for birth and death certificates (several years ago) I had to check with BOTH the Town of Ossining AND the Village of Ossining. I grew up on Croton Dam Road, Ossining. I went to Ossining schools and the address was Ossining but I actually lived in the Town of New Castle. Jean Ann -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of quillpen1 Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:18 PM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 Nancy, I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I had help from another lister who lives down there. However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also want to point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton Dam Rd which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always referred to where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. All comments appreciated. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 > If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates obtained > from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth > Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ are > to > be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the > Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. > > My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester or > Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, consists > of > a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village of > Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. > Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death > (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the > city > clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, they > were all born at home > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM > Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 > > >> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts the >> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and >> town clerks do not know about these records. >> >> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, the >> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where >> they are. >> >> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they have >> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they may >> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >> >> Some have been put on the internet. >> >> For Westchester County: >> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >> >> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will >> be available to the public in early 2005." >> >> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >> >> Cliff Lamere >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I had help from another lister who lives down there. However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also want to point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton Dam Rd which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always referred to where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. All comments appreciated. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 > If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates obtained > from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth > Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ are > to > be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the > Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. > > My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester or > Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, consists > of > a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village of > Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. > Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death > (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the > city > clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, they > were all born at home > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM > Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 > > >> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts the >> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and >> town clerks do not know about these records. >> >> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, the >> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where >> they are. >> >> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they have >> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they may >> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >> >> Some have been put on the internet. >> >> For Westchester County: >> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >> >> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will >> be available to the public in early 2005." >> >> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >> >> Cliff Lamere >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is one of the sites I use. http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi Hope it helps, Maureen in NJ On 5/20/07, Cfscenic@aol.com <Cfscenic@aol.com> wrote: > How can I find the specific county a place is located in? > _cfscenic@aol.com_ (mailto:cfscenic@aol.com) >

A quick answer for modern town/county locations is www.epodunk.com On 5/20/07, Cfscenic@aol.com <Cfscenic@aol.com> wrote: > > How can I find the specific county a place is located in? > _cfscenic@aol.com_ (mailto:cfscenic@aol.com) > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

How can I find the specific county a place is located in? _cfscenic@aol.com_ (mailto:cfscenic@aol.com) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates obtained from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ are to be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester or Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, consists of a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village of Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the city clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, they were all born at home To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 > School districts in the state were required to collect vital records > starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some > districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts the > records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and > town clerks do not know about these records. > > During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old > records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some > counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, the > City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where > they are. > > In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they have > been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they may > be stored somplace where people seldom look. > > Some have been put on the internet. > > For Westchester County: > http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm > > "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have > recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will > be available to the public in early 2005." > > For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm > > Cliff Lamere > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't forget that the NYS Dept. of Healt (non-NYC) civil registation fiche indexes are also available at the NY Regional National Archives location in NYC. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nywestch-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: NYWESTCH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 153 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Birth Records (Foon123@aol.com) > 2. Re: Birth Records (Cliff Lamere) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:02:51 EDT > From: Foon123@aol.com > Subject: [NYWESTCH] Birth Records > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c0c.16d68829.337f0c0b@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I am trying to locate birth records for ancestors who lived in Irvington > in > the late 1880s and early 1890s. I sent requests to the Clerk's Office > there > and was told they only have information on people who were born at home > not > in hospitals. (I don't know whether or not these ancestors were born in a > hospital). I even checked with the Town of Greenburgh, Village of Dobbs > Ferry, > but no luck. I have the baptismal records for these ancestors, but was > hoping > to gain some insight into their parents from the birth records. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could research further? Were > births in New York also sent to Albany for recordation? Is it possible > that > these births were never recorded? > > Thank you for any help you can give me! > Shannon > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:41:17 -0400 > From: Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Birth Records > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <464DE53D.6040205@nycap.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Shannon, > > It is very possible that the births were never recorded. Many more > births were by midwife than by doctors at that time, and some doctors > were poor at reporting. New York City births were not reported to > Albany. They had their own system. The hospital births you mentioned > might have been reported, but I have never heard of a direct link > between hospitals and the state for the sake of reporting. Such > reporting is doubtful. The percentage of births in hospitals at that > time would have been very low. > > Your ancestors may not have been born in the place of baptism. A paid > researcher in Albany could check the NYS Dept of Health Death Index on > microfiche at the NYS Archives for you. It would tell where they were > born, and when. The researcher could also order the birth certificates > for you. If you wish to do that, I can put you in touch with someone. > > Cliff Lamere > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Foon123@aol.com wrote: > >>I am trying to locate birth records for ancestors who lived in Irvington >>in >>the late 1880s and early 1890s. I sent requests to the Clerk's Office >>there >>and was told they only have information on people who were born at home >>not >>in hospitals. (I don't know whether or not these ancestors were born in a >>hospital). I even checked with the Town of Greenburgh, Village of Dobbs >>Ferry, >>but no luck. I have the baptismal records for these ancestors, but was >>hoping >>to gain some insight into their parents from the birth records. >> >>Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could research further? Were >>births in New York also sent to Albany for recordation? Is it possible >>that >>these births were never recorded? >> >>Thank you for any help you can give me! >>Shannon >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYWESTCH list administrator, send an email to > NYWESTCH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYWESTCH mailing list, send an email to > NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYWESTCH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 153 > **************************************** >

School districts in the state were required to collect vital records starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts the records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and town clerks do not know about these records. During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, the City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where they are. In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they have been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they may be stored somplace where people seldom look. Some have been put on the internet. For Westchester County: http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will be available to the public in early 2005." For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm Cliff Lamere ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My greatgrandmother Sarah Jane Tompkins was born 19 July 1847 in Tarrytown, Greenburgh, Westchester, Co. NY Several years ago on a fluke, I called the Town Clerk for Greenburgh Township and she found the birth recorded. I later visited and had my picture taken holding the book. > Subject: [NYWESTCH] Birth Records > > > I am trying to locate birth records for ancestors who lived in > Irvington in > the late 1880s and early 1890s. I sent requests to the Clerk's > Office there > and was told they only have information on people who were born at > home not > in hospitals. (I don't know whether or not these ancestors were > born in a > hospital). I even checked with the Town of Greenburgh, Village of > Dobbs Ferry, > but no luck. I have the baptismal records for these ancestors, > but was hoping > to gain some insight into their parents from the birth records. >

Shannon, It is very possible that the births were never recorded. Many more births were by midwife than by doctors at that time, and some doctors were poor at reporting. New York City births were not reported to Albany. They had their own system. The hospital births you mentioned might have been reported, but I have never heard of a direct link between hospitals and the state for the sake of reporting. Such reporting is doubtful. The percentage of births in hospitals at that time would have been very low. Your ancestors may not have been born in the place of baptism. A paid researcher in Albany could check the NYS Dept of Health Death Index on microfiche at the NYS Archives for you. It would tell where they were born, and when. The researcher could also order the birth certificates for you. If you wish to do that, I can put you in touch with someone. Cliff Lamere ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Foon123@aol.com wrote: >I am trying to locate birth records for ancestors who lived in Irvington in >the late 1880s and early 1890s. I sent requests to the Clerk's Office there >and was told they only have information on people who were born at home not >in hospitals. (I don't know whether or not these ancestors were born in a >hospital). I even checked with the Town of Greenburgh, Village of Dobbs Ferry, >but no luck. I have the baptismal records for these ancestors, but was hoping >to gain some insight into their parents from the birth records. > >Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could research further? Were >births in New York also sent to Albany for recordation? Is it possible that >these births were never recorded? > >Thank you for any help you can give me! >Shannon > > > >

I am trying to locate birth records for ancestors who lived in Irvington in the late 1880s and early 1890s. I sent requests to the Clerk's Office there and was told they only have information on people who were born at home not in hospitals. (I don't know whether or not these ancestors were born in a hospital). I even checked with the Town of Greenburgh, Village of Dobbs Ferry, but no luck. I have the baptismal records for these ancestors, but was hoping to gain some insight into their parents from the birth records. Does anyone have any suggestions on where I could research further? Were births in New York also sent to Albany for recordation? Is it possible that these births were never recorded? Thank you for any help you can give me! Shannon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Have a great vacation, Carol!! Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <cheap@simon.com> To: <NYDUTCHE-L@rootsweb.com>; <NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Vacation > > I will be out of town for 2 weeks, I will re-subscribe when I get back, > Thanks for all the help. > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap, FL > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will be out of town for 2 weeks, I will re-subscribe when I get back, Thanks for all the help. Thanks, Carol L. Heap, FL

What did your town look like according to Penny Postcards. Check out your old stomping grounds during the times of the penny postcard. Click on the state and then on the county to see old penny postcards from that area.....pretty neat. June :-) http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/ppcs/ppcs.html

June: Thank you very much. Wonderful information. Connie J.H. wrote: > Dear Connie, > I just sent out a "How To", to Cliff, answering your question I think too. > It's a form I got from on line, but you fill it out in paper form & mail out > with a check to the FHC - in Utah. I received my certificates within 2 > weeks, in a large envelope - with another form to use next time. > Junie :-) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please share how you ordered the certificates from LDS. Was it an > online form or a paper form? Thanks. Connie > > *************************************** > >

Cliff, My father grew up with Gordineers in Ossining in the early 1900s. They were of Dutch descent. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Request for Photocopies - Answer > June, > > Thank you so much for writing such detailed instructions. I am > collecting information about the Gardenier surname (of about 50 > different spellings) from anywhere in New York State. So far, I have > found about a dozen certificates of interest to me on the Italian site. > > The help is much appreciated. > > Cliff > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > J.H. wrote: > >>Dear Cliff, >>I think it was me who wrote in about ordering 8 marriage certificates and >>yes they are real (copies) of the marriage certificate. >>This is what I did, first have to get the certificate number. I found them >>on >>http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm and >>http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/otherdb.stm and >>http://www.stevemorse.org/ >>In their VITAL records section. You copy all the information you find >>(names, date, where it took place & certificate number). >>Then you go to the LDS site >>http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp >> >>This is the section I used as my family all were in NY >>http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localityhitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&PLACE=New+York&PARTOF=New+York&prePLACE=New+York&prePARTOF=New+York >>Go to the borough that you are interested in & look under vital records - >>NOT - indexes. >>Click on marriage certificates or death certificates & etc. >>Click on upper right hand corner - View Film Notes. >>Scroll & check for your date & where your certificate number you got from >>the sites above, fits in & then it's the FHL number on the far right that >>you have to use to send out to the FHC on that "Request for Photocopies" >>form. >> >>For $2.00 you can't miss - it's worth taking the chance to see if they are >>yours or not. Out of the 8 I sent for - 4 were my family - 1, I put in the >>wrong certificate number in - 3 I don't think are mine, but waiting to >>find >>more proof. >>I wish you good luck, Cliff. If I could help you more just ask (like I did >>to others, as I was scared not knowing "how" to do it - but with the list >>help, it turned out easy). >>June :-) >> >> >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff, Never thought to look for the Gordineers on there, the NYS archives info I looked for is from my mother's German side and have found dome info there and some on CW soldiers and sailors site and the Morman site. Now I have to start sending for things. Judy From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Lamere Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:38 AM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Request for Photocopies - Answer June, Thank you so much for writing such detailed instructions. I am collecting information about the Gardenier surname (of about 50 different spellings) from anywhere in New York State. So far, I have found about a dozen certificates of interest to me on the Italian site. The help is much appreciated. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J.H. wrote: >Dear Cliff, >I think it was me who wrote in about ordering 8 marriage certificates and >yes they are real (copies) of the marriage certificate. >This is what I did, first have to get the certificate number. I found them >on >http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm and >http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/otherdb.stm and >http://www.stevemorse.org/ >In their VITAL records section. You copy all the information you find >(names, date, where it took place & certificate number). >Then you go to the LDS site >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > >This is the section I used as my family all were in NY >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?di splay=localityhitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&PLACE=New+York&PARTOF=New+York&prePL ACE=New+York&prePARTOF=New+York >Go to the borough that you are interested in & look under vital records - >NOT - indexes. >Click on marriage certificates or death certificates & etc. >Click on upper right hand corner - View Film Notes. >Scroll & check for your date & where your certificate number you got from >the sites above, fits in & then it's the FHL number on the far right that >you have to use to send out to the FHC on that "Request for Photocopies" >form. > >For $2.00 you can't miss - it's worth taking the chance to see if they are >yours or not. Out of the 8 I sent for - 4 were my family - 1, I put in the >wrong certificate number in - 3 I don't think are mine, but waiting to find >more proof. >I wish you good luck, Cliff. If I could help you more just ask (like I did >to others, as I was scared not knowing "how" to do it - but with the list >help, it turned out easy). >June :-) > > > *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

June, Thank you so much for writing such detailed instructions. I am collecting information about the Gardenier surname (of about 50 different spellings) from anywhere in New York State. So far, I have found about a dozen certificates of interest to me on the Italian site. The help is much appreciated. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J.H. wrote: >Dear Cliff, >I think it was me who wrote in about ordering 8 marriage certificates and >yes they are real (copies) of the marriage certificate. >This is what I did, first have to get the certificate number. I found them >on >http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm and >http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/otherdb.stm and >http://www.stevemorse.org/ >In their VITAL records section. You copy all the information you find >(names, date, where it took place & certificate number). >Then you go to the LDS site >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > >This is the section I used as my family all were in NY >http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localityhitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&PLACE=New+York&PARTOF=New+York&prePLACE=New+York&prePARTOF=New+York >Go to the borough that you are interested in & look under vital records - >NOT - indexes. >Click on marriage certificates or death certificates & etc. >Click on upper right hand corner - View Film Notes. >Scroll & check for your date & where your certificate number you got from >the sites above, fits in & then it's the FHL number on the far right that >you have to use to send out to the FHC on that "Request for Photocopies" >form. > >For $2.00 you can't miss - it's worth taking the chance to see if they are >yours or not. Out of the 8 I sent for - 4 were my family - 1, I put in the >wrong certificate number in - 3 I don't think are mine, but waiting to find >more proof. >I wish you good luck, Cliff. If I could help you more just ask (like I did >to others, as I was scared not knowing "how" to do it - but with the list >help, it turned out easy). >June :-) > > >

Dear Connie, I just sent out a "How To", to Cliff, answering your question I think too. It's a form I got from on line, but you fill it out in paper form & mail out with a check to the FHC - in Utah. I received my certificates within 2 weeks, in a large envelope - with another form to use next time. Junie :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please share how you ordered the certificates from LDS. Was it an online form or a paper form? Thanks. Connie

Dear Cliff, I think it was me who wrote in about ordering 8 marriage certificates and yes they are real (copies) of the marriage certificate. This is what I did, first have to get the certificate number. I found them on http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm and http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/otherdb.stm and http://www.stevemorse.org/ In their VITAL records section. You copy all the information you find (names, date, where it took place & certificate number). Then you go to the LDS site http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp This is the section I used as my family all were in NY http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localityhitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&PLACE=New+York&PARTOF=New+York&prePLACE=New+York&prePARTOF=New+York Go to the borough that you are interested in & look under vital records - NOT - indexes. Click on marriage certificates or death certificates & etc. Click on upper right hand corner - View Film Notes. Scroll & check for your date & where your certificate number you got from the sites above, fits in & then it's the FHL number on the far right that you have to use to send out to the FHC on that "Request for Photocopies" form. For $2.00 you can't miss - it's worth taking the chance to see if they are yours or not. Out of the 8 I sent for - 4 were my family - 1, I put in the wrong certificate number in - 3 I don't think are mine, but waiting to find more proof. I wish you good luck, Cliff. If I could help you more just ask (like I did to others, as I was scared not knowing "how" to do it - but with the list help, it turned out easy). June :-)