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I must admit that being a researcher who has done all of his research in New England, New York has always made me nervous. For one, the whole city/town/village thing is a challenge. I spent today in search of four death certificates. One was reportedly to be found in Harrison and the other three in Scarsdale. I arrived in Harrison armed with my grandmother's statement that her mother, while buried in Greenwich, CT, had died in Harrison while residing in a nursing home. Now, I know we are great at complaining about Town Clerks, but let me just say, that the people in Harrison went WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND in helping me today. Perhaps I got them on a good day, but they, first gave me an education on where death records end up. Apparently, depending on whether someone died at home, on the street, in a nursing home, transferred to a hospital before death, the event could be recorded in one of several different locales. After discovering that this was not going to be simple, the clerks in Harrison ended up calling five other "jurisdictions", where, in each case, the clerk in that locale checked for my great-grandmother's death. After a quick phone call on my part to my mother to confirm the nursing home: the Osburn, literally around the corner from the Harrison Municipal Building, we find that the death is recorded in the "City" of Rye, not the village or town of Rye. So, thanks to the enormous efforts and education from the clerks in Harrison, and a quick drive over to Rye, I had success in a single morning now holding, my great-grandmother, May Harper Ford's death certificate.... Next, I was off to Scarsdale in search of my great-great-grandparents death certificates, and my 3G-grandmother. They were from the years 1895 (Lorena Lindsley (VanCourt) Harper), 1900 (Eliza Ann (Lowry) Harper) and 1917 (Joseph Alexander Harper). Again, the people in Scarsdale could not have been nicer, but, this time I had less success. It turns out that Scarsdale no longer has (or perhaps never had) marriage and death records from 1880 through 1909. They have birth records for the span of time. So I was only able to find the death certificate of my great-great-grandfather, Joseph Alexander Harper, but not his wife Lorena nor his mother Eliza. I did find and view cemetery records maintained at the Reformed Church in Cortlandtown (which pointed me to Scarsdale, as location of death), but there were no "referral" death certificates located in the Town of Cortlandt (I had checked there yesterday). So, one point of this note is to post a thank you to the clerks that I met this day. The second point is to see if anyone has any advice on my stumbling in Scarsdale.... Does anyone know about this date range appearing in state records perhaps? Did some other jurisdiction walk off with the book from Scarsdale? Was there some "disaster" in Scarsdale that destroyed these records? Curiosity is getting to me this evening.... Thanks in advance for any advice, and happy hunting! --Rob -- Robert Locke Vice President, Webmaster, Connecticut Ancestry Society, Inc., http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcas Treasurer, Acting Webmaster, Locke Family Association, http://lockefamilyassociation.org My Genealogy, http://www.ralii.com/genealogy

Hi Robert, I am glad to hear that you had good experiences. I always have had helpful clerks. But most important, you said so. Too often we are anxious to tell our hprror stories and not our good stories. I am guilty of the same thing, except that I have had few bad experiences, so generally say nothing. In the future I will try to give appropriate creidt to all those helpful clerks, librarians, and people in general. BarbaraA Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Locke <gen-lists@ralii.com> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:27:53 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Woes and Joys of I must admit that being a researcher who has done all of his research in New England, New York has always made me nervous. For one, the whole city/town/village thing is a challenge. I spent today in search of four death certificates. One was reportedly to be found in Harrison and the other three in Scarsdale. I arrived in Harrison armed with my grandmother's statement that her mother, while buried in Greenwich, CT, had died in Harrison while residing in a nursing home. Now, I know we are great at complaining about Town Clerks, but let me just say, that the people in Harrison went WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND in helping me today. Perhaps I got them on a good day, but they, first gave me an education on where death records end up. Apparently, depending on whether someone died at home, on the street, in a nursing home, transferred to a hospital before death, the event could be recorded in one of several different locales. After discovering that this was not going to be simple, the clerks in Harrison ended up calling five other "jurisdictions", where, in each case, the clerk in that locale checked for my great-grandmother's death. After a quick phone call on my part to my mother to confirm the nursing home: the Osburn, literally around the corner from the Harrison Municipal Building, we find that the death is recorded in the "City" of Rye, not the village or town of Rye. So, thanks to the enormous efforts and education from the clerks in Harrison, and a quick drive over to Rye, I had success in a single morning now holding, my great-grandmother, May Harper Ford's death certificate.... Next, I was off to Scarsdale in search of my great-great-grandparents death certificates, and my 3G-grandmother. They were from the years 1895 (Lorena Lindsley (VanCourt) Harper), 1900 (Eliza Ann (Lowry) Harper) and 1917 (Joseph Alexander Harper). Again, the people in Scarsdale could not have been nicer, but, this time I had less success. It turns out that Scarsdale no longer has (or perhaps never had) marriage and death records from 1880 through 1909. They have birth records for the span of time. So I was only able to find the death certificate of my great-great-grandfather, Joseph Alexander Harper, but not his wife Lorena nor his mother Eliza. I did find and view cemetery records maintained at the Reformed Church in Cortlandtown (which pointed me to Scarsdale, as location of death), but there were no "referral" death certificates located in the Town of Cortlandt (I had checked there yesterday). So, one point of this note is to post a thank you to the clerks that I met this day. The second point is to see if anyone has any advice on my stumbling in Scarsdale.... Does anyone know about this date range appearing in state records perhaps? Did some other jurisdiction walk off with the book from Scarsdale? Was there some "disaster" in Scarsdale that destroyed these records? Curiosity is getting to me this evening.... Thanks in advance for any advice, and happy hunting! --Rob -- Robert Locke Vice President, Webmaster, Connecticut Ancestry Society, Inc., http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcas Treasurer, Acting Webmaster, Locke Family Association, http://lockefamilyassociation.org My Genealogy, http://www.ralii.com/genealogy *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I clicked into the free 1880 census index. http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6742&offerid=0%3a679%3a0 When I clicked on the census, they asked if I want Ancestry free for 3 days - the best part was "No Credit Card Needed". So I said yes & put in my old user name & etc. You can make a new one if you are new to Ancestry. WA-LA I have full Ancestry free for 3 days now.. Try it (you'll like it - ha) June :-)

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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:16:00 -0400 From: "Denise Jones" <gtr96@comcast.net> Subject: [NYWESTCH] 1930 census look up To: "Nywestch@Rootsweb.Com" <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <024901c79d44$e4342cb0$6e4bb445@yourd0f670b45a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would like to get a couple of census look ups for my Weiderhold family. I have Ancestry.com but cannot locate either family in the 1930 census, yet I know both were married and had children. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi List, I have found and sent to Denise off-list, information on US Census data for Mathew's family/line from 1880 thru 1930. Also, his WWI draft registration, and his and Mary's SS Death Index data. Regarding the Emersons, I have sent SS Death Index data for Margaret W Emerson and her son Bertram. I found that Bertram was an alum of Virginia Tech and lived and died in California. Also, I found what appears to be a living spouse, who appears to be living with an older brother of Bertram, all needing verification of course. However, there is a current address and telephone number available which I have forwarded to Denise. I could not find anything on Harold with the possible exception of one Harold Emerson boarding in Syracuse in 1930. More information on his parents and/or siblings might help. I can forward any images/data to anyone else who is trying to help Denise. Hope this helps, Don Angevine Bethel, Maine, USA

Hi Denise, This Kathryn would be the daughter of your Henry's brother George . . . I found them quickly in the 1900 and 1910 US Censuses, although beware in 1900 the census taker put Katie's age down as 78 not 7. Go figure. Don Angevine Bethel, Maine, USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:37:59 EDT From: CraftyinFL@aol.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 1930 census look up To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c25.16ded437.33871967@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Kathryn Weiderhold Birth: 19 Feb 1893 in Dobbs Ferry,,Ny, Death: 22 Aug 1957 in Dobbs Ferry,,Ny, Sex: F Father: Mother: Reference: R:6691-1 Changed: 25 Mar 2007 08:03:31 Spouses & Children _William Jordan_ (http://www.gencircles.com/users/yetter/2/data/6690) (Husband) b. About 1890 in East Irvington,,Ny Children: 1. _Margaret Jordan_ (http://www.gencircles.com/users/yetter/2/data/915)

Kathryn Weiderhold Birth: 19 Feb 1893 in Dobbs Ferry,,Ny, Death: 22 Aug 1957 in Dobbs Ferry,,Ny, Sex: F Father: Mother: Reference: R:6691-1 Changed: 25 Mar 2007 08:03:31 Spouses & Children _William Jordan_ (http://www.gencircles.com/users/yetter/2/data/6690) (Husband) b. About 1890 in East Irvington,,Ny Children: 1. _Margaret Jordan_ (http://www.gencircles.com/users/yetter/2/data/915) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

gtr96@comcast.net wrote: >>I would like to get a couple of census look ups for my Weiderhold family. I have Ancestry.com but cannot locate either family in the 1930 census, yet I know both were married and had children. Matthew Weiderhold b.1895 and wife Mary.<< Here's Matthew.... He's indexed as: Mather J Weiderhole with wife Mary, and daughters Muriel and Helen Year: 1930; Census Place: Tarrytown, Westchester, New York; Roll: 1660; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 151; Image: 488.0. There is a Harold C. Emerson, with wife Lucy M. living in Scarsdale, but that's as close as I've come so far with Margaret. Hope this helps, Dianne ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I would like to get a couple of census look ups for my Weiderhold family. I have Ancestry.com but cannot locate either family in the 1930 census, yet I know both were married and had children. Matthew Weiderhold b.1895 and wife Mary. I think there were two maybe three children. There was a son, a daughter Helen babout 1927, and possibly Murial although she may have been born post 1930. Murial is still alive, but too ill to help me. Matthew was an employee of Borden's milk as a delivery man.I know at one point they lived in Dobbs Ferry and I think they never moved from there. Margaret Weiderhold b about 1901 and husband Harold Emerson had possibly son and daughter Bertram and Patricia althogh I am unsure if both were born by 1930. I am unsure his occupation or where they lived although Pat eventually moved to Syracuse where she died. I would appreciate any help, I am at the end of my rope as I know both had children and had to live somewhere. Denise

Are there any online resources where I could do a lookup on the name Sabol/Szabol that may have immigrated to New York (maybe New Jersey) in the year 1885? I checked castlegarden.org, but it seems that site is still in its infancy. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

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Barbara de Mare <barbarademare@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:34:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara de Mare <barbarademare@yahoo.com> Subject: Fwd: Bannerman Castle talk To: Rockland e-mail list <nyrockla@rootsweb.com>, "NYCOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com" <NYCOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com>, "dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com>, Bergen e-mail list <NJBERGEN-L@rootsweb.com>, Connecticut e-mail list <H-CONNECTICUT@H-NET.MSU.EDU>, New Jersey e-mail list <H-NEW-JERSEY@H-NET.MSU.EDU>, Putnam County e-mail list <NYPUTNAM@rootsweb.com>, "ctfairfi-l@rootsweb.com" <ctfairfi-l@rootsweb.com>, Marie Koestler <Marie_Koestler@opentech.net>, Karen Lamberton <karen.lamberton@spyral.net>, "nydutche-l@rootsweb.com" <nydutche-l@rootsweb.com>, "nyorange-l@rootsweb.com" <nyorange-l@rootsweb.com>, Joanne Potanovic <gatehilljo@optonline.net> REMINDER Program for Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 7PM at New City Library Genealogical Society of Rockland County Topic: Bannerman Castle Speaker: Barbara Gottlock co-author of Bannerman Castle. On maps it is Pollopel Island: 6 3/4 acres of mostly rock; 1,000 feet from the eastern shore of the Hudson just north of Cold Spring; 50 miles north of New York City. During the Revolutionary War, patriots unsuccessfully tried to stop the British from advancing north of the island by sinking 106 upright logs tipped in iron points in the Hudson. Later, General George Washington approved plans to use the island as a military prison. The castle's builder, Frank Bannerman VI, was a Scottish patriot, very proud of his descent from one of the few MacDonald's to survive the massacre at Glencoe in 1692. Acting on behalf of the Crown, a rival clan, the Campbells, slaughtered all MacDonald males ages 12-70. One escaped to the hills with the clan banner -- and from that day on, his family name was Bannerman. The Bannerman family immigrated to the United States in 1854, when Frank was three, and settled in Brooklyn. At the close of the Civil War, the U.S. government auctioned off military goods by the ton, mostly to be scrapped for their metal. Young Frank was one of the first to realize that much of what was being sold had a market value higher than scrap. Under his guidance, Bannerman's became the world's largest buyer of surplus military equipment. When they outgrew their store at 501 Broadway in NYC, they looked around for a larger and safer location in which to store their ammunition. Pollopel Island was selected. Frank Bannerman personally designed the island's buildings, docks, turrets, garden walls and moat in the style of old Scottish castles. Almost all of it was done without professional help from architects, engineers and contractors. And all of it was elaborately decorated, from biblical quotations cast into all fireplace mantles, to a shield between the towers with a coat of arms, and a wreath of thistle leaves and flowers. The castle was constructed between 1901 and 1918. It was primarily an ammunitions storage site but the Bannermans summered there too. Attend this interesting talk about a little known architectural wonder and learn about the struggle to maintain its existence. For more information, visit: http://www.hudsonriver.com/bannerman.htm Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/

The list will not take photos...so here is my email without the photo attached. If anyone is interested, please let me know and I can send it to your personal email. Deb I took a picture, back in 1966-67, of the abandoned fields and farms of Lincoln Ave, Purchase, NY...on the part of the road after you cross Anderson Hill Rd. This road was later diverted and the area became the State Univ. of NY in Purchase. Back then it was just fields, and a polo club where there are now corp. headquarters...Pepsico I think, with a scuplture garden? Anderson Hill Rd goes out to King St. which wanders in and out of CT, on it's way up to Armonk. I have found some folks who are interested in this photo. Maybe someone else would like to see it? I scanned the fading photo into my computer. When I took it years ago, a policeman asked if he could be sent a copy. I never sent it of course, and the photo has been sitting in a glass and frame, for 40 years! It's a photo of a brown fence, looking into an overgrown field, with a no trespassing sign on the fence. That area is now SUNY buildings. I don't know if I can attach it to this list. Deb Hanna June Hesler <jhesler@westchesterlibraries.org> wrote: Have you ever wondered about the New York Genealogical & Biographical Society? Just what does it contain and how can you access it? "Research at the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society" with Edward Smith, Director of the Library and Research at the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, will present a program on doing research at this facility. The program is co-sponsored by the Larchmont Public Library and the Westchester Chapter of the Italian Genealogical Group. >As a non-profit educational institution located in New York City, >the G&B, as it is known, collects and makes available information on >genealogy, biography and history, particularly as it relates to the >people of New York State. They maintain one of the principal >genealogical reference libraries in the United States. Although the >G&B is a membership organization, new members are always welcome as >are non-members. > >Come hear about this valuable resource and what records and >information the G&B contains. >The G&B web site is: www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org > Meeting information: Saturday, May 5th at 10 a.m. at the Larchmont Public Library. Program to be held in the Larchmont Village Center which is located behind the library. For directions see the library web site Parking is available on the street and behind the school next door. > >Please contact me if you have any questions either by email or >914-834-2281. > >June Hesler, Reference, Larchmont Public Library and IGG member *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

I'll try again and relate to Mary Ann the "whole story" of my earlier attempt. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Gizzi" <gizzi1213@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) > Depending on how long ago you made your initial request, the TOWN clerk > may not have had access to the VILLAGE clerk's records. The two > positions were combined here in Ossining within the past few years, > although I do not recall exactly when. > > Deborah...in Ossining > > quillpen1 wrote: >> Thanks, Deb. >> >> Yes, Mary Ann is the person I dealt with before......it was a couple of >> years ago if memory serves me right. >> >> Dad used to mention the docotr's name too, I think it was Coburn or >> Colburn >> and this doctor would surely have reported the birth if he was a >> efficient >> as Dad always said. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Deborah Gizzi" <gizzi1213@optonline.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) >> >> >> >>> Ossining has a combined office of Village and Town Clerk. The current >>> clerk is Mary Ann Roberts. >>> >>> Website information can be found here: >>> >>> http://www.villageofossining.org/Cit-e-Access/webpage.cfm?TID=24&TPID=3484 >>> >>> If this is who you dealt with previously, and I'm assuming it is, you >>> may need to check with her to see if she's already checked the village >>> records as well as the town records. >>> >>> quillpen1 wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks so much, Jean Ann. >>>> >>>> I never thought to check with the Village, and the Town Clerk didn't >>>> tell >>>> me......probably because she didn't know either. She was certainly >>>> helpful >>>> otherwise. >>>> >>>> I assume that Dad was born at home because I remember him talking about >>>> being so small because of prematuriy that he was put in a box on the >>>> open >>>> oven door.....wood stove in those days. >>>> >>>> I'll email the Village if I can find a website. >>>> >>>> Maureen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jean Ann Lupinetti" <jeanann@bestweb.net> >>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:04 PM >>>> Subject: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Maureen, >>>>> I know when I was looking for birth and death certificates (several >>>>> years >>>>> ago) I had to check with BOTH the Town of Ossining AND the Village of >>>>> Ossining. >>>>> I grew up on Croton Dam Road, Ossining. I went to Ossining schools >>>>> and >>>>> the address was Ossining but I actually lived in the Town of New >>>>> Castle. >>>>> Jean Ann >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>> [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of quillpen1 >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:18 PM >>>>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >>>>> >>>>> Nancy, >>>>> >>>>> I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I >>>>> had >>>>> help from another lister who lives down there. >>>>> >>>>> However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it >>>>> could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also >>>>> want >>>>> to >>>>> point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton >>>>> Dam >>>>> Rd >>>>> which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always >>>>> referred >>>>> to >>>>> where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. >>>>> >>>>> All comments appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Maureen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> >>>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates >>>>>> obtained >>>>>> from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth >>>>>> Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ >>>>>> are >>>>>> to >>>>>> be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the >>>>>> Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. >>>>>> >>>>>> My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in >>>>>> Eastchester >>>>>> or >>>>>> Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, >>>>>> consists >>>>>> of >>>>>> a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the >>>>>> Village >>>>>> of >>>>>> Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. >>>>>> Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his >>>>>> death >>>>>> (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try >>>>>> the >>>>>> city >>>>>> clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, >>>>>> they >>>>>> were all born at home >>>>>> >>>>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM >>>>>> Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >>>>>>> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >>>>>>> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> town clerks do not know about these records. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >>>>>>> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >>>>>>> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> they are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they >>>>>>> may >>>>>>> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some have been put on the internet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For Westchester County: >>>>>>> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >>>>>>> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> be available to the public in early 2005." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cliff Lamere >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *************************************** >>>>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>>>> *************************************** >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> *************************************** >>>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>>> *************************************** >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Depending on how long ago you made your initial request, the TOWN clerk may not have had access to the VILLAGE clerk's records. The two positions were combined here in Ossining within the past few years, although I do not recall exactly when. Deborah...in Ossining quillpen1 wrote: > Thanks, Deb. > > Yes, Mary Ann is the person I dealt with before......it was a couple of > years ago if memory serves me right. > > Dad used to mention the docotr's name too, I think it was Coburn or Colburn > and this doctor would surely have reported the birth if he was a efficient > as Dad always said. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deborah Gizzi" <gizzi1213@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) > > > >> Ossining has a combined office of Village and Town Clerk. The current >> clerk is Mary Ann Roberts. >> >> Website information can be found here: >> >> http://www.villageofossining.org/Cit-e-Access/webpage.cfm?TID=24&TPID=3484 >> >> If this is who you dealt with previously, and I'm assuming it is, you >> may need to check with her to see if she's already checked the village >> records as well as the town records. >> >> quillpen1 wrote: >> >>> Thanks so much, Jean Ann. >>> >>> I never thought to check with the Village, and the Town Clerk didn't >>> tell >>> me......probably because she didn't know either. She was certainly >>> helpful >>> otherwise. >>> >>> I assume that Dad was born at home because I remember him talking about >>> being so small because of prematuriy that he was put in a box on the open >>> oven door.....wood stove in those days. >>> >>> I'll email the Village if I can find a website. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jean Ann Lupinetti" <jeanann@bestweb.net> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:04 PM >>> Subject: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Maureen, >>>> I know when I was looking for birth and death certificates (several >>>> years >>>> ago) I had to check with BOTH the Town of Ossining AND the Village of >>>> Ossining. >>>> I grew up on Croton Dam Road, Ossining. I went to Ossining schools and >>>> the address was Ossining but I actually lived in the Town of New Castle. >>>> Jean Ann >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>> On Behalf Of quillpen1 >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:18 PM >>>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >>>> >>>> Nancy, >>>> >>>> I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I had >>>> help from another lister who lives down there. >>>> >>>> However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it >>>> could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also want >>>> to >>>> point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton Dam >>>> Rd >>>> which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always referred >>>> to >>>> where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. >>>> >>>> All comments appreciated. >>>> >>>> Maureen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> >>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates >>>>> obtained >>>>> from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth >>>>> Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ >>>>> are >>>>> to >>>>> be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the >>>>> Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. >>>>> >>>>> My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester >>>>> or >>>>> Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, >>>>> consists >>>>> of >>>>> a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village >>>>> of >>>>> Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. >>>>> Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death >>>>> (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the >>>>> city >>>>> clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, >>>>> they >>>>> were all born at home >>>>> >>>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM >>>>> Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >>>>>> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >>>>>> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts >>>>>> the >>>>>> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and >>>>>> town clerks do not know about these records. >>>>>> >>>>>> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >>>>>> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >>>>>> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, >>>>>> the >>>>>> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where >>>>>> they are. >>>>>> >>>>>> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they >>>>>> have >>>>>> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they >>>>>> may >>>>>> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some have been put on the internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> For Westchester County: >>>>>> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >>>>>> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will >>>>>> be available to the public in early 2005." >>>>>> >>>>>> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> Cliff Lamere >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *************************************** >>>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>>> *************************************** >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks, Deb. Yes, Mary Ann is the person I dealt with before......it was a couple of years ago if memory serves me right. Dad used to mention the docotr's name too, I think it was Coburn or Colburn and this doctor would surely have reported the birth if he was a efficient as Dad always said. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Gizzi" <gizzi1213@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) > Ossining has a combined office of Village and Town Clerk. The current > clerk is Mary Ann Roberts. > > Website information can be found here: > > http://www.villageofossining.org/Cit-e-Access/webpage.cfm?TID=24&TPID=3484 > > If this is who you dealt with previously, and I'm assuming it is, you > may need to check with her to see if she's already checked the village > records as well as the town records. > > quillpen1 wrote: >> Thanks so much, Jean Ann. >> >> I never thought to check with the Village, and the Town Clerk didn't >> tell >> me......probably because she didn't know either. She was certainly >> helpful >> otherwise. >> >> I assume that Dad was born at home because I remember him talking about >> being so small because of prematuriy that he was put in a box on the open >> oven door.....wood stove in those days. >> >> I'll email the Village if I can find a website. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jean Ann Lupinetti" <jeanann@bestweb.net> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:04 PM >> Subject: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) >> >> >> >>> Maureen, >>> I know when I was looking for birth and death certificates (several >>> years >>> ago) I had to check with BOTH the Town of Ossining AND the Village of >>> Ossining. >>> I grew up on Croton Dam Road, Ossining. I went to Ossining schools and >>> the address was Ossining but I actually lived in the Town of New Castle. >>> Jean Ann >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of quillpen1 >>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:18 PM >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >>> >>> Nancy, >>> >>> I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I had >>> help from another lister who lives down there. >>> >>> However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it >>> could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also want >>> to >>> point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton Dam >>> Rd >>> which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always referred >>> to >>> where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. >>> >>> All comments appreciated. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >>> >>> >>> >>>> If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates >>>> obtained >>>> from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth >>>> Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ >>>> are >>>> to >>>> be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the >>>> Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. >>>> >>>> My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester >>>> or >>>> Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, >>>> consists >>>> of >>>> a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village >>>> of >>>> Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. >>>> Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death >>>> (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the >>>> city >>>> clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, >>>> they >>>> were all born at home >>>> >>>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM >>>> Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >>>>> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >>>>> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts >>>>> the >>>>> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and >>>>> town clerks do not know about these records. >>>>> >>>>> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >>>>> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >>>>> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, >>>>> the >>>>> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where >>>>> they are. >>>>> >>>>> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they >>>>> have >>>>> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they >>>>> may >>>>> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >>>>> >>>>> Some have been put on the internet. >>>>> >>>>> For Westchester County: >>>>> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >>>>> >>>>> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >>>>> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will >>>>> be available to the public in early 2005." >>>>> >>>>> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >>>>> >>>>> Cliff Lamere >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ossining has a combined office of Village and Town Clerk. The current clerk is Mary Ann Roberts. Website information can be found here: http://www.villageofossining.org/Cit-e-Access/webpage.cfm?TID=24&TPID=3484 If this is who you dealt with previously, and I'm assuming it is, you may need to check with her to see if she's already checked the village records as well as the town records. quillpen1 wrote: > Thanks so much, Jean Ann. > > I never thought to check with the Village, and the Town Clerk didn't tell > me......probably because she didn't know either. She was certainly helpful > otherwise. > > I assume that Dad was born at home because I remember him talking about > being so small because of prematuriy that he was put in a box on the open > oven door.....wood stove in those days. > > I'll email the Village if I can find a website. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Ann Lupinetti" <jeanann@bestweb.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:04 PM > Subject: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) > > > >> Maureen, >> I know when I was looking for birth and death certificates (several years >> ago) I had to check with BOTH the Town of Ossining AND the Village of >> Ossining. >> I grew up on Croton Dam Road, Ossining. I went to Ossining schools and >> the address was Ossining but I actually lived in the Town of New Castle. >> Jean Ann >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of quillpen1 >> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:18 PM >> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >> >> Nancy, >> >> I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I had >> help from another lister who lives down there. >> >> However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it >> could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also want >> to >> point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton Dam >> Rd >> which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always referred to >> where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. >> >> All comments appreciated. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 >> >> >> >>> If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates >>> obtained >>> from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth >>> Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ are >>> to >>> be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the >>> Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. >>> >>> My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester or >>> Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, consists >>> of >>> a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village >>> of >>> Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. >>> Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death >>> (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the >>> city >>> clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, they >>> were all born at home >>> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM >>> Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 >>> >>> >>> >>>> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >>>> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >>>> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts the >>>> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and >>>> town clerks do not know about these records. >>>> >>>> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >>>> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >>>> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, the >>>> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where >>>> they are. >>>> >>>> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they have >>>> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they may >>>> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >>>> >>>> Some have been put on the internet. >>>> >>>> For Westchester County: >>>> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >>>> >>>> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >>>> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will >>>> be available to the public in early 2005." >>>> >>>> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >>>> >>>> Cliff Lamere >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks so much, Jean Ann. I never thought to check with the Village, and the Town Clerk didn't tell me......probably because she didn't know either. She was certainly helpful otherwise. I assume that Dad was born at home because I remember him talking about being so small because of prematuriy that he was put in a box on the open oven door.....wood stove in those days. I'll email the Village if I can find a website. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Ann Lupinetti" <jeanann@bestweb.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] birth before 1900 (Maureen) > > Maureen, > I know when I was looking for birth and death certificates (several years > ago) I had to check with BOTH the Town of Ossining AND the Village of > Ossining. > I grew up on Croton Dam Road, Ossining. I went to Ossining schools and > the address was Ossining but I actually lived in the Town of New Castle. > Jean Ann > > -----Original Message----- > From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of quillpen1 > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:18 PM > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 > > Nancy, > > I had no problem with my mother's birth certificate in NJ although I had > help from another lister who lives down there. > > However when I tried to get Dad's who was born in 1889 in Ossining, it > could not be found. I wasn't charged but I was disappointed. I also want > to > point out that at the time of Dad's birth the family lived on Croton Dam > Rd > which to my knowledge was Town of Ossining although Dad always referred to > where he grew up as Mt Pleasant. > > All comments appreciated. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Davis" <ndavis1@san.rr.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851; birth before 1900 > > >> If this helps someone, I have both my parents' birth certificates >> obtained >> from the towns in which they were born. Printed on my mother's Birth >> Return, For Gen. Research Only, and Note: Birth Returns and all ___ are >> to >> be procured of Town and Village Clerks and Boards of Health, for the >> Registry of Births, Marriages and Deaths. She was b/1893 Peekskill. >> >> My father's (b/1889) was obtained from either the clerk in Eastchester or >> Mt. Vernon -I don't remember which at this late date. However, consists >> of >> a copy of pages from a large ledger: Register of Births in the Village >> of >> Mt Vernon, Town of Eastchester.County of Westchester, State of NY. >> Interestingly, someone pulled Book 1 Pg 69 out and annotated his death >> (11/4/51) but only the date of birth as 1889. At any rate, I'd try the >> city >> clerks in the town in which the person was born or died. And yes, they >> were all born at home >> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:14 AM >> Subject: [NYWESTCH] NYS Vital Records 1847-1851 >> >> >>> School districts in the state were required to collect vital records >>> starting in 1847. The law was not in effect very long. I know some >>> districts collected the records until 1851, but for other districts the >>> records that still exist stop in 1848 or 1849. Many city, village and >>> town clerks do not know about these records. >>> >>> During the Great Depression in this country, the locations of old >>> records in each county around New York State were recorded. Some >>> counties still had the 1847 vital records. For the city of Albany, the >>> City Clerk had them. Today, however, that office does not know where >>> they are. >>> >>> In localities where those records still exist, I suspect that they have >>> been turned over to a local historical society or archive. Or, they may >>> be stored somplace where people seldom look. >>> >>> Some have been put on the internet. >>> >>> For Westchester County: >>> http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/vital_records.htm >>> >>> "Town clerk returns for births, marriages and deaths for 1847 have >>> recently been discovered. They are currently being processed and will >>> be available to the public in early 2005." >>> >>> For Rensselaer County (this is one of many webpages): >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/deaths1.htm >>> >>> Cliff Lamere >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message