The Dutch ship "Onrust" is believed to be the first ship built by Europeans in N. America in 1614. A reproduction of the ship is being built at the historic Mabee Farm here in Schenectady County. A friend of mine, Howie Mittleman, is Lead Ship Carpenter on the project, so I've been putting some time in over there. Amazing stuff. If your a history or sail buff, or just looking for a day trip this summer, swing by and check things out. www.theonrust.com www.mabeefarm.org Charles

I've often wondered that with the surnames AURY and AVERY. When handwritten on a census they look the same. My specific brickwall is Hannah Aury who signed the will of Joseph Gee in 1716 in Westchester with my 7th great grandfather......and major brickwall..... Matthew Smith . The only "Aurys" I'm finding are ORRYS and none are in that area .....very few anywhere that I can find. Averys in comparison were in Westchester in the 1600s and onward. Does anyone know more about this?? Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Cross & Harford children > Friends-- > > When you are looking for the name of Harford, it may be prudent to also > look > for Hanford. The "r" and "n" appear very similar in handwriting. > > George > > > ************************************** > See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elizabeth...these are Peter and Deborah Cross Harford's children: Elizabeth b. 10 Sept 1779 Clara b. 23 Sept 1781 Bertha b. 26 Oct 1783 d. 05 Nov 1783 Thomas b. 20 Apr 1785 Elgin Benson b.19 June 1787 (this name was hard to read on family bible page) John Cross b. 17, Jan 1790 d. 31 Dec 1882 this is my 3x gr grandfather he married Azubah Wood Peter went on the have 7 more children by wife #2 Eunice Ballard. These names were taken from a bible page used to obtain Peter's pension for Rev. War. Thank you for your interest. Maybe Knowlton's connected? Peter's brother was Ephraim Harford of Boutonville area. Sandee

Friends-- When you are looking for the name of Harford, it may be prudent to also look for Hanford. The "r" and "n" appear very similar in handwriting. George ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Sandee, What were her children's names in birth order? Elizabeth W. Knowlton > [Original Message] > From: <nywestch-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/22/2007 3:02:18 AM > Subject: NYWESTCH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 188 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cross & Harford (sandee1937@comcast.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:29:05 +0000 > From: sandee1937@comcast.net > Subject: [NYWESTCH] Cross & Harford > To: NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com (NYWEST) > Message-ID: > <062120072029.6233.467ADF91000781BF000018592216554886C9CCC7CE0A0A0B020E9C@c omcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > My 4xgrgrandmother was Deborah Cross b. 10 Jan 1758 d.abt 1790 in Westchester Co., NY. She mar. Peter Harford on Nov. 26, 1778 in Salem, Westchester Co., NY. They had 6 children before she died shortly after giving birth to my 3xgrgrandfather JOHN CROSS HARFORD. b.Jan. 17, 1790 > Does anyone know who her parents may be? I pretty sure she is buried in the Col. Avery Cem. in Pound Ridge along with some other Cross's who are probably related but too young to be her brothers. This family may be from Cross River area of NY. They did live in Boutonville section which is now Ward Pound Ridge Reservation a state park. Any help would be more than appreciated..Thank you Sandee > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYWESTCH list administrator, send an email to > NYWESTCH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYWESTCH mailing list, send an email to NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYWESTCH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 188 > ****************************************

Is there anyone on this list who is researching the surname Risi in Westchester County? Someone had contacted my cousin concerning their common grandfather and he as since lost the email due to a computer crash. We are hoping to locate that person. Judy Wolf ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

References an Ezra K. Hoyt, (1812 - 1841) as buried in Beck Hill Cemetery on Route 123, opposite St. Paul's Chapel, of the Episcopal Church. No mention of a Martha Hoyt. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks, Robert. Sarah is listed with George Conklin, they are listed with Frank and Susie Knight, it is on p. 255A. Susie Knight is Sarah & George's daughter. Sarah Conklin b. 6/1834 age 65 married 44 years, born Wisconsin (I don't know about the latter; I have her death certificate and it indicates she was b. in Broome Co. NYS, which fits with family history; that she was a member of the Iroquois Nation, Mohawk Tribe, lived in the western part of NYS and was adopted by a Westchester County family as a young girl, her maiden name was Sarah E. Cronk, but I'd love to know her Native American name.) She is buried in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Vail" <rvail1@cfl.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] 1900 census and Special Inquiries Related to Indians > Donna-I have ancestry. I looked and there are no Sarah Conklins listed for > Mt. Pleasant. Gobs of them in Cortlandt. Can you provide her age and who > she > might be with? > > Robert S. Vail > Titusville, FL > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Donna K. Vaughn > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:17 AM > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYWESTCH] 1900 census and Special Inquiries Related to Indians > > Does anyone know how to find the section of the 1900 census called > "Special > Inquiries Related to Indians" which is an additional page of info taken by > the 1900 census takers for Native Americans (asked Indian name, tribe, > etc.)? I have a Native American ancestor, Sarah Conklin, who is listed in > the 1900 Census for Westchester Co., Mount Pleasant, p. 255 A, but I don't > know how to find this special inquiry page for her. It's supposed to be > like a special schedule at the end of the County listings but I don't know > how to find it. I have Heritage Quest, not Ancestry. Can someone please > help me? > > Thanks, > Donna > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Donna-I have ancestry. I looked and there are no Sarah Conklins listed for Mt. Pleasant. Gobs of them in Cortlandt. Can you provide her age and who she might be with? Robert S. Vail Titusville, FL -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donna K. Vaughn Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:17 AM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYWESTCH] 1900 census and Special Inquiries Related to Indians Does anyone know how to find the section of the 1900 census called "Special Inquiries Related to Indians" which is an additional page of info taken by the 1900 census takers for Native Americans (asked Indian name, tribe, etc.)? I have a Native American ancestor, Sarah Conklin, who is listed in the 1900 Census for Westchester Co., Mount Pleasant, p. 255 A, but I don't know how to find this special inquiry page for her. It's supposed to be like a special schedule at the end of the County listings but I don't know how to find it. I have Heritage Quest, not Ancestry. Can someone please help me? Thanks, Donna *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Friend-- Does your Boutonville book have any reference to an Ezra and Martha Hoyt who died after 1840? Thanks, George Hoyt ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Does anyone know how to find the section of the 1900 census called "Special Inquiries Related to Indians" which is an additional page of info taken by the 1900 census takers for Native Americans (asked Indian name, tribe, etc.)? I have a Native American ancestor, Sarah Conklin, who is listed in the 1900 Census for Westchester Co., Mount Pleasant, p. 255 A, but I don't know how to find this special inquiry page for her. It's supposed to be like a special schedule at the end of the County listings but I don't know how to find it. I have Heritage Quest, not Ancestry. Can someone please help me? Thanks, Donna

In a book about the history of the town I live in, (Lewisboro) the chapter titled "Boutonville, The Lost Village" they mention a Ephrain Harford as a landowner in the area (by 1790). John Cross (? - 1815) and Lockwood Cross (? - 1823) are listed as being buried in Avery Cemetery: Pound Ridge Reservation as well as Ephraim Harford (1757 - 1825) and Infant Twin Sons, Harford, Ephraim (1796). Boutonville is an area of South Salem (formerly Salem). ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My 4xgrgrandmother was Deborah Cross b. 10 Jan 1758 d.abt 1790 in Westchester Co., NY. She mar. Peter Harford on Nov. 26, 1778 in Salem, Westchester Co., NY. They had 6 children before she died shortly after giving birth to my 3xgrgrandfather JOHN CROSS HARFORD. b.Jan. 17, 1790 Does anyone know who her parents may be? I pretty sure she is buried in the Col. Avery Cem. in Pound Ridge along with some other Cross's who are probably related but too young to be her brothers. This family may be from Cross River area of NY. They did live in Boutonville section which is now Ward Pound Ridge Reservation a state park. Any help would be more than appreciated..Thank you Sandee

Paul, On www.castlegarden.org I found an Andr. Sabol and an Andras Sabol that came here in the 1880's. I also found the family on the 1920 Census. By that time Mary was widowed, and the children living with her were Anna Sabol, Edward Sabol, and Velma Sabol. A couple of nephews with the last name of Zack were also living in the household. Adrienne >From: Paul Sabol <pgsabol@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >To: NYWESTCH@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYWESTCH] Sabol in Yonkers >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT) > >Does anyone have any information on siblings Velma and Edward Sabol from >Yonkers. They were born sometime around the 1890s or early 1900s to John & >Mary Sabol? John and at least 1 brother Andrej immigrated in the 1880s. >Mary's maiden name may have been Zack, but not 100% sure on that. > > Trying to find any info about this family to see if there were more than >just Andrej & John that came over. > > >--------------------------------- >Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! >Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! >Games. >*************************************** >Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >*************************************** >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507

Thanks, Lynne, they answered my request very promptly, but unfortunately they do not have that particular newspaper. However, they do have a lot of resources there that I wasn't aware of. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne L Bliss" <myfamroots@comcast.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Obituary needed from the Democratic Register March 29, 1924 > Try contacting the Wisconsin State Historical Society. They have an > extensive collection of newspapers from around the countty in their > collection. You may be able to get a copy of it via interlibrary loan or > maybe some kind soul in Wisconsin. > > Lynne Bliss > > Donna K. Vaughn wrote: > >>For several years now, I have tried to get a copy of the obituary of my >>great-grandfather, Mathew MC CABE, who died in Ossining on March 25, 1924. >>I was told by the Ossining Historical Society that his obituary appeared >>in the Democratic Register on March 29, 1924 and that it was a "long >>article." (They have an index card file of obits). Unfortunately, their >>copy of this paper was damaged and they could not provide the actual >>obituary. I have not been able to get this newspaper on microfilm through >>interlibrary loan or through Ossining local libraries, etc. Mathew McCabe >>was an Irish immigrant, a city alderman, vice pres. of the local fire >>company, a prominent member of AOH, etc., so I don't doubt it is a "long >>article"--which makes me try all the harder to get it. >> >>Can someone on this list please help me? I do not live in the Ossining >>area, but if someone can get this obituary for me, I will, in return, be >>willing to do some look-ups for you at the New York State Library and/or >>Archives in Albany, or help you in some other way you may suggest. (The >>State Archives has the indexes for births, marriages and deaths back to >>1881, and the index numbers can then be used to order actual certificates >>from the DOH--or just having the place and date from the index is helpful. >>This index is only available by going in person to Albany or Rochester). >> >>Feel free to forward this as appropriate, to anyone or list that might >>have access to the Democratic Register of March 29, 1924. >> >>Thanks for the help, >>Donna >> >>*************************************** >>Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>*************************************** >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there: One of my grandmother's cousins married a Joseph Sabol in Yonkers in the 1940s. He was the son of George and Dora Sabol, who, according to the 1920 census were born around 1885 in Slovakia. Joseph is buried with his parents and wife in St. Joseph Cemetery in Yonkers. Hope this helps! Bryan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Try contacting the Wisconsin State Historical Society. They have an extensive collection of newspapers from around the countty in their collection. You may be able to get a copy of it via interlibrary loan or maybe some kind soul in Wisconsin. Lynne Bliss Donna K. Vaughn wrote: >For several years now, I have tried to get a copy of the obituary of my great-grandfather, Mathew MC CABE, who died in Ossining on March 25, 1924. I was told by the Ossining Historical Society that his obituary appeared in the Democratic Register on March 29, 1924 and that it was a "long article." (They have an index card file of obits). Unfortunately, their copy of this paper was damaged and they could not provide the actual obituary. I have not been able to get this newspaper on microfilm through interlibrary loan or through Ossining local libraries, etc. Mathew McCabe was an Irish immigrant, a city alderman, vice pres. of the local fire company, a prominent member of AOH, etc., so I don't doubt it is a "long article"--which makes me try all the harder to get it. > >Can someone on this list please help me? I do not live in the Ossining area, but if someone can get this obituary for me, I will, in return, be willing to do some look-ups for you at the New York State Library and/or Archives in Albany, or help you in some other way you may suggest. (The State Archives has the indexes for births, marriages and deaths back to 1881, and the index numbers can then be used to order actual certificates from the DOH--or just having the place and date from the index is helpful. This index is only available by going in person to Albany or Rochester). > >Feel free to forward this as appropriate, to anyone or list that might have access to the Democratic Register of March 29, 1924. > >Thanks for the help, >Donna > >*************************************** >Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >*************************************** >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

They do not dig up old remains in any area cemeteries that I know of. My olderst son is buried with his grandparents here in Dutchess County. There was enough room in their double plot for his urn between their caskets. They adored him and he them and would have been thrilled to share eternity together. Note that I said ETERNITY.....not just until some idiot comes up with a harebrained scheme to dig them up and separate them. My above example of grave sharing is not in any way the same as burying STRANGERS with family members whose plots we have paid for and hold deeds too. Bottom line....... it is land that we own and should have a right to "hold forever" as all deeds state here in NYS. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Jones" <gtr96@comcast.net> To: "Nywestch@Rootsweb.Com" <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Reuse d Graves >I don't find it all surprising except that they don't reuse the graves >presently., This is common practice here in the United States. I was told >by the people at St Mary's cemetery in Port Chester, NY that there are >three spots available currently. I had called to verify which relatives >were interred and was stunned to learn that a great-aunt who died in 1988 >was buried with her parents who died beginning 1920! I asked if she made a >mistake with Margaret's burial date (there were two, my ggrandmother and >her daughter). That is when she told me that after so many years you can >place another body in the grave due to settling. I don't know if they dig >up the old remains or not though. > Denise > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have any information on siblings Velma and Edward Sabol from Yonkers. They were born sometime around the 1890s or early 1900s to John & Mary Sabol? John and at least 1 brother Andrej immigrated in the 1880s. Mary's maiden name may have been Zack, but not 100% sure on that. Trying to find any info about this family to see if there were more than just Andrej & John that came over. --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

I don't find it all surprising except that they don't reuse the graves presently., This is common practice here in the United States. I was told by the people at St Mary's cemetery in Port Chester, NY that there are three spots available currently. I had called to verify which relatives were interred and was stunned to learn that a great-aunt who died in 1988 was buried with her parents who died beginning 1920! I asked if she made a mistake with Margaret's burial date (there were two, my ggrandmother and her daughter). That is when she told me that after so many years you can place another body in the grave due to settling. I don't know if they dig up the old remains or not though. Denise