If you should see a headless Hessian soldier riding through the tunnel on horseback, just let him pass by. He's harmless. On 7/8/07, quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: > > I've seen films where water is rushing thru tunnels too....and with little > holes for trickles as well. > > How high are these tunnels in Ossining?? The water tunnels I've seen were > low...like 3-4 ft high tops.....and the ones in the films were always > solid > concrete. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Regina Haring" <rmharing@att.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure > inOssining > > > > The pictures made me think of water tunnels - though my only knowledge > of > > them is from films! > > Regina Haring > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> > > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure > > inOssining > > > > > >> > >> In a message dated 7/8/2007 12:28:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > >> RickVT@aol.com writes: > >> > >> Could this have been part of the old Croton Aqueduct? > >> > >> > >> Anyone from Ossining know if this is any where near the Aqueduct? > >> > >> In T/ Cortlandt near where I had lived there is building next to > a spot > >> on > >> the Aqueduct which I assume is for maintenance. I never thought about > >> tunnels > >> along it. In that area it is like a long man made steep sided hill > >> (above > >> ground level), with a flat area on top that is wide enough to be driven > >> on. > >> > >> Judy > > > > *************************************** > > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > > *************************************** > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

I've seen films where water is rushing thru tunnels too....and with little holes for trickles as well. How high are these tunnels in Ossining?? The water tunnels I've seen were low...like 3-4 ft high tops.....and the ones in the films were always solid concrete. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Haring" <rmharing@att.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure inOssining > The pictures made me think of water tunnels - though my only knowledge of > them is from films! > Regina Haring > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure > inOssining > > >> >> In a message dated 7/8/2007 12:28:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> RickVT@aol.com writes: >> >> Could this have been part of the old Croton Aqueduct? >> >> >> Anyone from Ossining know if this is any where near the Aqueduct? >> >> In T/ Cortlandt near where I had lived there is building next to a spot >> on >> the Aqueduct which I assume is for maintenance. I never thought about >> tunnels >> along it. In that area it is like a long man made steep sided hill >> (above >> ground level), with a flat area on top that is wide enough to be driven >> on. >> >> Judy > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If water ran thru it once there should be some indication like old water marks or mineral deposits. On the other hand I am not an expert on aqueducts. Question for all: Those "airholes" in the ground that I saw in the pictures and that were mentioned in at least one of the articles I read online after I Googled it recently.....were they made by the people today who went down to look after the discovery?? Or were there "airholes" in the brick from long ago?? Recent would be understandable but if made when the structure was built that would be another puzzle. BTW we had root cellars when I was growing up on the farm and they were never made of anything but dirt. Otherwise the purpose would be defeated. So I ruled out root cellar right away in my guesses.....and why would anyone need a wine cellar that looked like that?? Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <RickVT@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure in Ossining > > Could this have been part of the old Croton Aqueduct? I'm not familiar > with > the area, but maps seem to indicate it ran through that general area. > > Thanks, > Rick > > "1838 > > Work begins in May on an aqueduct to carry water 41 miles to the city > from > the Croton River in northern Westchester. Farmers have resisted, but he > state > legislature at Albany has given the city the right to condemn land for the > acqueduct. West Point engineering professor Major David B. Douglass has > initiated its design and placement, bankers who include the Rothschilds > in Europe > have raised $12 million to finance the project, and by next year some > 4,000 > men will be working on the project. The City Water Commission will > replace > Douglass in 1839 with Erie Canal veteran John B. Jervis, and he will see > the > project through to completion, paying laborers—most of the Irish > immigrants— > 75 cents to $1 per 10-hour day to build a 250-foot-long, 50-foot high dam > that > creates a 400-acre lake six miles above the junction of the Croton and > Hudson rivers with a storage capacity of about 660 million gallons. By > January > 1841 Jervis will have completed about 32 miles of the waterway, including > a > massive 88-foot-long double stone arch bridge across the Sing Sing Kill > in > downtown Ossining and a brick-lined tube consisting of 12 tunnels, each > 8-feet high > and 7-feet wide, with an aggregate length of 4,406 feet." > > > > (from The New York Chronology by James Trager, Published by Harper > Collins, > 2003) > > _http://books.google.com/books?id=xvGhQoNT27IC&pg=PA78&ots=sU_62PtdZP&dq=Ossin > ing+brick+arches&sig=zJ7ru8OMNwumgBnGwA61aVMqgQo#PPP1,M1_ > (http://books.google.com/books?id=xvGhQoNT27IC&pg=PA78&ots=sU_62PtdZP&dq=Ossining+brick+arches&sig > =zJ7ru8OMNwumgBnGwA61aVMqgQo#PPP1,M1) > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The pictures made me think of water tunnels - though my only knowledge of them is from films! Regina Haring ----- Original Message ----- From: <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Road repair unearths massive old structure inOssining > > In a message dated 7/8/2007 12:28:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > RickVT@aol.com writes: > > Could this have been part of the old Croton Aqueduct? > > > Anyone from Ossining know if this is any where near the Aqueduct? > > In T/ Cortlandt near where I had lived there is building next to a spot > on > the Aqueduct which I assume is for maintenance. I never thought about > tunnels > along it. In that area it is like a long man made steep sided hill (above > ground level), with a flat area on top that is wide enough to be driven > on. > > Judy

In a message dated 7/8/2007 12:28:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, RickVT@aol.com writes: Could this have been part of the old Croton Aqueduct? Anyone from Ossining know if this is any where near the Aqueduct? In T/ Cortlandt near where I had lived there is building next to a spot on the Aqueduct which I assume is for maintenance. I never thought about tunnels along it. In that area it is like a long man made steep sided hill (above ground level), with a flat area on top that is wide enough to be driven on. Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Could this have been part of the old Croton Aqueduct? I'm not familiar with the area, but maps seem to indicate it ran through that general area. Thanks, Rick "1838 Work begins in May on an aqueduct to carry water 41 miles to the city from the Croton River in northern Westchester. Farmers have resisted, but he state legislature at Albany has given the city the right to condemn land for the acqueduct. West Point engineering professor Major David B. Douglass has initiated its design and placement, bankers who include the Rothschilds in Europe have raised $12 million to finance the project, and by next year some 4,000 men will be working on the project. The City Water Commission will replace Douglass in 1839 with Erie Canal veteran John B. Jervis, and he will see the project through to completion, paying laborers—most of the Irish immigrants— 75 cents to $1 per 10-hour day to build a 250-foot-long, 50-foot high dam that creates a 400-acre lake six miles above the junction of the Croton and Hudson rivers with a storage capacity of about 660 million gallons. By January 1841 Jervis will have completed about 32 miles of the waterway, including a massive 88-foot-long double stone arch bridge across the Sing Sing Kill in downtown Ossining and a brick-lined tube consisting of 12 tunnels, each 8-feet high and 7-feet wide, with an aggregate length of 4,406 feet." (from The New York Chronology by James Trager, Published by Harper Collins, 2003) _http://books.google.com/books?id=xvGhQoNT27IC&pg=PA78&ots=sU_62PtdZP&dq=Ossin ing+brick+arches&sig=zJ7ru8OMNwumgBnGwA61aVMqgQo#PPP1,M1_ (http://books.google.com/books?id=xvGhQoNT27IC&pg=PA78&ots=sU_62PtdZP&dq=Ossining+brick+arches&sig =zJ7ru8OMNwumgBnGwA61aVMqgQo#PPP1,M1) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 7/8/2007 11:34:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, schoolbell@ulink.net writes: Major Bowes Retreat I am seeing one on 9 Apparatus Rd., Ossining. You mean it used to be somewhere else? Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

This is such an amazing revelation! How many movers and shakers know about it? When it first came up on this List, I thought it related it to a weapons or ammunition depot of olden days... because of WAshington's presence at West Point during the RWar. Along with these thoughts--I found a website in which William Wade, Master engraver, taking the steamer trip from New York to Albany and back in 1846, drew his impressions of the river banks as he traveled each direction. This can be found at http://hhr.highlands.com It's a charming site--I made copies to illustrate relevant chapters in my Family History--giving credit of course.... The Intro--from the website: "This little book is less than six inches tall, but this panorama of the Hudson River opens up in accordion fashion to over six feet. The book presents both sides of the River, but in order to see the west bank right side up, one must turn the book upside down." [northerly is one side of the book, southerly on the reverse side] The text from 'Wade's Panorama' relates to his engravings and has been included--original spelling has been maintained:. A priceless example of the life and times that also inspired The Hudson River School of painting. The page entitled "Bend in the River" is West Point and the site of the chain across the Hudson in 1777 is indicated. "Constitution Island [east bank across from West Point] "divides the Hudson unequally at the bend round the point, the western branch being a marshy shallow. This island, a mass of rock, was defended by batteries on a level with the water, and the glacis formed in the rock bade defiance to trenches. A heavy chain was cramped into the rocks at either end, supported by buoys, stretched across the angle made by the river and formed an effectual bar. This chain prevented the English from ascending the river in their armed ships, and the great object of the works on both sides was to protect it. Twenty pieces of heavy ordnance, discharging grape, menaced those who should attempt to cut a link, with destruction. And the roller on which the chain moved, suffered it to grow slack, thereby preventing any iron beaked vessel from breaking it under the combined forces of wind and tide. As soon as the shock was thus broken, the chain could be immediately made tense, and the vessel must be turned aside and stranded on one or the other shore." Jan jgrellim@sbcglobal.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Ossining > > >> Chain was across Hudson at WEST Point. >> Ed >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Plantinga@aol.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Ossining >> >> >>> >>> In a message dated 7/6/2007 7:21:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> mklaffky@columbus.rr.com writes: >>> >>> the tunnels were apparently originally built as an >>> escape route for G Washington and troops, who had an encampment near by >>> >>> >>> As a young girl traveling by car between Dutchess County and New York >>> City >>> to visit family, my mother would tell us stories to keep us busy. One >>> of >> the >>> stories was about a chain being placed across the Hudson to stop >>> British >>> ships that might come up the Hudson. Wasn't that chain at Ossning? >> Could that >>> have anything to do with the tunnels, etc.? >>> >>> Joan R. Plantinga >>> San Jose, CA >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >>> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found this information at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nydutche/nylaw.htm It helps those who have been denied access to genealogical information at NY sites. Very helpful. Marita Gladson, M.A. MFT Exec. Director Saboba's Hope www.sabobamedicalcentre.net Fullerton, Ca 714-773-5172

Could we perhaps be referring to what became the Major Bowes Retreat? It was once his home. marilyn quillpen1 wrote: > I'm wondering if it could have been a monastary that never got finished. > > In Europe monastaries were often labyrinthine type structures with > underground hallways. > > Your idea is a good one if anyone can find land records. Maybe the OHSM has > them. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Oss > > > >> This seems like it could be solved through land records. >> >> Someone owned the land, someone dug it, someone built the brick structure. >> It must be recorded somewhere?? >> >> Has anyone looked on the 1851 or 1858 County Wall Maps? >> >> On 7/7/07, WOLF6PACK@aol.com <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> In a message dated 7/7/2007 8:36:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> rmharing@att.net writes: >>> >>> >>> While I have no idea what the massive structure in Ossining was for, I >>> can't >>> think that it had anything to do with bricks, sorry. >>> >>> >>> I agree with Regina, I also don't think it was an elaborate part of an >>> escape plan for Washington. >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) >> Upstate New York Genealogy >> website: http://www.unyg.com >> blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ >> blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ >> member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

It sounds like the basement of a large building that got demolished at an earlier date. Has anyone looked at land lot, etc, numbers to see who owned the property at the time period of the bricks. Elizabet

The Historical Society or someone should be able to date the brick and such, I thought I read in the article that it was Mid 1800s which is a bit late for Washington. I hope someone does some study of it! -----Original Message----- From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WOLF6PACK@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:47 PM To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Oss In a message dated 7/7/2007 8:36:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rmharing@att.net writes: While I have no idea what the massive structure in Ossining was for, I can't think that it had anything to do with bricks, sorry. I agree with Regina, I also don't think it was an elaborate part of an escape plan for Washington. Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Get your FREE personalized email signature at My Mail Signature!

I'm wondering if it could have been a monastary that never got finished. In Europe monastaries were often labyrinthine type structures with underground hallways. Your idea is a good one if anyone can find land records. Maybe the OHSM has them. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Oss > This seems like it could be solved through land records. > > Someone owned the land, someone dug it, someone built the brick structure. > It must be recorded somewhere?? > > Has anyone looked on the 1851 or 1858 County Wall Maps? > > On 7/7/07, WOLF6PACK@aol.com <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> In a message dated 7/7/2007 8:36:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> rmharing@att.net writes: >> >> >> While I have no idea what the massive structure in Ossining was for, I >> can't >> think that it had anything to do with bricks, sorry. >> >> >> I agree with Regina, I also don't think it was an elaborate part of an >> escape plan for Washington. >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) > Upstate New York Genealogy > website: http://www.unyg.com > blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ > blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ > member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This seems like it could be solved through land records. Someone owned the land, someone dug it, someone built the brick structure. It must be recorded somewhere?? Has anyone looked on the 1851 or 1858 County Wall Maps? On 7/7/07, WOLF6PACK@aol.com <WOLF6PACK@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/7/2007 8:36:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > rmharing@att.net writes: > > > While I have no idea what the massive structure in Ossining was for, I > can't > think that it had anything to do with bricks, sorry. > > > I agree with Regina, I also don't think it was an elaborate part of an > escape plan for Washington. > > Judy > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

In a message dated 7/7/2007 8:36:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rmharing@att.net writes: While I have no idea what the massive structure in Ossining was for, I can't think that it had anything to do with bricks, sorry. I agree with Regina, I also don't think it was an elaborate part of an escape plan for Washington. Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

The clay for the bricks was dug from the banks of the Hudson, both sides of the river. There was a time when Haverstraw on the west bank had a huge brick industry. The bricks were shipped down the river to the city and metropolitan NJ on barges, not by rail. I have a page on the brick industry on my website Dutch Door Genealogy, under "Other, Historical". There is a brick museum in Haverstraw http://www.haverstrawbrickmuseum.org While I have no idea what the massive structure in Ossining was for, I can't think that it had anything to do with bricks, sorry. Regina Haring http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John E. LaBarre" <thewadd@bestweb.net> To: <NYWESTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Oss > In the 19th and early 20th centuries there were numerous brick factories > along the Hudson north of Ossining all the way past what is now the > Croton Harmon shops. All appeared to be served by the railroad. This may > be one of the basements form this type of business. If someone has > access to Sanbone fire maps that may give an idea of the type of > business that was on that site. One could also try looking at early city > directories as well. > John LaBarre > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM > >

Maureen: Thanks for the info. I will be watching for the mailman. Bill quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> wrote: Hi Bill, He sure did have a wife and children.....he married Sarah Drake d o Samuel Drake and Mary Fowler. Job and Sarah are my 5th g-grandparents same as Solomon and Elizabeth. When Carol sends the Fowler pp from MacKenzie you'll see Mary and Sam on there. They are my 6th g-grandparents. Job had several children one of which was Ann Sherwood my 4th g-grandmother. She married Moses Ward. I would have to look up the dates and also look up Moses Sherwood. I don't know as much about him off the top of my head. I'll try to get the Sherwood pp copied when I go out tomorrow. As I had mentioned, my scanner and copier don't work. Carol told me about one she bought that works great with a laptop like I have now. I'm going to look into it. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > Maureen: > > What can you tell me about Job? All I have is his name with his > brother Solomon and his father Moses. Did he have a wife and children? > Also who was Moses wife and any dates you may have? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > quillpen1 wrote: Thanks for looking , Barbara. > > I also have Job Sherwood, another 5th great grandfather who is Solomon's > brother. Their father is Moses Sherwood, my double 6th g-grandfather. > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD > > >> Bill, I didn't get your attachment. Maureen, I do n't see a Solomon so >> far, but as I keep saying my Sherwoods are a mess. >> >> Barbara >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: quillpen1 >> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:10:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >> >> Barbara, >> >> If you are related to Solomon Sherwood then you are related to me. Please >> let me know. He is my 5th grear grandfather, married Elizabeth Foseur >> (Forshay). >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Forshay" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] SHERWOOD >> >> >>> Barbara: >>> >>> I will attach a family group sheet on Solomon SHERWOOD and his >>> family. Let me know if this is a help or make any corrections that you >>> may >>> have. >>> >>> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Barbara de Mare wrote: Bill, >>> >>> My Sherwoods are from your era or earlier, and from the >>> Connecticut--New >>> York area around Greenwich. There is just no certainty as to the >>> information I haver on any of them. Some of it makes no sense to me >>> from >>> a time-line point of view. 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In the 19th and early 20th centuries there were numerous brick factories along the Hudson north of Ossining all the way past what is now the Croton Harmon shops. All appeared to be served by the railroad. This may be one of the basements form this type of business. If someone has access to Sanbone fire maps that may give an idea of the type of business that was on that site. One could also try looking at early city directories as well. John LaBarre

This is such an amazing revelation! How many 'high muckety mucks' [movers and shakers I mean] know about this? When it first came up on this List, I thought it related it to a weapons or ammunition depot of olden days.... A while back, I found a website in which William Wade, Master engraver, taking the steamer trip from New York to Albany and back in 1846, drew his impressions of the river banks as he traveled each direction. This can be found at http://hhr.highlands.com It's a charming site--I've made copies to illustrate relevant chapters in my Family History. The Intro--from the website: "This little book is less than six inches tall, but this panorama of the Hudson River opens up in accordion fashion to over six feet. The book presents both sides of the River, but in order to see the west bank right side up, one must turn the book upside down." [northerly is one side of the book, southerly on the reverse side] The text from 'Wade's Panorama' relates to his engravings and has been included--original spelling has been maintained:. A priceless example of the life and times that also inspired The Hudson River School of painting. The page entitled "Bend in the River" is West Point and the site of the chain across the Hudson in 1777 is indicated. "Constitution Island [east bank across from West Point] "divides the Hudson unequally at the bend round the point, the western branch being a marshy shallow. This island, a mass of rock, was defended by batteries on a level with the water, and the glacis formed in the rock bade defiance to trenches. A heavy chain was cramped into the rocks at either end, supported by buoys, stretched across the angle made by the river and formed an effectual bar. This chain prevented the English from ascending the river in their armed ships, and the great object of the works on both sides was to protect it. Twenty pieces of heavy ordnance, discharging grape, menaced those who should attempt to cut a link, with destruction. And the roller on which the chain moved, suffered it to grow slack, thereby preventing any iron beaked vessel from breaking it under the combined forces of wind and tide. As soon as the shock was thus broken, the chain could be immediately made tense, and the vessel must be turned aside and stranded on one or the other shore." Jan jgrellim@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Maul" <rowdyrebel@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Ossining > Chain was across Hudson at WEST Point. > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Plantinga@aol.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Ossining > > >> >> In a message dated 7/6/2007 7:21:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> mklaffky@columbus.rr.com writes: >> >> the tunnels were apparently originally built as an >> escape route for G Washington and troops, who had an encampment near by >> >> >> As a young girl traveling by car between Dutchess County and New York >> City >> to visit family, my mother would tell us stories to keep us busy. One of > the >> stories was about a chain being placed across the Hudson to stop British >> ships that might come up the Hudson. Wasn't that chain at Ossning? > Could that >> have anything to do with the tunnels, etc.? >> >> Joan R. Plantinga >> San Jose, CA >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. >> *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chain was across Hudson at WEST Point. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <Plantinga@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] massive old structure in Ossining > > In a message dated 7/6/2007 7:21:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > mklaffky@columbus.rr.com writes: > > the tunnels were apparently originally built as an > escape route for G Washington and troops, who had an encampment near by > > > As a young girl traveling by car between Dutchess County and New York City > to visit family, my mother would tell us stories to keep us busy. One of the > stories was about a chain being placed across the Hudson to stop British > ships that might come up the Hudson. Wasn't that chain at Ossning? Could that > have anything to do with the tunnels, etc.? > > Joan R. Plantinga > San Jose, CA > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message