Correction: I meant Polly for Elizabeth in " Little Women" and other literature. I'm hurrying too much!!LOL. Speaking of Lit, wasn't Elizabeth Barrett Browning called Polly as a pet name?? Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "quillpen1" <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >I never heard Polly used for Mary until I started genealogical research but > saw it often in English Lit, especially poetry, way back when I was in > high > school. > > Wasn't one of the sisters in "Little Women" called Polly for Mary?? Or was > it one of Louisa Alcott's other books?? > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > >> I've frequently heard Nancy for Ann, although was confused until I >> figured >> it out. Polly is still used for Mary, but never heard it used for >> Elizabeth. I guess you can call yourself whatever you want. >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:17:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >> >> Thanks, Barbara. >> >> Nicknames years ago were certainly different than today. My 4th >> g-grandmother, Elizabeth Sherwood Smith had the "pet name" (as they >> called >> it) of Polly. >> My 4th g-grandmother, Ann Sherwood Ward, had the pet name of Nancy. On >> the >> other side of the family my maternal grandmother, Mary Donovan Ryan, was >> always called Mamie. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >> >> >>> Gertrude was mentioned in prior post this heading. I am >>> trying to read what I recently read as a Gertrude nickname-- >>> something totally different. I think it was Charity. >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Historian, genealogist and attorney >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >>> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:04:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >>> >>> You are absolutely right, George. Some of those old censuses have been a >>> nightmare to decipher....and I haven't even scratched the surface with >>> some >>> of the old church books you mentioned. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:45 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >>> >>> >>>> And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent >>>> e-mails. >>>> There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an >>>> old >>>> church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that >>>> Theodore >>>> was a >>>> female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not >>>> careful. >>>> George Hoyt >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************** >>>> Get a sneak peek of >>>> the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I remember that from childhood too, Carol. We had a neighbor named Elizabeth and she was always called Bessie or Bess. Remember that Queen of England centuries ago called "Queen Bess"?? Her real name was Elizabeth. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <cheap@simon.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje - nicknames > Your are right, my husband's grandmother was "Elizabeth Taylor" Heap, and > she was always called Bessie, don't hear that name much anymore > > Thanks, > Carol L. Heap > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That was interesting, Charles. I've bookmarked it. I went thru them all and with some the origins are easy to figure out.....others not so easy. Didn't the Dutch pronounce their W like V same as the Germans?? Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Frank" <frank3@localnet.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:52 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > Guess every guess is good on this. > http://www.hopefarm.com/dutchnam.htm > Other sites list all the others. > Chas. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I never heard Polly used for Mary until I started genealogical research but saw it often in English Lit, especially poetry, way back when I was in high school. Wasn't one of the sisters in "Little Women" called Polly for Mary?? Or was it one of Louisa Alcott's other books?? Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > I've frequently heard Nancy for Ann, although was confused until I figured > it out. Polly is still used for Mary, but never heard it used for > Elizabeth. I guess you can call yourself whatever you want. > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:17:59 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > Thanks, Barbara. > > Nicknames years ago were certainly different than today. My 4th > g-grandmother, Elizabeth Sherwood Smith had the "pet name" (as they called > it) of Polly. > My 4th g-grandmother, Ann Sherwood Ward, had the pet name of Nancy. On the > other side of the family my maternal grandmother, Mary Donovan Ryan, was > always called Mamie. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > >> Gertrude was mentioned in prior post this heading. I am >> trying to read what I recently read as a Gertrude nickname-- >> something totally different. I think it was Charity. >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> >> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:04:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >> >> You are absolutely right, George. Some of those old censuses have been a >> nightmare to decipher....and I haven't even scratched the surface with >> some >> of the old church books you mentioned. >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> >> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >> >> >>> And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent >>> e-mails. >>> There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an >>> old >>> church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that >>> Theodore >>> was a >>> female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not >>> careful. >>> George Hoyt >>> >>> >>> ************************************** >>> Get a sneak peek of >>> the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara, you are correct. "I guess you can call yourself whatever you want." My grandma was Freda Schulz-Hirsch, she hated her name so she was called Rita, Nana Rita to us kids. Thanks, Carol L. Heap

Your are right, my husband's grandmother was "Elizabeth Taylor" Heap, and she was always called Bessie, don't hear that name much anymore Thanks, Carol L. Heap

Guess every guess is good on this. http://www.hopefarm.com/dutchnam.htm Other sites list all the others. Chas.

> > Have any local societies created books from the local newspapers listing > marriages and deaths for Lloyd, Ulster Co. area? I am interested in the > 1820 - 1880 time frame & would like to aquire such books for my family > research. I know Dutchess Historical So. has some of these books and I am > now looking for Ulster Co. area. Thanks, Carol L. Heap

Thanks, Barbara. Nicknames years ago were certainly different than today. My 4th g-grandmother, Elizabeth Sherwood Smith had the "pet name" (as they called it) of Polly. My 4th g-grandmother, Ann Sherwood Ward, had the pet name of Nancy. On the other side of the family my maternal grandmother, Mary Donovan Ryan, was always called Mamie. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > Gertrude was mentioned in prior post this heading. I am > trying to read what I recently read as a Gertrude nickname-- > something totally different. I think it was Charity. > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:04:19 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > You are absolutely right, George. Some of those old censuses have been a > nightmare to decipher....and I haven't even scratched the surface with > some > of the old church books you mentioned. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > >> And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent >> e-mails. >> There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an >> old >> church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that Theodore >> was a >> female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not >> careful. >> George Hoyt >> >> >> ************************************** >> Get a sneak peek of >> the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Except when I call my sister "Messy Bessie," a nickname of Elizabeth I gave her as a kid. Even Betty (her real nickname) isn't that common any more, nor is Beth. Liz seems to be the new favorite for Elizabeth. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: "cheap@simon.com" <cheap@simon.com> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:52:38 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje - nicknames Your are right, my husband's grandmother was "Elizabeth Taylor" Heap, and she was always called Bessie, don't hear that name much anymore Thanks, Carol L. Heap *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've frequently heard Nancy for Ann, although was confused until I figured it out. Polly is still used for Mary, but never heard it used for Elizabeth. I guess you can call yourself whatever you want. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:17:59 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje Thanks, Barbara. Nicknames years ago were certainly different than today. My 4th g-grandmother, Elizabeth Sherwood Smith had the "pet name" (as they called it) of Polly. My 4th g-grandmother, Ann Sherwood Ward, had the pet name of Nancy. On the other side of the family my maternal grandmother, Mary Donovan Ryan, was always called Mamie. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > Gertrude was mentioned in prior post this heading. I am > trying to read what I recently read as a Gertrude nickname-- > something totally different. I think it was Charity. > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:04:19 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > You are absolutely right, George. Some of those old censuses have been a > nightmare to decipher....and I haven't even scratched the surface with > some > of the old church books you mentioned. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > > >> And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent >> e-mails. >> There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an >> old >> church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that Theodore >> was a >> female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not >> careful. >> George Hoyt >> >> >> ************************************** >> Get a sneak peek of >> the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are absolutely right, George. Some of those old censuses have been a nightmare to decipher....and I haven't even scratched the surface with some of the old church books you mentioned. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent e-mails. > There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an old > church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that Theodore > was a > female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not > careful. > George Hoyt > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of > the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent e-mails. There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an old church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that Theodore was a female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not careful. George Hoyt ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

There are lots of old Bailey families in the Dover Plains area of Dutchess County.....many large families of descendants. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "msbailey" <msbailey@eastlink.ca> To: "Pat Wardell" <the.wardells@gte.net> Cc: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Bayly > Hi, > > Original spelling was Bayly, morphed to Bayley. > > Ancestor born 1749 d.1840, Bayly surname on his tombstone. > > Part of the family moved to Rye, from there to Duchess Co. Purchased land > from Delancey. > > thx msb > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Cliff. I have a few poorly glued paperbacks like that. LOL. My legal dictionary falls apart regularly no matter what I do to keep it together. Maybe because it gets so much use....I've found it better for synonyms than most regular dictionaries. Theodora does sound like an old-fashioned name that would be used during that period. I have a great uncle on the Smith side named Theodore. I clutch at all straws and sometimes it works. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje >I have the book "Names, Names, & More Names - Locating Dutch Ancestors > in Colonial America" by Arthur C.M. Kelly (1999). He worked with a lot > of Dutch names as he transcribed Eastern New York Dutch and Lutheran > church records for over 60 books. According to him, Dercktje/Dercktie > and Dirckje/Dirkje and variations mean Theodora. In the book there is > no name beginning with Di- or De- which translates to Dorothy. Most > begin with Do-, a few with Du-, the closest being Dortje. > > It is a valuable book if you don't mind the pages falling out of this > poorly-glued paperback. > > Cliff > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gertrude was mentioned in prior post this heading. I am trying to read what I recently read as a Gertrude nickname-- something totally different. I think it was Charity. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: quillpen1 <quillpen1@optonline.net> To: nywestch@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje You are absolutely right, George. Some of those old censuses have been a nightmare to decipher....and I haven't even scratched the surface with some of the old church books you mentioned. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <GWGEHoyt@aol.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > And just to add a little more to this Theodore name in the recent e-mails. > There is a Hoyt ancestor listed as Theodore Hoyt (in handwriting in an old > church book.) Imagine my surprise when one day I found out that Theodore > was a > female named Theodora !!! Handwriting can do us all in if we are not > careful. > George Hoyt > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of > the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Original spelling was Bayly, morphed to Bayley. Ancestor born 1749 d.1840, Bayly surname on his tombstone. Part of the family moved to Rye, from there to Duchess Co. Purchased land from Delancey. thx msb

Thanks, Charles. I haven't heard the name Dorothy for years......never would have thought of it. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Frank" <frank3@localnet.com> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Dirckje > or it's variations, I believe, is Dutch for Dorthy. > > Chas. > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marita, I've got Alexander Fowler as born 1771, died 1848, son of Dr John (John, Henry, Henry) Fowler, born Eastchester, about 1740, married Hannah d o Benjamin Fowler, lic Dec 5 1764, resided in Eastchester and later in Yonkers where he died in 1803. Is this what you need?? It's from MacKenzie. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marita" <maritag@earthlink.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:37 PM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Daniel Searing >I am seeking information on Daniel Searing, his birth marriage, > wife's name and the birthdates of their children. > The dates I have are estimates. > > > I have the following information: > > > 1 Daniel SEARING > -------------------------------------------------- > Birth: ca 1750, New York > Death: 1800, Westchester, New York > > Abstract of the Title of John Stevens in Bounds in East Chester on > behalf of the New York Industrial Home Association #1 New Your 1851 > FHL 974.727 R21a pg 26-30 > > He served in the Revolutionary War. > Searing, Dan'l, 1742-, Revolutionary War. Searles, Edward, > > He is on the 1790 Census Eastchester, Westchester, New York; Roll: > M637_6; > > His Children: > Mary (ca1784-1835) married no date Alexander Fowler > Jane (ca1782-) unmarried > Charles (ca1786-) need spouses name > Moses (ca1788-) married no date Susannah > Elizabeth no date married no date Augustus Fowler > > > I have my line proven to Alexander Fowler and need to move back > another generation for another DAR supplemental. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Jean Ann. Yes, I do have the complete marriage record of Dercktie and Barent......fact is, you were the one who sent it to me back in 2001. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Ann Lupinetti" <jeanann@bestweb.net> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: [NYWESTCH] Dercktie ( feminine of Dirck) > Hi Maureen, > I have the Sleepy Hollow Church records and they list "given names, with > their equivalents" and Dercktie is listed as the feminine of Derick. > Maureen, do you have the entire record of Dercktie and Barent? It > lists > both of their deceased spouses. > Jean Ann > > -----Original Message----- > From: nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywestch-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of quillpen1 > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:42 PM > To: nywestch@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > > Thanks, Marge. I'll be waiting. > > Hendrick and Hannah's marriage record that I have is the same one you > have, > I think. It states: > > #100, 1732, Namburgh, Hendreck and Smet, Hanna > Marriage date, April 25, 1732, he was born in Dutjes Conti and living in > Mennear of Cortlandt, she was born and living in Phillips Burgh. > > What is the English translation of Dercktie?? I have a Dercktie Smet > marrying a Barent Duyscher.....the Smet would be Smith and her husband > would > > be Barent Dutcher but I don't know what Dercktie stands for in English. > This > > was in Phillipsburg in 1717. > > Maureen > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> > To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF > > >> Thank you again for your reply Maureen. as I said earlier, I have a few >> opinions re the Van AMBURGHs and the Mackenzie Papers too, and will send >> you a report when I have it organised. >> >> I have my disabled mum living with me and mind the two year old grandson >> three days a week, so concentrating on genealogy is a bit hard at the >> moment. >> >> Mum goes in to respite (ie, giving me a break!!) for two weeks at the >> beginning of September, so I will leave the Van AMBURGHs 'til then, and I >> can just keep at it!! >> >> Meanwhile, would love the details of Hendrick's marriage records that you >> have please. >> >> Cheers >> Marg Smith >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >> >> >>> Thanks, Marge. >>> >>> I do have Hannah Smith's and Hendrick Van Amburgh's marriage record. I >>> was >>> a >>> newbie when I acquired that info and was astounded re the mangled >>> spellings. >>> After more than a decade of research nothing about genealogy astounds me >>> anymore.LOL. >>> >>> As I understand it, Abraham was Hannah's only child (and then she died) >>> so >>> I >>> am puzzled now about the Fishkill record. I may have a hard copy of the >>> info >>> I was sent several years ago by a couple of Listers out West. It is on >>> my >>> desktop computer too but I can't access that right now...long story. At >>> the >>> time I had posted a question re Matthew Smith and they answered with >>> info >>> on >>> Hendrick and his second wife. >>> >>> Anything you can contribute to clear up my confusion will be deeply >>> appreciated. >>> >>> BTW I know my Smiths came from somewhere in England as did your father >>> in >>> law Matthew but where and when is a brickwall. >>> >>> Maureen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marg Smith" <msmith47@tpg.com.au> >>> To: <nywestch@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >>> >>> >>>> Thank you for your email Maureen. >>>> I have the baptism and marriage record for Hendrick, as follows: >>>> Baptismal and Marriage Register of the Old Dutch Church of Kingston, >>>> Ulster >>>> County, New York 1660-1809; Transcribed and Edited by Roswell Randall >>>> Hoes >>>> (published in New York 1891; reprinted by Genealogical Publishing, >>>> Baltimore, MD 1980 & 1997) [Hoes B#876] 24 November 1695: Hendrick; >>>> Parents: >>>> Abraa Hendrickse, Annetje Kennef; Sponsors: Dirrick Jansse Schepmoes, >>>> Marytje Schepmoes. >>>> >>>> Hendrick Van AMBURGH married Hannah SMIth at Tarrytown: 25 April 1732: >>>> Hendreck Namburgh, b. in Dutjes Conti, l. on the Mennaer of Cortllandt, >>>> and >>>> Hanna Smet, j. d., b. and l. in Phillips Burgh. >>>> >>>> Children I have recorded are: >>>> 1. Possibly Abraham >>>> 2. Marya. page 68 of the Fishkill Church records shows this: 28 April >>>> 1745 >>>> Marya was baptised. Parents are listed as Hendrick Van Amburgh & Sara >>>> Van >>>> Amburgh, with the witness shown as Hanne Smit.( I believe the wife & >>>> witness >>>> should be reversed!) >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any details you have on son Abraham please, as I >>>> have >>>> no >>>> actual documentation for him. >>>> >>>> I have also found (what I suspect) are errors in the Van AMBURGH pages >>>> of >>>> "Families of the Colonial Manor of Philipsburg", page 733, "van >>>> Amburgh", >>>> by >>>> Grenville Mackenzie, >>>> which I will post soon too. You may be interested in this info, or >>>> additional (baptism for example) info for the CANNIFF / Van AMBURGH >>>> family. >>>> Just let us know. >>>> >>>> My father-in-law (and son) was (and is) Matthew SMITH - but from County >>>> Durham, England >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Marg Smith >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NYWESTCH] CANNIFF KENNIFF AKENIF >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marg, >>>>> >>>>> Hendrick Van Amburgh married my 5th great aunt, Hannah Smith, d o >>>>> Caleb >>>>> Smith and Unknown. >>>>> >>>>> Hannah and Hendrick had a son they named Abraham after his >>>>> grandfather. >>>>> Hannah died young and Hendrick remarried a Dutch woman. The two had >>>>> several >>>>> children some of whom removed Upstate to the Shawngunk area. >>>>> >>>>> I have been following this family for over a decade with little luck. >>>>> My >>>>> primary interest is in the Smith side for I am trying to trace back >>>>> past >>>>> Hannah Smith's grandfather, Matthew Smith. He was residing in >>>>> Eastchester >>>>> in >>>>> 1681 in the home of Thomas Palmer and testified at Thomas' inquest >>>>> (documented) when Thomas drowned at Hellgate. >>>>> >>>>> That's not to say I'm disinterested in the Kennif side.....they are >>>>> related >>>>> to Hannah's son Abraham who is part of my line. >>>>> >>>>> Maureen >>>>> >>>> *************************************** >>>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>>> *************************************** >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> *************************************** >>> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >>> *************************************** >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> *************************************** >> Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ >> *************************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > Have you checked out the Westchester County GenWeb site yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/ > *************************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYWESTCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message