Hi, Please, as a courtesy to others, trim messages that you post to the list so that they are easy to read (and so that they don't exceed the limit, currently set at 40K). I find it helpful in focusing my own thoughts, when replying to others' messages, to quote relevant portions of their messages, starting each line with a greater-than symbol (>). I also show the word <snip> to indicate when I have excised less relevant portions. Bob Stromberg, NYWASHIN-L list administrator Greenwich, NY