Hi Janet, Perhaps it was my post you saw -- I changed my e-mail provider about a year ago and neglected to re-post. My great-grandmother was Mary Elizabeth Hines, born 1862 in North Adams, MA. When she married in 1893 she gave her parents as John HINES and Mary TIERNEY, however, she was orphaned early and grew up in Ft. Edward, NY. In 1870 she was living in the home of Aaron P. Willis; in 1880 she was listed as a servant in the same household. I have not found her on the 1865 census; she was not with Aaron Willis, who at that time was living in Argyle. Close friends in Ft. Edward were the McDOUGALLS (especially Anna McDougall, born Anna WILDER) and the John DURKEES. She was a seamstress, living at a boarding house, at the time of her marriage. On the 1880 census Mary E. said her parents were from Ireland. After she married my very English g-grandfather she changed her story on each census until she eventually had them both born in MA. I have copies of a couple of pictures of Mary E. ca. 1890s , and one of a young man that has the name Thomas Hinds on it (brother, cousin?). And that is all I know of Mary Elizabeth Hines despite the fact that I actually met her when I was a small child. She was nearly 100 when she died. Grandma Hodges (as I knew her) is a great mystery in the family, and my brick wall. The story my father and aunt grew up with was that she was an orphan of Scottish descent, and had no idea who her parents were. She was the mother of her Methodist church. Instead, my research has shown she knew her parents names, and is pointing to Irish Catholic (causing much consternation in the family). I have found no birth record for Mary E. anywhere in the northeast US, or marriage record for her parents. In fact, I've yet to find a suitable Mary Tierney in the records; there were many MTs, but none have tracked out. The same is true of John Hines; I have found one possible in Warrensburgh, NY in 1860, an Irish immigrant. I lost track of him after that. So, there you have it. My gut tells me perhaps Mary E.'s parents never made it to the altar, her mother died in childbirth or shortly thereafter, and her father either died or took off. If her birth had been legitimate and she had been orphaned, I would have thought she would have been taken in by family, which was not the case. Of course, I have no proof of any of this, it's just the speculation of the frustrated. Does any of it sound familiar???? You can contact me off-list. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:26 AM Subject: [NYWASHIN] HINDS/HINES > Hi List, > > I noticed HINDS/HINES posted on the surname list on the Washington > County Web site. I emailed the person, but my message failed to be sent. > > I'm hoping that the person may be on this list. Or, does anyone else > have interest in this surname or know anything about them? > > I just recently discovered that my ggg grandmother's maiden name was > HINDS/HINES. All I know is that she married a man whose surname was > Mitchell. > > Thank you, > > Janet > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx