Hi Nancy, I am sorry but the only other man with the surname of Spring, besides Ephriam Spring, whom I find in my tax lists is a man named Josiah Spring. Josiah first shows up on the 1887 Ballstown District Tax List and he is there again in 1788. That does not mean that Nathaniel Spring (father and/or son) are not residing in the Hoosick Tax District of Albany County in 1779, just means that they are not paying real estate taxes. I ran the surname of Spring through Heritage Quest for the 1790 and 1800 U.S. Census Returns and received the following information. I hope that it helps, Leslie > SPRING, CRISTIAN (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, ALBANY, RENSSELAERWICK, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, EPHRAIM (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, WASHINGTON, GRANVILLE, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, JOHN (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, ALBANY, RENSSELAERWICK, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, JOHN (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, WASHINGTON, GRANVILLE, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, JOSIAH C (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, ALBANY, BALLSTOWN, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, MARY (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, ALBANY, RENSSELAERWICK, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, NATHL (1790 U.S. Census) > NY, ALBANY, STEPHENTOWN, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, EBENEZER (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, ONTARIO, BLOOMFIELD, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, EPHRAIM (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, DELAWARE, FRANKLIN, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, EPHRAIM JR (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, DELAWARE, FRANKLIN, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, JOHN (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, CAYUGA, AURELIUS, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, NATHANIEL (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, RENSSELAER, STEPHEN, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, STEPHEN (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, KINGS, FLATLANDS, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, THOMAS (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, HERKIMER, LITCHFIELD, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SPRING, ZEPHANIAH (1800 U.S. Census) > NY, WASHINGTON, HARTFORD, > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >

Greetings list!! Leslie - at one point you found one of my ancestors, Ephraim Spring, in the Hoosick Tax list. Would you look to see if you have Nathaniel Spring (father and/or son) in any of those lists? Thanks ever so much - Nancy **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

Ann, I stand corrected. I was quoting a secondary source that dealt with the emigration of the Rev. Thomas Clark's congregation, which apparently was not accurate when it came to Washington County geography. I have found one other glitch in the geographic references in that secondary source, which were easily explained and turned out to be actually logical after doing some rather extensive research into the historic geography. When consulting Covens, Mortimer and Coven, Jr.'s map of townships east of Lake Champlain laid down by New Hampshire and New York, dated 1778, it would appear that White Creek was in the Hoosick Tax District of Albany County and New Perth, a/k/a Salem was located in Charlotte County, which had been created from Albany County in 1772. (Coven, Mortimer and Coven, Jr.'s map is available at the Library of Congress. The Call number written on the manuscript is G3710 1780 C.6. Vault) Joseph Lambert's name does not appear on any of Albany County Tax District Lists that I have for tax act, which was enacted on October 23, 1779. His name is not on the list of Turner Patent residents in 1789 as found on page 123 of Johnson's History of Washington County, NY. According to the 1790 U.S. Census Return available through Heritage Quest On Line, there are five men living in the United States, who bear the name Joseph Lambert and none of those five (5) men live in New York State - let alone Salem, Washington County, NY. (However the two, who live in Massachusetts do live in Salem, Essex County, MA.) In 1800 the U.S. Census Return cites 7 men with the name of Joseph Lambert, but again none of them are living in New York State In 1810 the U.S. Census Return cites 3 men with the name of Joseph Lambert and only one lives in New York State and his is down in Westchester County. In 1820 the U.S. Census Return cites 11 men with the name of Joseph Lambert and three live in New York State. One in Tomkins County and two in Westchester County. Granted the U.S. Census transcriptions available through Heritage Quest are not always completely accurate, but.... So leaving the historic geography issues aside, I do not know what to say to Eileen. Leslie

Leslie, I don't think I really need to know when the town of White Creek became known as Salem, but I appreciate your offer to look it up. My main thing is to find out more about the Lambert family. I have been at the same place with them for several years. Thank you again. Eileen

I didn't think that White Creek was ever known as Salem. It is part of the village of Cambridge. Salem is 20 miles from White Creek. Salem was the home of the White Creek Revolutionary Militia in 1776. Ann

Hi Joan, Sorry it took so long to get your message, but I've been away all summer at our camp. I do have a book that includes Greenmount Cemetery if you are still interested in the look up. Rosemary In a message dated 6/26/2008 2:54:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JOMARIE37@webtv.net writes: Is there a cemetery book for Greenmount cemetery in Whitehall ? I am looking for lookups in that cemetery, if you can help,please e-mail me off the list at. jomarie37@webtv.net Thank you, Joan H. Bixby Genealogy not just a hobby, but a labor of love. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

Corrected text: Yes, White Creek is one of the old names for Salem. Some called the place White Creek, but the Rev. Thomas Clark's congregation called it New Perth. So the inhabitants later chose to compromise and agreed to call it Salem. I would have to dig to find the date on which they all agreed to call the place Salem. If you need it I shall dig it up for you. I apologize for my typo.

Eileen, Yes, White Creek is one of the old names for Salem. Some called the place White Creed, but the Rev. Thomas Clark's congregation called it New Perth. So the inhabitants later chose to compromise and agreed to call it Salem. I would have to dig to find the date on which they all agreed to call the place Salem. If you need it I shall dig it up for you. Leslie

I am looking for information on Joseph Lambert. His marriage record says he was born in Salem, Washington, NY. His death certificate says born White Creek. Are these two places one and the same (or perhaps near each other)? Married 02 Dec 1834 in Manchester, Bennington, VT. Died 08 Nov, 1870 in Dorset, VT. His parents were James Lambert and Jerusha (last name unknown). Can anyone give me any information on a Lambert family in White Creek or Salem, NY. Oh yes, Joseph was born 27 Dec 1811 (calculated from date of death). I know census records were sketchy in the early 1800's but would there maybe be tax records? Thanks for any help you may be able to give Eileen

The area that became known as Salem, Washington County, NY was part of Charlotte County, NY. Charlotte County was created out of Albany County in 1772. Charlotte County did not include either the eastern half of the Saratoga Tax District or the Cambridge Tax District, both of which remained part of Albany County until February 7, 1791. On February 7, 1791, the aforementioned Albany County Tax Districts were added to Washington County and Saratoga and Rensselaer Counties were created. Charlotte County and Washington County did not cover the exact same geographical area. As I said earlier, I do not have any real estate tax records for Charlotte County, but I do have records for a fair number of the Albany County Tax Districts. In "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State" by James A. Roberts, Comptroller of the State of New York, a man by the name of Samuel Slarrow is listed has having received Bounty Land Rights in payment for his military service in the Charlotte County Militia during the Rev. War. (please see Volume I page 239) Samuel Slarrow is the only man with that surname listed in "New York in the Revolultion as Colony and State".

Thank you for your response Joseph Slarrow is buried in the Revolutionary Cemetery in Salem, Washington Co.,NY 1784 and is the brother of Jane Slarrow. Jane is Samuel Clarks mother. Samuel and his wife Sarah McClung lived in the Cambridge Tax District before relocating to Cayuga Co. Samuel had brothers and sisters who were born with him in Holden,MA.and I have been searching for them. Samuel's parents were also found in Cayuga Co.,NY with a David Slarrow,Jane's brother. I'm sorry this rambles and is confusing. Robert Clark IN. -----Original Message----- From: nywashin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywashin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leslie B. Potter Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:01 PM To: nywashin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWASHIN] Salem town information CLARK and SLARROW Samuel Clark is recorded as a resident of the Cambridge Tax District of Albany County NY in October of 1779. (Please see: 1779 Cambridge District, Albany County, NY Tax List Transcribed by Leslie B. Potter 2/17/04 and posted on the Washington County Gen Web site New York State Library call number: KT 13324 GY Lansing Papers Box 1 file 2 New York State Library at Albany, NY) I did not find anyone named Slarrow on the 1779 Cambridge District Tax List. Perhaps Joseph Slarrow lived in one of the adjoining Albany County Tax Districts or across the line in Charlotte County. I have never looked for tax records for Charlotte County, so I do not know if any are still in existence. The Clark referred to in the e-mail, which you cited, was the Rev. Thomas Clark, MD, who brought his congregation from Ireland to settle in what later became Salem, Washington County, NY. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Patrick The time frame is good, but my Clarkes came from England Robert Clark -----Original Message----- From: nywashin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywashin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:58 PM To: nywashin@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYWASHIN] Salem town information CLARK and SLARROW Bob; Following is the preceding paragraph of the paragraph of your interest, with the name you requested. Meanwhile the Reverand (Dr.) Thomas Clark of Ballibay, Ireland fled Irish persecution with his followers and arrived in America in the summer of 1764. The group temporarily settled at Stillwater, New York, while waiting to find a suitable home. Dr Clark came upon "Whitecreek" in the summer of 1765. Patrick just keep reading into the next paragraph. "Clark apparently liked the area, for in Sept of 1765, Delancey and Dubois deeded their property to him. The Irish immigrants then came to settle "New Perth" , the name given to the New territory by Clark and his followers ........................................................... They were also divided when it came to the name of the new settlement. The Irish called it "New Perth" ; the massachusetts settlers called it "White Creek" This difference was not resolved until 1788, when, as a compromise, it was named Salem.From "An introduction to Historic Resources in Washington County, New York" by The Washington County Planning Dept. 1976. Patrick an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Samuel Clark is recorded as a resident of the Cambridge Tax District of Albany County NY in October of 1779. (Please see: 1779 Cambridge District, Albany County, NY Tax List Transcribed by Leslie B. Potter 2/17/04 and posted on the Washington County Gen Web site New York State Library call number: KT 13324 GY Lansing Papers Box 1 file 2 New York State Library at Albany, NY) I did not find anyone named Slarrow on the 1779 Cambridge District Tax List. Perhaps Joseph Slarrow lived in one of the adjoining Albany County Tax Districts or across the line in Charlotte County. I have never looked for tax records for Charlotte County, so I do not know if any are still in existence. The Clark referred to in the e-mail, which you cited, was the Rev. Thomas Clark, MD, who brought his congregation from Ireland to settle in what later became Salem, Washington County, NY.

Patrick Who was the Clark mentioned in this email? My Clark family settled in Washington County in 1763 or soon thereafter. Samuel Clark settled on the Cambridge Patent. His mother was Jane Slarrow who had a brother Joseph Slarrow buried at Salem Revolutionary War Cemetery in 1784. Bob Clark -----Original Message----- From: nywashin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nywashin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:58 PM To: nywashin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYWASHIN] Salem town information Darrell Here You go! "Clark apparently liked the area, for in Sept of 1765, Delancey and Dubois deeded their property to him. The Irish immigrants then came to settle "New Perth" , the name given to the New territory by Clark and his followers ........................................................... They were also divided when it came to the name of the new settlement. The Irish called it "New Perth" ; the massachusetts settlers called it "White Creek" This difference was not resolved until 1788, when, as a compromise, it was named Salem." >From "An introduction to Historic Resources in Washington County, New York" by The Washington County Planning Dept. 1976. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> To: <nywashin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: [NYWASHIN] Salem town information ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob; Following is the preceding paragraph of the paragraph of your interest, with the name you requested. Meanwhile the Reverand (Dr.) Thomas Clark of Ballibay, Ireland fled Irish persecution with his followers and arrived in America in the summer of 1764. The group temporarily settled at Stillwater, New York, while waiting to find a suitable home. Dr Clark came upon "Whitecreek" in the summer of 1765. Patrick just keep reading into the next paragraph. "Clark apparently liked the area, for in Sept of 1765, Delancey and Dubois deeded their property to him. The Irish immigrants then came to settle "New Perth" , the name given to the New territory by Clark and his followers ........................................................... They were also divided when it came to the name of the new settlement. The Irish called it "New Perth" ; the massachusetts settlers called it "White Creek" This difference was not resolved until 1788, when, as a compromise, it was named Salem.From "An introduction to Historic Resources in Washington County, New York" by The Washington County Planning Dept. 1976. Patrick an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's interesting, Leslie. Thanks for posting it. My impression of what you've said before is that this is a contingent from Europe? I wonder how one distinguishes between the James and John Rogers listed here and those of the same name who came from Rhode Island. I'm not asking you to answer this question (unless it's an easy answer, of course!), but I'm wondering just how confusing some of this is and how anyone has sorted it out. Patti On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Leslie B. Potter wrote: > Dear List, > > Here is the entire list of passengers, who came to the Saratoga Patent > with the Rev. Thomas Clark, MD in 1764. While some remained in the > Saratoga Patent, most followed the Rev. Clark to Salem in c. 1765. > Those who stayed in the Saratoga Tax District have an * next to their > name. I have also added several other annotations to the list. > > If you want the full citation for the monograph entitled "Full > Circle", > please contact me off list. > > Leslie > >> Full Circle at page 372 >> Appendix 2 -- Adult male members of Thomas Clark's congregation who >> moved to Salem in 1764: >> >> Achinlocht, Archibald >> >> Armstrong, Robert >> >> Armstrong, Thomas >> >> Bruce, Michael >> >> Buchanan, Thomas >> >> Buchanan, William >> >> Caldwell, Robert >> >> Cantlin, Edward >> >> Clark, Thomas -- The Rev. MD >> >> Clark, Robert -- Brother of Thomas >> >> Clark, James -- nephews of Thomas emigrated with their mother >> >> Clark, John - nephews of Thomas emigrated with their mother >> >> Clorigham, John >> >> Craig, James >> >> Craig, John >> >> Craven, John >> >> Creighton, John >> >> Cruickshank, Alexander >> >> Donaldson, Robert >> >> Dunlop, John >> >> Dunlop, Robert >> >> Fleck, John (Elder in US) - >> >> Ford, William >> >> Forster, John >> >> Forster, Robert >> >> Forster, Thomas >> >> Getty, James >> >> Getty, Robert >> >> Gibson, John >> >> Gibson, Thomas >> >> Gillespie, John >> >> Guthrie, William >> >> Hanna, David (Elder in US) >> >> Harper, Andrew >> >> Harper, Robert >> >> Harsha, James (Elder in US) -- died about 6 months after arriving in >> the Saratoga Patent. >> >> The Widow Harsha remained in the Saratoga >> Patent and was listed as a >> taxpayer on the 3/2/1779 SD tax list, while >> her eldest son, John, went to Salem >> with Clark. After >> her death, her son, Hugh Harsha, became a SD taxpayer. >> >> Hart, Gosper >> >> Hawthorn, John >> >> Heart, James; >> >> Hoy, Richard >> >> Hutchinson, Crozier >> >> Jamieson, John >> >> Johnston, James >> >> Johnston Robert >> >> Kell, George >> >> Little, William >> >> Livingston, John >> >> Lytle, Andrew >> >> Lytle, James >> >> MacChesney, William >> >> Mackee, David >> >> MacNish, John >> >> Mason, David >> >> Mathew, William (Elder in US) >> >> McCarthy, Moses* >> >> McChancan, Andrew* >> >> McComb, John >> >> McCrea, John >> >> McCrea Thomas >> >> McGee, William* - 1779 Saratoga District Taxpayer >> >> Mitchel, James >> >> Mohanney, Jacob* >> >> Moor, James >> >> Mullen, James >> >> Murray, James >> >> Nelson, Joseph >> >> Oswald, George >> >> Reynolds, Andrew >> >> Reynolds, William >> >> Rogers, James* >> >> Rogers, John >> >> Rowan, Stephen >> >> Rowland, John >> >> Scott, Thomas >> >> Sharp, Robert >> >> Stewart, Alexander >> >> Stewart, William >> >> Taylor, John >> >> Taylor, Joseph >> >> Thomas, John >> >> Thompson, John >> >> Thompson, William (Elder in US >> >> Todd, Archibald >> >> Tomb, David (Elder in US) >> >> Turner, James >> >> White, John >> >> White, John Jr. >> >> Wilson, James >> >> Wilson, John >> >> Wilson Robert >> >> Young, Alexander >> >> Young, James >> >> >> * Believed to have stayed in the Saratoga Tax District and their >> names do in fact appear on the 1779 Saratoga District Tax Lists. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Source, Ticonderoga Sentinel--Thur. May 4, 1944. LAST RITES ARE HELD FOR FORMER TEACHER. WHITEHALL--Funeral services for Mrs. Mandane Holt Carpenter, 66, native of Keene and sister of Mrs. Clark Howe of Plattsburg,were conducted from her home here Tuesday. Interment was in Greenmount Cemetery. Mrs. Carpenter was born in Keene, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Charles Holt. She attended Westport High school, and taught in district schools at Lake Placid, Keene and Lewis before her marriage. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby Genealogy not just a hobby, but a labor of love.

Source, Ticonderoga Sentinel--Thur.June 18, 1908. WHITEHALL, N.Y. Page 1--Andrew Rodd, a six-year-old Whitehall boy, was struck and killed by a hand car a few days ago. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby Genealogy not just a hobby, but a labor of love.

Source, Ticonderoga Sentinel--Thur. Mar. 2, 1905. MARRIAGE--Parker & Parker, at South Granville, Feb. 1, 1905, by Rev. J. Burt Webster, Charles A. Parker and Hattie H. Parker, both of Putnam. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby Genealogy not just a hobby, but a labor of love.

Dear List, Here is the entire list of passengers, who came to the Saratoga Patent with the Rev. Thomas Clark, MD in 1764. While some remained in the Saratoga Patent, most followed the Rev. Clark to Salem in c. 1765. Those who stayed in the Saratoga Tax District have an * next to their name. I have also added several other annotations to the list. If you want the full citation for the monograph entitled "Full Circle", please contact me off list. Leslie > Full Circle at page 372 > Appendix 2 -- Adult male members of Thomas Clark's congregation who > moved to Salem in 1764: > > Achinlocht, Archibald > > Armstrong, Robert > > Armstrong, Thomas > > Bruce, Michael > > Buchanan, Thomas > > Buchanan, William > > Caldwell, Robert > > Cantlin, Edward > > Clark, Thomas -- The Rev. MD > > Clark, Robert -- Brother of Thomas > > Clark, James -- nephews of Thomas emigrated with their mother > > Clark, John - nephews of Thomas emigrated with their mother > > Clorigham, John > > Craig, James > > Craig, John > > Craven, John > > Creighton, John > > Cruickshank, Alexander > > Donaldson, Robert > > Dunlop, John > > Dunlop, Robert > > Fleck, John (Elder in US) - > > Ford, William > > Forster, John > > Forster, Robert > > Forster, Thomas > > Getty, James > > Getty, Robert > > Gibson, John > > Gibson, Thomas > > Gillespie, John > > Guthrie, William > > Hanna, David (Elder in US) > > Harper, Andrew > > Harper, Robert > > Harsha, James (Elder in US) -- died about 6 months after arriving in > the Saratoga Patent. > > The Widow Harsha remained in the Saratoga > Patent and was listed as a > taxpayer on the 3/2/1779 SD tax list, while > her eldest son, John, went to Salem > with Clark. After > her death, her son, Hugh Harsha, became a SD taxpayer. > > Hart, Gosper > > Hawthorn, John > > Heart, James; > > Hoy, Richard > > Hutchinson, Crozier > > Jamieson, John > > Johnston, James > > Johnston Robert > > Kell, George > > Little, William > > Livingston, John > > Lytle, Andrew > > Lytle, James > > MacChesney, William > > Mackee, David > > MacNish, John > > Mason, David > > Mathew, William (Elder in US) > > McCarthy, Moses* > > McChancan, Andrew* > > McComb, John > > McCrea, John > > McCrea Thomas > > McGee, William* - 1779 Saratoga District Taxpayer > > Mitchel, James > > Mohanney, Jacob* > > Moor, James > > Mullen, James > > Murray, James > > Nelson, Joseph > > Oswald, George > > Reynolds, Andrew > > Reynolds, William > > Rogers, James* > > Rogers, John > > Rowan, Stephen > > Rowland, John > > Scott, Thomas > > Sharp, Robert > > Stewart, Alexander > > Stewart, William > > Taylor, John > > Taylor, Joseph > > Thomas, John > > Thompson, John > > Thompson, William (Elder in US > > Todd, Archibald > > Tomb, David (Elder in US) > > Turner, James > > White, John > > White, John Jr. > > Wilson, James > > Wilson, John > > Wilson Robert > > Young, Alexander > > Young, James > > > * Believed to have stayed in the Saratoga Tax District and their > names do in fact appear on the 1779 Saratoga District Tax Lists. >