Hi There are a number of them, I will scan the pages and send them direct to you. Dale McKinley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: [NYWASHIN] RACE LISTINGS > Would someone check in the book "Granville Cemetery Inscriptions Washington > County" by Margaret R. Jenks for any listings for the RACE family. I would > appreciate any help that you can offer. > > Thank you > Cheryl > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi I have found Agnes in 1930, but not yet in 1920. I see that she was by South Glens Falls, actually Moreau Township, Saratoga County, NY. I will send you a copy of the page if you do not have it. Dale McKinley glad to help ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Szig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: [NYWASHIN] 1920 request - WASHBURN -HUNT > Would some kind soul who has access to an everyname index of the 1920 > Census for Washington Co, NY . OR the soundex for that census, > please check for the following individuals: > AGNES HUNT WASHBURN my Grandmother about age 43 > EDITH B. WASHBURN my Mother age 20 > KENNETH (KEN OR GEORGE) WASHBURN my Uncle age 10 > > Agnes would not be Head of household but would be living with > friends. I have been told they were in Hudson Falls, NY, but have > read that census and did not find them. > Mother recently passed away at age 104 ( 3 months shy of 105). > > Help would be appreciated... ESPECIALLY PAGE #, LOCATION , ETC > Jackie in VA > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Dear Mike and List, Michael McAlonie wrote: >1. if someone owned more than one piece of property in 1779 would they appear more than once on the Cambridge district tax lists, or just the one time. Wondering if I am looking at two people with a common name or possibly only one individual who was said to own more than one farm. > You are looking at two different men. In the 18th Century the "English common law rule" was that each man was taxed on all of the land that he owned, wherever it might be situate, in the Township or Tax District in which he lived. The New York "quirk" to this general rule seems to be that the names of the members of the wealthy Dutch Patroon might be found on the tax lists of districts in which they had LARGE holdings as well as the tax district in which they also lived. >2. if someone is on that 1779 Cambridge district tax list as owning real estate is it common to not find any deeds in Albany or Ft Edward for them back to that year? > NO ONE IN NEW YORK STATE OWNS THEIR LAND UNTIL 1841, when the New York Legislature FINALLY abolished the medieval Dutch Patroon system. The people on the 1779 Cambridge District Tax List were all tenant farmers. Most to them possessed freehold leases, i.e. a lease for an indefinite time period, and therefore were legally capable of being recorded. However, because these instruments were leases and not fee simple deeds as the New Englanders were used to, they simply did not bother to record their leases. You will find some early conveyancing instruments that read like English common law deeds, but the legal effect of these documents is still a medieval Dutch freehold lease dressed up in English common law terms of art. Whether a tenant was required to pay the real estate taxes on the farm which he occupied depended solely on the terms of his lease. Very few of the leases from before the Revolution survive. Leases do not leave the paper trail that a deed does even though a tenant farmer could legally sell his lease to another settler. Howard Swain of the "Dutch Colonies mailing list" sent me the following e-mail after I had volunteered to do look ups in my newly acquired book, "Calendar of New York Colonial Manuscripts - Indorsed Land Papers (1643-1803)". Howard wrote: > I have never understood what these "Indorsed Land Papers" are and > how they relate or compare to other land records, such as those cited > by Stokes in his Iconography or those in account books GG, HH, II, > which were published as New York Historical Mss.: Dutch -- Land Papers. > > I have had good luck finding people I research in Stokes or the > GG, HH, II book, but not in this Indorsed Land Papers book. I have never seen, let alone used the books to which Howard refers. Has anyone on the Washington County mailing list had experience with the books that Howard cites? I am always looking for more potential sources of freehold leases for the Saratoga Tax District of Albany County, NY. Hope that this helps some. Leslie Potter

Dear Mike and List, Michael McAlonie wrote: >I have followed some Cambridge deeds (Cambridge lots 44 and 66) back to land sold by an Abraham J Lansingh (and wife Catherine) in the 1770-80s to some Mushets and separately to an Elisha Brewer. When I then look for Lansingh in the grantee indexes there is a deed between Abraham J Lansingh and a John Clark (grantee) 7 June 1773 , notes said "Land 2000 acres , 10 miles E. from South Bay, Charlotte County" > >can anyone tell me if that land would be the Cambridge township area? > >Thanks, Mike > On page 382 of the Calendar of Colonial New York Manuscripts - Indorsed Land Papers (1643-1803) the following item appears: October 9, 1765 - Petition of Quartermaster John Clark, for 2,000 acres of land, to the west of land laid out for Sir John St. Clair, Lieuts. James Dow and Archd. Blane. Vol XX page 9 On page 521 of the Calendar of Colonial New York Manuscripts - Indorsed Land Papers (1643-1803) the following item appears: "March 6, 1771 - Return of survey for John Clark, a tract of 2,000 acres of land, in the county of Albany, ten miles east from South bay, (Castleton, Rutland Co., Vermont) - Vol. XXVII page 84 Map of the same - Vol. XXVII page 84 I suspect that the New York State Archives would be able to supply you with more detailed information on this parcel of land. Hope that this helps, Leslie Potter

Dear Mike and List, Michael McAlonie wrote: >I have followed some Cambridge deeds (Cambridge lots 44 and 66) back to land sold by an Abraham J Lansingh (and wife Catherine) in the 1770-80s to some Mushets and separately to an Elisha Brewer. When I then look for Lansingh in the grantee indexes there is a deed between Abraham J Lansingh and a John Clark (grantee) 7 June 1773 , notes said "Land 2000 acres , 10 miles E. from South Bay, Charlotte County" > >can anyone tell me if that land would be the Cambridge township area? > >Thanks, Mike > On page 382 of the Calendar of Colonial New York Manuscripts - Indorsed Land Papers (1643-1803) the following item appears: October 9, 1765 - Petition of Quartermaster John Clark, for 2,000 acres of land, to the west of land laid out for Sir John St. Clair, Lieuts. James Dow and Archd. Blane. Vol XX page 9 On page 521 of the Calendar of Colonial New York Manuscripts - Indorsed Land Papers (1643-1803) the following item appears: "March 6, 1771 - Return of survey for John Clark, a tract of 2,000 acres of land, in the county of Albany, ten miles east from South bay, (Castleton, Rutland Co., Vermont) - Vol. XXVII page 84 Map of the same - Vol. XXVII page 84 I suspect that the New York State Archives would be able to supply you with more detailed information on this parcel of land. Hope that this helps, Leslie Potter

>Leslie Potter wrote: > In the 18th Century the "English common law rule" was that each man was taxed on all of the land that he owned, wherever it might be situate, in the Township or Tax District in which he lived. Just for general information, this was not the case here in Virginia. A person was taxed on land or personal property in the county in which it was located -- if he owned land or other personal property (e.g., in the south, slaves) in several counties he would be taxed separately in each place. The tax record would contain a note that he lived elsewhere. He would, however, only pay the poll tax in the county in which he resided. Kathy Liston

1. if someone owned more than one piece of property in 1779 would they appear more than once on the Cambridge district tax lists, or just the one time. Wondering if I am looking at two people with a common name or possibly only one individual who was said to own more than one farm. 2. if someone is on that 1779 Cambridge district tax list as owning real estate is it common to not find any deeds in Albany or Ft Edward for them back to that year? Thanks for any help, Mike

Thank you Mike and Rose for clearing that up. I just found a site through google about a Col Lewis van Woert and it listed some early persons on the Cambridge patent, one of whom is also listed in the grantees section of one of the Abraham Lansingh deeds I was looking at. A Goldsbrow Banyer. In the below clip from that Van Woert site I found there is a Goldsboro Bangor listed as original settler on the cambridge patent. Must be the same guy. Recorded 25 May 1763. Noted:" 1/2 part of land as laid down for highways; also (illegible fraction) of land purchased by Goldsbrow Banyer" I guess this is the previous owner of the lots I am looking at. Thanks again, Mike "Cambridge embraces a part of the Hoosick Patent, <http://millennium.fortunecity.com/tulip/561/hoosac.html>which was granted on both sides of that stream in 1688, the principal portion being in Rensselaer county. About four thousand acres are included in Cambridge. The remainder of the town was a part of the Cambridge patent, granted in 1761 to Isaac Sawyer, Edmund Wells, Jacob Lansing, Wm. Smith, Alexander Colden, Goldsboro Bangor, and others, on condition that immediate settlements be made. The tract included thirty-one thousands five hundred acres, north of the Hoosick patent and extending up the valley, which took the name of the patent. "

Hi All; I have placed most of my photo's of Grave Stones online at. Find A Grave at: http://www.findagrave.com/ This site requires you to join, but it is a free site. There is no charge. I have put about 1300 photo's in Warren and Washington Counties so far. Tom Dunne

I have followed some Cambridge deeds (Cambridge lots 44 and 66) back to land sold by an Abraham J Lansingh (and wife Catherine) in the 1770-80s to some Mushets and separately to an Elisha Brewer. When I then look for Lansingh in the grantee indexes there is a deed between Abraham J Lansingh and a John Clark (grantee) 7 June 1773 , notes said "Land 2000 acres , 10 miles E. from South Bay, Charlotte County" can anyone tell me if that land would be the Cambridge township area? Thanks, Mike

Based on the South Bay reference, my first guess would be on the east side of the Town of Hampton (in northern Washington/Charlotte Co.), near the state line with Rutland Co. (close to present-day Rte. 22). - So quite a ways north of Cambridge, even in the 1770s sense of the town boundaries. - Mike H. -----Original Message----- From: Michael McAlonie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYWASHIN] deeds in Cambridge/ South Bay Charlotte County I have followed some Cambridge deeds (Cambridge lots 44 and 66) back to land sold by an Abraham J Lansingh (and wife Catherine) in the 1770-80s to some Mushets and separately to an Elisha Brewer. When I then look for Lansingh in the grantee indexes there is a deed between Abraham J Lansingh and a John Clark (grantee) 7 June 1773 , notes said "Land 2000 acres , 10 miles E. from South Bay, Charlotte County" can anyone tell me if that land would be the Cambridge township area? Thanks, Mike ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Last year I tried to find the McMullen Cemetery in Argyle. It is listed in Cemetery Records of the Township of Argyle Washington County New York. The directions said it was on the Durkeetown Road, East of Pleasant Valley Road, on SE side of the Road. I found a church on the corner, but no cemetery. Is it in someone's back yard? Has anyone seen this cemetery? Thanks, Liz Garrity

Would some kind soul who has access to an everyname index of the 1920 Census for Washington Co, NY � OR the soundex for that census, please check for the following individuals: AGNES HUNT WASHBURN my Grandmother about age 43 EDITH B. WASHBURN my Mother age 20 KENNETH (KEN OR GEORGE) WASHBURN my Uncle age 10 Agnes would not be Head of household but would be living with friends. I have been told they were in Hudson Falls, NY, but have read that census and did not find them. Mother recently passed away at age 104 ( 3 months shy of 105). Help would be appreciated... ESPECIALLY PAGE #, LOCATION , ETC Jackie in VA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

I spoke with the White Creek Town Historian to see if she had any ideas. She said she really had no idea, but it seemed as if the only place they would be is Fort Edward either in the Historical Room or the archives. I would suggest trying to call them. Wish we could have been more help. Wendy Baker

I am trying to locate tax records for the period 1820-1840 for White Creek, Cambridge, Salem and Jackson. I generally use resources like the LDS microfilms but I cannot find any reference to any New York State tax records in their indexes. Does anyone know if these tax records are available?

Source, Rutland, Vt. Daily Herald--Tues.May 12,1942. WHITEHALL, N.Y. May 11--The funeral of Mrs. Anne S. Bartley, 70, who died Sunday in Glens Falls hospital, will be held Wednesday at 9:30 at Notre Dame des Victoires church in Whitehall. Burial will be in Greenmount cemetery. Mrs. Bartley was the widow of Walter Bartley. Joan H. Bixby

Hi Researchers, Looking for some kind soul to locate the obituary and transcribe it for Mrs. Jane THOMAS HUGHES, my 2nd great grant aunt [see data from her death certificate of May 16, 1916 below]. "DEATH CERTIFICATE VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE, NY Registered No. 28 Jane Hughes, female, widowed, was born 1 Feb. 1844 in Wales and died at age 72 years 3 months and 15 days. Parents were Hugh THOMAS and Ann NOT KNOWN MAIDEN NAME, both born in Wales. The above is true to the best of my knowledge Informant: Mrs. Lizzie Roberts Address: Granville, NY. Filed 18 May 1916 per C.H. Snyder, Registrar." My note: Jane THOMAS maried Hugh M. HUGHES [1840-1908] and children who lived to adutlhood were: Ann, Elizabeth [Lizzie], Hugh L., Margaret [Maggie], Katie, Elias, William H. and Henrietta THOMAS. Thanks :) in advance, Jan Hughes Jordan in VT jnrose at webtv dot net

Patti: Sounds like the summer for Washington County genealogy trips... I will be making my first trip there in three years late next month... can't wait! I just wanted to add that I have stayed at the Fort Ann Campground, and found it to be a very clean, nice place to spend the night - an easy place to recommend. And, to be sure, as it is only a bit off of Route 4, it has a great a great location for northern Washington County jaunts. Thomas Palmer Galion, Ohio

Go to Panera Bread in the Home Depot mall on the corner of Rts. 254 and 9. The are a wireless hotspot. Michael S. McLaughlin 4 North Oak Street Hudson Falls, New York 12839 -----Original Message----- From: Patti Hobbs [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 9:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYWASHIN] Trip Hello, I sent an email to this list soon after joining and haven't seen it go through, so I'll try again. Since then I have been in contact with one very helpful person in the Historical Society. We will be going on vacation and stopping in Washington County on our way to Fort Ticonderoga. I am descended from John Rogers and Mehibitable Tefft Rogers through their son James Rogers and Amy Bronson and through their son Solomon Rogers and Aner Curtis. I have a question though....for those of you familiar with the area. I will have my laptop with me, and I have something I need to take care of on Wednesday--a responsiblity for which I need internet access and I have to be able to do it through my laptop since I have the program I use for this responsiblity is on my laptop. Since we'll be staying in a campground (any suggestions welcomed, but Fort Ann Campground is the one I'm planning now) I need to find someplace, like a public library, that will allow my laptop to connect to the internet. Is there such capability somewhere in the area? Our public library in my area of Springfield, MO has wireless internet access within the building. Right now we have high speed internet through a microwave tower and so I don't even have an access number to dial for modem, although I think I will investigate that possiblity. Thanks for any help. Patti -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 05/13/2005 ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I thought maybe I ought to also tell about my other WAshington County line. Amey L. Rogers married William L. Hunt in Washington County, NY. William Hunt's parents were Wiliam Hunt and Sycha Leigh. Both of them were supposedly born in Albany (1768 and 1770 respectively), but died in Washington County. All of my information from before Henry Harrison Hunt is from a Hunt cousin and I don't have any sources. I'd like to confirm what I have and learn more of course! Patti Patti Hobbs wrote: > Hello, > > I sent an email to this list soon after joining and haven't seen it go > through, so I'll try again. Since then I have been in contact with > one very helpful person in the Historical Society. We will be going on > vacation and stopping in Washington County on our way to Fort > Ticonderoga. I am descended from John Rogers and Mehibitable Tefft > Rogers through their son James Rogers and Amy Bronson and through > their son Solomon Rogers and Aner Curtis > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 05/13/2005