Dear Richard Frisbie, Since you chose to post your "scold" of me to the list, I believe it only fair that my reply (which was initially private - as your post should have been) also be posted to the list. Karl Hakmiller > > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:04:16 -0400 > To: Richard Frisbie <hopefarm@hopefarm.com> > From: "Karl L. Hakmiller" <karlh@concentric.net> > Subject: Re: permission to post > Bcc: \PERSONAL > > Richard, > > I understand. Frankly, I did not consider my quotations excessive and posted > only those which I had typed out anyway for use in my own records. However, > I do wish to "avoid the appearance of evil" and so I will post no more from > this book. > > If it is in any sense compensation to the Society (which I assume is getting > a fee from you from the sales price), I will say that since I posted to > NYULSTER I have had a fair number of private inquiries about where to buy > this book and, of course, I provided your phone number and address. That > being so, perhaps the Society will in the fullness of time be somewhat repaid > for what you (and they) perceive to be quotation "beyond fair use". > > Cheers... > > Karl > > > > At 02:02 PM 7/29/99 -0500, you wrote: > >-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > > > >RE: Terwilliger list (and others) from Old Gravestones of Ulster County > > > >Dear Karl Hakmiller > > > >The Ulster County Genealogical Society - publishers of the book you bought > >from me and are excerpting online - did not give me (host NYGenWeb Ulster) > >permission to post the extensive lists you have been posting here. I would > >be more than happy (thrilled actually) to post this on my site if I had > >permission. But, because it affects the societies' income when I give away > >what they sell, courtesy prohibits my doing it without their permission. > >Have they given it to you? > > > >There are real issues of fair use involved here. Not-for-profit > >organizations, such as the Ulster County Genealogical Society, whose sole > >purpose is furthering genealogical research, receive much of the money to > >accomplish that research from the sales of their publications. Actions > >adversely affecting their income have a negative impact on their ability to > >carry on the research we expect from them. In effect, posting such > >publications here may help listmembers in the short term, but it definitely > >hurts us all in the long term. > > > >I suggest that you not post excessive excerpts from books that are in-print. > >I believe that the previous list owner addressed this in some quidelines. I > >know we communicated and the questionable posts stopped. She may be able to > >shed more light if you are not familiar with it. > > > >Richard Frisbie dba Hope Farm Press > >host NYGenweb Ulster and Greene County > > http://www.hopefarm.com/geneatop.htm Karl L CARLE-L listowner Email: karlh@concentric.net Homepage: http://hakmiller.rootsweb.com/