-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Have written asking for a list of names of > persons buried in their cemetery around and beneath the church and have rec'd > a ltr frm them saying it is against their policy to release such a list. > Anyone know of what I can do next??? Marge. -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- Hello Marge I have a call into them and will be at the Church soon (as soon as they return my call <g>) and I'll ask what can be done. Richard

Nancy....I've seen the term "Sunshine Cemetery" used on some death records in Town of Shandaken, referring to the Wesleyan Methodist Church cemetery in Chichester which is built on what the locals call Sunshine Hill. Ginny Byron ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Shultis <rnplss@worldnet.att.net> To: <NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 11:50 AM Subject: Sunshine Hill Cemetery > Hi! > Does anyone know the location/address of the Sunshine Hill Cemetery? > Thanks and have a wonderful day-------------------nancy >

Hi! Does anyone know the location/address of the Sunshine Hill Cemetery? Thanks and have a wonderful day-------------------nancy

If you have access to a FHC, I have found two films that have records for the Reformed Dutch Church. #1016566 - Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Shawangunk, NY, Wawarsing, NY, and New Hurley, NY. #0529193 - Reformed Dutch Church of Shawangunk - Marriages 1789-1816. There is probably more on each film - I only copied the pages I needed for my own records. Good luck, Sue > Does anybody have a copy of the church records at Shawangunk? Thanks, Pegeen

1764 Benjamin Carpenter of Or Co. W. Mary sons: Gilbert, John and Samuel, "thruee youhngest daughters": sarah, Mary Rhoda, exec, wife and cousin Samuel. Wit Henry Wisner, Jr. and JOHN CARPENTER SMITH, Isaiah Halsted. 1766 JOHN CARPENTER of Blooming (Green?) prob. Gorve, Or Co, merchant. Wife Jane, son Mathew. Dau Julia, Rachel and Amina. Brothers: Elijah and Wm. Carpenter. Brothers in law: Hezekiah Howell, Jr, stephen Howell, Charles Howell. sisters in law: Phoebe, Susannah and Abigail Howell. Exec: Wife and Michael Jaackson and Hezekial Howell, Jun. Wit Thomas Geag (?), Samuel Smith Jr. and WM CARPENTER. Both of the above wills appear to have been proved the same date: Oct 10, 1767. Does anyone know how these people may have been related??? 1761 Carpenter, Soloman of Goshen Or Co. Ch of sons: John and Anthony, dec'd. (these children were not listed by name, drat!!!!); sons: Soloman and Nehemiah; dau Mary Ffin, exec. Soloman and Nehemiah. Wit Benjamin Cory, James Cory, and M. Dunning. (This is probably the Soloman Carpenter of John of John of Wm of Rehoboth from Jamaica who early bought property in Or. Co. - I have an abstract of his deeds. Or. co history says that he had sold part of his property to his brother John - there seems not to be an recorded deed that substantiates that statement.) Note: This is the Soloman for whom the Carpenter Assoc. discussed earlier on this list was formed and wrote the book re. his descendants. 1760 Carpenter, John of Goshen W. Elener, son Anthony, dau Hannah and Eunice, property in Wawayanda patten, land near Sugarloaaf also some on Connecticut purchase on the Susquehannah River. Exec Wife; Wit Soloman Carpenter, Jr., Thomas Wickham, Nehemiah Carpenter. prov 1760 also. (Is this John mentioned as son in previous will? Soloman's son John?) 1777 BARKER, WILLIAM of Goshen, w. Susannah, son John and Wm. Land near Elizabethtown, NJ and Or Co. exec wife and son John. Wit james Denton, WM THOMPSON , Anthony CARPENTER 1781 COOLEY, NATHAN of Cornwall Prec. Or Co yeoman. W. Keziah, sons Nathan, justus, Daniel. dau Hannah. Wife's dau Peniner. Exec. Wife and brother in law JOHN CARPENTER and thomas Moffatt. Wit George Durya, Garrett Duryea, and Enos Ayres. 1777 COLEMAN, GEORGE of Little Britain, Ulster Co. w. Kezia, sons: George, Gideon, John, David, and James. Dau Keziah, Sarah, Cathearine, Hannah, Mary and Lydia. Exec and NEHEMIAH CARPENTER of Newburgh. Wit: David Belknap, Moses Hunt of Ul Co, yoeman, and Benjamin Robinson. Well, I guess this is enough for today. Would appreciate any feedback or comments regarding the relationships of any of these folks to each other, including the witnesses and execs! I hope this is valuable to some of you folks. I have appreciated your response. Phoebe

Hello Everyone We have added 22 new 1600's ancestors and included their children on the Ancestor Roll of Honor on America's First Families web site at; http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ When you enter the site, scroll down to near the bottom of the page where the Ancestor Roll of Honor is located. On the same page you will also find a link to the 1600's Ancestor Data Base that contains over 14,000 names of proven ancestors from that era. Enjoy Harold Oliver Director

Opps....It's me again...I guess if I tell you about my web page, I should add the address to it! Sorry folks!!! http://members.tripod.com/~Reneewr/Index-2.html Let me know what you think! Renee Keleey Wright

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Phebe--yes I need more information. What do you know about the witness JAMES SMITH, in the will for Samuel Carpenter? I am trying to find a Presbytarian James and Henry Smith in the area. Help! Thanks Beverly kancer@uswest.net MzCortez@aol.com wrote: > 1738 prov. 1741 JOHN CARPENTER of Goshen w Elizabeth ch John, Wait and > Rebecca, also an unborn child, brother JOSEPH, Samuel, Benjamin and Timothy. > Exec. JOSEPH CARPENTER and Wait Smith, Jr. and Benjamin Carpenter. Wit. Wm > Smith, Soloman Smith, Wm. Ffin. > > QUESTIONS; > > 1. Does anyone know the name of the unborn child? > > 2. Which CARPENTER family is this JOHN CARPENTER descended from? > > a. Wm of Rehoboth - the presbyterians > > b. Wm of RI - congregationalists > > c. Caleb Zimmerman/Carpenter - Quaker > > 1752 SAMUEL CARPENTER of Goshen, Orange Co. wife Patience, sons Samuel, Wm. > ABRAHAM, JOHN, Joshua, Richard. Dau Abigail and Martha and one UNBORN CHILD. > Exec. Wait Smith, Jr. and Benjamin Carpenter. Wit: James Smith, Samuel > Webb and Jonathan Webb. > > QUESTIONS: #1 and # 2 above. > 1767 ALLISON, RICHARD of goshen, w. Martha sons Joseph, John and Wm. Dau > elizabeth, Martha and Margaret. Exec. Brother in law John Wells and son in > law: SAMUEL CARPENTER. Wit JAMES CARPENTER, James ryan and Timothy Owen. > > Question # 2 above. > > 1775 CARPENTER, JOSEPH the 3rd of Goshen Prec, Or Co. W Ruth, son: Daniel, > dau Hannah and Ruth, AN EXPECTED CHILD. Exec: Daniel Vail and John Smith, > cooper. Wit: Michael Jackson, Wm Oldfield, Hannah Smith > > QUESTIONS # 1 and # 2. > > OK, want more??? > Phoebe

I noticed on the Carpenter Wills posted that the name Gale was in Orange County. I have a Catherine Gale born about 1832 in my genealogy. Anyone know anything about this surname? Thanks, Sue in TN

Can someone please supply me with the address of the town clerk of Medusa,Albany Co. and there is a cemetery there. Could someone provide me with information about it. Thanks. Bill

Hi, List, My husband and I believe we have seen books listing the burials in the Old Dutch Cemetery (we don't have any Ulster roots but live in Ulster County). Check the New York State Library website www.nysl.nysed.gov to see if they carry it, perhaps you can get it on interlibrary loan. You can also check the Kingston Area Library when you visit here. The book may also be in the Pittsfield Atheneum (spelling), the library in Pittsfield, Massachusetts which has a large New England (and some New York) genealogy section. Good luck and let me know how you make out. Elsie MJSTERN46@aol.com wrote: > --part1_e902cd18.243c1e25_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi Ulster and Orange List--This is from someone on the Dutch Colonies list, > not subscribed to this list. I asked her if she wanted me to forward this to > the Ulster list and she said she did. I am also interested in the answer to > her question so please, if you reply directly to Marge, could you also copy > the list? Thank you very much, Marilyn (the one in Austin--but I'll be up > there for a visit soon!!) > > --part1_e902cd18.243c1e25_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <Dutch-Colonies-request@rootsweb.com>Received: from > rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by > air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:03:29 > -0500Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com > [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA13605; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:03:15 -0400 (EDT)Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06891; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:01:04 -0700 (PDT)Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 > 16:01:04 -0700 (PDT)From: Dpmarge@aol.comMessage-ID: > <6caf110c.243bebaa@aol.com>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:58:50 > EDTSubject: Old Dutch Church, KingstonOld-To: > Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.netMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: > text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Content-Transfer-Encoding: > 7bitX-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4Reply-To: > Dpmarge@aol.comResent-Message-ID: > <"_j5O6.A.SqB.sIpC3"@bl-14.rootsweb.com>To: > Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.comResent-From: > Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.comX-Mailing-List: > <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/12041X-Loop: > Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.comPrecedence: listResent-Sender: > Dutch-Colonies-request@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I everyone. It appears that I have many ancestors that were married and > baptized at the ODC, Kingston NY. Have written asking for a list of names of > persons buried in their cemetery around and beneath the church and have rec'd > a ltr frm them saying it is against their policy to release such a list. > Anyone know of what I can do next??? Marge. > > ==== Dutch-Colonies Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the Rootsweb Genealogy Data Cooperative Website? > Visit website: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > To find a county for a known city and state go to; > http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > --part1_e902cd18.243c1e25_boundary-- -- Elsie Saar West Hurley, NY (Oct-May) Austerlitz, NY (June-Sept) saare@banet.net saare@taconic.net

BRUNDAGE/COLLINS; Orange Co., NY; 1750-1850 Q. Who were the parent of Solomon and Mary (COLLINS) BRUNDAGE of New Windsor and Newburgh, Orange Co., NY? Solomon BRUNDAGE, possibly the son of a Benjamin BRUNDAGE, was b. in [Orange Co.?], NY (Census Records) on 29 August 1763; he died at [Fayetteville, Onondaga Co., NY] on 7 August 1831 at 11:15 pm. Solomon was m. at New Windsor, Orange Co., NY on 14 April 1787 to Mary COLLINS of Orange Co., by a Presbyterian Minister, John Close (New Windsor Sessions Book: Marriages). Mary was b. in [Orange Co.], NY (Census Records) on 16 May 1768; she died probably in Orange Co. on 12 October 1848. Nothing is know of Mary (COLLINS) BRUNDAGE's ancestry. Based solely on the fact that Solomon and Mary named their eldest son, Isaac BRUNDAGE, perhaps Mary was the daughter of a man named Isaac COLLINS. An Isaac COLLINS of Newburgh, Orange Co., NY was the instructor of the Warwick Cornet band (History of Orange Co., p. 519). Following his Revolutionary War service, Solomon remained in Orange Co. In the 1790 and 1810 Federal censuses, Solomon was residing at New Cornwall, Orange Co., NY. In 1820, he was a resident of Newburgh, Orange Co., NY. Children, probably all b. in Orange Co., NY: i. Isaac [Johnson], b. 16 Sep 1789. ii. Martha, b. 22 Aug 1791. iii. Benjamin S., b. 19 Sep 1793; m. Charity LANNING. iv. Eliza, b. 12 June 1796. v. John, b. Orange Co., NY 16 March 1799; m. Jemima KNIGHT. vi. Abby Ann, b. 14 Oct 1801. vii. Jane, b. 14 July 1805. viii. Alexander D.N., b. 28 May 1808; m. [Margaret MCDONALD]; resided in Newburgh, NY in 1840. I am seeking all genealogical and biographical details for the family documented above including their ancestors, children, and grandchildren and the spouses thereof, including the full names of those spouses' parents. All additions and corrections, however speculative, will be greatly appreciated. Perry Streeter (pstreeter@acccorp.com) Canandaigua, NY USA

In going through old records, I've seen a "Rochester" ascribed to Ulster County. Is this part of an existing town now - or was it ever? Thank you - Lynn J.

Does anyone know if this Ruth w. of Joseph Carpenter is also Ruth wife of James Smith? Please compare the two wills. # 1. I previously posted: 1775 CARPENTER, JOSEPH the 3rd of Goshen Prec, Or Co. W Ruth, son: Daniel, dau Hannah and Ruth, AN EXPECTED CHILD. Exec: Daniel Vail and John Smith, cooper. Wit: Michael Jackson, Wm Oldfield, Hannah Smith # 2 James Smith 1783 JAMES SMITH, Goshen Prec. Or. Co. w. RUTH. An expected child, Niece Sarah Bradner, stepson DANIEL CARPENTER, nephews: Asa, Richard, Wm and John, sons of John Smith, Jonathan and Enus, sons of brother Wm Smith, George and Wm sons of br. Joshua Smith. Exec, nephew Joh, son of Wm smith and Samuel Gale of Galeborough. Wit John Smith, cooper, Caleb Smith, weaver and John Smith, Jr. of a said prect. Then we have these Smith/Carpenter wills. 1777 Smith, John Carpenter of Goshen Prect or. Co. Ch. richard, Anna, John, Phebe, Jesse and Asa. Exec. br. Waid Carpenter and Samuel Gale; Wit Samuel Baly, David Baly and John Conner. prov. 177?? Could these be Wait Carpenter ;and John sons of John Carpenter and Elizabeth who died in 1738/9 As posted on my last e-mail Phoebe

Help, I have many deeds and wills from early Orange, Rockland, and Ulster counties that pertain to my ancestoral families: Carpenter, Coe, Wisner, Shaw, Thompson, Jayne, and Woohull which I would like to correlate in order to try to draw some conclusions regarding their relationships. Does anyone know of a spreadsheet that can do that? Phoebe

1738 prov. 1741 JOHN CARPENTER of Goshen w Elizabeth ch John, Wait and Rebecca, also an unborn child, brother JOSEPH, Samuel, Benjamin and Timothy. Exec. JOSEPH CARPENTER and Wait Smith, Jr. and Benjamin Carpenter. Wit. Wm Smith, Soloman Smith, Wm. Ffin. QUESTIONS; 1. Does anyone know the name of the unborn child? 2. Which CARPENTER family is this JOHN CARPENTER descended from? a. Wm of Rehoboth - the presbyterians b. Wm of RI - congregationalists c. Caleb Zimmerman/Carpenter - Quaker 1752 SAMUEL CARPENTER of Goshen, Orange Co. wife Patience, sons Samuel, Wm. ABRAHAM, JOHN, Joshua, Richard. Dau Abigail and Martha and one UNBORN CHILD. Exec. Wait Smith, Jr. and Benjamin Carpenter. Wit: James Smith, Samuel Webb and Jonathan Webb. QUESTIONS: #1 and # 2 above. 1767 ALLISON, RICHARD of goshen, w. Martha sons Joseph, John and Wm. Dau elizabeth, Martha and Margaret. Exec. Brother in law John Wells and son in law: SAMUEL CARPENTER. Wit JAMES CARPENTER, James ryan and Timothy Owen. Question # 2 above. 1775 CARPENTER, JOSEPH the 3rd of Goshen Prec, Or Co. W Ruth, son: Daniel, dau Hannah and Ruth, AN EXPECTED CHILD. Exec: Daniel Vail and John Smith, cooper. Wit: Michael Jackson, Wm Oldfield, Hannah Smith QUESTIONS # 1 and # 2. OK, want more??? Phoebe

--part1_e902cd18.243c1e25_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ulster and Orange List--This is from someone on the Dutch Colonies list, not subscribed to this list. I asked her if she wanted me to forward this to the Ulster list and she said she did. I am also interested in the answer to her question so please, if you reply directly to Marge, could you also copy the list? Thank you very much, Marilyn (the one in Austin--but I'll be up there for a visit soon!!) --part1_e902cd18.243c1e25_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <Dutch-Colonies-request@rootsweb.com>Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:03:29 -0500Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA13605; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:03:15 -0400 (EDT)Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06891; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:01:04 -0700 (PDT)Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:01:04 -0700 (PDT)From: Dpmarge@aol.comMessage-ID: <6caf110c.243bebaa@aol.com>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:58:50 EDTSubject: Old Dutch Church, KingstonOld-To: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.netMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitX-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4Reply-To: Dpmarge@aol.comResent-Message-ID: <"_j5O6.A.SqB.sIpC3"@bl-14.rootsweb.com>To: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.comResent-From: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.comX-Mailing-List: <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/12041X-Loop: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.comPrecedence: listResent-Sender: Dutch-Colonies-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I everyone. It appears that I have many ancestors that were married and baptized at the ODC, Kingston NY. Have written asking for a list of names of persons buried in their cemetery around and beneath the church and have rec'd a ltr frm them saying it is against their policy to release such a list. Anyone know of what I can do next??? Marge. ==== Dutch-Colonies Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Rootsweb Genealogy Data Cooperative Website? Visit website: http://www.rootsweb.com/ To find a county for a known city and state go to; http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html --part1_e902cd18.243c1e25_boundary--

Does anybody have a copy of the church records at Shawangunk? Thanks, Pegeen

Seeking information on the above individuals in Ulster/Orange areas of NY. Seeking information all individuals with MOFFATT and TERRILL surnames. Thanks for help, Richard jacobsm@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com