I know this is a long shot, but my ancestor, John ENNIS, was born in NY and moved to Acquackanonk, NJ in the late 1700s. I am not told where he was from in NY., but I did notice quite a few ENNISes in Ulster at that time. His father was probably James ENNIS, and John may have been the youngest out of about 4 or 5 children. Any help will be appreciated. Susan Seifert mal316@ix.netcom.com Visit Guth Genes web site at http://members.aol.com/guthgenes/gutha.htm Lots of surnames from NY, NJ, Austria, Scotland and France.

Looking for any help in finding information on Jeremiah BUNDY. He is located on a census for 1790 in New Marlboro and served in the Revolutionary War. He had a son named James and a daughter. Wife's name is unknown. James was the father of David BUNDY, my great great great grandfather. Any help on finding Jeremiahs family will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Susan Seifert mal316@ix.netcom.com Visit Guth Genes web site at http://members.aol.com/guthgenes/gutha.htm Lots of surnames from NY, NJ, Austria, Scotland and France.

Does anyone have any info on George K. Elliott b 1827-d1907 and his wife Olive Northrup b1831-d1916 they are buried in Highland Cemetery in New Paltz, N.Y. and are my Great grandfather and grandmother. They came to the New Paltz area from Penn. My Grandfather Theodore Gates Elliott was born in Penn. in 1867 d1940 and also buried in Highland Cemetery. My Grandfather married Edith L. Brooks b1871-d1935 also buried in the Highland Cemetery. Other than a name I have not been able to find out much about her, I think she lived on Springtown Road in the New Paltz Tilson area. Any info would be appreciated. Thank You Tom e-mail CAPTTOM@AOL.COM

Hi Phoebe & anyone else interested in THOMPSONs. My own THOMPSON line is a brick wall that I've been unable to chip in any manner in the past five years: Samuel THOMPSON, b 18 Sep 1760---per Bible records. ---d 1828 in Otsego Co, NY, had settled there near Decatur prior to 1800. wife: Grizell INGALLS, b 1756, Rehoboth, MA per Bible records ---have been able to trace her line back to immigrant ancestor, Edmund INGALLS of England. They married 1780, in NH---Grizell had family there, having apparently removed to the area after the Rev. War. Have found NO connection between *my* Samuel & the numerous Thompson families of NH in his time. Have found NO evidence of Rev. War service for Samuel. Children, born 1781-1800: Rebecca; Roxanna (my line); Eunice; Hannah; Royal; Ruben/Russel; Caleb; Rufus; Nahum & Samuel, Jr. Any suggestions? Anyone recognize this family? Laurie <laurielightfoot@prodigy.net> -----Original Message----- From: MzCortez@aol.com <MzCortez@aol.com> To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com <NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 1:19 AM Subject: Orange Co. NY, Thompsons, Rev. War times. > Dear Folks, > > I am pretty new to the list, but am researching the Orange Co. NY Thompsons. > I have data from some of the will abstracts and deed abstracts. Does anyone >know if this has already been posted to the list, and/or is anyone interested >in my materials??? > > I am descended from John and Mary (Thompson) Wisner, Jr. and have recently >been told that her parents were James and Marah (McDowell) Thompson. James >was a son of Wm. Thompson, the blacksmith. Any other folks of this line. > > Would love to exchange information. > > Phoebe >>

--part1_9cc497a0.24569f68_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Folks, I am pretty new to the list, but am researching the Orange Co. NY Thompsons. I have data from some of the will abstracts and deed abstracts. Does anyone know if this has already been posted to the list, and/or is anyone interested in my materials??? I am descended from John and Mary (Thompson) Wisner, Jr. and have recently been told that her parents were James and Marah (McDowell) Thompson. James was a son of Wm. Thompson, the blacksmith. Any other folks of this line. Would love to exchange information. Phoebe >> --part1_9cc497a0.24569f68_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MzCortez@aol.com From: MzCortez@aol.com Full-name: MzCortez Message-ID: <9cc497a0.24569ec4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:01:56 EDT Subject: Orange Co. NY, Thompsons To: THOMPSON-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: MzCortez@aol.com Dear Folks, I am pretty new to the list, but am researching the Orange Co. NY Thompsons. I have data from some of the will abstracts and deed abstracts. Does anyone know if this has already been posted to the list, and/or is anyone interested in my materials??? I am descended from John and Mary (Thompson) Wisner, Jr. and have recently been told that her parents were James and Marah (McDowell) Thompson. James was a son of Wm. Thompson, the blacksmith. Any other folks of this line. Would love to exchange information. Phoebe --part1_9cc497a0.24569f68_boundary--

My ggg grandfather Robert Jackson BEATTIE married Sally (or Sarah) CRIST in Orange Co., NY around 1829, probably at Middletown. Was Middletown part of old Ulster Co.? Does anybody have any BEATTIE's or CRIST's in their records? Best regards, Rod ================= Rod Pennington Fishers, IN rodpenn@iquest.net

Hi all, Where might I find any surviving lists of the Dutch and then English soldiers who were stationed in Esopus/Wildwyck/Kingston in the 1650s & 1660s? I don't suppose anyone has put a list on the web?? Thanks for any suggestions. Peggy Peggy Dolan outtolaunch@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello fellow listers: Based on Tom Cornell's recent posting on the ease of looking up Orange Co. Wills and Deeds, I have a couple of questions. I am assuming that Ulster Co. is not the same as Orange Co. Where would one go to find Ulster Co. Wills and Deeds. Anyone know about Dutchess Co.? Next question, is there anyone living in the vicinity of Goshen, or the courthouses in Ulster and Dutchess Co., that could do look-ups? I am living in Washington state, so it is impossible for me to do this myself at this time. I understand that everyone is busy, I just thought I would ask. You know--nothing asked, nothing received. Deagh fortan dhut (Good luck to you) --Debbie (dlcowman@juno.com) Researching Allison, Babcock, Belknap, Carman, Cowman, Dodd, Gould, Litch, Millican, McNeil, Sweet, Veatch

Hello Folks, I just discovered that my James Thompson of Or. Co. NY married Marah McDowell. So have started researching McDowells. Have found a John McDowell from Middle Town, NJ purchased property in Or. Co. NY from Sayers in 1788 and also Alexander McDowell sold property to the Piscataway Baptist ch. in 1731. Is anyone researching McDowell name? I have Runyon and VanCourt ancestors of NJ and Wisner, Thompson, Jayne, Woodhull, and Carpenter of Or. Co., NY. Thank you, Phoebe in CA

One of the best places to look up this sort of information is the USGS Geographic Names Information System (http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html). A search on Elizabeth in New York yields: NAME COUNTY TYPE Elizabeth Field Suffolk airport Elizabeth Island St. Lawrence island Elizabeth Island Warren island Elizabeth Street School Onondaga school Elizabeth, Lake Putnam lake Elizabeth, Lake Rensselaer lake Elizabeth, Lake Saratoga lake Elizabethtown Essex pop. place Elizabethtown Herkimer pop. place Elizabethtown, Town of Essex civil Chris Lyttle At 01:39 PM 4/25/1999 EDT, you wrote: >I am new to this site and hope that I picked the one that could help me out >with my question. Could someone tell me what county Elizabeth, N.Y. is in. >I had to guess which county I thought Elizabeth was located. Did I guess >right or am I way off. I am from Ct. and I have been trying everyway to find >this answer out and joining a NY >website was my only chance to find out. They say NY people are friendly. >Well, I >picked this site to question. Can someone tell me where in NY it is? > >Thanks your neighbor to the East > >PinzNndle

-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Could someone tell me what county Elizabeth, N.Y. is in. PinzNndle -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- Dear PinzNndle Not only is no Elizabeth listed in a current gazetteer of NY, but the lost towns index of the 1860 one does not list an Elizabeth either. Richard

Doesn't seem to be an Elizabeth, NY. Found three Elizabethtown, NY. One in Herkimer County, and two in Essex County. Regards, Ginny ----- Original Message ----- From: <PinzNndle@aol.com> To: <NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 1:39 PM Subject: New York Information > I am new to this site and hope that I picked the one that could help me out > with my question. Could someone tell me what county Elizabeth, N.Y. is in. > I had to guess which county I thought Elizabeth was located. Did I guess > right or am I way off. I am from Ct. and I have been trying everyway to find > this answer out and joining a NY > website was my only chance to find out. They say NY people are friendly. > Well, I > picked this site to question. Can someone tell me where in NY it is? > > Thanks your neighbor to the East > > PinzNndle >

>From personal experience, I can tell you that there are rather complete records of wills, deeds, etc, for Orange Co., NY going back to the early 1700's. Some of the originals of wills even exist. The wills and related documents -- letters of administration, etc. -- are in the Surrogate Court office. Just inside the front door are fat books which provide an index to their holdings. Once you locate the volume number and page, you head to the basement to find the actual document. These are in similar binders which contain xerox copies of the originals. You will be looking, not at the original will, but a copy made by the court clerk of the original. Other than possible goofs in reading the original handwriting, one is as good as the other. The Surrogate Court office is in a small yellow brick building just east of the Goshen Presbyterian Church which is in the center of the downtown. You cannot miss its tall steeple. Deeds are held by the County Clerk. The Clerk is in the country office complex about two blocks up Main Street from the Presbyterian Church. This is a modern looking group of buildings which I think you might describe as a bunch of stacked blocks. As with the Surrogate, you can go help yourself and find the deeds that interest you. They are all kept by volume and page number. When you find documents you need, then go see one of the clerks to get a copy. Last time I was there, it was quite inexpensive, like 25 cents a sheet. These are all legal documents you will be looking at, so treat them with respect. Make no marks of any kind on them as others after you may want to look at them, too. Tom Cornell Orange Co. Cornell/Knapp descendant

I am new to this site and hope that I picked the one that could help me out with my question. Could someone tell me what county Elizabeth, N.Y. is in. I had to guess which county I thought Elizabeth was located. Did I guess right or am I way off. I am from Ct. and I have been trying everyway to find this answer out and joining a NY website was my only chance to find out. They say NY people are friendly. Well, I picked this site to question. Can someone tell me where in NY it is? Thanks your neighbor to the East PinzNndle

I am looking for FERGUSONs in Ulster County. I know from the 1870 census, this family was in the town of Warwarsing in Ulster County. There are other censuses too, but there are a number of similar names, so I'm not sure which one is really my Gabriel. A brief family tree of my Gabriel is as follows: 1 Gabriel FERGUSON b: 1818 in New York +Mary Jane SILSBY b: 1831 d: January 03, 1913 2 Edward FERGUSON +Anne ? 2 Willam FERGUSON b: 1852 +Carrie ROGERS 2 Millard (or Willard) FERGUSON 2 Alanzo FERGUSON 2 Mira FERGUSON +Sam TAYLOR 2 Florence FERGUSON 2 Charles M. FERGUSON b: 1868 2 Jane Ann FERGUSON b: April 05, 1861 d: December 16, 1933 +Enoch ROGERS b: April 09, 1862 d: April 25, 1925 m: December 19, 1879 2 John L. FERGUSON b: 1855 The lineage below was compiled by a fellower FERGUSON researcher from the many emails and posts on the name in NY. Can anyone confirm this is correct? I am not sure where on the following tree my Gabriel fits in and was hoping someone could help me. 1John & Anne Ferguson 2 Hannah Ferguson 2 Hezekiah Ferguson & Martha Leggett 3 Maria m. Edward Halstead???(not convinced this is a daughter) 3 Anne b. 20 July 1756 3 John b. 25 Dec 1758 m. Mary Campbell 4 Barbary b. 1786 4 Anne b. 1791 4 Hezekiah b. 1793 4 John b. 1794 4 Catheren b. 1796 4 Martha b. 1798 4 Findlay b. 1800 4 Mary b. 1802 4 Gabriel Leggett b. 1804 4 Jane Elize b. 1807 4 Marget b. 1808 4 Merrin b. 1801 3 Mary b. 17 May 1761 3 Basil b. 11 Oct 1763 3 Sarah b. 11 Dec 1765 3 Peter b. 10 Aug 1768 3 Gabriel b. 31 Mar 1745 m. Hannah Smith 4 Hezekiah b. 1780- 1857 m. Susanna Cornell 5 James b. 1805 5 Anna b. 1806 5 Hannah b. 1807 d. 1885 unmarried 5 John C. b. 1810 m. Elizabeth? (Marie Nations line?) 5 Robert Reynolds b. 1812, still at home in 1850 d. unmarried 5 Esther b. 1819 5 Phebe A. b. 1821 4 John 4 Gabriel b.1780-1790 4 James 4 Martha 4 Betsy 4 Peter 4 Thomas 4 Smith 4 Atkinson 3 Thomas b. 17 Jun 1747 3 Martha b. 17 July 1750 3 Bridget b. 20 Jun 1754 I'd appreciate ANY help! I sure wish I got the genealogy bug BEFORE I moved out of NY state! Thank you! Donna White

I've had good success with GenForum's boards. The address is www.genforum.com. They have boards for surnames as well as states. Hope that helps. --Debbie Cowman dlcowman@juno.com

There was a request for death records for 1865. New York State did not start recording death certificates until 1880, so town and city clerks will not have any such record. The Surrogate Court is the best bet, if the decedant left any property. The death record in such files is highly unlikely to contain any information on parentage, but a will file can have very useful information on children and maybe siblings (if the decedant died with no children or a sibling might have been named executor, particularly if children were young). Establishing someone as a sibling to your ancestor then finding a death certificate for that sibling (if he/she died after 1880) can be very helpful in establishing parentage. As to the records not being releasable, that just seems strange. They might mean more recent death records, since those that are less than 50 years old do have access restrictions, but from a will in 1865? No, I don't think so. The problem may simply be the poor condition of the records. I would contact the Ulster County Hall of Records. They might be able to give you some better direction as to gaining access to these records. The number is (914) 340-3415. A will file, even without the parentage information, can be invaluable in stringing together clues. Ray LaFever Staatsburg, NY 12580 USA ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Try Ancestry.com - you can enter youir family tree at no cost. Also Parsonstech.com Then there is gen.com with message boards. Good hunting Frank Sloat Arnols, MD

While death records may be "unreleasable" The Surrogate's Office also keeps books of Wills. In Orange County I was able to get copies of the wills of ancestors back to the Revolutionary War. Also there are often books of Abstracts of Wills published by Genealogical Societies. The Orange County Genealogical Society, 101 Main St., Goshen, NY 10924 has such a book for Orange Co. and may be able to refer you to the similar for Ulster Co. I have found such documentation generally satisfactory for lineage membership societies such as SAR, OFPA. Frank Sloat Arnold, MD

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