--part1_29d3d101.24605007_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-04 09:26:56 EDT, MzCortez writes: << Dear Folks, Does anyone have information of this couple? Joanne Carpenter was b. Orange Co. NY, dau of Moses Carpenter and Joanna Smith after 1778. Carpenters moved to Onondaga Co. 1794. We have found Joanna and Jesse Reed marriages listed both in NJ and Westchester Co. (do not know if either relates to this couple). Joanna and Jesse Reed were named in the Moses Carpenter will of 1828 as living in Aurelius, Cayuga Co. Their children were listed as Julya Ann Perry, Elisa Ann Moredock (or Murdock) James C. Reed Abigail Mariah Reed maybe also Jonnah Fay and Betsy Gardner. Her sisters were Susannah (Carpenter) Redmond, married to Michael Redmond Abigail (Carpenter) Munro and her half sister Elizabeth (Carpenter) m. James Wisner in Orange Co., NY. There were Reeds from Orange Co. and NJ both at about the same time. Am trying to identify the correct Reed family and what happened to Joanna's family. Thank you, Phoebe >> --part1_29d3d101.24605007_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MzCortez@aol.com From: MzCortez@aol.com Full-name: MzCortez Message-ID: <29d3d101.24604fa0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:26:56 EDT Subject: Jesse Reed m Joanna Carpenter, NY aprox 1800 To: READ-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Dear Folks, Does anyone have information of this couple? Joanne Carpenter was b. Orange Co. NY, dau of Moses Carpenter and Joanna Smith after 1778. Carpenters moved to Onondaga Co. 1794. We have found Joanna and Jesse Reed marriages listed both in NJ and Westchester Co. (do not know if either relates to this couple). Joanna and Jesse Reed were named in the Moses Carpenter will of 1828 as living in Aurelius, Cayuga Co. Their children were listed as Julya Ann Perry, Elisa Ann Moredock (or Murdock) James C. Reed Abigail Mariah Reed maybe also Jonnah Fay and Betsy Gardner. Her sisters were Susannah (Carpenter) Redmond, married to Michael Redmond Abigail (Carpenter) Munro and her half sister Elizabeth (Carpenter) m. James Wisner in Orange Co., NY. There were Reeds from Orange Co. and NJ both at about the same time. Am trying to identify the correct Reed family and what happened to Joanna's family. Thank you, Phoebe --part1_29d3d101.24605007_boundary--

I had to say this to those who will appreciate my exasperation. In DECEMBER, I sent to Albany for a copy of my gr gr grandfather's death record (Russell D. KELSEY) . Finally today I received an answer. No record found for Russell D. KEYSEY. You know, it's bad enough waiting 5 months but then to not even get the right name searched. AAAAhhhhhhh. Thank you for letting me vent. Marion

The submitter apparently has a different account or has left aol. any recognize the submitter? 4624 Individuals Subject: NY Dutch Families Author: RMOMINEE@aol.com Uploaded By: RMominee@aol.com Date: 07/17/96 File: ULSTER1.ZIP (240220 bytes) Estimated Download Time (14400 baud): < 4 minutes Download Count: 822 Needs: Unzipping, Word Processor or Genealogy Program with Second in a series of early NY Dutch Families from Ulster - Orange Counties. Families include Rosencrans, Vredenburgh, Cool, Decker, Schoomaker, Quick, Schutt, Kortright, Van Garden, Westfall, Devens, Dewitt, Van Campen, Van Etten, Brink, Van Auken, Westbrook and other familes. File will be updated monthly. Please provide comments and inquiries to RMOMINEE --- Librarian's Note: This file has been scanned and is virus-free. aol://4400:11688 created 6-18-97 gedr4007

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1E2505761CB4EFDC87BFBF3B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------1E2505761CB4EFDC87BFBF3B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com ([204.212.38.30]) by mtiwgwc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with ESMTP id <19990502185633.KAZV4544@bl-14.rootsweb.com>; Sun, 2 May 1999 18:56:33 +0000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29087; Sun, 2 May 1999 11:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990502145241.0069ca10@pop.snet.net> X-Sender: ppfaff@pop.snet.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:52:41 -0400 Old-To: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com From: Peter & Nancy Pfaff <ppfaff@snet.net> Old-Cc: NYWESCH-L@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [NYC] 2 pages from NY Times Resent-Message-ID: <h7CcxC.A.WGH.C5JL3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/15024 X-Loop: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NYC-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >From two different dates in the NY Times: (it is OK to forward this to other mail lists) 25 Aug 1937 Article - Driver Sentenced to Apologize Roselle, NJ - Aug. 24 - John S. WILMORE, charged with ignoring a traffic signal, was fined $10 by Acting Police Judge Philip D. COHEN here today and ordered to write a letter of apology each day for a week to Patrolman Henry ALBERS, citing the rudiments of gentlemanly behavior, the duties of a traffic officer and why they should be conducive to public appreciation. The sentence was imposed because ALBERS said WILMORE became abusive when he was arrested. Small obituaries WILSON, Leonard Gilbert, Jersey City NJ SHANLEY, James, Ellenville NY PFAFF, Charles W., Philadephia WHITE, Rev. Dr. Edwin George, husb of Anna Gertrude BRUECKMANN, Valentine C., Atlantic City NJ DONKELBERGER, Chauncey E., from Niagara County SHEAFF, Joseph, Asbury Park NJ THOMPSON, Emily (BROWN), wife of Charles, Glen Ridge NJ WALLACE, Miss Alta M., Linden NJ DAVIS, Frank Warden, NYC VOORHEES, J. Stanley, Cranford NJ HEED, Edward Henry, Pelham Manor NY COOK, Joseph, Fort Lee NJ CONKLIN, James Crossman, Huntington L.I. 28 Feb 1938 Small obit SHANLEY, Michael F. Births [these are the complete items] FATT, Jerome & Evely (ROSEN), wish to announce the birth of a daughter, Feb. 25. LISSNER, Benjamin P. & Roslyn (PIERMONT) of Long Branch, NJ, announce the birth of a daughter, Jill Lissner, on Saturday, Feb. 26. Marriages [these are the complete items] HOFFMAN-WINTERS - Mrs. Elois Winters, Pittsburgh, Pa. announces the marriage of her daughter, Louise Yvonne Winters, Feb. 26 to Mr. Burton C. Hoffman, son of Mrs. Belle Hoffman of New York and the late Herman Hoffman. TAPMAN-SHULMAN - Feb. 26, 1938, Marion Joan Shulman to Walter P. Tapman. Death notices BARRECA, Rocco BELL, Charlotte R., widow of Orlando BERNHARD, Albert A., husb of Emily (MAYLATH) BETTINI, Commendatore Giammi, husb of Daisy (ABBOTT) BRAINSON, Arthur, husb of Bertha (HYMANSON) ECKERT, Leon G., husb of Augusta (MEISNER) EDWARDS, Catherine FEILER, Elizabeth, wife of John E., Sr. FONDA, James Lansing, husb of Alice FORD, Clarence D., husb of Lillian (HEBBERD) FREUND, Caroline FULLE, Eillien (McDERMOTT), widow of John H. GALE, Walter C. GASS, John H., widower of Louise GLUCK, Fanny, widow of Simon GOLDBERG, Herman GRAHAM, Charles Douglas GREENOUGH, Chester Noyes HALFORD, Elijah W. HAMERSLAG, Patricia L. and Virginia E. HANO, May (FULTON), wife of Louis R. HENIGSON, Samuel, husb of Emma (COHEN) HERZ, Mina HOCHREICH, Rebecca, wife of Harry McBRIDE, Bridget, widow of Stephen McGRATH, Lillian (NICHOLSON), wife of Dr. John MALONE, Kathleen MILLER, Althea F., widow of William Webster MULLER, Christopher MURPHY, Denis J., husb of Elizabeth (LUCEY), Bronx MURPHY, Michael Joseph, address 25 Teimann Pl. NEIFAH, Samuel O'BRIEN, Patrick, hsub of Gertrude (DEVINE), Jackson Hgts, LI O'HARA, Bridget (TYRELL), wife of Patrick PIZER, Martin J, husb of Naomi POWELL, Frederick Eugene, magician PRICE, Moris, husb of Ethel RAFF, Martin. husb of Rose REYER, Miss Marie Please e-mail if you need more info on the obits or death notices. Nancy Pfaff P.S. For those who asked about my son, age 4 - he had adenoids and tonsils removed, ear tubes put in on Thursday the 29th. Was feeling awful yesterday, much better today (sunday). Chowing down on ice cream, Jell-O and Popsicles. Thanks to all who asked. ==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== ROOTSWEB - http://www.rootsweb.com/ --------------1E2505761CB4EFDC87BFBF3B--

I looked up Overton in the Eager history of Orange County. Moses Overton is listed on Page 415/16 as one of the early settlers of "Ridgeberry". I was born in Middletown and spent the first three years of my life in the Presbyterian Manse at Ridgebury. Frank Sloat Arnold, MD

Would anyone know where baptism records from Bloomingdale could be located? I am assuming that it is a Dutch Reformed Church. Mr. "D"

I am wondering if there was a census taken in 1845 and if there was, is there any way to access it? I can't seem to find my ancestors who lived in Ulster County in 1850 or 1855. Even my ancestors from Columbia County seem to be missing from their census records. What is the problem? Did they go into hiding when the census taker came to their door? Or did they go on vacation whenever he came around? Also, does anyone know if there are volunteers that do lookups for Ulster County? Thanks for any and all help. Susan Seifert mal316@ix.netcom.com Visit Guth Genes web site at http://members.aol.com/guthgenes/gutha.htm Lots of surnames from NY, NJ, Austria, Scotland and France.

Hello, List, Does the following ring a bell with anyone? I am especially interested in the John Meehan residing in Otisville, NY. R. Meehan Descendants of Cornelius Meehan Generation No. 1 1. CORNELIUS1 MEEHAN was born November 01, 1815 in Ireland, and died July 31, 1900 in Delhi, New York. He married MARGARET CARMAN OR CANNON 1853, daughter of ANDREW CANNON and BRIDGET MCNELIS. Note: her maiden name is listed as Cannon on her death certificate, Cornelius’ obituary. Children of CORNELIUS MEEHAN and MARGARET CANNON are: 2. i. PATRICK2 MEEHAN, b. September 1854, Queens County, New York; d. June 07, 1930, Unadilla, New York. ii. BRIDGET MEEHAN, b. 1857; d. 1940, Delhi, New York. iii. JOHN MEEHAN, b. Abt. 1870, New York; m. ANNA L. TUTTLE, February 02, 1901, East Delhi, NY. More About JOHN MEEHAN: Fact 1: February 22, 1906, residing in Otisville, NY iv. JAMES MEEHAN. v. MARGARET MEEHAN, m. HOWARD SUTTON. 3. vi. CATHERINE MEEHAN, b. May 1871; d. Abt. 1901, Texas. vii. WILLIAM MEEHAN. Generation No. 2 2. PATRICK2 MEEHAN (CORNELIUS1) was born September 1854 in Queens County, New York, and died June 07, 1930 in Unadilla, New York. He married MARY KEILT Abt. 1877 in New York?. More About PATRICK MEEHAN: Fact 1: 1880, Census; Oyster Bay, Queens; age 27; per film #0448218 FHC Fact2: 1900, William W, James H, Mary A listed children; John Meehan not listed in 1900 census Fact 3: 1900, wife Mary DOB 1850 age 49 More About MARY KEILT: Fact 1: 1869, Arrived in US. Fact 2: 1915, NYS census; age 65; wife of Patrick Children of PATRICK MEEHAN and MARY KEILT are: i. JOHN MEEHAN, b. May 30, 1878, Queens County, New York. ii. WILLIAM MEEHAN, b. July 1880. iii. JAMES HENRY MEEHAN, b. June 08, 1882, New York; d. May 13, 1951, Delhi, New York; m. EUGENIA ZELLER, 1899, Delhi, New York. More About JAMES HENRY MEEHAN: Fact 1: 1899, Date of marriage to Eugenia Zeller (Sehorsch) per his obituary. Fact 2: First marriage in St. Peter's Church, Delhi, NY More About EUGENIA ZELLER: Fact 1: October 04, 1898, Arrived in New York from Germany. Travelled on the SS Southwark. Fact 2: Travelled from Schorndorf, Wurttenburg, Germany Fact 3: Embarked from Antwerp, Belgium, 11 years AFTER her mother came to US. Fact 4: October 04, 1948, First death recorded in St. Peter's Church in Delhi, NY iv. MARY AGNES MEEHAN, b. August 1886, New York; d. Safety Harbor, FL 3. CATHERINE2 MEEHAN (CORNELIUS1) was born May 1871, and died Abt. 1901 in Texas. She married PAUL A. ADAMS Abt. 1893. Listed on 1900 Texas census as residing in Palestine, TX. Children of CATHERINE MEEHAN and PAUL ADAMS are: i. CHARLES NORMAN3 ADAMS, b. May 1893. ii. MARGARET ADAMS, b. May 1894. iii. JAMES LAWRENCE ADAMS, b. October 1898.

Greetings, Listers. Would anyone out there be able to do a lookup for a deed or deeds containing the name Moses OVERTON, ca 1785-1828? He moved to Orange County from Long Island, and was reported to have been one of the first settlers to reside in or near Ridgebury. Many thanks for any responses. BC Researching OVERTON, WILCOX, CAMPBELL, CAVANAUGH, SLINGERLAND

Hi' I just read the latest from your site and I have to tell you how much I enjoy reading all the information that so many share. I'm not receiving any help with my line but in the meantime I'm learning a lot about the county from all of you who share your knowledge. Helen in CA

Does anyone have any information on Hoffmantown or where I could find any information on the net! Thanks! Kim Hoffman - klhoffman1@msn.com

Posted by: Jeff Scism Subject: Marjory (Stevenson) Cavanaugh Message: Looking for Majorie Stevenson, married Frank Cavanaugh, in NY, she was Born c. 1927-1931 in Dutchess County NY. I am seeking her for a reunion with her Brother, Kenneth Stevenson. Kenneth is really concerned he hasn't seen her in decades. Majorie's parents were Howard Arthur Stevenson, Sr. and Edna May (or Mae) BEEKMAN Her siblings are Kenneth Stevenson, Buelah Stevenson, and Howard Arthur Stevenson, Jr. Any information may be directed to ScismGenie@aol.com.

Readers, The deeds that have been appearing in the Ulster newsletter contain names that may be of interest to you. I have transcribed several land deeds for my 5xGGF, Samuel Knapp, which contain some more names of this area, and I thought I would excerpt them for the same purpose. Tom Cornell Samuel Knap Land Sale to Jesse Gustin - 5 April 1806 All that certain lot or parcel of Land lying and being in the town afforesaid near Pochuck mountain Beginning at a Chesnut tree on the East side of the horse tavern brook in the line of Caleb Taylor and runs southwest up said brook to the line of Aaron Deckers land then along the same to the tier line then along the said tier line to a corner of Jesse Gustin's line and from thence to the place of beginning -- supposed to contain fifteen acres of land or be the same more or less within the same bounds .... Witnesses: Joseph Houston, Robert Fariet (Note: Jesse Gustin and Aaron Decker were sons-in-law of Samuel Knapp.) Land Sale to Samuel Knap from William and Mary Thompson - 18 July 1795 All that certain lot piece or parcel of land and premises being a part of one of the equalizing lots laid out on the division of the Patent of Waywayanda to the original Patentee right of Daniel Honan containing nine Hundred and thirty acres nearly one half of which is cut off by the Jersey line Situate at Pochunk in the town of Warwick and County of Orange aforesaid which said lot hereby intended to be conveyed Begins in the teer line of the first division of the drowned lands lots on Pochunk mountain and at the westerly corner of the lands late of Isaac Allison deceased and runs thence along the Said teer line South Sixty four degrees west three Chains and fifty links to the teer line of the Second division of the drowned lands Thence along the Same south thirty one degrees west fifteen chains to a heap of stones on a large rock made as a Division of the whole lot Thence along the division line thereof South fifty one degrees East one Hundred and one Chains and fifty links to Pochunk creek thence down the same Northerly as it runs to the Northeasterly line of the whole lot, and thence along the Same North forty Seven degrees west ninety four Chains and fifty links to the place of beginning .... Witnesses: Richd Graham, Benjamin Depuy, Junr. Samuel Knapp Land Sale to John D. Knapp - 13 April 1826 all that certain piece or parcel of land lying in the said town afforesaid beginning in the center of the turnpike road and runs thence along the land of Charles D. Howell South thirty six degrees and a half East twenty two chains and twenty links to an ash stump in the edge of the drowned lands thence South fifty degrees west three chains and ninety links thence along the lands of George D. Wickham and Jesse Wood South forty four degrees and thirty minutes west thirty four chains and thirty four links to the west side of a ridge of rocks on the East side of the road leading from Pochunck bridge to west town thence north forty five degrees and fifteen minutes west twelve chains and twenty five links along the road thence north forty nine degrees and thirty minutes west one chain and eighty eight links thence north thirteen degrees and thirty minutes west twenty three chains and sixty links to the center of the road leading from Samuel Knapps to the turnpike road thence along the Said road north eighty three degrees and thirty minutes East eight chains and eighty links to the center of the turnpike road thence along the same north? fifty eight degrees East six chains thence along the same north sixty seven degrees and thirty minutes East fifteen chains and twenty three links to the place of beginning .... Witnesses: Timothy Smith, James Clason (Note: John D. Knapp was the son of Samuel.) Land Sale to Samuel Knap From Squire Whitaker - 2 December 1772 Alien Enfieff and Confirm unto the said Samuel Knap, his heirs and assigns forever all that --- or Tract of Land Situate lying and being in the aforesaid County and province in the patent of Waywayanda and bounded as follows viz Beginning at a white Oak which is Backmans South Corner upon the Jersey Claim thence south Forty five degrees East Twenty seven Chaines and Fifty Links to a Stake and stones upon the west Corner of Squire Tracys Land thence North Forty five degrees East Thirty seven Chaines to William Holly's Land thence North Thirty two Degrees west Twenty Eight Chaines to a Red Oak Tree Standing on the West Side of ---cuts Hill Standing on the Bank of said Creek upon Bukmans Line thence along Bukmans Line to the place of Beginning.... Witnesses: Wm Allison, Mary Vantassel The 1834 probate of Samuel Knapp's 1815 will included depositions from: John D. Knapp (his son) Philo K. Cole, City of Albany Moses Wisner, Town of Rose, County of Wayne Joseph Pound, worked for Samuel Knapp Jeremiah Shaw, worked for Samuel Knapp George D. Wickham, Knapp's lawyer Abigail Knapp, second wife of Samuel Knapp Samuel Knapp's residence -- western Warwick, Orange Co., NY adjacent to Pochuck Mountain and the Drowned Lands.

--part1_e75d703f.245c9b5e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-01 13:59:59 EDT, MzCortez writes: << Vol g and h LDS Film # 08228549 G 157 160 1875 Wm Wlmer to WM A THOMPSON where WILLIAM W. THOMPSON now lives, neighbors John and Daniel Carpenter, dec's. John Purchased from Nathan Moore, Jr. and John Smith decd, Abraham A Blawvlt recovered charges (this was very confusiong. I did not get the jist of it.) G or H 163 1800 Wm Elmer to WM A THOMPSON WHERE WILLIAM W THOMPSON now lives, b on the N by highway between Samuel Smith, deceased and said farm on the W by public highway leading from G to Drowned lands and S by Daniel Carpenter, decd and John Carpenter on E public highway from G to Florida and part of the Blacksmith lot bounds on the S by the lands of said John Carpenter which he purchased from Nathan Moore, Jr and John Smith Decd on the E by land of Henry Jaackson which he purchased of the said Wm. Elmer in 1793, on the W by public highway G to Fl 175 acres. Wit. Nathaniel Gale and ELINORE THOMPSON G 389 Wm Allison, Daniel Wood, WM W. THOMPSON exec of will of GOERGE THOMPSON, late of G sell property to Wm Elmer, land next to WM M THOMPSON's property. Wit: Benjamin Moore, Jr. and Ezra Howell H 194 11/19/1783 Wm Allison, esq, Dr. daniel Wood and WM W THOMPSON, prec G, exec of last will and test of GEORGE THOMPSON Aug 9, 1782, court of probate , state of NY sell to Haey Jackson, taylor, G Wawa pat part of farm of G. Thompson, N of road leading to Capt Covell Bradner, SE corner of Benjamin Moore lands. Wit Wm Elmer and Benjamin Moore. H 196 7/20/1786 same as a94..townsiip of G in Wa pat SE end of G. Thompson farm, SE corner of Isaac Ludlum farm, NW side of road to lot purchased by Jermiah Jessup then Dr. Wm. Elmer S Wm. Allison, Henry Jackson, 44 acres. Wit Wm Elmer and Jeremiah Jessup H 198 WM W THOMPSON, yeoman and wife Sarah to Henry Jackson, taylor. S Div of twnship G called black smith lot eigh acres borders Dr. Wm Elmer, said Henry Jackson, SE jackson, Wit : Robert Caldwell and Wm Elmer. I think this is the end of my deeds that have Thompson in them. Phoebe Does anyone know if there were two James Thompsons early in Orange Co. One the son of Wm, blacksmith and another who came over from Ireland with Clintons?? >> --part1_e75d703f.245c9b5e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MzCortez@aol.com From: MzCortez@aol.com Full-name: MzCortez Message-ID: <e75d703f.245c9b1f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:59:59 EDT Subject: Orange Co NY deeds vol gh Thompson mentioned To: THOMPSON-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Vol g and h LDS Film # 08228549 G 157 160 1875 Wm Wlmer to WM A THOMPSON where WILLIAM W. THOMPSON now lives, neighbors John and Daniel Carpenter, dec's. John Purchased from Nathan Moore, Jr. and John Smith decd, Abraham A Blawvlt recovered charges (this was very confusiong. I did not get the jist of it.) G or H 163 1800 Wm Elmer to WM A THOMPSON WHERE WILLIAM W THOMPSON now lives, b on the N by highway between Samuel Smith, deceased and said farm on the W by public highway leading from G to Drowned lands and S by Daniel Carpenter, decd and John Carpenter on E public highway from G to Florida and part of the Blacksmith lot bounds on the S by the lands of said John Carpenter which he purchased from Nathan Moore, Jr and John Smith Decd on the E by land of Henry Jaackson which he purchased of the said Wm. Elmer in 1793, on the W by public highway G to Fl 175 acres. Wit. Nathaniel Gale and ELINORE THOMPSON G 389 Wm Allison, Daniel Wood, WM W. THOMPSON exec of will of GOERGE THOMPSON, late of G sell property to Wm Elmer, land next to WM M THOMPSON's property. Wit: Benjamin Moore, Jr. and Ezra Howell H 194 11/19/1783 Wm Allison, esq, Dr. daniel Wood and WM W THOMPSON, prec G, exec of last will and test of GEORGE THOMPSON Aug 9, 1782, court of probate , state of NY sell to Haey Jackson, taylor, G Wawa pat part of farm of G. Thompson, N of road leading to Capt Covell Bradner, SE corner of Benjamin Moore lands. Wit Wm Elmer and Benjamin Moore. H 196 7/20/1786 same as a94..townsiip of G in Wa pat SE end of G. Thompson farm, SE corner of Isaac Ludlum farm, NW side of road to lot purchased by Jermiah Jessup then Dr. Wm. Elmer S Wm. Allison, Henry Jackson, 44 acres. Wit Wm Elmer and Jeremiah Jessup H 198 WM W THOMPSON, yeoman and wife Sarah to Henry Jackson, taylor. S Div of twnship G called black smith lot eigh acres borders Dr. Wm Elmer, said Henry Jackson, SE jackson, Wit : Robert Caldwell and Wm Elmer. I think this is the end of my deeds that have Thompson in them. Phoebe Does anyone know if there were two James Thompsons early in Orange Co. One the son of Wm, blacksmith and another who came over from Ireland with Clintons?? --part1_e75d703f.245c9b5e_boundary--

--part1_3fdb4a6c.245c5e5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-01 09:39:53 EDT, MzCortez writes: << Subj: Or. Co. deeds, Thompson mentioned Date: 99-05-01 09:39:53 EDT From: MzCortez To: THOMPSON-L@rootsweb.com Vol E and F LDS film 0828548 E 130 Sept 20, 1792 Benjamin Thompson, Warwick to Abraham Westfall of Mama colton(? sp), Ulster C. and John Wisner, Warwick. Wit: JAMES WISNER and James Hall Sig. Benjamin Carpenter (m) Note: James Wisner is reported to be the son of the above John Wisner. He is my ancestor who moved to Onondaga Co. and this is the only time I have seen him mentioned in the deeds. E 137 Sept 12, 1792 BENJAMIN THOMPSON, Warwick to JOHN WISNER, Warwick and ABRAHAM WESTFALL, Ul. Co. as Tenents in Common, land previously owned by John van Horn, 109 acrs b. Lot #4 George Wood, #3 John Bailey, George Wood, and Daniel Baily, Wit: James Hall and JAMES WISNER Sig. Benjamin Thompson (m) E 144 9/26/1792 BENJAMIN THOMPSON of Warwick to Samuel Seeley of same. 109 acres in Warwick #4 prev. conveyed to George Wood, Daniel Baily. Wit: Richard Bayles and Bernard A Blevis. Signed by (m) Benjamin Thompson E 155 Wm W. Thompson, Esq, late high sherfiff writ of testiment Fieri Facias re. land of Samuel Clintock and Isaac Syunans, G precint, Wm Treadwell debt and damages. Grantee Wm Wynans 116 acres where Isaac Syans now lives along land of James Sayer, land of JOHN THOMPSON, and Isaac Jennings. Wit Joshua Seely and Wm Elmer E 179 Heirs of Helen Rutgers: John and w Helena Rutgers of NY, Peter R Kissas, Wm Grey and also WM THOMPSON and MARY of Goshen, "his own right" to Wm Gray, Now Cornwall land Wawa Pat Lot # 7, 54 acres. Wit: JOHN CARPENTER, Relief ____________ and _________Brunel ? Vouch(couldn't read) E 180 May 1, 1792 MOSES CARPENTER, yeoman and w Hannah, Warwick to Joel and Nathaniel Wheeler, yeoman, Warwick. Near Mt. Eve, previous ownership late JOHN WISNER, dec, part of the estate of the said John Wisner, Wawa pat. b farm of Capt JOHN WISNER, dec, standing in Bog Meadow, commonly called Lewsiees (?sp) farm. Wit: Absolom Townsend, WM THOMPSON, also the judge. Sign Moses and Hannah Carpenter (m) recorded 4/19/93. Note: in babody of deed, "mortgage which Moses Carpenter gave to Christian Morris, Jacob Morris and Sally Morris, children of Mrs. Jane Everit, now due...Wheeler promised to pay." I cannot find out how the Morrises or Everits got John Wisner, dec. property. I didn't find the deed. E 183 1793 John M Scott to Wm Wisner, near Warwick Meeting house, James Mitchell, Chas Baily, Daniel Burk, also to make a buriel ground for Warwick. Wit Samuel Smith, Wm THOMPSON E290 1794 John Van Horn, Summerset Co. NJto JOHN WISNER, Jr, Minisind, yeoman, previous ownership John Bridges Lot 11 Wpat. Wit: CHRISTIAN THOMPSON, WM THOMPSON; E 413 1791 Children of Helena Scott, late of NY m John R Peter R Kissam NYC, eldest son of Benjamin Kissum, decd and Deborah NYC, Everet Banker NYC, Paul Lee and Wm Thompson and w Mary in his own right, West side of Drowned Lands in Minisink, lot # 2. 1st West Div of Wawa. pat. to John Chatwell N Samuel Clark and John Decker. Wit: JOHN CARPENTER, Relief Van Bount and Rich Vanch for John and Helen Myer, Peter R. Kissam and Deborah, Adrian Kissam and Everet Banker Wit: CHRISTIAN THOMPSON and Alexander Wood for WILLIAM and MARY THOMPSON. (does anyone know the relationship of the Thompsons (if any, to these people?) F 45 1796 Augustus Griffsing, G to JOHN THOMPSON and CATHERINE, w, Wa wa pat, previous owner, Hudson, neighbers Phinehas Rumsey, Wit John Stewart and Sally Stewart. Note: I just saw a statement that said that Mary Thompson, first wife of JAMES THOMPSON, son of Wm Thompson, the blacksmith (see previous deeds) was the half sister of the father of JAMES WOOD of Warwick in 1752. Previously we had been told that her mother's maiden name was Marah McDowell. Does anyone know of a Widow McDowell who married a Mr. Wood?? (I think that is how it might work out if true.) Phoebe >> --part1_3fdb4a6c.245c5e5d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: MzCortez@aol.com From: MzCortez@aol.com Full-name: MzCortez Message-ID: <3fdb4a6c.245c5e29@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 09:39:53 EDT Subject: Or. Co. deeds, Thompson mentioned To: THOMPSON-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Vol E and F LDS film 0828548 E 130 Sept 20, 1792 Benjamin Thompson, Warwick to Abraham Westfall of Mama colton(? sp), Ulster C. and John Wisner, Warwick. Wit: JAMES WISNER and James Hall Sig. Benjamin Carpenter (m) Note: James Wisner is reported to be the son of the above John Wisner. He is my ancestor who moved to Onondaga Co. and this is the only time I have seen him mentioned in the deeds. E 137 Sept 12, 1792 BENJAMIN THOMPSON, Warwick to JOHN WISNER, Warwick and ABRAHAM WESTFALL, Ul. Co. as Tenents in Common, land previously owned by John van Horn, 109 acrs b. Lot #4 George Wood, #3 John Bailey, George Wood, and Daniel Baily, Wit: James Hall and JAMES WISNER Sig. Benjamin Thompson (m) E 144 9/26/1792 BENJAMIN THOMPSON of Warwick to Samuel Seeley of same. 109 acres in Warwick #4 prev. conveyed to George Wood, Daniel Baily. Wit: Richard Bayles and Bernard A Blevis. Signed by (m) Benjamin Thompson E 155 Wm W. Thompson, Esq, late high sherfiff writ of testiment Fieri Facias re. land of Samuel Clintock and Isaac Syunans, G precint, Wm Treadwell debt and damages. Grantee Wm Wynans 116 acres where Isaac Syans now lives along land of James Sayer, land of JOHN THOMPSON, and Isaac Jennings. Wit Joshua Seely and Wm Elmer E 179 Heirs of Helen Rutgers: John and w Helena Rutgers of NY, Peter R Kissas, Wm Grey and also WM THOMPSON and MARY of Goshen, "his own right" to Wm Gray, Now Cornwall land Wawa Pat Lot # 7, 54 acres. Wit: JOHN CARPENTER, Relief ____________ and _________Brunel ? Vouch(couldn't read) E 180 May 1, 1792 MOSES CARPENTER, yeoman and w Hannah, Warwick to Joel and Nathaniel Wheeler, yeoman, Warwick. Near Mt. Eve, previous ownership late JOHN WISNER, dec, part of the estate of the said John Wisner, Wawa pat. b farm of Capt JOHN WISNER, dec, standing in Bog Meadow, commonly called Lewsiees (?sp) farm. Wit: Absolom Townsend, WM THOMPSON, also the judge. Sign Moses and Hannah Carpenter (m) recorded 4/19/93. Note: in babody of deed, "mortgage which Moses Carpenter gave to Christian Morris, Jacob Morris and Sally Morris, children of Mrs. Jane Everit, now due...Wheeler promised to pay." I cannot find out how the Morrises or Everits got John Wisner, dec. property. I didn't find the deed. E 183 1793 John M Scott to Wm Wisner, near Warwick Meeting house, James Mitchell, Chas Baily, Daniel Burk, also to make a buriel ground for Warwick. Wit Samuel Smith, Wm THOMPSON E290 1794 John Van Horn, Summerset Co. NJto JOHN WISNER, Jr, Minisind, yeoman, previous ownership John Bridges Lot 11 Wpat. Wit: CHRISTIAN THOMPSON, WM THOMPSON; E 413 1791 Children of Helena Scott, late of NY m John R Peter R Kissam NYC, eldest son of Benjamin Kissum, decd and Deborah NYC, Everet Banker NYC, Paul Lee and Wm Thompson and w Mary in his own right, West side of Drowned Lands in Minisink, lot # 2. 1st West Div of Wawa. pat. to John Chatwell N Samuel Clark and John Decker. Wit: JOHN CARPENTER, Relief Van Bount and Rich Vanch for John and Helen Myer, Peter R. Kissam and Deborah, Adrian Kissam and Everet Banker Wit: CHRISTIAN THOMPSON and Alexander Wood for WILLIAM and MARY THOMPSON. (does anyone know the relationship of the Thompsons (if any, to these people?) F 45 1796 Augustus Griffsing, G to JOHN THOMPSON and CATHERINE, w, Wa wa pat, previous owner, Hudson, neighbers Phinehas Rumsey, Wit John Stewart and Sally Stewart. Note: I just saw a statement that said that Mary Thompson, first wife of JAMES THOMPSON, son of Wm Thompson, the blacksmith (see previous deeds) was the half sister of the father of JAMES WOOD of Warwick in 1752. Previously we had been told that her mother's maiden name was Marah McDowell. Does anyone know of a Widow McDowell who married a Mr. Wood?? (I think that is how it might work out if true.) Phoebe --part1_3fdb4a6c.245c5e5d_boundary--

Rachel Ann LEGG VAN KEUREN died at Kingston, Ulster County on 22 October 1893. She died at 62 years and 9 days of age. Therefore was born in October, 1831. She was born, I believe, in Kingston, married Abraham VAN KEUREN, raised their family in Poughkeepsie, but then moved to Pueblo, Colorado. She left Pueblo just before her death to return to her "old home" in Kingston, according to her obituary in the Pueblo Daily Chieftain newspaper. I am searching for her branch of the LEGG family. Does some kindly person, in Ulster County, have ease of access to any Ulster County newspapers for this time frame which might have a more elaborate obituary for Rachel Ann than the Colorado paper. Or, anything else about this family and Rachel Ann, just because it is known. I'd be most appreciative of any directions or clues provided. Regards, Carl Smarling

Hi Julie, Thanks for the info you got from another list. This site should be helpful to many even if it is big. Glad you are on this list! Lenore

Thanks, Cynthia, for that explanation. I knew the village had undergone several name changes, but was unaware of the exact history of it. Thanks again for clarifying. Julie Hesson <genpub@iolinc.net> RV4cats@aol.com wrote: > > Mary Beth, > "Usopus" should have been spelled "Esopus". First documented in 1616 on a > map. That's the original name of Kingston in Ulster Co., NY. When the Dutch > established the local courts, Esopus was then called "Wildwyck or Wiltwyck" > in 1661 by Director General Peter Stuyvesant. The name went back to > "Kingston" in Sept 1669 except for a brief time during the second period of > Dutch rule, 1673-1674, when it was temporarily called "Swaenenburgh". > > The neighboring town of Hurley (cross a street and you are there) founded in > 1662 was originally called Nieuwe Dorp which means New Village since it was > established after Kingston. On 7 June 1663, both Nieuwe Dorp (Hurley) and > Esopus (Kingston) were burned by the Indians in what was termed the "Esopus > Massacre of 1663." The New Village wasn't substantially rebuilt and resettled > until 1669 and shortly after received the name "Hurley". > > Basically, after 1669 Esopus was called Kingston and Nieuwe Dorp was called > Hurley. Once you get the *jist* of it and become familiar with the name > changes it becomes easier and less confusing. > Cynthia > > In a message dated 99-04-29 16:53:27 EDT, mary.beth.angus@hok.com writes: > > << When looking up names on the Library LDS CD's, they listed a whole group of > people as from Usopus, Ulster NY. Is that a place? Or was this a general > statement for anyone born in that area? >>

Mary Beth, "Usopus" should have been spelled "Esopus". First documented in 1616 on a map. That's the original name of Kingston in Ulster Co., NY. When the Dutch established the local courts, Esopus was then called "Wildwyck or Wiltwyck" in 1661 by Director General Peter Stuyvesant. The name went back to "Kingston" in Sept 1669 except for a brief time during the second period of Dutch rule, 1673-1674, when it was temporarily called "Swaenenburgh". The neighboring town of Hurley (cross a street and you are there) founded in 1662 was originally called Nieuwe Dorp which means New Village since it was established after Kingston. On 7 June 1663, both Nieuwe Dorp (Hurley) and Esopus (Kingston) were burned by the Indians in what was termed the "Esopus Massacre of 1663." The New Village wasn't substantially rebuilt and resettled until 1669 and shortly after received the name "Hurley". Basically, after 1669 Esopus was called Kingston and Nieuwe Dorp was called Hurley. Once you get the *jist* of it and become familiar with the name changes it becomes easier and less confusing. Cynthia In a message dated 99-04-29 16:53:27 EDT, mary.beth.angus@hok.com writes: << When looking up names on the Library LDS CD's, they listed a whole group of people as from Usopus, Ulster NY. Is that a place? Or was this a general statement for anyone born in that area? >>

Just received this on another list, and thought it might help some, here. Julie, IBSSG > For anyone who doesn't know it, yet, the entire book, "A GENEALOGICAL > DICTIONARY of THE FIRST SETTLERS OF NEW ENGLAND, > SHOWING THREE GENERATIONS OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE MAY, 1692, > ON THE BASIS OF FARMER'S REGISTER." By James Savage, is online at: > gopher://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/11/journals/kraftpub/Genealogical%09%09%2B . > Please bear in mind that it is BIG. > > I know that this is not a vital record but it has sure been a great guide > for many end of lines, for me.