Film 828546 B-512 Aug 12, 1736 CALEB CURTISE and wife MARY, Goshen, carpenter to WM KNAP, yeoman 45 pounds. NW Div lot # 12 74 acres border N WAIT SMITH adn W J. GALE's land, ALSOP's children. E Highway that leads to SOLOMON FINCHES. Wit: THOMAS SHAW, SOLOMON FINCH Is anyone researching the Curtis lines? We are looking for information on Jeremiah Curtis who married Temperance Carpenter. Thank you. Phoebe

MzCortez@aol.com wrote: > > Carpenter, Richard Orange 23 Carpenter > Orange Burglary Fair Brown 6' > Ulster Life 1816 Sep 24 dark hazel eyes > Pardoned 11/9/1819, free Sounds like a qualifier, to me; his conviction makes all of his descendants eligible to join the Flock of the International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists. Check out our website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/index.html Automatic IBSSG qualifiers are: Murder Kidnapping Armed Robbery Treason Theft of any item of fame Membership in a famous gang, well documented Political Assassin Member of the FBI’s Most Wanted List Political Expatriate Extreme Public Embarrassment Involvement in Witchcraft Trials Documented Felon (Prison Time served) Winning a BoPeep Award Majority drafting by acclaim of the IBSSG membership Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/index.html BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" and funds. If you have an ancestor of less than desirable character hanging, (literally, perhaps!) on your family tree, we invite you to join IBSSG. It's a fun site, where we highlight our scoundrels. Remember, you are not responsible for your ancestors' misdeeds. They not only made history--they made it colorful! So come, join us, by posting your baddie's story to the list. He/she must be related to you within one degree of consanguinuity--your direct ancestor, or a sister, brother, or spouse of one. Join the Blacksheep mail list by sending a message to: BlackSheep-L-request@rootsweb.com or BlackSheep-D-request@rootsweb.com In the body of the message, type only one word "Subscribe" (without the quotes), and no other text, then send. We look forward to seeing you in the Pen! Julie Hesson, IBSSG Flock Mistress Proud Rootsweb Sponsor+

Thank you to one and all. I am very greatful for the information on Otisville. I spent one whole trip to the DC National Archives looking for it and now I know where to look. Wish me luck that this elusive grandfather is there once I find Otisville. Thanks again to all of you. Barbara

Carpenter, Richard Orange 23 Carpenter Orange Burglary Fair Brown 6' Ulster Life 1816 Sep 24 dark hazel eyes Pardoned 11/9/1819, free http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/ny+index+59019625512+F

Susan, Deyo is a surname--Christian and Pierre Deyo, father and son, were two of the original 12 patentees of the settlement of New Paltz, NY. They signed the patent along with the other 10 men, on 29 Sep 1677. Your Deyo Davis may have been given the name to perpetuate a maternal line surname--a good clue, that you probably have a line going back to those original patentees. Julie, IBSSG Susan Seifert wrote: > My question is this: Could the name Deyo be a shortened name for > Cornelius, or perhaps even a nickname?

I am so excited. I think I may have broken through with the mystery of Deyo Davis. I was looking through the census of Rosendale in 1850 and found a Cornelius Davis married to Sarah Davis and there were about 4 children. I found this same family in the 1855 census of Rosendale, but no Cornelius. There were a couple of children added on also, one of which could be my great great grandmother, Emma Jane DAVIS. There was listed in the 1855 census an Emah who was 2. My Emma Jane should have been 5, but they could have made a mistake. My question is this: Could the name Deyo be a shortened name for Cornelius, or perhaps even a nickname? There is no Deyo DAVIS listed anywhere that I can find. Even the DAVISCLEARINGHOUSE doesn't have his name listed ( except for what I sent in). Any thoughts on this mystery would be greatly appreciated. Susan Seifert mal316@ix.netcom.com Looking for Deyo DAVIS, Sarah DUDLEY, Emma Jane DAVIS, Rosendale, 1850-

In the 1850 census of Ulster County in Kingston Town on page 52 ID#NYS9a6748772, there is a Charles C. More. Would anyone know if that census showed names of family members or was that one that just had so many people between the ages of, ect. ? Sure would like to know who was living with him. Thanks, Betty E. More

Now don't get too excited about this. Those are ALL common names! I do not know if I can recreate the deeds or not. There is web site for Ulster and Orange Co and you might want to lurk around there and try to get something stirred up. It is pretty quiet and I have been putting stuff on it trying to get other folks communicating! It is NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com don forget to put in the word request. I am going to go look under my other e-mail to see if possibly I can find the Thompson stuff. Phoebe

A colleague at the State Archives just sent me this URL from the State Department of Health. It very nicely lays out the access policies concerning birth, death and marriage records in New York State for genealogical purposes. http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/vr/geninst.htm Richard, you might want to create a link to this site on the Ulster County GenWeb page. Ray LaFever Manor Farm Cottage 22 Old Route 9 Staatsburg, NY 12580 USA ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I can confirm that Otisville is part of the Town of Mount Hope in Orange County (in my job, I have had to deal with officials in the village and it is part of Mount Hope). It is an incorporated village, but for census purposes, look for the Town of Mount Hope first. Ray LaFever Staatsburg, NY 12580 USA ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi! Thought I would post my Lockwood info again..in hopes of finding a connection! Abraham Lockwood born April 14, 1813. He died Oct 12, 1887 in Ulster County, NY. He married Sarah randall born 1823 and died 1905 in Ulster County NY. Their children: Wilbur born 1840 in Olive, Ulster County, NY James W. born 1842 and died in 1863 in VA (Civil War) Jane born 1845 and married Smith. She died in 1921 in Shandaken, Ulster County Mary was born 1847 Sherman born 1850 or 1851 Abram born 1857 Chas born 1860 Walter born 1863. He lived in Peekskill NY for a bit and had at least 1 son named Byron. All the children are born in Ulster County NY Wilbur Lockwood who was born in 1840 died May 15, 1913 in Shady, Ulster County, NY. He married Elizabeth Rules born 1848. Their children: Martha born 1867/8 may have married a Walter Van Kueren James W. born 1868 Mary born 1876. She married Orrin Merwin in Susquehanna,PA in 1894. Orrin was the son of Orrin Merwin and Stella Beers. All 3 children born in Ulster County NY James W. Lockwood born 1868 married Nellie M. Grant Oct 1888 in Margaretville, Delaware County, NY. Nellie was the daughter of William P. Grant and Harriet Newell. She was born in Greene County, NY. Their children: Chester born 1889. Married Bessie Carnegie in Sanford, Broome County, NY.They lived in Susquehanna, PA and had 3 children:Pauline, Paul and Irene Eva born Aug. 1890. She died 1960 in Susquehanna, PA. She married James Ivey (1889-1958) lived in Susquehanna and their children: James, Kenneth, Catherine, and 2 more daughters. James W. born 1892 and died Jan. 1960. He married Ethel May Davis (1901-1943) in Deposit, Delaware County, NY. They had 9 children: Althea, Durel, irving, Dean, Theodore, Janice, William, and Lawrence. James and Ethel May also lived in Broome County and Oneonta, Otsego County,NY. Many of this line is buried in Plains cemetery in Oneonta. Sarah (Sadie) J. born 1893 married Clarence henry King in Deposit, Delaware County, NY. Both died Oct. 1918 in the flu epidemic in Sanford, broome County, NY Sidney was born 1895 and married Gertrude Bullis.They had Mildred marie and Frances Nellie G. born April 1901 in delhi, Delaware County, NY. She married a Raymond Church. She lived in Oneonta and had no children. The James W. that married Nellie Grant is a bit of a mystery..he died between 1905 and 1915 can't find his record in NY or PA yet. If anyone has any info on this line, please let me know. I do have some more info to share..esp. on James and Ethel Mays children. Thank you!! Michele R. Lockwood

This in regards to message # 6 about a file to be downloaded of dutch people in Ulster and orange Co. I am not knowledgeable on how to download this file plus I understand that you did not know the Email address of the person RMominee. How can i get a hold of this file and the way I can get it on my computer? Still learning! Catherine DVerkijk@aol.com

Hi Barb - I checked my census maps - in the 1840 Census Otisville would have been in Orange Co. It might be under Middletown - the only reasonably sized town in the area. Frank Sloat Arnold MD

Barbera Try ORANGE COUNTY. 1850 Federal Census (M432-574) Otisville should be in Mt Hope Township. It should have been the same in 1855 State Census. I believe that is part of the area that was Ulster County prior to 1800 but then became Ulster County. Bill S

To Mr. "D" and Ray LeFever - What was once called Bloomingdale, is now called Bloomington. There is indeed a Dutch Reformed church located there. I don't know about the baptismal records but here is their address should you wish to contact them. United Reformed Church PO Box 206 Bloomington, NY 12411 The pastor is Rev. Nicholas Miles. Ray...I have a Town of Rosendale Directory for 96-97 and in it is a piece entitled "Commemoration of the 116th Anniversary of the Dutch Reformed Church of Bloomingdale". It was contributed by a Cornelius I. LeFevre and dated September 15, 1912. It gives a short history of the church and the men who were on the first consistory. A Simon LeFevre is also mentioned. I would guess that these are your relatives. M. Oakley, High Falls

Bob Nominee's Website with NEW additions is at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2697/ AOL says "ScismGenie@aol.com" is not a member????? Maybe having computer problems. Cynthia In a message dated 99-05-03 23:31:55 EDT, ScismGenie@aol.com writes: << The submitter apparently has a different account or has left aol. any recognize the submitter? 4624 Individuals Subject: NY Dutch Families Author: RMOMINEE@aol.com Uploaded By: RMominee@aol.com Date: 07/17/96 >>

I would be interested also in where these records might be. I also would suggest contacting the Huguenot Historical Society in New Paltz. Their library had some transcribed church records. I can't remember if this church was one of them, or if even such a church existed. My LeFevre ancestors came from Bloomingdale area. My great grandfather was born in Rosendale. The area is north of New Patlz. Ray LaFever Manor Farm Cottage 22 Old Route 9 Staatsburg, NY 12580 USA ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Dear Folks, Does anyone have any information onMichael Redman, Newburgh, Ulster Co 1790 census: 1 2 3. (Also listed are John and David Redman).\ I believe this Michael Redman is probably the Michael who married Joanne Carpenter, dau of Moses and Hannah (Smith) Carpenter of Orange Co.. Would appreciate receiving and or exchanging information with interested folks. Thank you, Phoebe in CA

Is there anyone who can tell me what town Otisville might have been counted with in the New York Census for the years 1845 and 1855. It is not indexed and neither is it noted on any census. But it was there and had to be counted somewhere. I sure hope that one of you can help me. I am about to order those tapes from the LDS and no use ordering ones that are useless. Barbara

Dear Folks, I see these terms a lot in the old Orange County deeds and books. Does anyone know the history, early settlers, etc. and present location of these areas? I have seen Greycourt associated with the early Cromeline tract and associated with the names Phineas Dun, Joseph Carpenter, and William Morrell, and maybe Anselem Helms. Does anyone have any information on any of the above families (this is 18th century). I have seen Blaggs Clove associated with Woodhull and a John Carpenter and others. Does anyone know which JOHN CARPENTER this might have been and information on his family and descendants. I have seen the name Craigsville associated with Soloman Carpenter, and perhaps, an early JOHN CARPENTER. There were many JOHN CARPENTERs mentioned in the history of ORANGE County and I am trying to sort them out. Any assitance would be appreciated! Phoebe in CA I have seen