Looking for information pertaining to a Daniel D. Seymour, probably born in early 1800's. Found in 1860 Ulster Co. census with wife Elizabeth and son Charles, age 23 (I think Charles was born in Modena). Any assistance will be greatly appreciated! Regards, Barbara Jones Pulley Southeastern NC

These are notes that I collected from everyone that has responded about Elizabeth "Liddie" Hornbeck. Take a look and make any comments. We can discuss this and see what else we can come up with on this early Dutch Pioneer lady. Jay --------------------- From: Sandi <KinSeeker7@aol.com> I have only two HORNBECKs so far, and some say the name was spelled HORNBEEK in some records. I'll post the info below. Descendants of Johannes "John" Hornbeck 1 Johannes "John" HORNBECK b: April 20, 1685 +Osseltje Ursula WESTBROOK b: March 07, 1696/97 2 Elizabeth HORNBECK b: May 13, 1722 Kingston, Ulster Co.,NY d: Moorefield, Augusta Co., VA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Patton" <patton@eskimo.com> Descendants of Johannes "John" Hornbeck Generation No. 1 1. JOHANNES "JOHN"3 HORNBECK (WARNAAR2 VAN HOORNBEECK, JOOS1 VAN HOORNBEECKE) was born May 08, 1685 in Hurley, Ulster, NY, and died 1767 in Hampshire Co. VA. He married ORSELTJEN (URSELJE) URSULA WESTBROEK August 12, 1716 in Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. Children of JOHANNES HORNBECK and ORSELTJEN WESTBROEK are: i. BENJAMIN4 HORNBECK, b. 1717, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. 1804, Unknown. ii. ANNAATJEN HORNBECK, b. July 15, 1718, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. JEEMS SIMSON, April 09, 1738, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. iii. RICHARD (DIRK) HORNBECK, b. January 10, 1719/20, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. JENNEKE OOSTERHOUT, Unknown, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. iv. ELIZABETH HORNBECK, b. May 13, 1722, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. HENDRICK CUTRIGHT, December 28, 1739, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. 2. v. DANIEL HORNBECK, b. September 25, 1726, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Abt. 1778, Hampshire Co. VA. vi. SAMUEL HORNBECK, b. Abt. 1728, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. November 15, 1815, Bourbon Co. KY; m. DOROTHEA "DOLLY" HARNESS, 1762, Hampshire Co. VA. vii. JONATHAN HORNBECK, b. February 01, 1729/30, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Abt. 1758, Killed by Indians during the Fort Seybert Massacre siege; m. SARAH VERNOY, September 21, 1751, Wawarsing, Ulster, NY. viii. ISAAC HORNBECK, b. September 17, 1732, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. February 19, 1799, Bullitt Co. KY. ix. ABRAHAM HORNBECK, b. September 17, 1732, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. 1758, Killed by Indians during the Fort Seybert Massacre siege; m. CATHERINE TERWILGE, Unknown, Unknown. x. ELEANOR (LENA) HORNBECK, b. February 10, 1733/34, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. CORNELIUS CUTTERACT. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shirley Hornbeck <hornbeck@s-hornbeck.com> To answer the question about Elizabeth Hornbeck (wife of Hendrick Cutright) - as far as I know, ALL of Elizabeth Hornbeck's brothers went to the Valley. (This would be The South Branch of the Potomac Valley) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Carol Scior Information which I have show that Hendrick Cutrack (Cortregt) married Elizabeth Hornbeck at Kingston, NY on 28 Dec 1739. Their children are listed as Charity Cutright who married Samuel Pringle, Benjamin Cutright who married Catherine Wolfe and John Cutright who married Rebecca Truby. >From this information it would seem that this Hendrick is not the father of my John Cutright who married Elizabeth Subre. In answer to your question about Elizabeth Subre's parents, I have nothing on her at all. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shirley Hornbeck <hornbeck@s-hornbeck.com> I would like to point out that a second son named Benjamin born to Johannes Hornbeck and Orseltjen Westbroek is only a probability and is not proven. A Benjamin was baptized 19 May 1717 and he may have died young as they named a second son Benjamin and he was baptised on Jun 28, 1724. This is probably the Benjamin who married Janneke Kortright. Source: Ulster Co. baptismal records. Thank you all who posted information. Jay

I am looking for the address of the Shawangunk Dutch Reformed Church. Can anyone help? Thanks

Glenys: Are you sure that you've got that location in Orange Co. correct? There is a Craigville, a crossroads halfway between Washingtonville and Chester, but there is a church there. Lisa

Please contact me for info on Wetmore. Bill Ft. Walton,Fl

Thank you, RIchard. If it wasn't a good time for the rest, it certainly was for me. Have bookmarked it and hope to glean a lot. Thanks again. Daniel > > Dear listmembers - it is probably time to invite you > again to view my > NYGenWeb pages for Ulster County and Greene County: > http://www.hopefarm.com/geneatop.htm > Containing - FULL county contact information, FULL > library listings with > hours/holdings and contact info, (including LDS for > Ulster) with over 1000 > queries, indices to search and an (all too brief) > list of contributed > genealogical snippets and cemetery listings. > > Richard > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Richard, Would it be possible to share this mailer with us? > > FYI - I created a mailer for the Greene and Ulster > County historians that > lists contact info for all the town clerks, other > town historians, > researchers, museums, societies, libraries, > newspapers, etc. - everything I > could think of for someone from away needing to > further their own research - -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- Dear listmembers - it is probably time to invite you again to view my NYGenWeb pages for Ulster County and Greene County: http://www.hopefarm.com/geneatop.htm Containing - FULL county contact information, FULL library listings with hours/holdings and contact info, (including LDS for Ulster) with over 1000 queries, indices to search and an (all too brief) list of contributed genealogical snippets and cemetery listings. Richard

Thanks to all who responded to my question, I'll try some of those avenues! Joan

I am looking for the parents or any other information concerning Catherine Jane Freer born according to cemetary records in Marbletown July 12 1820. She married 20 July 1837 Alonzo Chamberlain Chapin(Chaffin). Their first child Ann Elizabeth was born 18 July 1838 in New Paltz. Any information greatly appreciated. Margot A. Gifford

I am looking for information on Catherine (Kate ) Dudley born 3 Nov 1820 in Ulster County. She married John Dietz and died in Hurley. Is her father George Dudley whom I found in Warwarsing in 1850 with what looks like a second family? Also looking for the parents of Anna Smith who married Jeremias Freer 30 October 1818. She was born 12 Jan 1800 in Marbletown. Thanks, Diane

Joan, Where was he/she naturalized _From? and _Through? That is, come by boat on salt water, river, or canal? Where might he/she have landed? NYC? Montreal? And about how old was he/she in 1850? Did he/she come with parents or as adult? Other than that, we don't need to know much, eh? Daniel > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:55:11 -0400 > From: "McNulty" <mcnulty@voicenet.com> > To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Naturalizations? > > Hi List! > Could anyone please point me in the direction for > finding papers of a person > who was naturalized before 1850 who lived in town > of Esopus Ulster Co? > Thanks in advance for all help in this matter > Joan McNulty ===== Working on the following surnames: "Upstate NY": BARLOW BOMBARD BURDICK CARPENTER DOTY ELMS/EEMS EUSTIS GATES GOODWIN HALL HINCKLEY MARCOUX MOORE PILLING PRATT RUSSELL STEWART Quebec: BACQUET dit LAMONTAGNE BELANGER BOMBARD(IER) DALLAIRE DELAUNEY DOIGT GAGNON JOUINEAU LAMONTAIGNE LEBRUN dit CARRIER MAGNAN MARCOUX MERCIER MORAN/MORIN POETE de RAINVILLE ROI/ROY Dr. William Prescott of Concord NH wrote in 1870: "Each of these dates, of birth, marriage, death! How significant! What a day was each of those dates to some human family, or to some circle of loving human hearts!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- .the intent is to prevent further dissemination of a non-fact, much like virus hoaxes. -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- Dear listmembers The subject of my original post was "Genealogy research and (the fine line of) the law" - changing it to "It's the law" is misleading and inappropriate . So far this is not a further dissemination of non-fact - it was posted because I had never heard of it and wondered if anyone had. I had a chance to look at my notes from the meeting - the acting State Historian Dr. Joseph Meany said, "It is a matter of local law that municipal historians are forbidden to do genealogical research for any individual." Why I would have to interupt a very good speech to ask the top historian in the state for verification is beyond me - as is why reporting it to this list can be called "dissemination of non-fact." The historian's guidelines posted here earlier point to such research being discouraged. By law - or not - I don't know. (Incidently - neither the president nor the vice president of the Ulster county genealogical society - who were both present in the audience - interrupted to ask about that law either.) More significantly - I thought - was the remark his statement did generate. That was about the southern state building a new archives and opening it longer hours because of genealogy groups documenting the large amounts of money spent by researchers. That was from the head of the local government studies department in our community college. (He didn't ask if it really was a law either. His point - I believe - was that genealogical research was a "good" thing on many levels and shouldn't be illegal for historians - rather documented to improve the financial worth of municipal historian's positions, maybe even increase their budgets.) But - I didn't interrupt him to ask what he meant either. Everyone seemed to accept it - I certainly did. I just took notes and enjoyed the meeting. As I already asked - please don't shoot the messenger. Richard

Richard, Would it be possible to share this mailer with us? I was just going to ask someone on the list for info on the town historian of Shandakin, but this list might answer that and more. Is it in E-form so you could just put it on the list? If in print, will be glad to send sase and copying charges, eh? Daniel > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 99 15:22:27 -0500 > From: Richard Frisbie <hopefarm@hopefarm.com> > To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Genealogy and (the fine line of) the > law > > FYI - I created a mailer for the Greene and Ulster > County historians that > lists contact info for all the town clerks, other > town historians, > researchers, museums, societies, libraries, > newspapers, etc. - everything I > could think of for someone from away needing to > further their own research - ===== Working on the following surnames: "Upstate NY": BARLOW BOMBARD BURDICK CARPENTER DOTY ELMS/EEMS EUSTIS GATES GOODWIN HALL HINCKLEY MARCOUX MOORE PILLING PRATT RUSSELL STEWART Quebec: BACQUET dit LAMONTAGNE BELANGER BOMBARD(IER) DALLAIRE DELAUNEY DOIGT GAGNON JOUINEAU LAMONTAIGNE LEBRUN dit CARRIER MAGNAN MARCOUX MERCIER MORAN/MORIN POETE de RAINVILLE ROI/ROY Dr. William Prescott of Concord NH wrote in 1870: "Each of these dates, of birth, marriage, death! How significant! What a day was each of those dates to some human family, or to some circle of loving human hearts!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Looking for any information on Luman Brown born Jan 22 1861 in Dry Brook,Ulster County, NY. He died Feb. 29 1932 location unknown. His wife was Mary C. Dickman b. May 20, 1860 in New Kingston,Delaware Couunty, NY area and died April 17 1919. They had four sons, Robert, John A., Howard, and Arthur (my grandfather) and three daughters Viola, Mabel and Violet. Bob Brown mbrown@ulster.net

Hi List! Could anyone please point me in the direction for finding papers of a person who was naturalized before 1850 who lived in town of Esopus Ulster Co? Thanks in advance for all help in this matter Joan McNulty

-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Richard >> hi Richard , I did send a sase , with an offer to pay any fees needed , Just this month alone I have spent $60 in postage , with much more to come ..... fyi , I got 3 replies in todays mail , so they are trickling in ..... , Phil -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- Way to go Phil! That is considerate. I still wonder about that law though. Keep up the Great work. Richard

In a message dated 10/22/99 11:35:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hopefarm@hopefarm.com writes: << Dear Phil The reference to an historian's limited or zero budget is legitimate. I believe that if one doesn't send an SASE with any cold inquiry (not just to municipal historians) they have no right to expect a reply. <shrug> Just my opinion - don't take it personally. snip ...... Richard >> hi Richard , I did send a sase , with an offer to pay any fees needed , Just this month alone I have spent $60 in postage , with much more to come ..... fyi , I got 3 replies in todays mail , so they are trickling in ..... , Phil

-- [ From: Richard Frisbie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- << or have they roundfiled them , ' gothelp? ' Phil>> Dear Phil The reference to an historian's limited or zero budget is legitimate. I believe that if one doesn't send an SASE with any cold inquiry (not just to municipal historians) they have no right to expect a reply. <shrug> Just my opinion - don't take it personally. FYI - I created a mailer for the Greene and Ulster County historians that lists contact info for all the town clerks, other town historians, researchers, museums, societies, libraries, newspapers, etc. - everything I could think of for someone from away needing to further their own research - and told them to make copies as needed. You guessed it - most sent off the originals and the replacements I gave them! Richard

Regarding recent postings about the legality of historians doing genealogical research: The next time a historian or genealogist (or anyone else who should be "in the know") makes a statement and says "it's the law", ask the speaker for the chapter and verse of the law to which they are referring so that you can check it out yourself. If the speaker cannot do this, ask him or her for the basis on which they made the statement. All too often, statements of "it's the law" is based on heresay and is an irresponsible way to give a position credibility. This is in no way meant to cause a speaker embarrassment....the intent is to prevent further dissemination of a non-fact, much like virus hoaxes. Sincerely, Ginny Byron vbyron@ulster.net

I am looking for a copy of a book published in 1970 called The Genesis of the Allegers of Ulster Co., NY, Hunterdon Co., NJ and NE Pennsylvania, by Daniel E. Alleger. If anyone has a copy they would sell or is willing to xerox a copy for me please let me know (of course I would pay for the copies, etc). Also if anyone is willing to share information on the Allegers, please contact me. I am interested in Elizabeth Alleger, c. 1754-1825 (Benjamin, 1730-1777 (Ulster Co. to Hunterdon Co., NJ), Benjamin, c. 1700 - (Old Lyme, CT to Marbletown, Ulster Co., NY), Roger Alger, 1655-1725, Jonathan Alger, c. 1630 -) married to William Yorks of Hunterdon Co. and any other information people are willing to share. Thanks! Nancy Difazio