This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1363.2 Message Board Post: Betty, Check out Woodstock,ny back to 1850 for whispells

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rutledge, Hetzel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1076.3 Message Board Post: I am interested in the Hetzel family line if you have any information on them. There is a Barbara Elizabeth Hetzel married to a Jacob Geisler in Kingston but they moved down to Brooklyn. I have no information on who Barbara's parents were. The Fredrick Hetzel b. Jun 1871, age 28, married 6 yrs. in the 1900 Kingston Census ED#107, image 22, is married to a Maggie Rutledge b. Jan 1874, age 25. They are with her family, James 49, Martha 48, William 24, Edward 22, Sarah 15, Martha 9, Lilly(can't read my writing) 7. Other Hetzels I found in 1900 are John and George though if related would be his uncles. Anyway, please contact if you know anything about the Hetzels, thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5RB.2ACE/1363.1 Message Board Post: DEATH: OBIT: Kenneth C Whispell, 63, of 145 Boyer Bottom Road, died Friday, April 23, 2004 at Bloomsburg Hospital after a lengthy illness. He was born Jan 19 1941 in Noxen, son of the late Joseph and Edna (Derhammer) Whispell. DEATH: He graduated from Tunkhannock High School. He was in the U.S. Marine reserves. He retired from Duggan and Marcon in Wilkes-Barre. He was a member of the Christian Gospel Fellowship of Iola. He was an avid hunter and fisherman. He was on the Madison Township Planning Commission. He was a caring husband, father, grandfather and gr-grandfather. He was preceded in death by one brother, Joseph Whispell and two sisters, Laura White and Mildred Whispell. DEATH: He is survived by his wife, Sandra L Lawton, whom he married SZept 21 1962; one daughter, Stephanie and her husband Jim Hause of Millville; one son Jason and his wife, Trisha Whispell, of Bloomsburg; four grandchildren, Joshfua A Bacon, Matthew K Bacon, both of Millville; Kendra F Whispell and Emma C Whispell, both of Bloomsburg; four step-grandchildren, Destiny Hause, of Philadelphia; Jason Hause, of Florida; Kyla and Nicole Hause, of Berwick; one gr-grandson, Hunter A Bcon of Millville; three brothers, Richard Whispell of Tunkhannock; Robert Whispell of Moscow; Carl Whispell, of Harveys Lake; five sisters, Mrs Lee (Edna) Hoyt of Dallas; Mrs Charles (Mary) Havenstrite of Moscow; Mrs Richard (Joann) Newell of Tunkhannock; Mrs Mark (Berly) Sowers of North Carolina; Marie Martin, of Florida. DEATH: Services will be Mondat at 10 a.m. at the Christian Gospel Fellowship, with his pastor, the Rev. Paul Converse officiating, and the Rev. Walter Minto, Sr., who is retired, is assisting. Burial will be at Millville Cemetery. [Apr 23 2004-Times Leader, Wilkes Barre, PA

Gads. It's more like, is there a cemetery that DOESN'T have Houghtalings in it? Actually, Walker Valley is one that doesn't...That's a good old name in this area. It would take me forever...I don't have time for that much typing at the moment, so let me give you the cemeteries and how many at each: Esopus Port Ewen Cemetery--29 Hurley Hurley Cemetery--2 Old Hurley Burying Ground--12 Kingston First Reformed Dutch Church Ground--4 Cemetery on Albany Avenue--1 Houghtaling Cemetery--3 Marbletown Marbletown Reformed Dutch Church Ground--6 Saugerties Mountain View Cemetery--9 Schoonmaker Ground--1 Shandaken Markle Family Ground--1 Then there's a slew of entries where Houghtaling (or some variation in spelling) was a maiden name. There are only a couple entries for Eighmey: Shandaken Shandaken M.E. Church Ground Eighmey, Oscor B., June 10, 1862, 0-7-25; Phillip B., Jan 2, 1880, 4-2-10 Sons of Barnett and Fannie S. Coons Burying Ground Brownell, Luisina Eighmey, w. of I., Jan. 4, 1869, 32-9-26 Woodstock Woodstock Cemetery Eighmey, Barnet, Feb. 23, 1864, 80th yr. Eighmey, Rachel Booth, w. of Barnet?, Oct. 3 1872, 83 yrs (compiler's "?", not mine) All of the above are from "Old Gravestones of Ulster County" by Poucher & Terwilliger (1931) with Index by the Ulster Co Genealogical Society. "Ulster County Cemeteries" compiled by Florence Prehn and edited by Audry M. Klinkenberg has several Eighmy/Eighmey entries. Barnett Benson D Cosby H Daniel S Elias D Ella L Fannie S Joab L John L Lany Oscar B Philip Phillip B Ralph Elias Ruth Samuel B Daniel Now, back to the Houghtalings. My VanKeuren line is tied into the Houghtalings, so following is an outline descendant tree for 5 generations for the one I have the most on. Following him is another Houghtaling I simply had not tied in at this point, just in case it belongs with yours. Descendants of Jan Willemsse Hoogteeling 1 Jan Willemsse Hoogteeling b: Abt. 1625 in Loosdrecht, Holland, Netherlands d: Abt. 1702 .. +Barbara Jans b: Abt. 1628 in Loosdrecht, Holland, Netherlands .. 2 Willem Jansen Hoogteeling b: 1655 in Oosdrecht, Holland, Netherlands d: Bef. 1702 ...... +Ariaentie Samuels ....... 3 Samuel Hoogteeling b: Abt. 1679 ....... 3 Phillip Hoogteeling b: Abt. 1681 in Kingston, Ulster Co., NY ........... +Jeanneti Roosa b: October 06, 1675 in Hurley, Ulster Co., NY m: November 30, 1702 Kingston Dutch Reformed Church ............ 4 Ariaantje Hooghteeling b: Bef. September 10, 1704 ............ 4 Anna Margarieta Hooghteeling b: Bef. August 18, 1706 ............ 4 Catrina Hooghteeling b: Bef. June 20, 1708 ............ 4 Dina Hooghteeling b: Bef. May 07, 1710 ............ 4 Wilhelmus Hooghteeling b: Bef. July 08, 1711 ............ 4 Jannetjen Hooghteeling b: Bef. February 15, 1713 ............ 4 Rachel Hooghteeling b: Bef. May 01, 1715 ............ 4 Sara Hooghteeling b: Bef. October 11, 1717 ............ 4 Leah Hooghteeling b: Bef. December 20, 1719 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY d: Bef. 1774 Shawangunk, Ulster, NY ................ +Jacobus VanKeuren b: May 16, 1719 in Kingston, Ulster, NY m: May 16, 1741 Kingston Dutch Reformed Church, Kingston, Ulster, NY d: June 18, 1803 Shawangunk, Ulster, NY ................. 5 Jenneke VanKeuren b: Bef. June 20, 1742 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY ..................... +Wilhelmes Rosekrans m: July 01, 1775 Old Dutch Church at Shawangunk, Ulster Co., NY ................. 5 Zara VanKeuren b: Bef. January 27, 1745 ................. 5 Jacobus VanKeuren, Jr. b: Bef. October 26, 1746 ..................... +Lydia Swart m: February 13, 1773 Old Dutch Church at Shawangunk, Ulster Co., NY ................. 5 Sara VanKeuren b: Bef. February 12, 1749 ..................... +John Niewkerk m: April 06, 1776 Old Dutch Church at Shawangunk, Ulster Co., NY ................. 5 Elisabeth VanKeuren b: Bef. May 12, 1751 ..................... +Jacob Rosenkranz m: January 15, 1774 Old Dutch Church at Shawangunk, Ulster Co., NY ................. 5 Hazael VanKeuren b: March 29, 1753 in Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY d: October 30, 1836 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY ..................... +Yanneke Van Amburgh b: January 11, 1754 in Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY m: December 20, 1778 Shawangunk Dutch Reformed Church, Ulster Co, NY d: December 31, 1833 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY ................. 5 Reuben VanKeuren b: December 22, 1755 ..................... +Maria Terwilliger m: April 07, 1781 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY ................. 5 Phillip VanKeuren b: Bef. September 02, 1759 d: Abt. June 1786 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY ..................... +Sarah ................. 5 Tjerck VanKeuren b: Bef. May 30, 1762 d: 1810 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY ..................... +Leah Moule b: Bef. August 07, 1768 in Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY m: July 15, 1790 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY d: March 25, 1821 Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY ....... 3 Dina Hoogteeling b: Abt. 1683 ....... 3 Hiskea Hoogteeling b: Abt. 1686 ....... 3 Kezia Hoogteeling b: Abt. 1689 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY d: Bef. 1748 ........... +Cornelis VanKeuren b: Bef. June 03, 1694 in Ulster Co, NY m: December 29, 1718 Kingston Dutch Reformed Church ............ 4 Tjaatjen VanKeuren b: Bef. November 08, 1719 ............ 4 Hiskiah VanKeuren b: Bef. April 07, 1723 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY ................ +Catrina DuBois b: June 15, 1740 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY m: Abt. 1764 ................. 5 Hiskiah VanKeuren b: March 31, 1765 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY d: Bef. 1850 Esopus, Ulster Co, NY ..................... +Sarah Meier b: March 16, 1783 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY m: July 26, 1798 Kingston Dutch Reformed Church, Kingston, Ulster, NY d: May 16, 1850 Esopus, Ulster Co, NY ............ 4 Efraim VanKeuren b: Bef. February 14, 1725 ................ +Sarah Falkenburg ................. 5 Cornelis Efraim VanKeuren b: Bef. June 03, 1766 in Kingston, Ulster Co, NY ..................... +Maria Barbara Hamerslay b: in Albany, NY m: March 01, 1792 Kingston Dutch Reformed Church, Kingston, Ulster, NY ............ 4 Ariaantjen VanKeuren b: Bef. May 21, 1727 ............ 4 Unknown VanKeuren b: Bef. January 23, 1732 Descendants of Jeremiah Hoogtaling 1 Jeremiah Hoogtaling .. +Maria Roosa b: January 28, 1766 m: October 14, 1787 .. 2 Elsje Hoogtaling b: September 15, 1788 .. 2 Egbert Hoogtaling b: October 28, 1790 .. 2 Elizabeth Hoogtaling b: May 11, 1793 .. 2 Egbert Hoogtaling b: August 17, 1794 .. 2 Elizabeth Hoogtaling b: May 08, 1797 .. 2 Maria Hoogtaling b: December 15, 1799 .. 2 Ennie Hoogtaling b: October 20, 1802 Now I need to go get ready for a conference call. Happy hunting! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Bold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: [NYUlster] Walker Valley Cem > Lisa, if you happen to have the book of listings for this old cemetery, could > you look & see if there are any Houghtalings or Eighmeys listed? > Thank you very much. > Joy > *********************************************** > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:07:57 -0400 > From: "Lisa Stitt" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYUlster] Walker Valley Cem > > The Walker Valley Cemetery is right on Route 52 (the "main drag") in Walker > Valley, a hamlet in the Town of Shawangunk. For those in Orange County, you > get there by heading west on Route 52 from Pine Bush. The last time I was > there, I wasn't really looking at that cemetery, I was there for the Walker > Family Plot which is fenced in and is sandwiched between the Walker Valley > Cemetery and the street. It's not large, and, because it is set back from > the road, it could almost be missed if you aren't looking for it. If I > recall correctly, it is roughly across the street or kitty corner from a > white church. I have no idea who is responsible for it. > > There is a listing of Walker Valley Cemetery in "Old Gravestones of Ulster > County" by Poucher & Terwilliger (1931). There are only two Pecks buried > there at the time of this printing: > 1. Peck, Prosper, Co. A, 168 NY Inf. April 22 , 1884 87 yrs > 2. Peck, Rebecca, w. of Prosper, Aug 27 1862, 62 yrs > > Hope that helps you out. > > Lisa Stitt > Joy Bold >

I also would love to know if there are any LEWIS family members buried at that Walker Valley Cemetery if anyone has access to a listing for the cemetery. Thanks! BJ Shawd Email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Joy Bold [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYUlster] Walker Valley Cem Lisa, if you happen to have the book of listings for this old cemetery, could you look & see if there are any Houghtalings or Eighmeys listed? Thank you very much. Joy *********************************************** Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:07:57 -0400 From: "Lisa Stitt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYUlster] Walker Valley Cem The Walker Valley Cemetery is right on Route 52 (the "main drag") in Walker Valley, a hamlet in the Town of Shawangunk. For those in Orange County, you get there by heading west on Route 52 from Pine Bush. The last time I was there, I wasn't really looking at that cemetery, I was there for the Walker Family Plot which is fenced in and is sandwiched between the Walker Valley Cemetery and the street. It's not large, and, because it is set back from the road, it could almost be missed if you aren't looking for it. If I recall correctly, it is roughly across the street or kitty corner from a white church. I have no idea who is responsible for it. There is a listing of Walker Valley Cemetery in "Old Gravestones of Ulster County" by Poucher & Terwilliger (1931). There are only two Pecks buried there at the time of this printing: 1. Peck, Prosper, Co. A, 168 NY Inf. April 22 , 1884 87 yrs 2. Peck, Rebecca, w. of Prosper, Aug 27 1862, 62 yrs Hope that helps you out. Lisa Stitt Joy Bold

Lisa, if you happen to have the book of listings for this old cemetery, could you look & see if there are any Houghtalings or Eighmeys listed? Thank you very much. Joy *********************************************** Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:07:57 -0400 From: "Lisa Stitt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYUlster] Walker Valley Cem The Walker Valley Cemetery is right on Route 52 (the "main drag") in Walker Valley, a hamlet in the Town of Shawangunk. For those in Orange County, you get there by heading west on Route 52 from Pine Bush. The last time I was there, I wasn't really looking at that cemetery, I was there for the Walker Family Plot which is fenced in and is sandwiched between the Walker Valley Cemetery and the street. It's not large, and, because it is set back from the road, it could almost be missed if you aren't looking for it. If I recall correctly, it is roughly across the street or kitty corner from a white church. I have no idea who is responsible for it. There is a listing of Walker Valley Cemetery in "Old Gravestones of Ulster County" by Poucher & Terwilliger (1931). There are only two Pecks buried there at the time of this printing: 1. Peck, Prosper, Co. A, 168 NY Inf. April 22 , 1884 87 yrs 2. Peck, Rebecca, w. of Prosper, Aug 27 1862, 62 yrs Hope that helps you out. Lisa Stitt Joy Bold

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Curtin, O'Connell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1382 Message Board Post: My family has a history with Rosendale. Their name is Curtin. They spent many summers in Rosendale New York during the later part of the 19th century and early part of the 20th century. It is our impression they owned a house up there. They mentioned a family named Barrett that they were friendly with and I have often had the feeling that there was a family connection in Rosendale, if any Curtins or Barretts are still up in Rosendale and might know something, drop me a line. My grandfather visited Rosendale up until the early 1970's and used to visit a friend who owned a beer distributor or a brewery.

The Walker Valley Cemetery is right on Route 52 (the "main drag") in Walker Valley, a hamlet in the Town of Shawangunk. For those in Orange County, you get there by heading west on Route 52 from Pine Bush. The last time I was there, I wasn't really looking at that cemetery, I was there for the Walker Family Plot which is fenced in and is sandwiched between the Walker Valley Cemetery and the street. It's not large, and, because it is set back from the road, it could almost be missed if you aren't looking for it. If I recall correctly, it is roughly across the street or kitty corner from a white church. I have no idea who is responsible for it. There is a listing of Walker Valley Cemetery in "Old Gravestones of Ulster County" by Poucher & Terwilliger (1931). There are only two Pecks buried there at the time of this printing: 1. Peck, Prosper, Co. A, 168 NY Inf. April 22 , 1884 87 yrs 2. Peck, Rebecca, w. of Prosper, Aug 27 1862, 62 yrs Hope that helps you out. Lisa Stitt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: [NYUlster] Walker Valley Cem > Does anyone know where this cemetery is ? And does anyone have a listing of it ? Looking for PECK >

Does anyone know where this cemetery is ? And does anyone have a listing of it ? Looking for PECK

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vanguilder-Brannock(sp) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5RB.2ACE/1381 Message Board Post: Looking for confirmation that Cynthia Vanguilder married a Brannock? This is her line. Joseph VANGUILDER and Sarah HOLCOMB daughter Cynthia VANGUILDER, born 1873 in Whitehall, Washington, NY. Horace WINCHELL and Rosetta STARKS son John J VANGUILDER; born 1844 in Granville, Washington, NY; died 1907. Cynthia and John had a daughter unknown given up for adoption. I can be reached at [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1050.3 Message Board Post: i live in right next to kingston. i could go into the diner for you if you know the name. otherwise, i suggest you look up diners in the yellow pages and start calling . maybe that;ll help.

Headstones are interesting. I once saw one for an apparent hypochondriac which read: "I told you I was sick!" <grin> Jim Groat --------- "David E. Cann" wrote: > > If any one knows the answer to this, please post it to the list, because the List Admin is going to be curious about it now until he has an answer :~) > > As with most genealogists, I have a habit of sometimes wandering through cemeteries, whether or not I know anyone buried there. I once came across a similar headstone that read "Unknown daughter of God, Died 1888." Kind of sad, really, but it even had fresh flowers on it so someone was looking after it a great many years later. > > David > List Admin > > -----Original Message----- > From: peigi mulligan <[email protected]> > Sent: Apr 23, 2004 7:52 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYUlster] SLEEPING BEAUTY > > Does anyone know anything about SLEEPING BEAUTY, died 1947, Blue Mt Cemetery headstone? > > Thanks in advance, Peigi

If any one knows the answer to this, please post it to the list, because the List Admin is going to be curious about it now until he has an answer :~) As with most genealogists, I have a habit of sometimes wandering through cemeteries, whether or not I know anyone buried there. I once came across a similar headstone that read "Unknown daughter of God, Died 1888." Kind of sad, really, but it even had fresh flowers on it so someone was looking after it a great many years later. David List Admin -----Original Message----- From: peigi mulligan <[email protected]> Sent: Apr 23, 2004 7:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYUlster] SLEEPING BEAUTY Does anyone know anything about SLEEPING BEAUTY, died 1947, Blue Mt Cemetery headstone? Thanks in advance, Peigi

Does anyone know anything about SLEEPING BEAUTY, died 1947, Blue Mt Cemetery headstone? Thanks in advance, Peigi

Looking for information on ALICE OVERBAUGH, wife of HARRY OVERBAUGH b1908 in Cementon, d 1979. They are buried in Blue Mt Cem. Thanks in advance, Peigi

Does anyone have any information on the following family? According to 1930 Census, Spring St, Tannersville: NEWTON CURTIS EVA children: CLAYTON HENRY KENNY ELIZABETH EVA JAMES Thanks in advance, Peigi

Wondering if anyone would have info on Ulster Co 1800-1830 surname family KISTERN? I previously had e-mailed query, but had mis -spelled the name? Thanks, and forgive me for my typo and other errors. Jeannette

Wm Ball,who from 1728,lived in Philadelphia's Northern suburbs [Liberties], wrote a will in 1737,proved in 1740,and finished execution in 1755,that mentioned Ulster Co,NY land. His wife [2nd?] was a White,whose own will was 1768. His son,Wm's 1810 will,mentioned widely scattered lands. Wm Jr and brother,Samuel, were merchants. Sir Stanhope was also mentioned in Sr's will. While I know some of the history and families of Kingston-Esopus,NY,Ihave no idea what resources Ulster Co has available to learn more of Wm Ball, ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kritsinger, Greatsinger, Litts, Litz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5RB.2ACE/1294.2.1 Message Board Post: I have William Greatsinger born Dec. 22, 1793 in Ulster Co. NY and died March 26, 1887 in Chemung Co. NY. He married (1) Phebe Spencer bef. June 25, 1821 in Ulster Co. He married (2) Louise Whitlock aft. January 10, 1848 in Elmira, NY. She was daughter of Samuel Whitlock and R. Sanford. I do not show a "Susan" as a daughter of William. My records may very well be incomplete. I do show a "Sally Ann Greatsinger" born March 25, 1822. Could she be the same woman as your Susan? Your William b. 1793 was the son of Christian Greatsinger b. in Germany and d. bef. March 14, 1805 in Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. He had two wives. First wife was Susannah Myers, and they were the parents of your William and a Christian Jr. I show only these two children for Christian and Susannah. Christian's second wife was Anne Palmer or Parmer (I believe Parmer). I show 8 children for them. I am a descendant of TWO of their daughters, Susannah Greatsinger who married Benjamin Deyo and Maria/Polly Greatsinger who married Daniel Litts/Litz. Susannah and Benjamin Deyo lived at Bontecoe, which is on the Wallkill River northwest of New Paltz, NY. Benjamin was a descendant of the Deyo family of New Paltz. His father's house still stands. Among their children was a daughter Anna. Maria/Polly and Daniel Litts lived in Ulster Co., and then Schoharie County for a while, and then finally in old age moved to Oneida Co. NY, where both died. Daniel Litts fought as a teenager in the Rev War. Among their children was a son William Litts. The Anna Deyo and the William Litts (who were obviously first cousins) married, and I am a descendant of theirs. Would like to share Greatsinger or Kritsinger info with anyone. Name was originally either Kritsinger or Critsinger (German). They came into Ulster co. from Freehold in Monmouth Co., NJ. Would like more info on the whole family. Surname was Anglicized into Greatsinger, don't know by whom or why.