Anybody have and Corrections, additions, deletions, sources, comments, etc., ? I'm trying to make this family as complete and correct as possible... From Joe [email protected] Clearing House... Compulsive Genealogy Searcher, ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS, Van AUKEN & WAGNER =========================== __________ (RYDER) RIDER #5071, b. Abt 1725 in Probably NY. I. Linus (RYDER) RIDER #5070, b. 1755 in Probably Westchester Co., NY. d. 1831 in Probably Orange Co., NY. Linus came to Orange County from Westchester Co. between 1790 -1800. In 1790, Linus appears in Cortlandt, Westchester, NY. Also, there is a Joshua Rider. I think that Linus and Joshua were brothers...I assume that Linus moved when the land patent for Monroe was offered (Cheesecocks Patent)... A. Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069, b. 1787 in Probably NY. He married (1) Catherine POTTER #5129, b. 1790 in Probably NY, d. 1840 in Probably NY. He married (2) Ann HUNTER #5142, married Abt 1842 in Probably NY, b. Abt 1800 in Probably NY. Jacob died 1881. 1. William (RYDER) RIDER #5130, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1808 in Probably NY. 2. Hanna (RYDER) RIDER #5131, (daughter of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1810 in Probably NY. 3. Susan (RYDER) RIDER #5132, (daughter of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1813 in Probably NY. 4. Joshua (RYDER) RIDER #5133, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1815 in Probably NY. 5. Jessie (RYDER) RIDER #5134, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1818 in Probably NY. 6. Phebe (Phoebe) (RYDER) RIDER #5135, (daughter of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1821 in Probably NY. 7. Linus (RYDER) RIDER #5136, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1823 in Probably NY. 8. Jacob II (Henry J.) (RYDER) RIDER #5047, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1825 in Probably Orange Co., NY, occupation Blacksmith. He married Eliza LETTS #5054, b. 1823 in Probably NY, d. 1895 in Monroe, Orange Co., NY. Jacob died 1905 in Monroe, Orange Co., NY. Possibly #3727... Per 1880 census parents bn. NY... The name appears to change in late 1870's from RIDER to RYDER... Eliza: daughter of FRANCIS (MAYBE) and MARIA UNKNOWN... Per 1880 census parents bn. NY... a. Catherine (RYDER) RIDER #5053, b. ca 1850 in Probably Monroe, Orange Co., NY. b. Oliver (RYDER) RIDER #5052, b. ca 1851 in Probably Monroe, Orange Co., NY. c. Adeliah (RYDER) RIDER #5049, b. ca 1854 in Probably Monroe, Orange Co., NY. d. Maria (RYDER) RIDER #5050, b. ca 1858 in Probably Monroe, Orange Co., NY. e. Frank Letts (RYDER) RIDER #5048, b. 12 May 1859 in Monroe, Orange Co., NY, occupation Painter. He married Rachel JONES #5055, married 1880, b. 4 May 1864 in Harriman, Orange Co., NY, d. 11 Dec 1934 in Monroe, Orange Co., NY, buried: 14 Dec 1934 in Monroe Cem., Monroe, Orange Co., NY. Frank died 30 Mar 1921 in Monroe, Orange Co., NY, buried: 3 Apr 1921 in Monroe Cem., Monroe, Orange Co., NY. Death Certificate: # 17627... Children of FRANK RYDER and RACHEL JONES are: 3. i. THEODORE3 RYDER, b. May 30, 1904; d. September 05, 1959, Port Chester, NY. ii. RUBY RYDER, b. October 1890. iii. MINNIE RYDER, b. June 1892. iv. CLARENCE RYDER, b. April 1894. More About CLARENCE RYDER: Occupation: Painter v. HERBERT RYDER, b. May 1898. vi. FRANK RYDER, b. June 1899. vii. FRED RYDER, b. 1902. viii. BESSIE RYDER, b. 1907. ix. MAUDE RYDER, b. March 1884. More About MAUDE RYDER: Occupation: School Teacher x. ERNEST RYDER, b. June 1888. xi. VIOLA RYDER, b. June 1896. Generation No. 3 3. THEODORE3 RYDER (FRANK L.2, HENRY J.1) was born May 30, 1904, and died September 05, 1959 in Port Chester, NY. He married MIRIAM ESTHER OHLROGGE, daughter of HENRY HENNEFREND and ELLEN OLHROGGE. She was born May 17, 1906, and died September 16, 1982 in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. More About THEODORE RYDER: Burial: September 05, 1959, Greenwood-Union Cemetery, Rye, NY Residence: 34 South Regent Street, Port Chester, NY 10573-3531 More About MIRIAM ESTHER OHLROGGE: Burial: September 16, 1982, Greenwood-Union Cemetery, Rye, NY. Rachel: daughter of EDWARD JONES and MARY PARLIAMENT... f. Henrietta (RYDER) RIDER #5051, b. ca 1866 in Probably Monroe, Orange Co., NY. 9. Charles (RYDER) RIDER #5137, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1827 in Probably NY. 10. Abigail (Abigal) (RYDER) RIDER #5138, (daughter of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1829 in Probably NY. 11. James (RYDER) RIDER #5139, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1832 in Probably NY. 12. John Youngs (RYDER) RIDER #5140, (son of Jacob Henry (RYDER) RIDER #5069 and Catherine POTTER #5129) b. 1834. He married Sarah HUNTER #5141, married 4 Sep 1855 in Probably NY, b. 1837 in Probably NY, d. 1908 in Probably NY. John died 1913. Sarah: Descendants 3 Henrietta Ryder Lanning b: August 20, 1856 d: September 02, 1913 +Holloway Whitfield Lanning b: June 09, 1855 in Mamakating, Sulllivan Co. NY or Orange Co. NY m: Abt. 1873 in Rockland Co, N.Y. d: 1932 4 Nettie Lanning Abramson b: April 29, 1882 in Monroe, NY or Hillburn, NY d: November 13, 1960 in Valley Hospital, Ridgewood, N.J. +Albert Levi Abramson b: September 12, 1878 m: November 30, 1898 in Ramapo Reformed Church, Mahwah, N.J. d: May 24, 1954 in Paramus, N. J. 4 Eliza Lanning Alte b: August 01, 1884 d: 1922 +Joe Lawson *2nd Husband of Eliza Lanning Alte: +Otto Alte m: Unknown in ? 4 Mina Lanning Perry b: October 04, 1891 in Monroe, N.Y. d: Unknown +John Richard Perry b: Unknown m: Unknown in ? d: Unknown 4 Debbie Lanning Ketchum b: June 17, 1874 in N.Y. d: 1956 in Buried: Sloatsburg, N.Y. +Eugene G. Ketchum b: 1870 m: 1896 in ? d: 1956 4 Holloway W. Lanning, Jr. b: June 29, 1886 d: 1965 +Blanche Brooks Lanning b: 1888 in Yonkers, N.Y. m: Bef. 1909 in M.E. Parsonage Suffern, N.Y. 4 Youngs Ryder Lanning b: May 18, 1878 in Middletown, N.Y. d: 1962 in Hillburn, N.Y. +Clara Erb Lanning b: 1877 m: in Hillburn, N.Y. d: 1927 3 Leander Ryder b: 1858 d: 1889 3 Eugene Ryder b: 1860 d: 1929 3 Stephen Benjamin Ryder b: 1870 d: 1916 +Lulu Ketchum Ryder b: 1872 m: Unknown in ? d: 1905 4 Homer K. Ryder b: 1896 d: 1961 4 Virgil b: Unknown 4 Edgar b: Unknown 3 John Youngs Ryder II b: 1874 d: 1944 3 Mabel Ryder Ketchum b: 1876 d: 1935 +Ernest J. Ketchum b: 1874 m: Unknown in ? d: 1961 4 Sarah Lovisa Ketchum b: 1896 4 Earl Leland Ketchum b: 1904 d: 1965 4 Henrietta May Ketchum b: 1906 II. Joshua RIDER #5072, b. Abt 1756 in Probably NY. Probable child of these parents.... III. King RIDER #3707, b. 7 Oct 1767. He married Rosannah HUNTER #3708, married Abt 1790 in Probably NY, b. Abt 1770 in Probably NY. Immigrant... Later of Orange Co., NY... Rosannah: Best guess for birth date & location... A. Phebe (Phoebe) RIDER #3709, b. Abt 1790 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... Per Upper Mongaup Cem: KNIGHT, PHEBE (RIDER), d. Aug. 6, 1861, 60Y 2M 19D. B. James RIDER #3710, b. Abt 1790 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... Lydia Rider b 1825 Father James Rider b 1790 Cornwall, Orange CO, NY, Mother Nancy Campbell b 1800 Scotland d 1871, Mar 11/11/1817 Children: King b 12/07/1820, Jane b 1818, Mary Ann b 1821, Charity b 1823, Lydia b 1825 Source: Orange County Genealogial Society Files, Orange County Genealogical Society Newsletter Volume 15 No. 3 Page 20 November 1985, Portraits and Biolographical Record of Orange CO, NY, Chapman Publishing, New York 1895. C. Henry RIDER #3711, b. 22 Jun 1792 in Probably NY. He married Philadelphia COCK #3718, married Abt 1815 in Probably NY, b. 29 Oct 1796 in Probably NY, (daughter of Jacob COCK #5097 and Hannah TOWNSEND #5098) d. 1863 in Probably NY, buried: in Friends Bur. Gds, Windsor Falls, NY. Henry died 15 Jul 1874 in Probably NY, buried: in Friends Bur. Gds, Windsor Falls, NY. Philadelphia: Best guess for birth date & location... daughter of Jacob and Hannah (Cocks) COCK... 1. William H. RIDER #3719, b. 18 Aug 1816 in Probably NY, occupation Quaker. He married Susannah A. CORNELL #3729, married 31 May 1837 in Cornwall MM., Corwall, Orange Co., NY, b. Abt 1825 in Probably NY. Susannah: Best guess for birth date & location... Daughter of Daniel CORNELL & Sarah his wife (deceased by 1837) of Monroe, Orange Co., NY... a. Daniel C. RIDER #3730, b. Abt 1845 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... b. Hannah B. RIDER #3731, b. Abt 1845 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... c. Sarah C. RIDER #3732, b. Abt 1850 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... d. John T. RIDER #3733, b. Abt 1850 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... e. Mary Elizabeth RIDER #3734, b. Abt 1855 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... f. Harry RIDER #3735, b. Abt 1855 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... g. Harry Millard RIDER #3736, b. 16 Mar 1858 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. He married Alice Julia PRICE #3737, married Abt 1880 in Probably NY, b. Abt 1860 in Probably NY. ... Alice: Best guess for birth date & location... (1) Charles M. RIDER #3738, b. Abt 1880 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date... (2) George Price RIDER #3739, b. 16 Nov 1880 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. He married Nettie Sophia WADE #3741, married Abt 1910 in Probably NY, b. Abt 1885 in Probably NY. ... Nettie: Best guess for birth date & location... (3) Harriet Elizabeth RIDER #3740, b. Abt 1885 in Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 2. Hannah C. RIDER #3720, b. Abt 1820 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 3. John R. RIDER #3721, b. Abt 1820 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... Possibly this one...Methodist Church Shandaken Cemetery RIDER John , died March 8 1895 Age 75 years Sarah , his wife , died Nov. 23 1897 Age 83 years. 4. Charles RIDER #3722, b. Abt 1820 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 5. Jacob RIDER #3723, b. Abt 1820 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 6. Ann RIDER #3724, b. Abt 1825 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 7. Egbert RIDER #3725, b. Abt 1825 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 8. Mary RIDER #3726, b. Abt 1825 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 9. Henry Jr. RIDER #3727, b. Abt 1825 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... 10. Elizabeth RIDER #3728, b. Abt 1825 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... D. Esther (Ester) RIDER #3712, b. Abt 1795 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... E. Charity (Twin) RIDER #3713, b. Abt 1795 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... F. John T. (Twin) RIDER #3714, b. Abt 1795 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... G. Mary Ann RIDER #3715, b. 1802 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... H. Ann RIDER #3716, b. 1805 in Probably NY. She married William OWENS #5123, married 1838 in Probably NY, b. Abt 1805 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... had a son King Owens... I. Lydia RIDER #3717, b. Abt 1800 in Probably NY. Best guess for birth date & location... IV. Isaac RIDER #5124, b. Abt 1754. V. John RIDER #5125, b. 1757. He married Margaret KING #5126, b. Abt 1770 in Probably NY. A. Langford T. RIDER #5127, b. 1803 in Probably NY. VI. Jonathan RIDER #5128, b. 1759 in Probably NY. ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

Okay, Starting to hit walls .. I'm looking for any Mosher/Moshier/Mosier that could be a George or have a middle name George that could have a child in 1872 . Because I know in my family tree how some of the men and women liked to use thier middle name because they didnt like thier first name.

Who is the Historian in Marlborough ? I need to pick someone brains ..

I'm looking for a Mary or Mae or May Ferguson that could have had a child in 1872 and married a George Mosier/Mosher/Moshier

Does anyone have the link to the Matthais st john book that is online ? I had to reformated my computer

I'm looking at the 1870 Census Marlborough . I have a Elizabeth ST JOHN age 93 (1776) from ancestry .com but, it could be aage 83 . Does anyone know what kind of records that Marlborough has or a Historian I can write to or call ? It would be interesting if they had anything on her because her 2 sons married Indian women.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1430.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank- you so much for your help, hoping to find some living relatives.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1430.1 Message Board Post: Found a Waldo Larcom in 1930 census living in Dutchess County NY. Washington Township (Reservoir Drive) LARCOM Waldo M. 48 tree surgeon b.North Dakota Dorothy 35 music teacher - private pupils b. Mass. Marjorie 11 b.Conn.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1430 Message Board Post: Looking for info on the Waldo Larcom family. He died July of 1965 and had a daughter Marjorie. Any help would be appreciated

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1407.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Just thought I would post a reply to my own post here. I received a copy of the article about the murder from the Friends of Historic Rochester. (Uriah was the older brother of my great-grandfather Eugene Quick.) They have been most helpful. They are having a stone houses tour in the Town of Rochester on October 2, if anyone might be interested.

Roger, I am researching the Curtis family of Saugerties; Elizabeth/Eliza Curtis married Clark Winne. Are you interested in any of that information? Peigi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 6:33 PM Subject: [NYUlster] Re: Evelyn WINNIE > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/877.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Kevin > > hope this reaches you after all this time. > > US census seems to hold the answers. All born NY > > 1880 NY Ulster Rochester > Miller, John 43 > Rachel 38 > Clara 9 (think this is your Clara Winne) > > 1880 NY Ulster Rochester > William Winne 59 > Caroline (Lewis) 55 > George H. 19 (first husband of Clara) > > 1910 NY Ulster Esopus > Harvey L. Cooper 50 married twice 6yrs this marriage (Clara) > > Ancestry.com tree for Harvey L. Cooper reports that > Clara Winnie dau Rachel Miller b. 3 Jun 1870 Samsonville, Ulster Co., NY > > I am a Winne researcher but have not yet been able to identify the parents of William Winne (father of George H.) > > Let me know if this reaches you and if this looks like a match for your Clara and George H. Perhaps we can turn over some rocks and link this back to Pieter Winne (who was in the Albany, NY area in 1652)! > > Roger Winner > > email: [email protected] > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/877.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Kathleen George H and Charles O are siblings 1880 NY Ulster Rochester William Winne 59 Caroline (Lewis) 55 George H. 19 Charles O. 15 Viola 12 Lucy 11 1930 NY Kings Brooklyn Winnie, Charles O 64 b. NY Parents b. NY Lydia 64 NY parents b. Ireland Maud L. 35 (should be 39) NY 1900 NY Ulster Olive Winne, Charles O b. Mar 1865 married 12 yrs Lydia b. Jan 1866 Maud L. b. mar 1889 Charles and Lydia are in Brooklyn in 1910 and 1920 census Hope this helps See my comment on William in above respone Roger Winner email: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/877.1.2 Message Board Post: Kevin hope this reaches you after all this time. US census seems to hold the answers. All born NY 1880 NY Ulster Rochester Miller, John 43 Rachel 38 Clara 9 (think this is your Clara Winne) 1880 NY Ulster Rochester William Winne 59 Caroline (Lewis) 55 George H. 19 (first husband of Clara) 1910 NY Ulster Esopus Harvey L. Cooper 50 married twice 6yrs this marriage (Clara) Ancestry.com tree for Harvey L. Cooper reports that Clara Winnie dau Rachel Miller b. 3 Jun 1870 Samsonville, Ulster Co., NY I am a Winne researcher but have not yet been able to identify the parents of William Winne (father of George H.) Let me know if this reaches you and if this looks like a match for your Clara and George H. Perhaps we can turn over some rocks and link this back to Pieter Winne (who was in the Albany, NY area in 1652)! Roger Winner email: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Perse,Persen,Overbaugh Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1429 Message Board Post: Seek information re Julia Catherine Perse (?) who married Lewis Overbaugh. Is she from one of the Persen families of Catskill? Found the John Persen family listed in the history of the town of Saugerties.Persen family also listed in the Sheen Family Ancestry.Thanks.Eunice Vittum

I'm looking for info on Daniel H. ELLIS. He was supposedly born in MA. He married Rebecca RUMP "ca 1826" in Montgomery, Orange Co. NY (according to the records of the Brick Reformed Church). She was a daughter of Christian RUMP. They had one child, a son named Daniel C. F. ELLIS, born in Crawford, Orange Co. NY ca 1827. Rebecca may have died in childbirth, since she died 7 Mar 1827 and is buried in the Brick Reformed Church Cemetery in Montgomery. Did Daniel remarry? There was a Daniel H. ELLIS on the 1840 census in Shawangunk, Ulster Co. NY. Was that him? Son Daniel was living in Canton, Norfolk Co. MA in July 1850, but I don't find evidence that his father was there. I appreciate any help. Vickie Elam White [email protected]

Looking for info on Anna Catharina THEIS (or TICE), first wife of Johannes Peter RUMP of Montgomery, Orange Co. NY. According to the records in the Dutch (German) Reformed Church there, Johannes and Anna Catharina had 3 children: Henry b bef 1756, Johannes b. ca 1756, and Christian b. ca 1758. Anna died before Nov 1773, and Johannes remarried to Margaret KLEIN. They also had 3 sons. My husband descends from son Christian RUMP. Any help appreciated. Vickie Elam White [email protected]

I have put most of what I know of my Ulster / Orange Staples line on the listed web site. I would be interested sharing further info. with anyone connected thru descendants of David Staples who came to Ulster County from Fairfield, Conn. abt 1795. Some of the family later lived in Newburgh Township. Bill Staples, WE (Worker Emeritus) [email protected] Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes. Researching Staples, Morgan, Cosman, Wygant, Sherwood in Ulster County,NY and Fairfield County, Conn. Holmes, Elms, DeHart on Staten Island,NY. Web Site: http://wcs53.home.comcast.net

LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON: Phillip Shultis 1808-1885 Catherine Sagendorf, 1st wife 1814-1855 Margaret Maria Sagendorf, 2nd wife 1829- All are buried in Woodstock Cemetery. son: Luther Shultis & spouse Lottie Bergland; g'son: Benjamin Shultis & spouse Maya/Maza Elting; Any info greatly appreciated. Peigi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Census Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5RB.2ACE/1428 Message Board Post: Ulster County, New York 1892 - 93 Directory is now online here: http://distantcousin.com/Directories/NY/UlsterCounty/1892_3/

Does anyone know any Birdsall that I can talk to in the Plattekill, UC.,NY area that is into genealogy ? I figured I would try..