I think the original thread was one Amy was trying to help me with. The Syntje Elmendorf in question was born around May 28, 1762, somewhere in New York State, probably Ulster. She died October 24, 1805, maybe Shawangunk, maybe Kingston or Lloyd. She married William Benson around 1785. She married after his death to (I believe) John van Decker. I know at least he was van Decker sometime around 1800. Any help is greatly appreciated. Edward Otte Hi Amy, There are 35 marriages for Elmendorf or similar spellings listed in the Old Dutch Church Marriages. Send me the name of the person you are researching and I will check my book for Syntje. Richard ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you would like to see advertised in this space? Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Amy, There are 35 marriages for Elmendorf or similar spellings listed in the Old Dutch Church Marriages. Send me the name of the person you are researching and I will check my book for Syntje. Richard

Thanks, what can I say? I would mind the $60 for the book but I generally like it to be topical for my growing genealogical library. "Sintje" has many variants, like "Syntze" "Sijtje" "Cyntje" etc. You have to have a minor in linguistics or something like that to keep track of Hollander names! I appreciate the effort. This is a major road block to an otherwise full New York State family tree. Ed Edward, The Kingston Dutch Church records used to be available online also, but when I tried to find the site for you to go to, it was no longer there. I did a search of my copy of those records trying to see if I could find Syntjie hooked to an Elmendorf family there, maybe as a witness for a baptism or something like that. Maybe even another Syntjie married to an Elmendorf that she could have been named after. There was no indciation of a Syntjie under various spellings hooked with any Kingtson Dutch Reformed Church Elmendorf families. I thought this might save you a purchase if that was the only reason to purchase a book. There are alot of Elmendorf families listed there though. Amy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nyulster-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nyulster@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: NYULSTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 6 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:26:38 -0500 > From: Edward Otte <edotte@optonline.net> > Subject: [NY-ULSTER] Ulster Benson's and Elmendorf's > To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <0JC000MQVFSE6200@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have had a road block for a while now with a certain part of my family > tree in Lloyd/ Highland/ New Paltz. I joined the Ulster Historical Society > and did some research at their library and could not find much. I am > hoping > maybe someone on this board might have a clue, or idea where to look next. > > > > The story begins with the somewhat better documented ancestor Charles > Benson; b. April 1846, (probably New Paltz) Ulster County; m. August 15, > 1869, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ. I do not have his birth certificate and in > all reality it probably does not exist. > > > > The names of his parents was John Benson; possibly born Oct. 1788, > possibly > Ulster County, m. between 1830 and 1845; died after 1870, probably Lloyd > or > Highland. His wife (he may have had more than one) was Hannah, b. about > 1800, d. about 1855, Ulster County. All I have on Hannah is a death > certificate citation and an 1850 Census. > > > > Now it does seem probable that William Benson and Syntje Elmendorf were > his > parents. It is likely William was born April 4, 1761 and died January 29, > 1799, Ulster County. Syntje was likely born May 28, 1762 and died October > 24, 1805. These records come from the Shawangunk Reformed Church, as does > John Benson's birth record. These two are my direct road block. Any help > would be appreciated. The name Elmendorf seems very common along the > Hudson > River especially in Kingston area. But Syntje/ Sintje/ Sintie and all of > its > possible variants is elusive. Benson is a common name and there are a host > of possibilities but none has yet seemed viable. The only possibility is > Jacob Benson and Judah Tinkham of Amenia, Dutchess. > > > > Edward Otte > ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you would like to see advertised in this space? Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Edward, The Kingston Dutch Church records used to be available online also, but when I tried to find the site for you to go to, it was no longer there. I did a search of my copy of those records trying to see if I could find Syntjie hooked to an Elmendorf family there, maybe as a witness for a baptism or something like that. Maybe even another Syntjie married to an Elmendorf that she could have been named after. There was no indciation of a Syntjie under various spellings hooked with any Kingtson Dutch Reformed Church Elmendorf families. I thought this might save you a purchase if that was the only reason to purchase a book. There are alot of Elmendorf families listed there though. Amy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nyulster-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nyulster@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:00 PM Subject: NYULSTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 6 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:26:38 -0500 > From: Edward Otte <edotte@optonline.net> > Subject: [NY-ULSTER] Ulster Benson's and Elmendorf's > To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <0JC000MQVFSE6200@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have had a road block for a while now with a certain part of my family > tree in Lloyd/ Highland/ New Paltz. I joined the Ulster Historical Society > and did some research at their library and could not find much. I am > hoping > maybe someone on this board might have a clue, or idea where to look next. > > > > The story begins with the somewhat better documented ancestor Charles > Benson; b. April 1846, (probably New Paltz) Ulster County; m. August 15, > 1869, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ. I do not have his birth certificate and in > all reality it probably does not exist. > > > > The names of his parents was John Benson; possibly born Oct. 1788, > possibly > Ulster County, m. between 1830 and 1845; died after 1870, probably Lloyd > or > Highland. His wife (he may have had more than one) was Hannah, b. about > 1800, d. about 1855, Ulster County. All I have on Hannah is a death > certificate citation and an 1850 Census. > > > > Now it does seem probable that William Benson and Syntje Elmendorf were > his > parents. It is likely William was born April 4, 1761 and died January 29, > 1799, Ulster County. Syntje was likely born May 28, 1762 and died October > 24, 1805. These records come from the Shawangunk Reformed Church, as does > John Benson's birth record. These two are my direct road block. Any help > would be appreciated. The name Elmendorf seems very common along the > Hudson > River especially in Kingston area. But Syntje/ Sintje/ Sintie and all of > its > possible variants is elusive. Benson is a common name and there are a host > of possibilities but none has yet seemed viable. The only possibility is > Jacob Benson and Judah Tinkham of Amenia, Dutchess. > > > > Edward Otte >

Maybe that will help. I just need to find the book now. Thanks. Ed -----Original Message----- From: nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hayes Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:02 AM To: nyulster@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-ULSTER] Elmendorf's Hi Edward, There are Elmendorfs listed in Old Dutch Church records of the Kingston Reformed Church. The book is by Roswell R. Hoes. The book has baptisms and marriages from 1664 to 1809. Richard I have had a road block for a while now with a certain part of my family tree in Lloyd/ Highland/ New Paltz. I joined the Ulster Historical Society and did some research at their library and could not find much. I am hoping maybe someone on this board might have a clue, or idea where to look next. The story begins with the somewhat better documented ancestor Charles Benson; b. April 1846, (probably New Paltz) Ulster County; m. August 15, 1869, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ. I do not have his birth certificate and in all reality it probably does not exist. The names of his parents was John Benson; possibly born Oct. 1788, possibly Ulster County, m. between 1830 and 1845; died after 1870, probably Lloyd or Highland. His wife (he may have had more than one) was Hannah, b. about 1800, d. about 1855, Ulster County. All I have on Hannah is a death certificate citation and an 1850 Census. Now it does seem probable that William Benson and Syntje Elmendorf were his parents. It is likely William was born April 4, 1761 and died January 29, 1799, Ulster County. Syntje was likely born May 28, 1762 and died October 24, 1805. These records come from the Shawangunk Reformed Church, as does John Benson's birth record. These two are my direct road block. Any help would be appreciated. The name Elmendorf seems very common along the Hudson River especially in Kingston area. But Syntje/ Sintje/ Sintie and all of its possible variants is elusive. Benson is a common name and there are a host of possibilities but none has yet seemed viable. The only possibility is Jacob Benson and Judah Tinkham of Amenia, Dutchess. ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you would like to see advertised in this space? Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Edward, There are Elmendorfs listed in Old Dutch Church records of the Kingston Reformed Church. The book is by Roswell R. Hoes. The book has baptisms and marriages from 1664 to 1809. Richard I have had a road block for a while now with a certain part of my family tree in Lloyd/ Highland/ New Paltz. I joined the Ulster Historical Society and did some research at their library and could not find much. I am hoping maybe someone on this board might have a clue, or idea where to look next. The story begins with the somewhat better documented ancestor Charles Benson; b. April 1846, (probably New Paltz) Ulster County; m. August 15, 1869, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ. I do not have his birth certificate and in all reality it probably does not exist. The names of his parents was John Benson; possibly born Oct. 1788, possibly Ulster County, m. between 1830 and 1845; died after 1870, probably Lloyd or Highland. His wife (he may have had more than one) was Hannah, b. about 1800, d. about 1855, Ulster County. All I have on Hannah is a death certificate citation and an 1850 Census. Now it does seem probable that William Benson and Syntje Elmendorf were his parents. It is likely William was born April 4, 1761 and died January 29, 1799, Ulster County. Syntje was likely born May 28, 1762 and died October 24, 1805. These records come from the Shawangunk Reformed Church, as does John Benson's birth record. These two are my direct road block. Any help would be appreciated. The name Elmendorf seems very common along the Hudson River especially in Kingston area. But Syntje/ Sintje/ Sintie and all of its possible variants is elusive. Benson is a common name and there are a host of possibilities but none has yet seemed viable. The only possibility is Jacob Benson and Judah Tinkham of Amenia, Dutchess.

I have had a road block for a while now with a certain part of my family tree in Lloyd/ Highland/ New Paltz. I joined the Ulster Historical Society and did some research at their library and could not find much. I am hoping maybe someone on this board might have a clue, or idea where to look next. The story begins with the somewhat better documented ancestor Charles Benson; b. April 1846, (probably New Paltz) Ulster County; m. August 15, 1869, Jersey City, Hudson, NJ. I do not have his birth certificate and in all reality it probably does not exist. The names of his parents was John Benson; possibly born Oct. 1788, possibly Ulster County, m. between 1830 and 1845; died after 1870, probably Lloyd or Highland. His wife (he may have had more than one) was Hannah, b. about 1800, d. about 1855, Ulster County. All I have on Hannah is a death certificate citation and an 1850 Census. Now it does seem probable that William Benson and Syntje Elmendorf were his parents. It is likely William was born April 4, 1761 and died January 29, 1799, Ulster County. Syntje was likely born May 28, 1762 and died October 24, 1805. These records come from the Shawangunk Reformed Church, as does John Benson's birth record. These two are my direct road block. Any help would be appreciated. The name Elmendorf seems very common along the Hudson River especially in Kingston area. But Syntje/ Sintje/ Sintie and all of its possible variants is elusive. Benson is a common name and there are a host of possibilities but none has yet seemed viable. The only possibility is Jacob Benson and Judah Tinkham of Amenia, Dutchess. Edward Otte

You would get the death certificate after 1880 from the Town Registrar where they died. I think Wurtsboro is in Town of Mamakating. The Historian might have a church, cemetery or bible record but not usually birth, marriage or death certificates. The Registrar also has the birth certificates. The Town Clerk has the marriage certificates. Sometimes the Town Clerk and the Registrar are the same person. Carol -----Original Message----- From: nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leslie M. Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:41 PM To: NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-ULSTER] Death certificate help ! I was looking on ancestry and found my Great Great Great Grandmother death Sarah A. Squier d. Feb. 13 , 1880 wife of Albert , Town of Shawangunk . But, I know in 1850-1860 Census there are in Mamakating , SC.,NY (Wurtsboro) . But, in 1870 can't find her at all. I was wondering what historian or someone that I can find that maybe has more information on her. Also another question I have another date april 22 , 1884 (Prosper Peck) , and they lived in Wurtsboro . So, where could I send a request for a look for his death certificate ? ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you would like to see advertised in this space? Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was looking on ancestry and found my Great Great Great Grandmother death Sarah A. Squier d. Feb. 13 , 1880 wife of Albert , Town of Shawangunk . But, I know in 1850-1860 Census there are in Mamakating , SC.,NY (Wurtsboro) . But, in 1870 can't find her at all. I was wondering what historian or someone that I can find that maybe has more information on her. Also another question I have another date april 22 , 1884 (Prosper Peck) , and they lived in Wurtsboro . So, where could I send a request for a look for his death certificate ?

I am seeking any and all information pertaining to Samuel Givens and his son, Joseph Givens. I have the following information and (naturally) want more. parents, siblings, children, spouses, etc. ============================================= Pledge of Association May 8, 1775 New Windsor, Ulster County N.Y. Samuel Given The Pledge of Association was an oath or pledge taken by colonists to support the revolution. There were a number of locations and communities that did this. If they did not sign or take the oath they were a Tory. It basically meant that they were committing treason, and could have led to very serious consequences, particularly if the colonists had lost! ========================================================== According to the U.S. National Archives & Records Administration - Military Service Records - Samuel Givens was a Private in 5 New York Regiment - Captain Philip D. Bevier's Co. of Foot, in Regiment commanded by Col. Lewis Duboys. He enlisted on Feb 25, 1777 for a period of 3 years Company Muster Roll July 1, 1777 on duty Company Muster Roll Sept 2, 1777 on duty Company Muster Roll Oct 6, 1777 missing Company Muster Roll Nov 1, 1777 missing List of Deserters, Dead, and Prisoners Capt. Bevier's company Oct 6, 1777 Pris'r or dead ========================================================================== Ulster County, N.Y. Probate Records in the Office of the Surrogate, and in the County Clerk's Office at Kingston, N.Y. GIVENS,SAMUEL, late a Private in Col. Dubois Reg., deceased intestate. Adm. granted, July 16, 1788, to Joseph Givens, of Montgomery, labourer, a son of said Samuel Givens.--Adm. bond, L200, by said Joseph, Alexander McCoy, same place, Innkeeper, and Justus Banks, of Shawangunk, merchant Liber A., page 15, Estate Box 3. =================================== Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patricia Givens Warner-Woolschlager

I just checked this out. You can view the index for free, but to go further you have to register and pay. I have ancestors that came from England during this time period. Carol -----Original Message----- From: nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Connors Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:56 AM To: Albany list; nyulster-l@rootsweb.com; nywayne-l@rootsweb.com; NYRENSSE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-ULSTER] New passenger lists online Findmypast.com, in association with The National Archives, is proud to present ancestorsonboard, a new database featuring BT27 Outward Passenger Lists for long-distance voyages leaving the British Isles from 1960 right back to 1890. With ancestorsonboard, you can search for records of individuals or groups of people leaving for destinations including Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, South Africa and USA featuring ports such as Boston, Philadelphia and New York. Passengers include not only immigrants and emigrants, but also businessmen, diplomats and tourists. Images of the passenger lists are available to download, view, save and print. This is suppose to have a free search ability, would love to hear (on the list) about experiences using this program. You can find it at: http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you would like to see advertised in this space? Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Findmypast.com, in association with The National Archives, is proud to present ancestorsonboard, a new database featuring BT27 Outward Passenger Lists for long-distance voyages leaving the British Isles from 1960 right back to 1890. With ancestorsonboard, you can search for records of individuals or groups of people leaving for destinations including Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, South Africa and USA featuring ports such as Boston, Philadelphia and New York. Passengers include not only immigrants and emigrants, but also businessmen, diplomats and tourists. Images of the passenger lists are available to download, view, save and print. This is suppose to have a free search ability, would love to hear (on the list) about experiences using this program. You can find it at: http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

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To see these photographs click on "NEXT" on the first page of the website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ and then click on "TOURS" on the left side of the next screen. Also, you can search your surnames in the following additional records transcribed by TIGS members and other volunteers. These data bases are part of a continuing effort by the Troy Irish Genealogy Group to make available on line, Troy and other nearby area Irish AND non-Irish records, that may be of interest to genealogy researchers, especially those outside the Capital District Area. Burden Iron Company Steam Mill Payroll Records. (8,236 names) Troy Area Marriage Records. (1,448 names) Troy Area Death Records. (6,031 names) Index-History of the Troy Police Department. (668 names) Bank Officers in Troy Banks From 1801-1891. (299 names) Prominent Citizens of Troy, NY & Rensselaer County. (1,800 names) Representative Young Irish-Americans of Troy, NY - 1899 (400 names) Deceased Troy, NY Area Individuals Listed in 1902 City Directory (700 names) (Note: Another 700 death records from the 1903 City Directory will shortly be added to this database) Alderman/Assistants In Troy, NY (1,400 names) M. The next step in the Marriage Index Project will be Volume III, which is another 5,000 records and 10,000 names. Volume III covers Rensselaer County marriages from May 1918 to April 1920. If you want to be added to the list of volunteer transcribers, send an email off list to: seamus@nycap.rr.com with your name, address and telephone number. You will be contacted when work on Volume III starts in a few months time. N. TIGS would like to hear from you if this marriage index was helpful in your family research. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

I've "rescued" two old photographs belonging to the WOOLSEY Family of Ulster County, New York. The first photograph is one of David WOOLSEY which was taken at the T. D. Lewis Studio in Kingston, NY. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with David likely in his 50's or 60's at the time. In addition to his name, someone has written "My Great Grandpa" and what appears to be the word "Hunst". The second photograph is one of Susan WOOLSEY, taken at the same studio in Kingston, likely at the same time in the 1880's. Susan appears to be in her 40's or 50's at the time. In addition to her name, someone has also written "My great Grandma" and the word "Hunst" on the back of the photograph. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding this couple: David E. WOOLSEY b. 13 Feb 1823 in Lloyd, NY, his father was Clinton WOOLSEY. Census records provide the following information: 1860 census of Marbletown, NY: David E. WOOLSEY, age 38, a Farmer, born NY Susan J. WOOLSEY, age 27, born NY Willet WOOLSEY, age 7, born NY John WOOLSEY, age 5, born NY Mary A. WOOLSEY, age 3, born NY Mariah ELSWORTH, age 16, a Servant, born NY Jacob VANDEMARK, age 18, a Laborer, born NY 1870 census of Hurley, NY: David E. WOOLSEY, age 48, a Farmer, born NY Susan WOOLSEY, age 33, Keeping House, born NY Willett WOOLSEY, age 17, Farm Laborer, born NY John P. WOOLSEY, age 15, Farm Laborer, born NY Mary A. WOOLSEY, age 13, at Home, born NY Beatrice WOOLSEY, age 5, at Home, born NY Ira WOOLSEY, age 3, at Home, born NY Henry OAKLEY, age 20, Farm Laborer, born NY 1880 census of Hurley, NY: David E. WOOLSEY, age 57, born NY, a Farmer, parents born NY Susan J. WOOLSEY, wife, age 46, born NY, Keeping House, parents born NY John P. WOOLSEY, son, age 25, born NY, a Farmer Mary A. WOOLSEY, dau, age 23, born NY, at Home Beatta WOOLSEY, dau, age 15, born NY Ira WOOLSEY, son, age 12, born NY Arthur WOOLSEY, son, age 3, born NY Virgil AVERY, other, age 23, born NY, a Farm Laborer, parents born NY Granville VANDEMARK, age 21, born NY, a Farm Laborer, parents born NY I am hoping to locate someone from this WOOLSEY Family so that these photographs can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Thank you for that information. I've already sent her a note of support. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they'd adjust the availability! Lisa Stitt Middletown, NY -----Original Message----- From: nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyulster-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill & Cathy McGrath Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:47 PM To: NY-HUDSONRV-L@rootsweb.com; ny-irish@rootsweb.com; ny-mOHAWK-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com; ny-southern@rootsweb.com; nyalbany@rootsweb.com; NEWYORK-L-request@rootsweb.com; nychenan@rootsweb.com; nycolumb@rootsweb.com; NYRENSSE-L@rootsweb.com; nysarato@rootsweb.com; nyschene@rootsweb.com; NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com; nyschoha@rootsweb.com; GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com; irish-ny-troy@rootsweb.com; nydutche-L@rootsweb.com; nywestch@rootsweb.com; ny-warwashsar@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-ULSTER] NYS Library Possible Weekend Hours As a genealogy researcher I am sure you would love to be able to utilize the wonderful research material available at the New York State Library in Albany during the weekend. This would make it so much easier for out of state travelers and especially for those local researchers who work full time. Please read the following two items that deal with an effort to have weekend hours at the library and if you see, fit please write a letter, email or fax as requested below. As a presentation to the Regents on this topic is being made on January 8, time is of the utmost importance. If this proposal for weekend hours interest you, send an email or fax before January 8 to have your voice heard. Thanks, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY Email From Jeanne Keefe - Troy Irish Genealogy Webmaster Hello Everyone: On Friday I received this email from Loretta Ebert, Director, New York State Library and I am asking for your help. Loretta, who was previously my Director of Libraries at RPI, moved on to the NYS Library last summer and before she left Rensselaer I asked her to look into the possibility of keeping the NYS library open for one day over the weekend. Since most of us work 9-5, M-F, we are unable to do any research at our State Library because we can't get there when its open during the week. I also mentioned that many genealogists travel to the Albany-Troy-Schenectady area to do family research and are severely limited by the library's present schedule. Weekend hours, even if only one day, would allow more of us to access the very important resources that are only available at the NYS Library. In September, I met Loretta and she mentioned that she was encountering some resistance to the idea, but felt confident that she would be able to open the library, maybe on Saturdays, at some point late in the Fall. In the following letter you will see that she is asking for some help in convincing the Board of Regents to allow her to open the library on the weekend and has asked for letters (or emails)in support of this move. Please read her letter below and take a few minutes to mail, email or fax a brief letter to Loretta in support of her initiative. I think it is a very important opportunity for genealogists and historians to have their concerns voiced and research needs recognized. This is also a unique opportunity to be involved in a change that has the potential to improve access to these important records and resources, especially for those of us needing to do family research in the New York State Library. For more information about the NYS Research Library's genealogy collections use this link: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gengen.htm.Thank you all very much, in advance, for taking the time to read this and I hope you can take a few minutes to send Loretta a response by the end of the week. Jeanne Keefe TIGS Webmaster and Visual Resources Librarian Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Architecture Library 100 8th Street, Greene 326 Troy,, NY 12180 tel: 518-276-2727 email: keefej@rpi.edu Email From Director, New York State Library Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Library Cultural Education Center - Rm 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 518-473-1189 LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov Hi Jeanne, Happy New Year! I am preparing a presentation to the Regents in early January (8th) about opening the library on Saturdays. As I recall, you were supportive of this idea. I wonder if you would be willing to send a letter to me advocating extended hours for the library, citing difficulties with the current Monday-Friday 9 to 5 schedule and the lack of access to the "wonderful" resources of the New York State Library. Use whatever perspectives you have: librarian, genealogist, local historian, or all of them! I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you know of others who could provide similar supportive letters, would you ask them to send such to me too, or let me know their names? Thanks so much for your help, I think these kinds of testimonials are most effective with the power structure around here. My contact info: Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Research Library Cultural Education Center Room 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 Email (an email attachment is okay): LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov or FAX: 518-486-6880 Thanks a million! Loretta ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you would like to see advertised in this space? Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a genealogy researcher I am sure you would love to be able to utilize the wonderful research material available at the New York State Library in Albany during the weekend. This would make it so much easier for out of state travelers and especially for those local researchers who work full time. Please read the following two items that deal with an effort to have weekend hours at the library and if you see fit, please write a letter, email or fax as requested below. As a presentation to the Regents on this topic is being made on January 8, time is of the utmost importance. If this proposal for weekend hours interest you, send an email or fax before January 8 to have your voice heard. Thanks, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY Email From Jeanne Keefe - Troy Irish Genealogy Webmaster Hello Everyone: On Friday I received this email from Loretta Ebert, Director, New York State Library and I am asking for your help. Loretta, who was previously my Director of Libraries at RPI, moved on to the NYS Library last summer and before she left Rensselaer I asked her to look into the possibility of keeping the NYS library open for one day over the weekend. Since most of us work 9-5, M-F, we are unable to do any research at our State Library because we can't get there when its open during the week. I also mentioned that many genealogists travel to the Albany-Troy-Schenectady area to do family research and are severely limited by the library's present schedule. Weekend hours, even if only one day, would allow more of us to access the very important resources that are only available at the NYS Library. In September, I met Loretta and she mentioned that she was encountering some resistance to the idea, but felt confident that she would be able to open the library, maybe on Saturdays, at some point late in the Fall. In the following letter you will see that she is asking for some help in convincing the Board of Regents to allow her to open the library on the weekend and has asked for letters (or emails)in support of this move. Please read her letter below and take a few minutes to mail, email or fax a brief letter to Loretta in support of her initiative. I think it is a very important opportunity for genealogists and historians to have their concerns voiced and research needs recognized. This is also a unique opportunity to be involved in a change that has the potential to improve access to these important records and resources, especially for those of us needing to do family research in the New York State Library. For more information about the NYS Research Library's genealogy collections use this link: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gengen.htm.Thank you all very much, in advance, for taking the time to read this and I hope you can take a few minutes to send Loretta a response by the end of the week. Jeanne Keefe TIGS Webmaster and Visual Resources Librarian Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Architecture Library 100 8th Street, Greene 326 Troy,, NY 12180 tel: 518-276-2727 email: keefej@rpi.edu Email From Director, New York State Library Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Library Cultural Education Center - Rm 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 518-473-1189 LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov Hi Jeanne, Happy New Year! I am preparing a presentation to the Regents in early January (8th) about opening the library on Saturdays. As I recall, you were supportive of this idea. I wonder if you would be willing to send a letter to me advocating extended hours for the library, citing difficulties with the current Monday-Friday 9 to 5 schedule and the lack of access to the "wonderful" resources of the New York State Library. Use whatever perspectives you have: librarian, genealogist, local historian, or all of them! I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you know of others who could provide similar supportive letters, would you ask them to send such to me too, or let me know their names? Thanks so much for your help, I think these kinds of testimonials are most effective with the power structure around here. My contact info: Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Research Library Cultural Education Center Room 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 Email (an email attachment is okay): LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov or FAX: 518-486-6880 Thanks a million! Loretta

As a genealogy researcher I am sure you would love to be able to utilize the wonderful research material available at the New York State Library in Albany during the weekend. This would make it so much easier for out of state travelers and especially for those local researchers who work full time. Please read the following two items that deal with an effort to have weekend hours at the library and if you see, fit please write a letter, email or fax as requested below. As a presentation to the Regents on this topic is being made on January 8, time is of the utmost importance. If this proposal for weekend hours interest you, send an email or fax before January 8 to have your voice heard. Thanks, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY Email From Jeanne Keefe - Troy Irish Genealogy Webmaster Hello Everyone: On Friday I received this email from Loretta Ebert, Director, New York State Library and I am asking for your help. Loretta, who was previously my Director of Libraries at RPI, moved on to the NYS Library last summer and before she left Rensselaer I asked her to look into the possibility of keeping the NYS library open for one day over the weekend. Since most of us work 9-5, M-F, we are unable to do any research at our State Library because we can't get there when its open during the week. I also mentioned that many genealogists travel to the Albany-Troy-Schenectady area to do family research and are severely limited by the library's present schedule. Weekend hours, even if only one day, would allow more of us to access the very important resources that are only available at the NYS Library. In September, I met Loretta and she mentioned that she was encountering some resistance to the idea, but felt confident that she would be able to open the library, maybe on Saturdays, at some point late in the Fall. In the following letter you will see that she is asking for some help in convincing the Board of Regents to allow her to open the library on the weekend and has asked for letters (or emails)in support of this move. Please read her letter below and take a few minutes to mail, email or fax a brief letter to Loretta in support of her initiative. I think it is a very important opportunity for genealogists and historians to have their concerns voiced and research needs recognized. This is also a unique opportunity to be involved in a change that has the potential to improve access to these important records and resources, especially for those of us needing to do family research in the New York State Library. For more information about the NYS Research Library's genealogy collections use this link: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gengen.htm.Thank you all very much, in advance, for taking the time to read this and I hope you can take a few minutes to send Loretta a response by the end of the week. Jeanne Keefe TIGS Webmaster and Visual Resources Librarian Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Architecture Library 100 8th Street, Greene 326 Troy,, NY 12180 tel: 518-276-2727 email: keefej@rpi.edu Email From Director, New York State Library Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Library Cultural Education Center - Rm 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 518-473-1189 LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov Hi Jeanne, Happy New Year! I am preparing a presentation to the Regents in early January (8th) about opening the library on Saturdays. As I recall, you were supportive of this idea. I wonder if you would be willing to send a letter to me advocating extended hours for the library, citing difficulties with the current Monday-Friday 9 to 5 schedule and the lack of access to the "wonderful" resources of the New York State Library. Use whatever perspectives you have: librarian, genealogist, local historian, or all of them! I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you know of others who could provide similar supportive letters, would you ask them to send such to me too, or let me know their names? Thanks so much for your help, I think these kinds of testimonials are most effective with the power structure around here. My contact info: Loretta Ebert Director, New York State Research Library Cultural Education Center Room 10D34 Albany, NY 12230 Email (an email attachment is okay): LEBERT@mail.nysed.gov or FAX: 518-486-6880 Thanks a million! Loretta

Hi Dorothy, I believe I have your James Lane and Nettie. James J. Lane born 1854 in New York. He died 1897 in Shokan, Olive, Ulster Co, NY and buried in Lot # 8, in the Evergreen Cemetery. I do not have his Farher and Mother. His wife is Annette Nettie Hamilton the daughter of Charles Hamilton and Elizabeth Jane Lane. Annette was born 1855 in New York and died 1936. She is buried in the Tongore Cemetery in in Olivebridge, Olive, Ulster Co, NY. There children that I have are: Ernest R. Lane born 1880 and died 1881. Buried in Lot # 1195 Oscar J. Lane born 1883 and died 1904. Buried in Lot # 1194 Clara Lane born 3 August 1886 died stillborn or died young. Buried in Lot # ?. Addeline B. Lane born 1889 and died 1900. Buried in Lot # 7 Arthur L. Lane born 1890 and died 1891. Buried in Lot # 9. All the children are buried in the Evergreen Cemetery, in Shokan, Olive, Ulster Co, NY. I do not have your Grandmother Dorothy Orpha Lane in my data base. Could you send to me all the descendants of Dorthy Orpha Lane. I would like to find out if James J. Lane is member of my Lane family. Howard At 11:37 AM 12/22/2006, you wrote: >Do you have a Doroty Orpha Lane born in 1888, daughter of James or >Judd Lane and Nettie . I believe she was born in Olive ridge or >Olivebridge? She was my grandmother. Thank you. > >D.K. Henderson >

The 1875 census is missing the second book same as the 1865. Audrey Klinkenberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannette" <jk1105@earthlink.net> To: <NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: [NY-ULSTER] 1875 NY census >I just had the same problem with the Ulster Co. 1875 NY census I rented > from the FHL (there are two films) and they go as far as the Ms--no > Shawangunk or Wawarsing. I wrote to the UCGS but have not received an > answer as yet. > > Jeannette > > ====NY-Ulster Mailing List==== > Do you have a website which included Ulster County information that you > would like to see advertised in this space? > Contact: NYULSTER-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYULSTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just had the same problem with the Ulster Co. 1875 NY census I rented from the FHL (there are two films) and they go as far as the Ms--no Shawangunk or Wawarsing. I wrote to the UCGS but have not received an answer as yet. Jeannette