This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4RB.2ACE/1456.1563 Message Board Post: My grandfather waas Louis Arthur Havens. My father, his 1st son, also Louis Arthur Havens. Louis Sr, died in 1939, when I was 4 years old. Another of his sons was named Bertrand. I was born in NY, NY. Louis Sr worked for the State of New York but other than that I have very little information, although I do remember my father telling me about his uncle who conducted the Sousa band. I understood that he had changed his last name to Howard. I would love to learn more about my roots.