Haines, I don't have a direct Brown connection that I know of, but I'm suspicious that there may be some tie between Hathaways or Clarks and Browns. In the 1860 NY, Tompkins, Lansing census my Elizabeth Carver (dau of Levi & Candace (Hathaway) Clark) was listed with 2 of her children, John and Dee, in house of John Brown, 50, and Alexander Brown, 45. In 1870 NY, Cattaraugus, Portville census, in Henry Clark (son of Levi & Sarah Clark) and wife Adalle household are listed Francis, 26, and Alma, 22, Brown. Yet another possible Brown connection is in the house of Ashabel E. Hathaway, 1870 NY, Cayuga, Summerhill census, is listed Mary Ann Brown, 54. This Ashabel is probably son of Ebenezer Hathaway, same location in 1860 census. Has you research turned up any of these Browns? Thanks, Bonnie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceABaker Surnames: bates, Baker, Casterline, Mather Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/464.552.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oops, wrote wife of Anna casterline instead of husband. but you know what I mean, right? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BruceABaker Surnames: bates, Baker, Casterline, Mather Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/464.552.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, James Bates was the wife of Anna Casterline, daughter of Ruth Mather and and Benjamain Casterline married in Morristown, NJ ....NOT Stephen Bates. Stephen Bates Born June 12, 1754 in Coventry, Kent Co. Rhode Island, died Oct. 30, 1849 in Erie Co, NY married three women that I can see by the bible pages. First was a Susan (either Baker or Parker depending on how you read the bad writing) Barnes, whose only child was James Bates in 1787. Phebe Nichols is the most recognized wife of Stephen who is a baptist preacher, then Katherine Davis in 1835 when he is 71 is the least. Once you plug in Stephen Bates son of Francis Bates and Mary, Francis second wife being Elizabeth Bissel, you will find all the information you need, except the key link in the Bates Bible which ties it all together. With Stephen as the Father of James Bates many questions are answered. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Please know I very much appreciate you writing down and sending all of this Williams' information you had in your files. At this point I haven't heard of any Hawvers or Comstocks within the lineage however I will keep this and investigate further. Thank you!! Kind regards, Kathleen GA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Lakeshore32 <lakeshore32@odyssey.net> wrote: Here is some WILLIAMS data I have found: "Arthur H Williams married Mary Comstock. They had Loretta, Gerald, *Reuben (md Retha Hawver), Eileen and Irene (twins), Ronnie, Shirley (Corey), Sonny (killed age 18 yrs.), and Martha (lived with mom on Fulton Street until she passed on about 60). Mary Comstock Williams lived to age 100 and 1 mo; passed on few months after Martha. Gerald married Mileen and lived in Groton. She worked for Smith Corona for years. Mrs. Mary Comstock Williams made woven rugs with a loom and aided, sold her rugs to Cornell for dormitories. She also worked for a shoe factory in Ithaca. Arthur H Williams passed away around 1970. He worked most of his life down at the docks and ship yards .... *REUBEN WILLIAMS 16 Dec 0000 Sep 1955 220-26-7397 Maryland. Reuben married Retha June Hawver and had: Ruby, Marcia, and Thomas. Retha J Hawver Williams was the d/o Augustus and Minnie White Hawver ....." ----- Original Message ----- To: nytompki@rootsweb.com Sent: March 23, 2007 Subject: NYTOMPKI Digest, Vol 2, Issue 58 1. Harry H. Williams of Ithaca - Full Name of His Wife? (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

Here is some WILLIAMS data I have found: Arthur H Williams married Mary Comstock. They had Loretta, Gerald, *Reuben (md Retha Hawver), Eileen and Irene (twins), Ronnie, Shirley (Corey), Sonny (killed age 18 yrs.), and Martha (lived with mom on Fulton Street until she passed on about 60). Mary Comstock Williams lived to age 100 and 1 mo; passed on few months after Martha. Gerald married Mileen and lived in Groton. She worked for Smith Corona for years. Mrs. Mary Comstock Williams made woven rugs with a loom and aided, sold her rugs to Cornell for dormitories. She also worked for a shoe factory in Ithaca. Arthur H Williams passed away around 1970. He worked most of his life down at the docks and ship yards. *REUBEN WILLIAMS 16 Dec 0000 Sep 1955 220-26-7397 Maryland. Reuben married Retha June Hawver and had: Ruby, Marcia, and Thomas. Retha J Hawver Williams was the d/o Augustus and Minnie White Hawver. ARTHUR WILLIAMS 18 May 1892 Feb 1969 Ithaca NY Tompkins Co MARY WILLIAMS 21 Mar 1897 27 May 1997 Ithaca NY Tompkins Co === 1920 Utica NY Oneida Co: Arthur H. Williams 28 b 1892, Laura K 29, and Lillian E 7. 1920 Ithaca NY Tompkins Co: Arthur Williams 26 b 1894 NY, Flossie 22, Iva 5, Carl 1. 1920 Ulysses NY PO T-Burg; Tompkins Co: Arthur L. Williams 64 (wid) b 1856 NY parents b England. 1920 Ithaca NY 4th ward Tompkins Co: Gerald C Williams 21, born 1899 NY. 1920 Dryden Road Delaware Ave; US ARMY POST; Tompkins Co NY: Arthur L Williams age 30 born 1890 Maine, a sailor. 1920 Ithaca NY Tompkins Co: Irene Williams 50 b PA 1870 and Adrian age 49 b NY. 1920 Ithaca NY 4th ward Tompkins Co: Abbie E Comstock 58 b 1862 NY parents b VT, single, teacher. 1920 Groton NY Tompkins Co: Mary Williams 19 b 1901 NY. 1920 Ithaca NY 4th ward Tompkins Co: Rubin S Williams b NY CT NY, janitor, and wife, Candace 55 b PA. 1920 Ithaca NY Tompkins Co: Augusta H Williams 67 (s), Charlotte Etta also single. 1920 Dryden NY Tompkins Co: Horace and Mary Williams. 1920 Ithaca NY N Cayuga St Tompkins Co: Frank A. Williams b NY NY MI, Bertha L 36, Lawrence A 13, Raymond W 8. 1920 Ithaca NY E Seneca St Tompkins Co: Frank J Rumsey 68 wid, Grace Williams 34 (divorced). Also, Lem Williams 75 widowed. Also, Ellen D Williams 72 wid 4th ward Ithaca NY, Anna Campion 59, and J. Smith 33. 1920 Elmira NY Ref Schl, Arthur Williams (married) age 20, b 1900 NY. 1920 Elmira NY Chemung Co: Arthur E Williams 37 b 1883 PA and wife Alice 34, Elmer L 11, Violet 9, Don 7, Alice 5, Arthur Jr 2 3/12 b 1918 and Howard Wheeler 2/12 mos. (1910 Ashland NY Chemung Co: James A Williams 72 b NY, Sarah 66, George E 42, Joseph 32.) 1920 Syracuse NY Onondaga Co, 4th ward on Highland Street (north side): Arthur Williams age 15 born 1905 with a sister, Mabel age 9, along with their mother, Mary Vanderlyeake age 40 b NY (parents born Germany) and husband, Peter Vanderlyeake age 37 born Holland AR 1906. Peter, machinist in canning factory; Arthur, office boy in supply house. Also, an Irene Williams of Syracuse widow age 29. Also, an Arthur Williams of Manlius NY, 40 and widowed sister in law Cora McKee 61. 1920 Onondaga NY Onondaga Co: Homer E Williams 57 b 1863 NY, Mary 36, Delphine C or E 11, Artie B (female) 10, and ? Don A. 1920 Cortand NY (Truxton) Cortand Co: Arthur Williams 42 b 1878 NY, Mertie 37, and Doris 9. 1920 Cortand NY 3rd ward: Arthur F Williams 37, b 1883 NY. 1920 Sidney NY Delaware Co: Arthur Williams 49 b 1871 NY and Maggie 47, Margaret 21, Madeline 115 or 18, and Pauline 19. 1920 Franklinville NY Cattaraugus Co: Arthur Williams 33 b 1887 and Martha 30, Ester 8, and Henry 7. 1920 Plainfield NY Otsego Co: Homer Williams 32, b 1888 NY, and Mary, etc. 1920 German Flats NY Herkimer Co: Homer Williams age 65. 1920 Pittsford NY Monroe Co NY: Homer Williams 37, Ruth, Mable, William, Alice, and Howard. 1920 Binghamton NY Broome Co: Arthur Williams 37 b 1883 PA, Cora 8. 1920 Binghamton NY Broome Co: Arthur Williams 39 b NY 1881, Anna 40, Edward 19, and *Arthur 17 born 1903. 1920 Union NY Broome Co: Arthur E Williams 30, Pauline 26, Francis (female infant). (1910 Broome Co: Arthur Williams 24 (divorced) b PA, shoemaker, boards with Carrie Davenport. ) 1930 Geo Jr Republic Tompkins Co: Robert *R Williams 16 b 1914 NY, parents b Wales. ----- Original Message ----- From: nytompki-request@rootsweb.com To: nytompki@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: NYTOMPKI Digest, Vol 2, Issue 58 Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want your digest in MIME, please write me directly, at NYTOMPKI-Admin@rootsweb.com When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. Today's Topics: 1. Harry H. Williams of Ithaca - Full Name of His Wife? (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 2. Re: Harry & Bertha Hoover (KJH) 3. Re: Harry & Bertha Hoover (mlm403) 4. Re: Harry & Bertha Hoover (KJH) 5. Re: Sally R. Dykeman YAPLE? (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 6. Re: Harry & Bertha Hoover (mmillard) 7. Dorothy Lewis Hadley (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:57:17 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYTOMPKI] Harry H. Williams of Ithaca - Full Name of His Wife? To: <NYTOMPKI-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1174557438.518258@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kh440 Surnames: WILLIAMS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5059/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI, I'm seeking information if anyone knows the name of Harry H. Williams' wife? Dates for Harry H. WILLIAMS: Born: May 24, 1883, Ithaca Died: July 3, 1930, Ithaca, age 47 yrs. old Burial: July 5, 1930, East Lawn Cemetery (Old Cemetery, Lot 1 - Section 9). Ithaca. Harry was the father of 2 daughters - Dorothy Williams, born approx. 1915 & Isabelle Williams, dates unknown. The 1930 US Federal Census shows Harry Williams as married, however there is no wife living with him. His daughter Dorothy Williams is living with him. They lived at 214 Linn Street, Ithaca acc. to that census. His father, William W. Wiliams had paid for his burial plot. A volunteer did try to search for his obituary but couldn't find anything. Any leads on the wife's name or information about his daughters would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Kathleen GA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: KJH <kajh76@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover To: nytompki@rootsweb.com, mlm403@juno.com Message-ID: <783029.49816.qm@web60518.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Madeline, You may want to write a message and ask for a volunteer to search for an obituary. Post a message to: Message Boards > Localities > North America > United States > States > Florida > Counties > Broward http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.broward/mb.ashx Here were their birth and death dates: BERTHA HOOVER b. 30 Mar 1892 d. Jan 1975, Hollywood, Broward, FL SSN issued New York & HARRY HOOVER b. 26 Dec 1894 d. Feb 1979. Fort Lauderdale, Broward, FL SSN issued New York I hope you find the information you are looking for. Good luck, Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mmillard <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: "... Harry and my father, Edward Milton Jenkins were first cousins. Harry Ralph Hoover (1894-1979) and his wife Bertha UNKNOWN (1892-1975) and their children Robert ("Bob") and Jane. Harry was born in Watkins Glen, Schuyler County, New York ... Bertha's maiden name is unknown as is her birthplace. She appears to have died (SSDI) in Hollywood, Broward County, Florida ..." > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:30:56 -0700 From: "mlm403" <mlm403@juno.com> Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover To: <nytompki@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000e01c76c7d$f31e27a0$aeb4fea9@uccs.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good morning, Kathleen. Thank you for your message. I had prepared a message to send to several counties' message boards and spent three hours yesterday trying to do exactly as you suggested, but for some reason both SSDI and Rootsweb require a username which I don't have. The confirmation message I received when I registered mentions no username and I have tried everything I can imagine. My nametag won't work either. I can edit old post-its to SSDI, so I know my password is valid, but neither will allow me to post new messages. A site search for the term "username" also comes up empty. So there is no help on the "Password and Username" page. Have e-mailed the Help Desk but received no reply. Any ideas, short of subscribing to each mail list? Thanks. Madeline Jenkins Millard Colorado Springs, CO mlm403@juno.com Researching: HOOVER, POOLE, JENKINS, WILLBRAND, LITZ, FREY ----- Original Message ----- From: KJH To: nytompki@rootsweb.com ; mlm403@juno.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover Hi Madeline, You may want to write a message and ask for a volunteer to search for an obituary. Post a message to: Message Boards > Localities > North America > United States > States > Florida > Counties > Broward http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.broward/mb.ashx Here were their birth and death dates: BERTHA HOOVER b. 30 Mar 1892 d. Jan 1975, Hollywood, Broward, FL SSN issued New York & HARRY HOOVER b. 26 Dec 1894 d. Feb 1979. Fort Lauderdale, Broward, FL SSN issued New York I hope you find the information you are looking for. Good luck, Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mmillard <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: "... Harry and my father, Edward Milton Jenkins were first cousins. Harry Ralph Hoover (1894-1979) and his wife Bertha UNKNOWN (1892-1975) and their children Robert ("Bob") and Jane. Harry was born in Watkins Glen, Schuyler County, New York ... Bertha's maiden name is unknown as is her birthplace. She appears to have died (SSDI) in Hollywood, Broward County, Florida ..." > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: KJH <kajh76@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover To: nytompki@rootsweb.com, mlm403@juno.com Message-ID: <41117.12899.qm@web60515.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Madeline, The changes in the past few months or more have been a bit confusing. I believe you will have to officially register - which was ushered in under the latest changes. Go to: https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/ and look for the box which says ... "Not Registered ? Register today! It's free and only takes a minute". ... and click the button which says "Register". >From there it will be a three-step process to register your email address. It is for free. I think also, it is you who creates your own username - in a manner of however you'd like your name to appear on the Message Board itself. I too can access all of my previous "post-ems" but I notice I have a few under a couple of different email addresses I have used in the past. This new registration process is so that all of your Message Board posts will be under one email address. I wish you success and luck in this process & hope I have not steered you wrong! Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mlm403 <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: > I had prepared a message to send to several > counties' message boards and spent three hours > yesterday trying to do exactly as you suggested, but > for some reason both SSDI and Rootsweb require a > username which I don't have. The confirmation > message I received when I registered mentions no > username and I have tried everything I can imagine. > My nametag won't work either. I can edit old > post-its to SSDI, so I know my password is valid, > but neither will allow me to post new messages. A > site search for the term "username" also comes up > empty. So there is no help on the "Password and > Username" page. Have e-mailed the Help Desk but > received no reply. Any ideas, short of subscribing > to each mail list? > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:49:51 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Sally R. Dykeman YAPLE? To: <NYTOMPKI-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1174582192.461012@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Seashell402000 Surnames: Dykeman, Yaple, Norton, Earl, Burley, Burgess Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5058.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What I have is from a book "The Yaple Family in America" by Doris Yaple Geist and Roland Yaple. Sally Dykeman, 1st wife of Henry Yaple, they had 5 children of which only 3 are listed in the book. The children are: Harriet Yaple b: 10 Aug 1819, married a Mr. Norton of Illinois. (Sarah)Eliza Yaple b: 22 Feb 1823 married Caleb Earl of Ithaca (book said they had no children). Perry (Piersy) Yaple b: 9 March 1825 in Ithaca, married Martha Maria Burley 25 Sept. 1862 in Pacheco, Contra Costa, Calif. I have 3 children listed for Perry and Martha. Henry Yaple, Sally's husband was the 5th child of Jacob Yaple and Maria Dumond. He was born 28 Aug. 1791 and died 21 Aug. 1863. Jacob Yaple was one of the founders of Ithaca, NY and fought in the American Revolution. The book lists Henry as the first white child born at Ithaca, NY. Though some will dispute that. Jacob lost his land in Ithaca to some shady tax or land dealings and then moved his family to Danby, NY. Henry's brother Peter is my Ancestor. Jacob, Peter, Henry and wives are buried in Kings Cemetery, located on Stone Quarry Road in Ithaca, NY. I have seen a picture of Henry and his wives tombstones on line, but for some reason they are not listed on the list I have of people buried in King's Cemetery. Henry's 2nd wife's name is Mary S. Burgess her name and dates are easy to make out on the tombstone. You can read Henry's name, but can't make much else out from the picture and you really can't see anything on the third stone. They are all placed together in cement flat on the ground. If you have further questions on the Yaple family I might be able to help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:42:19 -0700 From: "mmillard" <mlm403@juno.com> Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover To: <kajh76@yahoo.com>, <nytompki@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003a01c76cb1$d4197d80$aeb4fea9@uccs.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Kathleen, I'll try it! I registered and changed my e-mail address last November -- after a break of several years. Has this new policy gone into effect since November? By the way, I did find a cemetery listing for Harry and Bertha on the Broward County Genealogical Society site. They're buried in the Lauderdale Memorial Park Cemetery, Block 10, Circle 3. - Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Madeline ----- Original Message ----- From: KJH To: nytompki@rootsweb.com ; mlm403@juno.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover Hi Madeline, The changes in the past few months or more have been a bit confusing. I believe you will have to officially register - which was ushered in under the latest changes. Go to: https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/ and look for the box which says ... "Not Registered ? Register today! It's free and only takes a minute". ... and click the button which says "Register". From there it will be a three-step process to register your email address. It is for free. I think also, it is you who creates your own username - in a manner of however you'd like your name to appear on the Message Board itself. I too can access all of my previous "post-ems" but I notice I have a few under a couple of different email addresses I have used in the past. This new registration process is so that all of your Message Board posts will be under one email address. I wish you success and luck in this process & hope I have not steered you wrong! Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mlm403 <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: > I had prepared a message to send to several > counties' message boards and spent three hours > yesterday trying to do exactly as you suggested, but > for some reason both SSDI and Rootsweb require a > username which I don't have. The confirmation > message I received when I registered mentions no > username and I have tried everything I can imagine. > My nametag won't work either. I can edit old > post-its to SSDI, so I know my password is valid, > but neither will allow me to post new messages. A > site search for the term "username" also comes up > empty. So there is no help on the "Password and > Username" page. Have e-mailed the Help Desk but > received no reply. Any ideas, short of subscribing > to each mail list? > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:11:54 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYTOMPKI] Dorothy Lewis Hadley To: <NYTOMPKI-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1174590715.734@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JamesHadley18 Surnames: Hadley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5060/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dorothy Lewis Hadley, wife of James Addison Hadley died, according to the web site of Tompkins, Co. NY, Nov. 1976 in Trumansburg She was born Feb. 11, 1911. She is buried in the Chestnut Hill Cemetery, Saugerties, NY along with her husband. Any information on her or her family would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Hadley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the NYTOMPKI list administrator, send an email to NYTOMPKI-admin@rootsweb.com. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JamesHadley18 Surnames: Hadley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5060/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dorothy Lewis Hadley, wife of James Addison Hadley died, according to the web site of Tompkins, Co. NY, Nov. 1976 in Trumansburg She was born Feb. 11, 1911. She is buried in the Chestnut Hill Cemetery, Saugerties, NY along with her husband. Any information on her or her family would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Hadley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Seashell402000 Surnames: Dykeman, Yaple, Norton, Earl, Burley, Burgess Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5058.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What I have is from a book "The Yaple Family in America" by Doris Yaple Geist and Roland Yaple. Sally Dykeman, 1st wife of Henry Yaple, they had 5 children of which only 3 are listed in the book. The children are: Harriet Yaple b: 10 Aug 1819, married a Mr. Norton of Illinois. (Sarah)Eliza Yaple b: 22 Feb 1823 married Caleb Earl of Ithaca (book said they had no children). Perry (Piersy) Yaple b: 9 March 1825 in Ithaca, married Martha Maria Burley 25 Sept. 1862 in Pacheco, Contra Costa, Calif. I have 3 children listed for Perry and Martha. Henry Yaple, Sally's husband was the 5th child of Jacob Yaple and Maria Dumond. He was born 28 Aug. 1791 and died 21 Aug. 1863. Jacob Yaple was one of the founders of Ithaca, NY and fought in the American Revolution. The book lists Henry as the first white child born at Ithaca, NY. Though some will dispute that. Jacob lost his land in Ithaca to some shady tax or land dealings and then moved his family to Danby, NY. Henry's brother Peter is my Ancestor. Jacob, Peter, Henry and wives are buried in Kings Cemetery, located on Stone Quarry Road in Ithaca, NY. I have seen a picture of Henry and his wives tombstones on line, but for some reason they are not listed on the list I have of people buried in King's Cemetery. Henry's 2nd wife's name is Mary S. Burgess her name and dates are easy to make out on the tombstone. You can read Henry's name, but can't make much else out from the picture and you really can't see anything on the third stone. They are all placed together in cement flat on the ground. If you have further questions on the Yaple family I might be able to help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks Kathleen, I'll try it! I registered and changed my e-mail address last November -- after a break of several years. Has this new policy gone into effect since November? By the way, I did find a cemetery listing for Harry and Bertha on the Broward County Genealogical Society site. They're buried in the Lauderdale Memorial Park Cemetery, Block 10, Circle 3. - Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Madeline ----- Original Message ----- From: KJH To: nytompki@rootsweb.com ; mlm403@juno.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover Hi Madeline, The changes in the past few months or more have been a bit confusing. I believe you will have to officially register - which was ushered in under the latest changes. Go to: https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/ and look for the box which says ... "Not Registered ? Register today! It's free and only takes a minute". ... and click the button which says "Register". From there it will be a three-step process to register your email address. It is for free. I think also, it is you who creates your own username - in a manner of however you'd like your name to appear on the Message Board itself. I too can access all of my previous "post-ems" but I notice I have a few under a couple of different email addresses I have used in the past. This new registration process is so that all of your Message Board posts will be under one email address. I wish you success and luck in this process & hope I have not steered you wrong! Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mlm403 <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: > I had prepared a message to send to several > counties' message boards and spent three hours > yesterday trying to do exactly as you suggested, but > for some reason both SSDI and Rootsweb require a > username which I don't have. The confirmation > message I received when I registered mentions no > username and I have tried everything I can imagine. > My nametag won't work either. I can edit old > post-its to SSDI, so I know my password is valid, > but neither will allow me to post new messages. A > site search for the term "username" also comes up > empty. So there is no help on the "Password and > Username" page. Have e-mailed the Help Desk but > received no reply. Any ideas, short of subscribing > to each mail list? > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kh440 Surnames: WILLIAMS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5059/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI, I'm seeking information if anyone knows the name of Harry H. Williams' wife? Dates for Harry H. WILLIAMS: Born: May 24, 1883, Ithaca Died: July 3, 1930, Ithaca, age 47 yrs. old Burial: July 5, 1930, East Lawn Cemetery (Old Cemetery, Lot 1 - Section 9). Ithaca. Harry was the father of 2 daughters - Dorothy Williams, born approx. 1915 & Isabelle Williams, dates unknown. The 1930 US Federal Census shows Harry Williams as married, however there is no wife living with him. His daughter Dorothy Williams is living with him. They lived at 214 Linn Street, Ithaca acc. to that census. His father, William W. Wiliams had paid for his burial plot. A volunteer did try to search for his obituary but couldn't find anything. Any leads on the wife's name or information about his daughters would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Kathleen GA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Madeline, The changes in the past few months or more have been a bit confusing. I believe you will have to officially register - which was ushered in under the latest changes. Go to: https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/ and look for the box which says ... "Not Registered ? Register today! It's free and only takes a minute". ... and click the button which says "Register". >From there it will be a three-step process to register your email address. It is for free. I think also, it is you who creates your own username - in a manner of however you'd like your name to appear on the Message Board itself. I too can access all of my previous "post-ems" but I notice I have a few under a couple of different email addresses I have used in the past. This new registration process is so that all of your Message Board posts will be under one email address. I wish you success and luck in this process & hope I have not steered you wrong! Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mlm403 <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: > I had prepared a message to send to several > counties' message boards and spent three hours > yesterday trying to do exactly as you suggested, but > for some reason both SSDI and Rootsweb require a > username which I don't have. The confirmation > message I received when I registered mentions no > username and I have tried everything I can imagine. > My nametag won't work either. I can edit old > post-its to SSDI, so I know my password is valid, > but neither will allow me to post new messages. A > site search for the term "username" also comes up > empty. So there is no help on the "Password and > Username" page. Have e-mailed the Help Desk but > received no reply. Any ideas, short of subscribing > to each mail list? > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

Good morning, Kathleen. Thank you for your message. I had prepared a message to send to several counties' message boards and spent three hours yesterday trying to do exactly as you suggested, but for some reason both SSDI and Rootsweb require a username which I don't have. The confirmation message I received when I registered mentions no username and I have tried everything I can imagine. My nametag won't work either. I can edit old post-its to SSDI, so I know my password is valid, but neither will allow me to post new messages. A site search for the term "username" also comes up empty. So there is no help on the "Password and Username" page. Have e-mailed the Help Desk but received no reply. Any ideas, short of subscribing to each mail list? Thanks. Madeline Jenkins Millard Colorado Springs, CO mlm403@juno.com Researching: HOOVER, POOLE, JENKINS, WILLBRAND, LITZ, FREY ----- Original Message ----- From: KJH To: nytompki@rootsweb.com ; mlm403@juno.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] Harry & Bertha Hoover Hi Madeline, You may want to write a message and ask for a volunteer to search for an obituary. Post a message to: Message Boards > Localities > North America > United States > States > Florida > Counties > Broward http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.broward/mb.ashx Here were their birth and death dates: BERTHA HOOVER b. 30 Mar 1892 d. Jan 1975, Hollywood, Broward, FL SSN issued New York & HARRY HOOVER b. 26 Dec 1894 d. Feb 1979. Fort Lauderdale, Broward, FL SSN issued New York I hope you find the information you are looking for. Good luck, Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mmillard <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: "... Harry and my father, Edward Milton Jenkins were first cousins. Harry Ralph Hoover (1894-1979) and his wife Bertha UNKNOWN (1892-1975) and their children Robert ("Bob") and Jane. Harry was born in Watkins Glen, Schuyler County, New York ... Bertha's maiden name is unknown as is her birthplace. She appears to have died (SSDI) in Hollywood, Broward County, Florida ..." > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

Hi Madeline, You may want to write a message and ask for a volunteer to search for an obituary. Post a message to: Message Boards > Localities > North America > United States > States > Florida > Counties > Broward http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.broward/mb.ashx Here were their birth and death dates: BERTHA HOOVER b. 30 Mar 1892 d. Jan 1975, Hollywood, Broward, FL SSN issued New York & HARRY HOOVER b. 26 Dec 1894 d. Feb 1979. Fort Lauderdale, Broward, FL SSN issued New York I hope you find the information you are looking for. Good luck, Kathleen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- mmillard <mlm403@juno.com> wrote: "... Harry and my father, Edward Milton Jenkins were first cousins. Harry Ralph Hoover (1894-1979) and his wife Bertha UNKNOWN (1892-1975) and their children Robert ("Bob") and Jane. Harry was born in Watkins Glen, Schuyler County, New York ... Bertha's maiden name is unknown as is her birthplace. She appears to have died (SSDI) in Hollywood, Broward County, Florida ..." > Madeline Jenkins Millard ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

I am looking for additional information on the following people and especially would like to contact their children, if living, or other descendents. Harry and my father, Edward Milton Jenkins were first cousins. Harry Ralph Hoover (1894-1979) and his wife Bertha UNKNOWN (1892-1975) and their children Robert ("Bob") and Jane. I do have information on Harry's ancestors, but have no information as to if and who the children married or where they settled. Harry was born in Watkins Glen, Schuyler County, New York and appears (SSDI) to have died in Fort Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida. Bertha's maiden name is unknown as is her birthplace. She appears to have died (SSDI) in Hollywood, Broward County, Florida. I would love to know her maiden name and origins. The 1920 and 1930 Fed. Census show the family living in Ithaca, Tompkins County, New York. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Madeline Jenkins Millard Colorado Springs, CO mlm403@juno.com Researching: HOOVER, POOLE, JENKINS, WILLBRAND, LITZ, FREY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cole444em Surnames: Yaple, Dykeman, Terry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5058/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! Looking for any information on Sally Dykeman who married Henry YAPLE. I know she was from Putnam County and is somehow related to my ancestor Azubah Dykeman who also came to TOMPKINS COUNTY with her husband Willett Terry. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Emily Cole Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Judy, Thank you for your very helpful reply. I was finally able to resolve the problem of years when I realized that the 1825 and 1835 census was a state census, and the 1820, 30, 40 census was a federal census. I gather NY held those censuses because of its interest in the agricultural economy. Since I don't really know the location of my Brown, and there are so many around in the early 19th century Tompkins Co., I rely on the census. I've got some records to track down from the federal census, but the state census is more challenging. In 1991 the Tompkins County Genealogical Society published The New York State Census for Tomplins County (available in the Tompkins Co. library and I supposed elsewhere), but this book is described as an "abstract". I'm not sure if it is an alphabetized index, a non-alphabetized list of heads of household without agricultural information, or a copy of the entire record. I will do as you suggest and pursue the Revolutionary War research tutorial available from Rootsweb.com's home page, and about.com. There was one Brown who received Bounty Land in the town of Lansing, but I don't know if there's any relation to my own Brown. What I've read on the Military Tracts suggest there were a lot of land transfers and simple land speculation. There's no reason to assume my Brown, even if it turns out he owned a Military Tract, was descended from a Revolutionary War fighter. My Benjamin may indeed have been classified as a hired hand within someone else's family even if we were married and the father of children. However, I have reason to suspect he worked on the steam ferry boat transiting Lake Cayuga. In 1838 he moved to Camden apparently only because his occupation at the time (1840) was "engineer" and in the 1830s a steam ferry service was established between Camden and Philadelphia. Thank you again for all your help and encouragement. Haines Brown

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cole444em Surnames: TAYLOR Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5057/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! I am looking for any information on my ancestor Joseph Terry and his wife Sarah Terry. They came to Tompkins County around 1869 from Cambrideshire, England. I am basically looking for any cemetery records for either of them I checked both Tompkins and Schuyler Counties. From the time they arrived in the US until the 1880 census they seem to be residing in Ulysses, Tompkins County. By the 1900 census Joseph Taylor is a boarder in Hector, Schuyler and in the 1910 census Joseph is seen living with his son Joseph Taylor Jr. in Hector, Schuyler County. I can't find any cemetery record for where he and his wife could be buried....HELP! Also I am looking for any descendants of their children: Joseph Taylor Jr., Fanny Taylor, Samuel Taylor, Sarah Taylor, Charlotte Taylor, Alice Taylor, and Lizzie Taylor. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!! Emily Cole Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Haines, If you went to the 1825 State Census listing whose location I gave you, you will have found that no Benjamin Brown was listed in Hector Town. The 1825 and 1835 enumerations were State Census, whereas of course the 1820, 1830 were US Decennial Census enumerations. New York is just one of the States that did its own enumerations for specific purposes. The USGenWeb site for New York State, County Selection page, gives you the geopolitical history of each County. Tompkins was formed in 1817 from parts of Cayuga and Seneca. While there were itnerlopers at times, this part of NY had practically no settlers until after the Treaty of Ft. Stanwix, 1794. Read up on the history of the Military Townships to get more insight as to how the Towns were set up. Hector and Ulysses have somewhat complicated histories related to the Military Townships. Try the Revolutionary War research tutorial available from Rootsweb.com's home page, and about.com for some leads. Not finding people in the Decennial or State Census lists does not mean they were not there. Both of the above up to 1850 only list head of household. If your Benjamin was a hand working for someone and living with them, he would probably not be listed as head of household. The 1830s were a turbulent time. A bad depression and the bank collapse 'panic of 1837' were related reasons that people were on the move, looking for livelihood. Some of our more frustrating-to-research ancestors may have lived only a year or two (or less) in a given place in this period. Good hunting, Judy

> Great. I have a few photocopied pages of the 1825 and 1835 census. Tell me > exactly who you are looking for on the off chance that I may have copied the > page you might need. Marsha Marsha, Your offer is very kind. The person I'm looking for is a Benjamin W. Brown, born c. 1806 and who moved from what was probably Tompkins County in 1838. I'm not sure where he lived in Tompkins County, which is why I'm starting with the census. The only hint so far is that it was in Perry City (Hector), and that his children ended up in Watkins Glen, which subsequently were in Schuyler Co. I can't find any Benjamin Browns in Tompkins Co. until 1830. In 1830 there is a Benjamin Brown from Newfield and from Ithaca, and in 1840 there are Benjamin Browns from Dryden and Newfield. This probably makes three Benjamins, of which so far I have checked one (Ithaca), and he is not the Benjamin I'm looking for. I'll do the Dryden and Newfield Benjamins in the next few days. Let me raise a question if I may. I looked at the NY Census index for 1820, 1830 and 1840 and on that basis took a look at an actual record for the Ithaca Benjamin via Heritage Quest. I'm trying to reconcile the years. Officially there was a federal census in 1810, 1820, 1830, and 1840, but at the Tompkins County level, it seems to have startd with 1825 and 1835. How are these different datings to be reconciled? If these are the same as the 1820, 1830 or 1840 federal census, then I seem to already have a way to access the full census, but otherwise I've not been accessing the right records. Haines Brown

Great. I have a few photocopied pages of the 1825 and 1835 census. Tell me exactly who you are looking for on the off chance that I may have copied the page you might need. Marsha -----Original Message----- From: nytompki-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nytompki-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Haines Brown Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:47 AM To: nytompki@rootsweb.com Cc: nytompki@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] 1830 (1825?) census for Tompkins County Marsha, I wish to thank you and Judy for your help. I am contacting the Tompkins County Clerk's office regarding a search of the census, and it would appear off hand that they are willing to do it (they have a fee schedule for such work). Haines Brown ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYTOMPKI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well don't rush out and order digital scans from the National Archives! I did and am VERY disappointed in what I received. I know the problem but as of yet have not pinned down what exactly went wrong and what the correction is. I had old paper prints of what I ordered and for the most part they were evenly exposed across the whole paper print. However the digital scans are sufering from anywhere from proper exposure to over-exposure in the center to dark to VERY dark at the edges and corners. So dark that detail is totally lost. I had the scans done by King Visual Technologies. I talked to them and they said that the problem is with the original negative. I still have not determined if the ORIGINAL truely is the original or when the original was migrated (copied ) to another film or even to another sized film. The digital scans do have more detail thatn the old paper prints but they also have a lot more scratches. My understanding is that when you ask King Visuals for a paper print they have a mask that gives them an evenly exposed print, corner to corner. They can not make a mask when they scan so thy play in Photoshop curves and levels to correct the overall scan, This results in the loss of even more detail in the highlighted center section. To properly scan one should actually do two or three scans and combine the best out of each. Optimize once for the highlights and once for the shadows. Or make a radial gradatioal mask and apply it to the digital scan. So if you oder BEWARE! and only order one to see what kind of quality you get. Even that might not assure you of uniformity because each roll of film might be different and the coverage area may have been photographed on different days.