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    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] Isaac Casterline Bates grandson of Stephen Bates, Pownal, Vermont
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brucabaker Surnames: Casterline, Bates, Mather, Baker, Cornish, Zobrist Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/633.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We have to be careful about the children and grandchildren who are named for their father or grandfather because I see so many miscues with grandchildren being named for their grandfather as the father of certain lineages, particularly Benj Casterline who had a son Benj Casterline. Maybe that is why the inclusion of birth and death dates with marriages are important when separating different people with the same name. I was just going over some posts where James Bates the son of James Bates and Anna Casterline is mistaken for his father, let alone how Benj Casterline son of Benj Casterline and Ruth Mather is mistaken for his father just gets under my skin, ya know what I mean? Well, it is funny how Francis Bates son of Francis Bates continues to compound the problem of this lineage, doesn't it? I guess I am just a little maudlin today cause there are so many other things going on in my life, like some bozo who thinks he is the cream of society judging me by my ragged working clothes calling me a clown and a buffoon, but what kind of person would take advantage of an invalid old woman and his daughter on disability? I don't get some people in this world. Maybe we learn from the mistakes of our ancestors, and maybe if we ignore our ancestoral history we don't learn from our mistakes? I for one would like to know more so I can read into my own life's experiences some knowledge by learning from the successes and failures of my own ancestors, wouldn't you? I guess what I am saying is that we need more comparisons of recent behaviors of our common modern families with whatever we can piece together from the records of our ancestoral families if we are ever to learn how to be better than we are. Any idiot can have children, but what is the quality of life if you don't learn from your mistakes? From the patchwork of ancestors that seem to connect to this disjointed family of Casterline, Mather, Bates, Baker, and other names too numerous to mention, we finally have some connection to the past, at least the last five hundred years or so. I still don't understand the disjointed separations of ancestors from Connecticutt to Vermont to New York where they split up and go many different ways, but I am starting to see a pattern very similar to some of my modern relatives who go many different directions in today's world. In some ways, I have been drawn to many of ancestoral settlements of these ancestors over the last forty years and I had no clue why I felt I should be in a town, or state, but after finding so many ancestors in these places I guess it was like a psychic following a feeling I should be there for one reason of another. Have any of you had that psychic feeling when you are somewhere and then find later you had ancestors there you never knew existed at the time you were somewhere? Just checking. I have this theory that some of us are related to Native Americans who went to Europe 30,000 years ago, but it is just a theory as many of us have modern native American ancestors in the last three hundred years. It is possible that there are some psychics among us, and we don't even know it. Yeah, it is weird, isn't it? How many more of you with relations to Bates/ Casterline know of Native American connections in the last three hundred years but haven't posted them in the ancestoral trees? Let me know would ya? Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/15/2007 07:04:21
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] VAN ORDER FAMILIES
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanmeanie Surnames: Van Order, Clark, Wellin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/159.1331/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I descend from this group through Peter Van Order and would love to exchange information. Related surnames, Wellin and Clark in the Trumansburg, New York area Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/15/2007 01:34:11
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] Van Order
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Peacham74 Surnames: VanOrder Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/159.1328.1351.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Leigh---- I just saw your posting of 5 Oct.2001 -- I lived in Newfoundland NJ for 43 years and have some family who married into the VanOrder family in the 1800`s , also some that were witness to greatgrand fathers wills etc ........ I would like a copy of Nancy`s correspondence , etc........ My fax number is 830 438 6819 Thank you - Leslie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/15/2007 11:43:44
    1. [NYTOMPKI] The Weekly Ithacan 8/19/1881 Cayuga Lake Article
    2. Bill Hecht
    3. Banner from front page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20709small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20709.jpg The Beauty of Cayuga Lake http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20710small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20710.jpg

    07/15/2007 09:54:32
    1. [NYTOMPKI] Buttermilk Creek and Pulpit Falls stereo view
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wshecht1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5102/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you find the man in the image ? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705crop.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/14/2007 07:10:50
    1. [NYTOMPKI] Fall Creek
    2. Bill Hecht
    3. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20708small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20708.jpg

    07/14/2007 10:42:31
    1. [NYTOMPKI] Pulpit Falls -what creek ?
    2. Bill Hecht
    3. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705crop.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705.jpg

    07/14/2007 09:12:33
    1. [NYTOMPKI] Taughannock Gorge stereo view
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wshecht1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5101/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures205/20594small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures205/20594.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2007 02:40:52
    1. [NYTOMPKI] Taughannock Gorge stereo view
    2. Bill Hecht
    3. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures205/20594small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures205/20594.jpg

    07/10/2007 09:37:53
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] McGraws early 1800s
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolbmoss01 Surnames: McGraw Nelson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/1228.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe there are only 6 children and one of them is adopted. These are my direct 3rd great grand parents and this is what my extensive research shows. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/08/2007 05:00:07
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] Find William McGraw & ancestors
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolbmoss01 Surnames: McGraw Cooey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/1123.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would like to know more about this ancestor, William McGraw. I have two ancestors, Joseph and Thomas McGraw, who came from Ireland and first settled in New Britain, Orange, NY, in 1802. My understanding is Dryden was established in 1811 or so. My Joseph was one of the first families to settle there. Could we have a connection from the old Irish country? Mine were from Newry, Armagh, Ireland. Their mother's maiden name is reportedly Cooey. Thank you for any information you can add. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/08/2007 04:51:54
    1. [NYTOMPKI] BABCOCK, Willet & Belinda
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PlanoCJ Surnames: BABCOCK Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5100/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am no kin to the Babcock surname but wanted to post this info since there has been none about this couple that I could find on this board. In Paris, Lamar, TX there is a Evergreen Cemetery that has a "famous" grave marker. We viewed it over the 4th of July and since he was born in this county I thought I would post it. You can view the marker at findagrave . com . The marker is very large and is of a cross with Jesus holding onto it and it looks like he has cowboy boots on if you look closely at the bottom of the robe. VERY unusual marker from that date and time from the ones I have seen. Willet BABCOCK born 6 OCT 1828 in Ithaca, Tompkins Co., NY died 27 AUG 1881 in Paris, Lamar, TX His marker is located on the front and his wife's marker is on the back of the statue marker. All info mentioned is on the marker. Belinda BABCOCK born 14 FEB 1824 in Hamilton Co., OH died 25 MAY 1909 in Paris, Lamar Co., TX Hope this helps some researchers. CJ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/05/2007 11:02:02
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] FREESE
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dede_Stafford Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/376.1061.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for information on the parentage of my Great-Great Grandfather, Daniel Freese. Born about 1820 in Tompkins County (?), NY. Married Caroline Masters (I believe she was a 2nd wife.) I decend from their son, George Henry. (1863-1929) Would love to correspond with you...please e-mail me directly at scarlett77@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/04/2007 04:49:13
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] newkirk search
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dede_Stafford Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/373.1224/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think that we might be searching for the same branch. My Great-Grandmother was Etta Mercy Baker, who married George Henry Freese. Her sister, Mary, married a Newkirk, from what I was told by my Great-Aunt, Hazel Freese Cooman. I would love to correspond with you...please e-mail me directly at scarlett77@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/04/2007 04:42:59
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] Earle/Earl Family - Tompkins County -> SW Michigan
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raymcadams Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/2985.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I started working on the Earl/Earle family yesterday but have gathered quite a lot of info on them. I have a lot of early Van Buren Co.,MI records. It looks like Palmer Reed and William Earl married sisters. William's wife was Elizabeth Thistle. Both women were apparently born in New York City. I checked NYC 1830 census and found only one Thistle. He was Samuel E. Thistle. Palmer & Maria's first child was Samuel E. Earl. Elijah Earl was with Elizabeth in Keeler, Van Buren Co.,MI in the 1850 census. Where was William? Ray McAdams rglmca@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/29/2007 08:36:02
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] VAN ORDER FAMILIES
    2. John A. Van Order
    3. Have info. on a Walter VO & wife Pina Davenport who had a son Nathaniel, b. 05 May 1827, but they were in Catlin, Chemung County, NY Also see e-mail below. Best, John A. Van Order, Cornelius Posted by julie langstrom <shadow8@ameritec.net> on Mon, 12 Jul 1999 Surname: VanOrder, vanWormer looking for information on Nathaniel VanOrder. Lived in LaPorte Co., IN at least 1840-1850. Found mention of him in a journal of John Sutherland 1840. Found Nathaniel on 1850 census for LaPorte Co., Willis (?Wills) twp. with wife Emily (VanWormer), and son Americus. Found Emily in Stueben Co., IN remarrying to Charles D.P. Olmsted 1863. What happened to Nathaniel? Who were his parents? Did Nathaniel and Emily have any other children other than Americus and Charles?Emily VanWormer VanOrder Olmsted b. abt 1824 pl of b. ? Ohio d. ? pl of d. ? spouse - 1st - Nathaniel VanOrder 5/4/1846 - LaPorte Co., IN 2nd - Charles D.P. Olmsted 3/15/1863 - Branch Co. MI (from Steuben Co., Fremont Twp.) parents of spouses - ? children - 1st marriage - Americus V. VanOrder, b. in LaPorte Co., IN Charles N. VanOrder, b. in Williams Co., OH father - ? mother - ? siblings - ? other relatives - ? Occupation - ? other information - Emily VanOrder was from Fremont Twp., Steuben Co., at the time of her 2nd marriage. Submitted By: Julie Langstrom E-mail: shadow8@ameritech.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NYTOMPKI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [NYTOMPKI] VAN ORDER FAMILIES > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jschutzesr > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/159.1330/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I am looking for information on Walter, Nathaniel, and Martha Van Order, > I have them in LaPorte Co. in 1840. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYTOMPKI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/28/2007 08:36:47
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] VAN ORDER FAMILIES
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jschutzesr Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/159.1330/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Walter, Nathaniel, and Martha Van Order, I have them in LaPorte Co. in 1840. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/28/2007 06:51:28
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] Will of Peter H. Smith
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nandruss1 Surnames: Middaugh, Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/2130.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ken, I was wondering if you might share any photos of Richard Middaugh and Angeline Smith. You can reach me at nandruss@peoplepc.com. Thank you SO much for your time! Nickhol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/26/2007 11:45:55
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] 1828 Article on Jonathan Brooks
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RHughes4452 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5099.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lynn: Thanks for the info. I was told that the article pertained to James Brooks; however, I guess it was Jonathan Brooks. Ron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/26/2007 10:00:25
    1. Re: [NYTOMPKI] 1828 Article on Jonathan Brooks
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lynnfisher3149 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.tompkins/5099.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ron: I also e-mailed this to you. Here it is for others who may be interested. July 7, 1828 The Watch-Tower, Cooperstown, N.Y. Murder and Robbery Summary of article: Capt. Jonathan Brooks of Washingtonville, Orange County [NY?] was found dead apparently from a beating June 24 near Mount Pleasant, Penn. He was traveling west to buy cattle in a wagon pulled by one horse. He picked up a young man, whose name was believed to be Whiting, on the road about seven miles from Belmont. The two stopped at a tavern and then continued on. Twenty minutes later, Whiting returned to the same tavern with the horse and wagon, which he said he bought from Brooks. Whiting then went to another tavern two miles away, and he had a gold watch that he said Brooks had loaned him so that he could keep track of the time tomeet back up with Brooks. This caused suspicion, and he was chased and eventually arrested. In addition to the watch, he had $25 in cash. Whiting was believed to have deserted from West Point the previous week. I am providing the above summary because I obtained a copy of the actual article from a copyrighted source. - Lynn Stevenson Fisher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/26/2007 09:51:29