This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Chambers, Crawford, Oliver, Welch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3RB.2ACE/429.2.1 Message Board Post: Dolores, Thanks for your help. You've done so much. George; I believe was born in NY, Tioga Cnty area. He married Irene Crawford in Michigan in 1855. Then, they moved back to NY, had Charles ( possibly other children which I don't know about ) then were back in Michigan in 1892 when Charles married Melisse, ( name on marriage certificate ) Melissa or Melisa Oliver - daughter of Henry and Johanna Melisa or Melisa Johanna (Welch) Oliver. I just found this out when I went and got Charles & Melisas' marriage certificate. I have also found where George and Irene were married and may have to send for their marriage certificate and hope it has more info on it. Many thanks, Deb