This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/707.2 Message Board Post: Teri, I found this family on the 1930 census: Village of Ridgewood, Bergen County NJ #446 Alpine Terrace: Leroy V. Altz, age 28, married at 19, born NY, both parents NY Mary D. wife, age 28, married at 19, born NY, father Irish Free State, mother NY Leroy V. Jr. son, age 7, born NY Jean M. daughter, age 3 years, 9 months [census visit was April 8, 1930], born NY Martin J. Downs, father-in-law, age 57, married at 26, born Irish Free State, both parents Irish Free State Mary C. Downs, mother-in-law, age 55, married at 24, born NY, both parents, Irish Free State Leroy was a stockbroker. Martin J. immigrated in 1886 and was a naturalized citizen. Going back to the 1920 census, we find Martin Downs in Brooklyn, NY living at #1610 10th Avenue: Martin J. Downs, age 47, born Ireland, both parents Ireland Mary C, wife, age 45, born NY, both parents Ireland Esther C. daughter, age 20, born NY Mary E. daughter, age 19, born NY William M. son, age 17, born NY Martin was a City Detective. Also in 1920 in Brooklyn, living at #507 Park Place: Amos Altz, age 41, born NY, father U.S. mother Germany Jane, wife, age 39, born Ny, both parents NY Leroy, son, age 19, born NY Mildred, daughter, age 17, born NY I'm goind to post this much now and look in the 1880 for Amos' parents and will let you know if I find them. Hope this helps fill in some blanks. Bill St. George