This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1081.1 Message Board Post: On 10/4/05 (7:18:05 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Tod Benedict (tbenedic@johnmilnerassociates.com) asked, "Does anyone know of the existence of one or more directories that include names and addresses of Sag Harbor or Southampton/East Hampton residents anytime during the late 1880s-early 1890s?" For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the John Jermain Memorial Library: John Jermain Memorial Library Box 569 Main Street Sag Harbor, NY 11963 Tel: 631/725-0049 Fax: 631/725-0597 eMail: krosalia@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://sagharbor.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Sag Harbor is a village (incorporated in 1846) partly in the northeast part of the Town of Southampton and partly in the northwest part of the Town of East Hampton, in the southeast part of Suffolk County. There are currently 6 villages (municipal corporations) and 17 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Southampton and 2 villages and 7 hamlets all or partly in the Town of East Hampton. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of Sag Harbor is bordered on the north by the Village of North Haven (Town of Southampton); on the east by the Gardiner's Bay and the Hamlet of Northwest Harbor (Town of East Hampton); on the south by the Hamlets of Wainscott (Town of East Hampton) and Bridgehampton (Town of Southampton); and, on the west by the Hamlet of Noyack (Town of Southampton) and the Little Peconic Bay. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Village of Sag Harbor has a different border than does the "Sag Harbor, NY 11963" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Sag Harbor mailing address and not be in Sag Harbor). Those places that have a "Sag Harbor, NY" mailing address that are not in the Village of Sag Harbor are in the Village of North Haven and the Hamlet of Noyack and the Hamlet of Northwest Harbor. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the 1 LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Sag Harbor (incorporated in 1846) in the Towns of Southampton and East Hampton, Suffolk County on pages 15, 28 & 32 (map) and 29 & 33 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5766, Walter Greenspan * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, Rosh ha Shannah begins at sunset on Monday, October 3 on the civil calendar. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.