This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1088.1 Message Board Post: On 10/14/05 (7:25:13 PM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Mary Zatorski (mzatorsk@suffolk.lib.ny.us) asked, "Looking for LIVING family of Harold Leslie. Last residence, Sayville, NY, buried at Calverton National Cemetery. Looking for information for his sister, Caroline, married to George Weiss, my great-uncle. George is brother to my grandfather, Charles Weiss, both born Brooklyn, NY." If my memory is not playing a trick on me, I seem to recall that a Harold (it could've been a John) Leslie and a George Weiss were very senior executives at the brokerage/investment banking firm of Bache & Co. in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Bache and Co. is now part of Prudential Securities. Additionally, for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Sayville Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have obit information that could indicate where the sister Caroline was living at the time when Harold passed away): Sayville Library 11 Collins Avenue Sayville, NY 11782 Tel: 631/589-4440 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: sayvlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://sayville.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Sayville is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the southeast part of the Town of Islip, in the south-central part of Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (municipal corporations) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Sayville in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by the Hamlets of Bohemia and Holbrook; on the east by the Hamlet of Bayport; on the south by the Great South Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlets of West Sayville, Oakdale and Bohemia. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Sayville has a different border than does the "Sayville, NY 11782" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Sayville mailing address and not be in Sayville). Those places that have a "Sayville, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Sayville are in the Hamlet of West Sayville. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Sayville in the Town of Islip on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.