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    1. HAND, John 2nd & Alice GRANDSDEN
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HAND/GRANSDEN/BARNES/STRATTON/WHITEHAIR/STUBBS/TALMADGE etc. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1094 Message Board Post: John and Alice had: i John b. 1635 KENT england ii Alice b. 1636 LYNN MA iii Mary married Charles BARNES 1655 EastHampton L.I. iv Stephen d.4-15-1693 married Sarah Stratton/Strutton 1660 EastHampton v Joseph b.1638 d.1-1734 Guilford CT married ca 1664 to Jane WRIGHT vi Benjamin b.1742 d.after 1709 in CAPE MAY NJ married Elizabeth WHITEHAIR 1660 EastHampton L.I. vii Shamgar b.1642 d.4-1728 CAPE MAY NJ married viii Thomas b.1648 SouthHampton d. CM, NJ married Mary Talmadge 1687 EastHampton L.I. ix James b.1651 EastHampton d. 3-12-1733 married. Family moved from MA to SouthHampton, Long Island 1644 and on to EastHampton 1649. Can anyone fill in my blanks? GINNY 2 at vmartinez5946@aol.com

    10/24/2005 04:19:10
    1. Re: William Fithian
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: FITHIAN/CROMWELL/HAND Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/0.168 Message Board Post: You find Fithian and cromwell in the lines of the HAND family. Prudence HAND married a ______ CROWELL(CROMWELL) She was the daughter of Thomas Hand & Katherine STUBBS. _______ HAND married a ______ FITHIAN.

    10/24/2005 04:03:45
    1. Re: cemetery look up
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wicks, Wickes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1093.1.1 Message Board Post: Thankyou so much for the info on St Charles Cemetery very informative. I will contact them today and verify the burial site. Again, Thanks Deb

    10/24/2005 03:23:32
    1. for Ray Smith: Having trouble sending you eMails
    2. Ray, I'm using NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com because all my eMails sent to rtsmithmd@earthlink.net are bouncing. See after my name. Walter Subj: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: 10/23/05 8:50:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time From: Mailer-Daemon@fall-lakeland.atl.sa.earthlink.net (Mail Delivery System) To: Soyamaven@aol.com This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: rtsmithmd@earthlink.net-outlookexpress Unrouteable address

    10/23/2005 04:57:58
    1. John Hand
    2. Ray T Smith, MD
    3. LI Rooters, I seem to have some inaccurate information on John Hand mid 1600's and his family. Can some kind person give me data on John and wife, parents, and children. Thank you very much. Ray T Smith, MD

    10/23/2005 04:50:08
    1. Info on Roman Catholic Cemeteries on LI
    2. While answeting a query posted on li-rooters@GenExchange.org, I collected the following informauiton about which cemeteries are owned by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn and which are owned by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Rockville Centre, which I am now now posting here: For the 10 cemeteries owned by the Brooklyn Diocese: http://www.dioceseofbrooklyn.org/ministries/cemeteries/about.html For the 3 cemeteries owned by the Rockville Centre Diocese: http://www.drvc.org/cemeteries.html I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

    10/23/2005 04:36:46
    1. cemetery look up
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1093.1 Message Board Post: On 10/22/05 (7:45:05 PM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Deborah Kuebel (scrtwpn@cablespeed.com) asked, "I am trying to find out where St Charles Cemetery is.. According to the death notice (Melvin Warfield Wickes) he is buried there with his wife. I think it maybe in Farmingdale NY." Similar to several other cemteries that have a "Farmingdale, NY" mailing address, St. Charles is actualy situated in the Hamlet of East Farminfdale in the Town of Babylon, County and not in the Village of Farmingdale in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County. The following information on St. Charles Cemetery was obtained from <http://www.genexchange.org/cemlist.cfm?state=ny&county=suffolk> St. Charles (RC) Cemetery Conklin Street East Farmingdale (Farmingdale P.O.), NY 11735 Tel: 631/249-8700 Fax: 631/249-4714 Other Information: In operation since 1935 and is owned by the Roman Catholic Brooklyn Diocese. Visiting is from 8am to 5pm daily. Office hours 9am to 5pm weekdays. And 9am to 1pm Saturdays. Records are housed on-site and are searchable by office personnel only. NO appointment necessary. It is important to note that East Farmingdale is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where none of the places in the community have the name of the hamlet as part of their mailing address. The pertinent geography: East Farmingdale is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Babylon, in the southwest part of Suffolk County (along the Babylon/Huntington/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line). There are 3 villages (municipal corporations) and 12 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Babylon. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of East Farmingdale in the Town of Babylon is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Melville in the Town of Huntington (the Babylon/Huntington Town line); on the east by the Hamlets of Wyandanch and West Babylon; on the south by the Hamlets of North Lindenhurst and North Amityville and, on the west by the Village of Farmingdale, Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County (the Babylon/Oyster Bay Town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the hamlet and the postal zone that use the same name, have much different borders: In this case there is no "East Farmingdale, NY" postal zone and places in the Hamlet of East Farmingdale have other than an "East Farmingdale, NY" mailing address (these places have a "Farmingdale, NY 11735" mailing address). In addition to the Farmingdale addresses in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, about 3 of every 4 Farmingdale addresses in Nassau County are also not in the Village of Farmingdale: these paces with a Farmingdale address that are not in the Village of Farmingdale are in the Hamlet of South Farmingdale and in the Hamlet of Plainedge. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of East Farmingdale in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 18 (map) and 19 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    10/22/2005 02:34:30
    1. cemetery look up
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wickes, Wicks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1093 Message Board Post: I am trying to find out where St Charles Cemetery is.. According to the death notice (Melvin Warfield Wickes) he is buried there with his wife. I think it maybe in Farmingdale NY. Thanks for the help!

    10/22/2005 01:44:47
    1. Harriet Elisabeth Davis
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1092.1 Message Board Post: On 10/21/05 (8:38:22 PM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Daniel Fischer (dfischer@optonline.net) asked, "Seeking ancestry of Harriet Elisabeth Davis, born in Stony Brook ca 1805-1810. Was married to Daniel Shaw Dimon of Jamesport,LI and moved there. Possible given names for Davis relations could be James,Goldsmith, Milton and Henry." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Riverhead Free Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Riverhead Free Library 330 Court Street Riverhead, NY 11901 Tel: 631/727-3228 Fax: 631/727-4762 eMail: rflref@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://river.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Jamesport is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the east part of the Town of Riverhead, in the northeast part of Suffolk County, along the Riverhead/Southold town line. There are no villages (municipal corporations) and 7 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Riverhead (Riverhead is the only town in either Suffolk or Nassau County without any villages within its borders). There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Jamesport in the Town of Riverhead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet Northville; on the east by the Hamlet of Laurel in the Town of Southold (the Riverhead/Southold town line); on the south by the Great Peconic Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Aquebogue. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Jamesport has a different border than does the "Jamesport, NY 11947" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Jamesport mailing address and not be in Jamesport and a place can have other than a Jamesport mailing address and be in Jamesport). Those places that have a "Jamesport, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Jamesport are in the Hamlet of Aquebogue; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Jamesport with a "Laurel, NY 11948" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Jamesport in the Town of Riverhead, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 26 (map) and 27 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    10/22/2005 01:07:58
    1. Harriet Elisabeth Davis
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Davis Dimon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1092 Message Board Post: Seeking ancestry of Harriet Elisabeth Davis, born in Stony Brook ca 1805-1810. Was married to Daniel Shaw Dimon of Jamesport,LI and moved there. Possible given names for Davis relations could be James,Goldsmith, Milton and Henry.

    10/21/2005 02:10:47
    1. Paper Trails Cert
    2. Paper Trails Certificates I wanted to bring to your attention that when you submit the information for a cert. whether it be Death, Birth or Marriage, you can scan me the actual cert. and I will make it available on the site in conjunction with the info you submit. See the following: http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/PaperTrails/Death/b.html When u scroll down to BROWN, Rachel, under NOTES: it has: Image of Cert: Click here When u click on that a scan of the actual cert will appear. So to make it even easier you can now, scan the certs to me and I will add it to the info. PLEASE, if you are submitting certs for the first time, you MUST type me the info first!! Remember, these are certs that are not yours!! For a DEATH: SURNAME, Name Cert# Date of Death age gender County of Death Occ Marital status Place of Birth (May include the date) Place of Death Residence (Please include County if NOT the same as Death) Burial if known Father :SURNAME, Name & Nativity (Dates can be included) Mother : (Maiden) SURNAME, Name & Nativity Cause of death Source of material & or Notes you would like to include. Notes For BIRTH: SURNAME, Name Cert# Date of Birth Gender County of Birth Place of Birth Residence (If different then Birth) Father :SURNAME, Name Nativity (Dates can be included) Age Mother : (Maiden), Name Nativity Age Source MARRIAGE: for a groom Groom: SURNAME, Name Age # of Marriage Place of Birth (may include date if known) Occupation Residence Father :SURNAME, Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Mother : (Maiden), Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Bride SURNAME, Name Age # of Marriage Place of Birth (may include date if known) Residence Father :SURNAME, Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Mother : (Maiden), Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Cert# Date of Marriage Borough (County) Place Witness Source / Notes For BRIDE: Bride SURNAME, Name Age # of Marriage Place of Birth (may include date if known) Residence Father :SURNAME, Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Mother : (Maiden), Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Groom: SURNAME, Name Age # of Marriage Place of Birth (may include date if known) Occupation Residence Father :SURNAME, Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Mother : (Maiden), Name / Nativity (Dates can be included) Cert# Date of Marriage Borough (County) Place Witness Source / Notes Nancy

    10/21/2005 02:24:39
    1. jerry wolf of long island
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: wolf Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1091 Message Board Post: I am searching for information on my relative, Jerry Wolf, born circa 1950 in Clifton, NJ. He currently resides in Long Island. His father is Vincent Wolf b. circa 1925 in Paterson, NJ. He has a sister, Patricia who curently lives in TN.Thank you.

    10/21/2005 01:49:26
    1. john s. wallace
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1090.1 Message Board Post: On 10/20/05 (9:51:03 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Larry Thomas (larrycthomas@worldnet.att.net) asked, "Looking for obituary for John S. Wallace. Born 12/18/42. Died in January 1985. lived in Mastic, Suffolk County, New York." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Mastics-Moriches-Shirley Community Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Mastics-Moriches-Shirley Community Library 407 William Floyd Parkway Shirley, NY 11967 Tel: 631/399-1511 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: http://www.communitylibrary.org/about/contact.php http://www.communitylibrary.org/ The pertinent geography: Mastic is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the southeast section of the Town of Brookhaven, in the south-central part of Suffolk County. There are 8 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Mastic in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Manorville; on the east by the Hamlet of Moriches; on the south by the Hamlet of Mastic Beach; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Shirley. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Mastic has a different border than does the "Mastic Beach, NY 11950" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Mastic mailing address and not be in Mastic and a place can have other than a Mastic mailing address and be in Mastic). Those places that have a "Mastic, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Mastic are in the Hamlet of Shirley, the Hamlet of Manorville and the Hamlet of Moriches; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Mastic with a "Mastic Beach, NY 11951" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Mastic in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    10/20/2005 05:41:09
    1. john s. wallace
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1090 Message Board Post: Looking for obituary for John S. Wallace. Born 12/18/42. Died in January 1985. lived in Mastic, Suffolk County, New York.

    10/20/2005 03:47:52
    1. Fort H. G. Wright, NY
    2. In my previous postings about Fishers Island, I incorrectly stated that that Fishers Island was in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Hartford. Fishers Island is in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Norwich. I want to thank Ned Smith (ehlsmith@att.net) for alerting me about this, and informing me that Fishers Island was in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Norwich, not Hartford, as I had been previously posting. I had used "Hartford" based on information in a NEWSDAY article without independently checking if this information was correct. Regards, Walter Greenspan

    10/19/2005 08:34:30
    1. Re: Need email address
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1089.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. Wanda

    10/18/2005 04:05:46
    1. Re: Need email address
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1089.1 Message Board Post: There's no funeral home by that name in Huntington, but there is one at that address. It's M. A. Connell Funeral Home, 934 New York Ave., Huntington Station, NY 11746. Phone # 631-427-1123. Their ads in the phone book and in the local paper (the Long Islander) do not give an e-mail address. Hope this helps. Bill Chamberlain

    10/18/2005 02:07:39
    1. Need email address
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hopkins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1089 Message Board Post: Is there anyone on the board who would know the email address for Huntington Funeral Home, 934 New York Avenue, Huntington Station, NY?

    10/18/2005 07:48:43
    1. Victor Maje(w)ski b1876 Poland & Helen: New Suffolk
    2. On 10/15/05 (4:05:37 PM MDT), as part of a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Bob Foran (cordy11@comcast.net) asked, "Would be grateful for any info on the family of Victor Maje(w)ski born abt 1876 in Poland and married to Helen born abt 1884." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Cutchogue - New Suffolk Free Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Cutchogue - New Suffolk Free Library 27550 Main Road P.O. Box 935 Cutchogue, NY 11935-0935 Tel: 631/734-6360 Fax: 631/734-7010 eMail: cutclib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://www.cutchoguelibrary.org/ The pertinent geography: New Suffolk is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the western part of the Town of Southold, in the northeast part of Suffolk County. There are 1 village (municipal corporation) and 10 hamlets in the Town of Southold. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of New Suffolk in the Town of Southold is bordered on the north and east by the Hamlet of Cutchogue; on the south by the Peconic Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Cutchogue. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of New Suffolk has a different border than does the "New Suffolk, NY 11956" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a New Suffolk mailing address and not be in New Suffolk). Those places that have a "New Suffolk, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of New Suffolk are in the Hamlet of Cutchogue. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of New Suffolk in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 30 (map) and 31 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    10/17/2005 11:01:04
    1. Re: [NYSUF] Fort H. G. Wright, NY
    2. Russell Brown
    3. Thanks to Walter and David for all the information on Fisher's Island, its postal system and its church affiliation. In regard to the specific question, the writer and owner of the Ft. H.G. Wright photo might also want to consider donating it to the US Army Military History Institute (USAMHI) at Carlisle, PA. USAMHI is the Army's major repository of historical documents, photographs and manuscripts and an important center for army researchers. Another possibility is the New York State Military Museum in Saratoga (see below). Fort H[oratio] G. Wright was one of the installations of the defenses of New York harbor dating from the days before airplanes when the major threat to coastal cities was naval bombardment. The fort was an active post from 1879-1948 and was named for a Civil War general. You can read a lot more about it at the website of the New York State Military Museum (http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/forts/fortsT_Z/wrightHGFort.htm). Russell --- Soyamaven@aol.com wrote: > > On 10/14/05 (8:18:22 PM MDT), in a posting to > NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com, > Ruth Barton (mrgjb@sover.net) asked, > > "Hi Folks, I just subbed to this list for the > express purpose of asking if > anyone has any info on this former military base > that I was told was on Long > Island. If you know anything about this place > please contact me." > > Then, on 10/15/05 (8:33:25 AM MDT), Ruth Barton > (mrgjb@sover.net) added, > > "The reason I am inquiring is thus: I am president > of the Putney, Vermont > Historical Society, we have had to move our entire > collection and in the process > we are weeding out things that we find that have no > known connection to the > town. One of the things we have found is a long > photo of soldiers with the > only ID being Fort H. G. Wright NY written on the > bottom. They appear to be WWI > from the uniforms. If there is any sort of museum > that collects things from > Fort H. G. Wright we would like to give them this > photo. Anyone have any ideas?" > > > You may want to contact the Fishers Island Library > Association: > > Fishers Island Library Association > 988 Oriental Avenue > PO Box 366 > Fishers Island, CT 06390 > > Tel: 631/788-7362 > Fax: 631/???-???? > > eMail: ????? > > http://???.???.??? > > > Fishers Island is a very interesting and > geographically unique place: > > Fishers Island is an island hamlet (unincorporated > area) in the extreme > northeast section of the Town of Southold, Suffolk > County, and is closer to > Connecticut than to the rest of Long Island. There > are 1 village (municipal > corporation) and 10 hamlets in the Town of Southold. > There are no cities and 10 towns > in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations > in Suffolk County. (I'm > including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary > with the NYS definitions of > county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal > zone.) > > Fishers Island is located in Long Island Sound and > is to the northeast of > Plum Island and the Hamlet of Orient, also in the > Town of Southold, and is just 5 > miles offshore from New London, CT. > > Fishers Island is unique in many ways, one of which > is that while it > certainly is part of New York State, it has a > Connecticut ZIP Code. > > If you or I want to write to a person or company > located on Fishers Island, > the last line of the mailing address -- it's postal > "city" -- is Fishers > Island, CT 06390. > > Mail to and from Fishers Island is handled within a > facility in the New > London, CT Post Office. The manager of the New > London-Fishers Island ferry lives in > New London and on his way to work on Fishers Island > picks up the mail bag > with the incoming mail at the New London Post Office > and in the evening, when he > returns to New London, drops off a bag of outgoing > mail. > > Ownership of Fishers Island was claimed by both > Connecticut and New York. > State ownership was not settled until 1878 when a > joint commission from the two > states finally decided that "New York has the title > having had actual > possession for more than a century". The decision > was based on a prior 1664 decision > that the southern boundary of Connecticut was the > northern shore of Long Island > Sound. (I translate this to mean that the southern > border of Connecticut is > the low water mark.) > > The Town Board of the Town of Southold and > representatives of each department > in the Town journey by boat every August to Fishers > Island to conduct a board > meeting. This is done as a courtesy and is not > required by law. > > Fishers Island has two additional geographic quirks: > > 1. It is the only part of Suffolk County not in the > R.C. Diocese of Rockville > Centre. Fishers Island is in the R.C. Diocese of > Hartford. (Meanwhile, the > R.C. Diocese of Rockville Centre is the only R.C. > Diocese not named after a > city; Rockville Centre is a village in the Town of > Hempstead, Nassau County.) > Fishers Island is in the Episcopal Diocese of Long > Island (so is Brooklyn and > Queens, along with all of Nassau and Suffolk) > > 2. Between Fishers Island and Orient (Orient, as its > name suggests, is the > eastern most point on the north fork) is Plum > Island. Plum Island is the > U.S.D.A.'s animal disease experimental station. > > For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier > edition of the LI > Population Survey or have already downloaded the > report from the Long Island Power > Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need > instructions on how to access > and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of > Fishers Island in the > Town of Southold, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 30 > (map) and 31 (population > estimate). > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, > interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > > Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones > in New York State > > New York State is divided into counties. > > County > A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision > of the state, created to > perform state functions; a "regional" government. > All counties are divided > into cities, towns and Indian reservations. > > City > A city is a unique governmental entity with its own > special charter. Cities > are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, > which are informal geographic > areas. > > Town > A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses > all territory within the > state except that within cities or Indian > reservations. Towns can be > sub-divided into villages and hamlets. > > Village > A village is a general purpose municipal corporation > formed voluntarily by > the residents of an area in one or more towns to > provide themselves with > municipal services. The pattern of village > organization is similar to those of a > city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, > which are informal geographic > areas. > > Hamlet > A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more > towns that is governed > at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is > divided into neighborhoods, which > are informal geographic areas. > > Postal Zone "City" and "Town" > A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative > district established by > the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal > zone === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/

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