This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1103.1 Message Board Post: Roland, Not sure what qualifies with "upstate New York" but: From the diary of Cynthia Hutchinson Norton from Middle Island, Suffolk Co., NY: "April 3 [1810] --Vendue of Joel Swezey attended. They are going to move to the new country. " "Vendue" means "auction". The next time I find Joel, he is in Cayuga Co NY, so I assume that is the "new country" referred to in the diary. One guess is that as fathers died, their sons (usually) ended up with smaller plots of land to farm. After Joel died in Steuben Co NY in 1844, his land was divided among his five sons. Two of his sons moved west in the mid-1850s to the later "new country" in Iowa. Diane

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1102 Message Board Post: Trying to help my brother locate his 1/2 siblings....they may not know of his existence......The siblings would be Fred,Robert,Richard,Christopher & Tina Araujo......please contact me........Thank You

Hello Stuart, Thanks for taking the time to reply with additional information. Thanks also for your past help as well, I have been working for about 3-4 yrs on this Mills family line, and I am stuck at Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY. I feel if you and others familiar with the Mills names will stick with me a bit, we might uncover the connection, and I can give everyone data on this Mills line, because I have the Fulton Co IL Mills family well documented. First of all, am I CORRECT IN ASSUMING, that all the MILLS names in Smithtown, NY prior to 1800 are related? Or were there multiple Mills lines, unrelated? In your email below, you said "in conclusion that Gideon Mills was born in 1788". Did you think that I had thought my Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY was your Gideon Mills b. 1788NY? I do not think that, I can see they are 2 separate men, of different ages. Do you agree? My ancestor has census records from 1840, 1850, 1860, 1870 which maintain he was born about 1797 in New York. His exact death date is confirmed to be November 4, 1870 in Fulton Co IL. He was living in Illionis from 1840 to 1870, I am not sure when he left New York. Do you feel that he consistantly under reported his age as born 1797, when he was born 1788? I suppose this could happen. Anything can happen, and usually does. I suppose the quickest way to find out if these are the same men, is to FIND the death date and location for Gideon Mills b. 1788 NY. Did this man die in Illinois in 1870? If so, then we gotta match. I feel that my Gideon Mills who left New York for Illinois, was a full 10 years younger than the Gideon Mills b. 1788 of Smithtown, Sufflok Co NY. But I feel from the use of the name Gideon, and the location of New York as his birth place, and the fact that the Smithtown Mills families used names such as Gideon, Franklin and Alonzo, which my Mills family in Fulton Co IL used as well, could indicate that the 2 families are related, from the same ancestry. Additionally, I am told that a Timothy Mills b. about 1746 of Smithtown, NY also did go to Illinois, and did die there very early, in 1818. This tells me that the Smithtown Mills family line had a connection to Illinois, and so this again points to a possible connection to my family there. I am hoping if I give out enough information on the Mills family of Fulton Co, that a researcher familiar with the Mills family of Smithtown might see the connection, or point to a possible place for me to search on. I appreciate you and everyone who has given me ideas before. I am hoping I will get a bit more help, so that I can connect to the correct Mills family in New York. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Hotchkiss" <stuh@verizon.net> To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: [NYSUF] Re: The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > Perhaps I can get you back just a bit more, Lilly. Gideon MILLS and his > wife, Mary ACKERLY are my 1C4R. My connection is through Mary's parents, > John and Deborah (SMITH) ACKERLY. Deborah, b. 1786, was one of 12 ch. b. > to my GGGG Grandfather, Simeon and Hannah (SMITH) SMITH. Gideon appears > in the 1820 Smithtown, Suffolk county, NY census, at which time he and his > wife were between 25 and 44 years old. This would place his birth year > not later than 1795. However in the 1830 census for Suffolk county, NY. > Gideon is not listed, suggesting he left the area prior to that date. (I > did not find him in the 1830 Franklin county, IL census.) In the 1830 > Smithtown census other MILLS who are listed include Epenetus, Jonas, > Zopher, Apollas and John. Epenetus appears to be a brother of Gideon. > > There is a MILLS genealogy at > <http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/mills/surnames.htm> and another at > <http://geocities.com/millsancestry/m202.htm>. Assuming for the moment > that Gideon was descended from George, I clicked on the link > <http://www.geocities.com/millsancestry/9/index.htm>. I then clicked on > "Name Index", scrolled down to "Mills" and clicked on Gideon Smith MILLS, > b. 1788 (entry #279), son of Jonas MILLS. I then checked the entry for > Jonas (1753-1811) indicating that Jonas should show in the 1790 census. > > I did find Jonas listed in the both the 1790 and 1800 census'. The > absence of another Gideon in any of these census' leads me to believe that > there was only one Gideon. So in that case, the question is what year was > he born? If he had been born in 1797, and was a son of Jonas, in the 1800 > census Jonas would have shown a male under 10, but there are no males > under 10 shown. This is consistent with his age bracket (25-44) and > possible birth year (not later than 1795) from the 1820 census record. > > My conclusion, based principally on deduction, is that Gideon was born in > 1788, or possibly 1789, and that the 1799 date is in error. That being the > case, the MILLS genealogies I cite above indicate his ancestors and line > of descent as Gideon^6, Jonas^5, Jonas^4, Timothy^3, Jonathan^2, George^1. > > I hope this is helpful. Incidentally, I have a record that we > communicated in 2004 about this same subject, but now I have more > resources available. > > Regards, > Stu > > At 9:37 AM +0200 11/16/05, Lilly Martin wrote: >>Thanks to Eileen, I now have the 1840 location of my ancestor Gideon Mills >>b. 1797 NY. >> >>In the 1850 census shown here below, Gideon Mills is listed with his >>SECOND >>wife, who was Emeline Bishop. She was first marrried to a mr. MARSTEN and >>the children with her names Sarah, James, and Lois were from her first >>marriage. Her husband died, and she remarried to Gideon Mills. I feel >>that >>Gideon's first wife died also, but I do not know where, or when, but >>probably prior to the 1840 census, since I feel that the 1840 census >>listing >>is for Emeline Bishop Mills, his second wife. >> >>The life of Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL, where he died in 1870, is fairly >>well detailed by me, but what I LACK is any information about WHAT Mills >>family he belongs to In New York. >> >>I know the there was a very big and historic MILLS family in SMITHTOWN and >>in MILL POND , New York. I am asking for help with those 2 specific MILLS >>family lines, to see if any other researcher might see a way to fit me >>into >>either of those 2 well researched family lines. They seem to be the 2 >>obvious choices. Can anyone help me? >> >>For example: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mill Pond, Suffolk Co NY. Does >>this man relate to my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY? Or pure >>coincidence? >> >>I am also needing help to find Gideon Mills in the 1830 census, he should >>be >>31 years old, and married, and with a few kids. My ancestor was William >>Mills b. about 1827-1833,based on various census records. >> >>I have made a list of every man named MILLS who was from NY who settled in >>Fulton Co IL at an early date, along with Gideon Mills, be glad to share >>that with any Mills researchers. >>Best regards, >>Lilly Martin >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> >>To: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>; <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:29 AM >>Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY >> >>>Hello Lilly, >>>Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; >>>1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) >>>Gideon Mills Household; >>>1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) >>>1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) >>>2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) >>>1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) >>>1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) >>> >>>1850 Ill Fulton County Utica >>>83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY >>> Emeline f. 38 CT >>> David M. " m.11 ILL >>> Nellson G. " m.6 ILL >>> Hester H. " f.4 ILL >>> Sarah " f. 2 ILL >>> Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name >>> could >>>be Wartren?) >>> James " m.20 Canada >>> Lois " f.16 Canada >>> Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT >>> 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> >>>To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM >>>Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY >>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 >>>>he >>>>was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. >>>> >>>>I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his >>>>way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. >>>> >>>>I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline >>>>Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second >>>>marriage. >>>> >>>>I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 >>>>approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton >>>>Co >>>>IL. >>>>This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who >>>>was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) >>>>William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, >>>>but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, >>>>and his father was a FARMER. >>>> >>>>Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. >>>>I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS >>>>family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon >>>>Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? >>>> >>>>My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where >>>>she >>>>died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names >>>>of: >>>>GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. >>>>Best regards, >>>>Lilly Martin >> >>______________________________ > > > ==== NYSUFFOL Mailing List ==== > Any problems, contact: > unclefred@att.net > To download a free genealogy program, goto: > www.familysearch.org select the free download link.. > The same site has the 1880 census online > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello again, Lilly - I think Ned Smith's reply is on target - there is nothing I can add. I guess I wasn't too clear about stating there was only one Gideon. What I meant was there was only one Smithtown Gideon with a birth date in the 1788 - 1797 time frame, hence your Gideon was apparently not from the Smithtown clan. Gideon was a fairly common name at that time - I have a few in my family from CT. I think your search must be expanded to other parts of NY which is a major project. He is not in the Brookhaven 1830 census, but there are lots of others to choose from. I wish I could be more help, but I cannot think of anything that hasn't been covered. Regards, Stu At 1:25 PM +0200 11/18/05, Lilly Martin wrote: >Hello Stuart, >Thanks for taking the time to reply with additional information. Thanks >also for your past help as well, I have been working for about 3-4 yrs on >this Mills family line, and I am stuck at Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY. I >feel if you and others familiar with the Mills names will stick with >me a bit, we might uncover the connection, and I can give everyone >data on this Mills line, because I have the Fulton Co IL Mills >family well documented. > >First of all, am I CORRECT IN ASSUMING, that all the MILLS names in >Smithtown, NY prior to 1800 are related? Or were there multiple Mills lines, >unrelated? > >In your email below, you said "in conclusion that Gideon Mills was born in >1788". Did you think that I had thought my Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY was your >Gideon Mills b. 1788NY? I do not think that, I can see they are 2 separate >men, of different ages. Do you agree? > >My ancestor has census records from 1840, 1850, >1860, 1870 which maintain he was born about 1797 in New York. His exact >death date is confirmed to be November 4, 1870 in Fulton Co IL. He was >living in Illionis from 1840 to 1870, I am not sure when he left New York. >Do you feel that he consistantly under reported his age as born 1797, when >he was born 1788? I suppose this could happen. Anything can happen, and >usually does. > >I suppose the quickest way to find out if these are the same men, is to FIND >the death date and location for Gideon Mills b. 1788 NY. Did this man die >in Illinois in 1870? If so, then we gotta match. > >I feel that my Gideon Mills who left New York for Illinois, was a full 10 >years younger than the Gideon Mills b. 1788 of Smithtown, Sufflok Co NY. > >But I feel from the use of the name Gideon, and the location of New York as >his birth place, and the fact that the Smithtown Mills families used names >such as Gideon, Franklin and Alonzo, which my Mills family in Fulton Co IL >used as well, could indicate that the 2 families are related, from the same >ancestry. Additionally, I am told that a Timothy Mills b. about 1746 of >Smithtown, NY also did go to Illinois, and did die there very early, in >1818. This tells me that the Smithtown Mills family line had a connection to >Illinois, and so this again points to a possible connection to my family >there. > >I am hoping if I give out enough information on the Mills family of Fulton >Co, that a researcher familiar with the Mills family of Smithtown might see >the connection, or point to a possible place for me to search on. > >I appreciate you and everyone who has given me ideas before. I am hoping I >will get a bit more help, so that I can connect to the correct Mills family >in New York. >Best regards, >Lilly Martin >----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Hotchkiss" <stuh@verizon.net> >To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:27 PM >Subject: [NYSUF] Re: The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > >>Perhaps I can get you back just a bit more, Lilly. Gideon MILLS and his >>wife, Mary ACKERLY are my 1C4R. My connection is through Mary's parents, >>John and Deborah (SMITH) ACKERLY. Deborah, b. 1786, was one of 12 ch. b. >>to my GGGG Grandfather, Simeon and Hannah (SMITH) SMITH. Gideon appears >>in the 1820 Smithtown, Suffolk county, NY census, at which time he and his >>wife were between 25 and 44 years old. This would place his birth year >>not later than 1795. However in the 1830 census for Suffolk county, NY. >>Gideon is not listed, suggesting he left the area prior to that date. (I >>did not find him in the 1830 Franklin county, IL census.) In the 1830 >>Smithtown census other MILLS who are listed include Epenetus, Jonas, >>Zopher, Apollas and John. Epenetus appears to be a brother of Gideon. >> >>There is a MILLS genealogy at >><http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/mills/surnames.htm> and another at >><http://geocities.com/millsancestry/m202.htm>. Assuming for the moment >>that Gideon was descended from George, I clicked on the link >><http://www.geocities.com/millsancestry/9/index.htm>. I then clicked on >>"Name Index", scrolled down to "Mills" and clicked on Gideon Smith MILLS, >>b. 1788 (entry #279), son of Jonas MILLS. I then checked the entry for >>Jonas (1753-1811) indicating that Jonas should show in the 1790 census. >> >>I did find Jonas listed in the both the 1790 and 1800 census'. The >>absence of another Gideon in any of these census' leads me to believe that >>there was only one Gideon. So in that case, the question is what year was >>he born? If he had been born in 1797, and was a son of Jonas, in the 1800 >>census Jonas would have shown a male under 10, but there are no males >>under 10 shown. This is consistent with his age bracket (25-44) and >>possible birth year (not later than 1795) from the 1820 census record. >> >>My conclusion, based principally on deduction, is that Gideon was born in >>1788, or possibly 1789, and that the 1799 date is in error. That being the >>case, the MILLS genealogies I cite above indicate his ancestors and line >>of descent as Gideon^6, Jonas^5, Jonas^4, Timothy^3, Jonathan^2, George^1. >> >>I hope this is helpful. Incidentally, I have a record that we >>communicated in 2004 about this same subject, but now I have more >>resources available. >> >>Regards, >>Stu >> >>At 9:37 AM +0200 11/16/05, Lilly Martin wrote: >>>Thanks to Eileen, I now have the 1840 location of my ancestor Gideon Mills >>>b. 1797 NY. >>> >>>In the 1850 census shown here below, Gideon Mills is listed with his >>>SECOND >>>wife, who was Emeline Bishop. She was first marrried to a mr. MARSTEN and >>>the children with her names Sarah, James, and Lois were from her first >>>marriage. Her husband died, and she remarried to Gideon Mills. I feel >>>that >>>Gideon's first wife died also, but I do not know where, or when, but >>>probably prior to the 1840 census, since I feel that the 1840 census >>>listing >>>is for Emeline Bishop Mills, his second wife. >>> >>>The life of Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL, where he died in 1870, is fairly >>>well detailed by me, but what I LACK is any information about WHAT Mills >>>family he belongs to In New York. >>> >>>I know the there was a very big and historic MILLS family in SMITHTOWN and >>>in MILL POND , New York. I am asking for help with those 2 specific MILLS >>>family lines, to see if any other researcher might see a way to fit me >>>into >>>either of those 2 well researched family lines. They seem to be the 2 >>>obvious choices. Can anyone help me? >>> >>>For example: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mill Pond, Suffolk Co NY. Does >>>this man relate to my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY? Or pure >>>coincidence? >>> >>>I am also needing help to find Gideon Mills in the 1830 census, he should >>>be >>>31 years old, and married, and with a few kids. My ancestor was William >>>Mills b. about 1827-1833,based on various census records. >>> >>>I have made a list of every man named MILLS who was from NY who settled in >>>Fulton Co IL at an early date, along with Gideon Mills, be glad to share >>>that with any Mills researchers. >>>Best regards, >>>Lilly Martin >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> >>>To: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>; <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:29 AM >>>Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY >>> >>>>Hello Lilly, >>>>Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; >>>>1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) >>>>Gideon Mills Household; >>>>1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) >>>>1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) >>>>2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) >>>>1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) >>>>1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) >>>> >>>>1850 Ill Fulton County Utica >>>>83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY >>>> Emeline f. 38 CT >>>> David M. " m.11 ILL >>>> Nellson G. " m.6 ILL >>>> Hester H. " f.4 ILL >>>> Sarah " f. 2 ILL >>>> Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name >>>>could >>>>be Wartren?) >>>> James " m.20 Canada >>>> Lois " f.16 Canada >>>> Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT >>>> 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> >>>>To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM >>>>Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY >>>> >>>>>Hello, >>>>> >>>>>My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 >>>>>he >>>>>was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. >>>>> >>>>>I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his >>>>>way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. >>>>> >>>>>I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline >>>>>Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second >>>>>marriage. >>>>> >>>>>I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 >>>>>approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton >>>>>Co >>>>>IL. >>>>>This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who >>>>>was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) >>>>>William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, >>>>>but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, >>>>>and his father was a FARMER. >>>>> >>>>>Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. >>>>>I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS >>>>>family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon >>>>>Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? >>>>> >>>>>My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where >>>>>she >>>>>died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names >>>>>of: >>>>>GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. >>>>>Best regards, >>>>>Lilly Martin >>> >>>______________________________ >> >> >>==== NYSUFFOL Mailing List ==== >>Any problems, contact: >>unclefred@att.net >>To download a free genealogy program, goto: >>www.familysearch.org select the free download link.. >>The same site has the 1880 census online >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Perhaps I can get you back just a bit more, Lilly. Gideon MILLS and his wife, Mary ACKERLY are my 1C4R. My connection is through Mary's parents, John and Deborah (SMITH) ACKERLY. Deborah, b. 1786, was one of 12 ch. b. to my GGGG Grandfather, Simeon and Hannah (SMITH) SMITH. Gideon appears in the 1820 Smithtown, Suffolk county, NY census, at which time he and his wife were between 25 and 44 years old. This would place his birth year not later than 1795. However in the 1830 census for Suffolk county, NY. Gideon is not listed, suggesting he left the area prior to that date. (I did not find him in the 1830 Franklin county, IL census.) In the 1830 Smithtown census other MILLS who are listed include Epenetus, Jonas, Zopher, Apollas and John. Epenetus appears to be a brother of Gideon. There is a MILLS genealogy at <http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/mills/surnames.htm> and another at <http://geocities.com/millsancestry/m202.htm>. Assuming for the moment that Gideon was descended from George, I clicked on the link <http://www.geocities.com/millsancestry/9/index.htm>. I then clicked on "Name Index", scrolled down to "Mills" and clicked on Gideon Smith MILLS, b. 1788 (entry #279), son of Jonas MILLS. I then checked the entry for Jonas (1753-1811) indicating that Jonas should show in the 1790 census. I did find Jonas listed in the both the 1790 and 1800 census'. The absence of another Gideon in any of these census' leads me to believe that there was only one Gideon. So in that case, the question is what year was he born? If he had been born in 1797, and was a son of Jonas, in the 1800 census Jonas would have shown a male under 10, but there are no males under 10 shown. This is consistent with his age bracket (25-44) and possible birth year (not later than 1795) from the 1820 census record. My conclusion, based principally on deduction, is that Gideon was born in 1788, or possibly 1789, and that the 1799 date is in error. That being the case, the MILLS genealogies I cite above indicate his ancestors and line of descent as Gideon^6, Jonas^5, Jonas^4, Timothy^3, Jonathan^2, George^1. I hope this is helpful. Incidentally, I have a record that we communicated in 2004 about this same subject, but now I have more resources available. Regards, Stu At 9:37 AM +0200 11/16/05, Lilly Martin wrote: >Thanks to Eileen, I now have the 1840 location of my ancestor Gideon Mills >b. 1797 NY. > >In the 1850 census shown here below, Gideon Mills is listed with his SECOND >wife, who was Emeline Bishop. She was first marrried to a mr. MARSTEN and >the children with her names Sarah, James, and Lois were from her first >marriage. Her husband died, and she remarried to Gideon Mills. I feel that >Gideon's first wife died also, but I do not know where, or when, but >probably prior to the 1840 census, since I feel that the 1840 census listing >is for Emeline Bishop Mills, his second wife. > >The life of Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL, where he died in 1870, is fairly >well detailed by me, but what I LACK is any information about WHAT Mills >family he belongs to In New York. > >I know the there was a very big and historic MILLS family in SMITHTOWN and >in MILL POND , New York. I am asking for help with those 2 specific MILLS >family lines, to see if any other researcher might see a way to fit me into >either of those 2 well researched family lines. They seem to be the 2 >obvious choices. Can anyone help me? > >For example: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mill Pond, Suffolk Co NY. >Does this man relate to my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY? Or >pure coincidence? > >I am also needing help to find Gideon Mills in the 1830 census, he should be >31 years old, and married, and with a few kids. My ancestor was William >Mills b. about 1827-1833,based on various census records. > >I have made a list of every man named MILLS who was from NY who >settled in Fulton Co IL at an early date, along with Gideon Mills, >be glad to share that with any Mills researchers. >Best regards, >Lilly Martin >----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> >To: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>; <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:29 AM >Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > >>Hello Lilly, >>Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; >>1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) >>Gideon Mills Household; >>1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) >>1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) >>2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) >>1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) >>1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) >> >>1850 Ill Fulton County Utica >>83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY >> Emeline f. 38 CT >> David M. " m.11 ILL >> Nellson G. " m.6 ILL >> Hester H. " f.4 ILL >> Sarah " f. 2 ILL >> Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name could >>be Wartren?) >> James " m.20 Canada >> Lois " f.16 Canada >> Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT >> 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> >>To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM >>Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 he >>>was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. >>> >>>I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his >>>way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. >>> >>>I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline >>>Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second >>>marriage. >>> >>>I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 >>>approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton Co >>>IL. >>>This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who >>>was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) >>>William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, >>>but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, >>>and his father was a FARMER. >>> >>>Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. >>>I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS >>>family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon >>>Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? >>> >>>My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where she >>>died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names of: >>>GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. >>>Best regards, >>>Lilly Martin > >______________________________

Now more names and dates and locations are coming in, therefor I will give more info to see if anyone can make some connections and further identify the MIlls family I am looking for. #1. Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY, I believe in 1840 he is in Franklin Co IL, his first wife is unknown. His son from his first wife is William H. Mills b. 1827. William stated on the 1860 census he was born in IL, but that is the only census I have ever been able to find for him, therefor I have no other census statement to compare with. Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY was in Fulton Co IL in the 1850, 1860, 1870 census. He died there in 1870, left a second wife, and children, and grandchildren there. #2. In the 1860 census, at Fulton Co IL, I have listed all MILLS households, there are 5. I believe that 4 are related, and 1 is not. Abraham MILLS b. 1822 IN, listed at Deerfield, Fulton Co IL. His wife is Mahala Blount, kids are: Edgar, Ernest, Laura, Mary, George. According to Joyce Hagerty, this Mills family is NOT related to mine. Alonzo MILLS b. 1810 NY, listed in 1860 census at Coppers Creek, Fulton Co IL, His wife is Sarah, kids are: David, Isaac, Marcus, Ellmore, Franklin Mills. **NOTE: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mills Pond, Suffolk Co., NY had a son named ALONZO. **NOTE: the 1830 census at Smithtown, Suffolk Co NY had a FRANKLIN MILLS listed. From the names used, Alonzo, and Franklin, it would appear there may be a connection between this family in Illinois in 1860 and going back to Suffolk Co NY. Can anyone see the connection? Concerning the Coppers Creek area: in the History of Fulton Co, IL it says my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY was first a resident there, before moving to Deerfield. I believe this may show a connection between Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY and Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY. Also, the death certificate of my ancestor John Oscar Mills b. 1857 IL, stated his father's name was ISAAC Mills, however I have proven that was not true. His father was William H. Mills, s/o Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY. But from the use of the name ISAAC Mills, meaning that he must have spoken in life about an Isaac Mills, so that his daughter in Oregon mistakenly thought that was his father's name. I think Isaac Mills was older cousin to John O. Mills. Ira Mills b. 1809 NY, listed in 1860 census at Coppers Creek, he is actually living next to Alonzo Mills, he is not married, I feel he is the brother of Alonzo. In 1853 there was a courtcase in Fulton Co IL between Ira Mills and Gideon Mills. I feel they are probably related. William H. Mills b. 1827 IL, listed in the 1860 census at Canton, Fulton Co IL, he is the son of Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY, his wife is Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus, s/o Lebbeus Simmons of MA. Children are: George, Charles, John Oscar, Estella, Ellen, Lebbeus Gideon, and Edward. My ancestor is John Oscar Mills, who ent to Oregon later. Those are the 5 men named Mills living in Fulton Co IL in 1860, I believe that Abraham Mills b. 1822 IN is not related to the other 4 men. I believe that Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY, and Ira Mills b. 1809 NY, and Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY, could all be BROTHERS, or cousins. I feel that they may directly related to the SMITHTOWN-MILL POND Mills family line. But I need help to make the connections. Can anyone tell me about TIMOTHY MILLS b. 1746 d. 1818 in Illinois. Is this the link between these Smithtown, NY Mills families and my Mills family in Illinois? The 1830 census at Smithtown, Suffolk Co, NY shows Gideon Mills, who I believe is the Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 (not my own Gideon b. 1797) Same location is a Timothy Mills, a William Mills, and a Franklin Mills. Best regards, Lilly Martin

Hello Mr. Smith, Thanks for the reply. I already had that record several years ago, thank you for taking the time to look for it. Emeline Bishop was first married to a Mr. Marsten (that is how his name is written in a biography of her in Fulton Co IL). Obviously Marsten and Hartson are very similar. I have never been very interested in Emeline Bishop because she is not my ancestor, she is the second wife of Gideon Mills. My ancestor William H. Mills is born of his first wife, who is unknown. When the biography of Gideon Mills and his second wife Emeline Bispho was written in Fulton Co IL, they only focused on his second marriage and their kids, and breifly mentioned her first husband, and her father. Since she is not my ancestor I did delve into her side, but I am looking for the first wife, who was mother to William H. Mills b. 1827 or 1833 (depending on census records). Thank you for telling me about Smithtown and Mill Pond, I thought they were separate, but in the same county location. I am hoping someone with an interst in the MILLS family of Sufflok Co NY might be able to assist me in placing Gideon with the proper family unit. Additionally, I have other MIlls family, also from NY, which also settled in the same place in Fulton Co NY, some have legal documents which tend to link the families together, such as law suits, and I could give those names as well. This might be an opportunity for Mills researchers to find some long lost relatives, and fill in some gaps. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: ehlsmith@att.net To: Lilly Martin ; NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY Lilly, The International Genealogical Index at the LDS website www.familysearch.org shows the 23 June 1840 marriage in Knox IL of Gideon Mills to Emeline Hartson. BTW- Mills Pond is within the Town of Smithtown. The Mills Pond Mills and the Smithtown Mills are the same. Ned Smith -------------- Original message from "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>: -------------- > Thanks to Eileen, I now have the 1840 location of my ancestor Gideon Mills > b. 1797 NY. > > In the 1850 census shown here below, Gideon Mills is listed with his > SECOND > wife, who was Emeline Bishop. She was first marrried to a mr. MARSTEN and > the children with her names Sarah, James, and Lois were from her first > marriage. Her husband died, and she remarried to Gideon Mills. I feel that > Gideon's first wife died also, but I do not know where, or when, but > probably prior to the 1840 census, since I feel that the 1840 census > listing > is for Emeline Bishop Mills, his second wife. > > The life of Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL, where he died in 1870, is fairly > well detailed by me, but what I LACK is any information about WHAT Mills > family he belongs to In New York. > > I know the there was a very big and historic MILLS family in SMITHTOWN and > in MILL POND , New York. I am asking for help with those 2 specific MILLS > family lines, to see if any other researcher might see a way to fit me > into > either of those 2 well researched family lines. They seem to be the 2 > obvious choices. Can anyone help me? > > For example: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mill Pond, Suffolk Co NY. Does > this > man relate to my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY? Or pure coincidence? > > I am also needing help to find Gideon Mills in the 1830 census, he should > be > 31 years old, and married, and with a few kids. My ancestor was William > Mills b. about 1827-1833,based on various census records. > > I have made a list of every man named MILLS who was from NY who settled in > Fulton Co IL at an early date, along with Gideon Mills, be glad to s hare > that with any Mills researchers. > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eileen" > To: "Lilly Martin" ; > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > > > > Hello Lilly, > > Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; > > 1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) > > Gideon Mills Household; > > 1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) > > 1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) > > 2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) > > 1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) > > 1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) > > > > 1850 Ill Fulton County Utica > > 83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY > > Emeline f. 38 CT > > David M. " m.11 ILL > > Nellson G. " m.6 ILL > > Hester H. " f.4 ILL > > Sarah " f. 2 ILL > > Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name could > > be Wartren?) > > James " m.20 Canada > > Lois " f.16 Canada > > Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT > > 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lilly Martin" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM > > Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > > > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 > >> he > >> was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. > >> > >> I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his > >> way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. > >> > >> I do not know h is first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline > >> Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second > >> marriage. > >> > >> I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 > >> approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton > >> Co > >> IL. > >> This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who > >> was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) > >> William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, > >> but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, > >> and his father was a FARMER. > >> > >> Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in > >> 1870. > >> I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which > >> MILLS > >> family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon > >> Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? > >> > >> My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where > >> she > >> died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names of: > >> GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. > >> Best regards, > >> Lilly Martin > > > ==== NYSUFFOL Mailing List ==== > If in the area, visit us at the Lynbrook FHC, 10 Penninsula BLVD, > Lynbrook,NY > 11563 > For Long Island Talking book info, goto: > http://www.litbl.org/appl-inst-info.pdf > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Forwarded....Unc ----- Original Message ----- From: <ehlsmith@att.net> To: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>; <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > Lilly, > > The International Genealogical Index at the LDS website www.familysearch.org shows the 23 June 1840 marriage in Knox IL of Gideon Mills to Emeline Hartson. > > BTW- Mills Pond is within the Town of Smithtown. The Mills Pond Mills and the Smithtown Mills are the same. > > Ned Smith > > -------------- Original message from "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>: -------------- > > > > Thanks to Eileen, I now have the 1840 location of my ancestor Gideon Mills > > b. 1797 NY. > > > > In the 1850 census shown here below, Gideon Mills is listed with his SECOND > > wife, who was Emeline Bishop. She was first marrried to a mr. MARSTEN and > > the children with her names Sarah, James, and Lois were from her first > > marriage. Her husband died, and she remarried to Gideon Mills. I feel that > > Gideon's first wife died also, but I do not know where, or when, but > > probably prior to the 1840 census, since I feel that the 1840 census listing > > is for Emeline Bishop Mills, his second wife. > > > > The life of Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL, where he died in 1870, is fairly > > well detailed by me, but what I LACK is any information about WHAT Mills > > family he belongs to In New York. > > > > I know the there was a very big and historic MILLS family in SMITHTOWN and > > in MILL POND , New York. I am asking for help with those 2 specific MILLS > > family lines, to see if any other researcher might see a way to fit me into > > either of those 2 well researched family lines. They seem to be the 2 > > obvious choices. Can anyone help me? > > > > For example: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mill Pond, Suffolk Co NY. Does this > > man relate to my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY? Or pure coincidence? > > > > I am also needing help to find Gideon Mills in the 1830 census, he should be > > 31 years old, and married, and with a few kids. My ancestor was William > > Mills b. about 1827-1833,based on various census records. > > > > I have made a list of every man named MILLS who was from NY who settled in > > Fulton Co IL at an early date, along with Gideon Mills, be glad to share > > that with any Mills researchers. > > Best regards, > > Lilly Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eileen" > > To: "Lilly Martin" ; > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > > > > > > > Hello Lilly, > > > Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; > > > 1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) > > > Gideon Mills Household; > > > 1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) > > > 1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) > > > 2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) > > > 1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) > > > 1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) > > > > > > 1850 Ill Fulton County Utica > > > 83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY > > > Emeline f. 38 CT > > > David M. " m.11 ILL > > > Nellson G. " m.6 ILL > > > Hester H. " f.4 ILL > > > Sarah " f. 2 ILL > > > Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name could > > > be Wartren?) > > > James " m.20 Canada > > > Lois " f.16 Canada > > > Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT > > > 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lilly Martin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM > > > Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > > > > > > > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 he > > >> was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. > > >> > > >> I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his > > >> way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. > > >> > > >> I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline > > >> Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second > > >> marriage. > > >> > > >> I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 > > >> approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton Co > > >> IL. > > >> This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who > > >> was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) > > >> William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, > > >> but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, > > >> and his father was a FARMER. > > >> > > >> Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. > > >> I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS > > >> family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon > > >> Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? > > >> > > >> My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where she > > >> died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names of: > > >> GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. > > >> Best regards, > > >> Lilly Martin > > > > > > ==== NYSUFFOL Mailing List ==== > > If in the area, visit us at the Lynbrook FHC, 10 Penninsula BLVD, Lynbrook,NY > > 11563 > > For Long Island Talking book info, goto: > > http://www.litbl.org/appl-inst-info.pdf > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

Thanks to Eileen, I now have the 1840 location of my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY. In the 1850 census shown here below, Gideon Mills is listed with his SECOND wife, who was Emeline Bishop. She was first marrried to a mr. MARSTEN and the children with her names Sarah, James, and Lois were from her first marriage. Her husband died, and she remarried to Gideon Mills. I feel that Gideon's first wife died also, but I do not know where, or when, but probably prior to the 1840 census, since I feel that the 1840 census listing is for Emeline Bishop Mills, his second wife. The life of Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL, where he died in 1870, is fairly well detailed by me, but what I LACK is any information about WHAT Mills family he belongs to In New York. I know the there was a very big and historic MILLS family in SMITHTOWN and in MILL POND , New York. I am asking for help with those 2 specific MILLS family lines, to see if any other researcher might see a way to fit me into either of those 2 well researched family lines. They seem to be the 2 obvious choices. Can anyone help me? For example: Gideon Smith Mills b. 1788 Mill Pond, Suffolk Co NY. Does this man relate to my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY? Or pure coincidence? I am also needing help to find Gideon Mills in the 1830 census, he should be 31 years old, and married, and with a few kids. My ancestor was William Mills b. about 1827-1833,based on various census records. I have made a list of every man named MILLS who was from NY who settled in Fulton Co IL at an early date, along with Gideon Mills, be glad to share that with any Mills researchers. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> To: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org>; <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > Hello Lilly, > Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; > 1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) > Gideon Mills Household; > 1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) > 1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) > 2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) > 1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) > 1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) > > 1850 Ill Fulton County Utica > 83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY > Emeline f. 38 CT > David M. " m.11 ILL > Nellson G. " m.6 ILL > Hester H. " f.4 ILL > Sarah " f. 2 ILL > Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name could > be Wartren?) > James " m.20 Canada > Lois " f.16 Canada > Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT > 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> > To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM > Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > > >> Hello, >> >> My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 he >> was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. >> >> I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his >> way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. >> >> I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline >> Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second >> marriage. >> >> I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 >> approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton Co >> IL. >> This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who >> was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) >> William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, >> but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, >> and his father was a FARMER. >> >> Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. >> I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS >> family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon >> Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? >> >> My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where she >> died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names of: >> GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. >> Best regards, >> Lilly Martin

Hello Lilly, Here are some transcripts for you which may help you; 1840 Ill Franklin County(no town given) Gideon Mills Household; 1 male age 40-50 (b.1790-1800) 1 female age 20-30 (b.1810-1820) 2 males age 10-15 (b.1825-1830) 1 female age 5-10 (b.1830-1835) 1 female age 0-5(b.1835-1840) 1850 Ill Fulton County Utica 83-88 Giddeon Mills m.53 teamster b. NY Emeline f. 38 CT David M. " m.11 ILL Nellson G. " m.6 ILL Hester H. " f.4 ILL Sarah " f. 2 ILL Susan Hartren f. 12 Canada (last name could be Wartren?) James " m.20 Canada Lois " f.16 Canada Benjamin Hale m. 17 CT 89 Ira Mills m.47 farmer 10,000 NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: [NYSUF] The MILLS family line of Suffolk Co NY > Hello, > > My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 he > was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. > > I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his > way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. > > I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline Bishop > of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second marriage. > > I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 > approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton Co > IL. > This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who was > from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) > William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, but > did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, and his > father was a FARMER. > > Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. > I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS > family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon > Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? > > My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where she > died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names of: > GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > > ==== NYSUFFOL Mailing List ==== > Check the Genweb project at: > www.usgenweb.org > and Worldconnect at: > www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

According to today's (Monday, November 14) NEWSDAY, "During the Revolutionary War, Gen. George Washington took a keen interest in the tiniest details of how his spies operated, right down to the formula for invisible ink." NEWSDAY continues, "The letter was written in 1779 by Washington to his chief of intelligence, Gen. Benjamin Tallmadge, and focuses -- without naming him -- on the man who historians have called the Revolution's most important spy, Robert Townsend of (the Hamlet of) Oyster Bay (in the Town of Oyster Bay, then Queens County and now Nassau County). His code name was Culper Jr., and Washington, at his own request, never learned his true identity." This historically important letter being auctioned in Manhattan tomorrow by Christie's. To read the complete NEWSDAY article, "Washington's letter goes on auction block", please go to: <http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-lispy134512321nov14,0,2676788 .story> I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

On 11/13/05 (12:25:32 PM MST), in a posting to NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com, Ken Leib (LazerKen@aol.com) wrote, "For those interested in Salt Lake City for pleasure or gene search, today's NYT, Travel section has an excellent article on the city." Thanks for the head's up on this, Ken. Here's the URL for that New York Times Travel section article on Salt Lake City: http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/11/13/travel/13going.html You may have to register (it's free) with the New York Times to access this article. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//jUB.2ACI/1101 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Dr. George Burton and his family. This is the info that I have and would like to conform any of it. He was born in England and died October 17, 1843 and is buried in the Old State Rd (AKA) Union Grove Preston or Pond Cemetery, Farmington, Warren County PA. He was married to Almira Ruland on November 9, 1795 and Anna Bradely June 29, 1816 Children were Henry, Sarah, Jeremiah, Matilda, James Hubbs, George Hartley Wilford, and Almira. Had one son with Anna, William Henry. Any information on these families would be greatly appreciated.

A request for some gravestone photos at Commack Cemetery was posted on li-rooters@genexchange.org: If you or someone you know can take such photos, please let me know and I'll forward this information to the person that posted the request. I think that the cemetery mentioned in this posting is the: Commack Cemetery 450 Town Line Road Commack, NY 11725 But, it could also be referring to the immediately adjoining cemetery: Commack United Methodist Cemetery 486 Town Line Road Commack, NY 11725 Thanks. Walter Greenspan

Hello, My ancestor is Gideon Mills who was born in 1797 in New York. By 1860 he was firmly and finally settled in Fulton Co IL. I don't have access to the 1850 census, perhaps he was somewhere on his way to Fulton Co at that point, I don't know. I do not know his first wifes name, but he later married an Emeline Bishop of Illinois as his second wife, and that was also her second marriage. I do know that his son, by his first wife, was William H. Mills b. 1827 approximately. This info comes from the 1860 census of Canton, Fulton Co IL. This William married Rosella Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus Simmons (who was from a Simmons line of Mass, to Maine, to Mercer Co PA) William and Rosella married in IL and settled in Canton for some time, but did move away and I have lost them. William H. Mills was a COOPER, and his father was a FARMER. Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY remained in Fulton Co IL and died there in 1870. I would like to find his parents, and his first wife, and to which MILLS family line he belongs to in NY. Does anyone recognise the name Gideon Mills of New York, and into which Mills line this name would belong to? My theory is, he married a local NY girl, and then moved to IL, where she died, and he remarried. What MILLS families tended to use the names of: GIDEON and WILLIAM H. ???? Those are my clues. Best regards, Lilly Martin

There is a new searchable database up on the GGG website. www.GermanGenealogyGroup.com This database contains an index to selected years of the Bronx, Kings and Queens County brides marriage records. The set is NOT complete. If the record you are searching for is not here, try other research avenues. Additional records for the County of Manhattan will be added in the future. This index was compiled from the 3 x 5 index cards provided by the Staff at the NYC Municipal Archives. The index includes the following years: Bronx 1899 through 1937 Kings 1871 through 1910, 1931 through 1937 Queens 1905 through 1937. Not all years are 100% complete. There are over 673,000 records in the index so we feel it is worthwhile to make these available at this time. Enjoy!

According to today's (Tuesday, November 8) NEWSDAY, "In a move that could alter the future of Long Island's East End, a federal judge yesterday described the Shinnecock Indian Nation of Southampton (sic) as a bonafide tribe, potentially paving the way for the group to pursue a casino in Hampton Bays as well as sweeping land claims around their reservation." The article includes a well detailed map (click on the map to see the larger version), showing the land where the Shinnecocks want to build a casino, other lands that they claim (3,600 acres of their ancestral land in the Town of Southampton, including the famed Shinnecock Hills Golf Club, National Golf Links, and Southampton College). The tribe is also seeking monetary damages for the fair market value of the land, plus 150 years in past rent and interest -- possibly billions of dollars. In its legal papers, the tribe stated that their land was illegally taken from them, a large tract of it in the mid-19th century. For the complete NEWSDAY article, "Legal victory for Shinnecocks", please go to: <http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-lishin084503591nov08,0 ,4013980.story?coll=ny-linews-print> I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jindrich Fiala Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1100 Message Board Post: Looking for info on the following from the Lake Ronkronkoma area of Suffolk county: Mary (Jindrich) Fiala b: c 1885 and ???? Fiala b: c Nov 1885 (son) Fiala b: c Nov 1903 (daughter) Fiala b: c Jun 1905 Francis (Jindrich) ??? ????? b: c 1883 d: 18 Dec 1934 Suffolk Co., Suicide Mary was a cousin of my grandfather and was living in Suffolk Co. in 1936 with her husband, their children were in the NYC/LI area also. The son had 2 sons, the daughter had 1 son. This info from a letter sent by Mary to my grandfather in early 1936. Would like to tie these folks to one of the 3 brothers of my g-grandfather. Any help would be very much appreciated.