This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1059.1 Message Board Post: I have Rorke in my line! Immigration from Ireland to Chicago area. Will pass this on to direct decendents.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Weeks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/72.279.3.1.2 Message Board Post: Dearest Ms. Dayton, I am looking for my great grandfather who I believe was a Weeks from Islip. My grandfather was Benjamin Ernest Weeks born Long Island 1869. I have had no luck going back any further. He is on the 1920 census in Elmhurst NY but can't trace him to Islip, though I am certain that that is where he was born. The actual name of the town is Patchogue today. I noticed that your Smith Weeks had son, Benjamin, who was 25 when Smith Weeks was 49 but I have no context of what year this was, if it was 1850 or not. If you could be of any assistance that would be wonderful, I am new to all this and do not know where to start looking. Thanks again, Elizabeth Weeks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MIX Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1111 Message Board Post: Arthur b. in Byron Co., IL 1885. Suspect father was William H. Mix but need confirmation. Local paper contains obit on 1/28/1972 need a lookup to see if his father is mentioned.

On 12/26/05 (8:08:34 PM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Darlene Moody (darmoo719@aol.com) asked, "To Whom It May Concern: My name is Darlene Moody. I am trying to find the obituary of James Scott who was married to Phoebe Loper Payne. He was a cook on a ship. He was lost at sea in December, 1894. Presumably swept overboard. They lived in East Hampton, NY. This is my Great great grandfather on my mother's side." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the East Hampton Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): East Hampton Library 159 Main Street East Hampton, NY 11937 Tel: 631/324-0222 Fax: 631/329-5947 eMail: ehamlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://www.easthamptonlibrary.org/ The pertinent geography: East Hampton is a village (incorporated in 1920) in the southwest part of the Town of East Hampton, in the southeast part of Suffolk County. There are currently 2 villages (municipal corporations) and 7 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of East Hampton. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of East Hampton in the Town of East Hampton is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Wainscott and the Hamlet of East Hampton North; on the east by the Hamlet of Amagansett; on the south by the Great South Bay; and on the west by the Hamlet of East Hampton. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Village of East Hampton has a different border than does the "East Hampton, NY 11937" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an East Hampton mailing address and not be in East Hampton). Those places that have an "East Hampton, NY" mailing address that are not in the Village of East Hampton are in the Hamlet of East Hampton North, the Hamlet of Amagansett and the Hamlet of Springs. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of East Hampton (incorporated in 1920) in the Town of East Hampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 32 (map) and 33 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Chag Sameach* Chanukah, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * KHAHG sah-MEHY-ahkh = A Joyous Holiday The 8-day rabbinic Festival of Chanukah begins Sunday night, December 25. . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

darmoo719@aol.com wrote: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: darmoo719@aol.com Subject: SUFFOLK COUNTY OBITUARY To: NYSUFFOL-Admin@rootsweb.com To Whom It May Concern: My name is Darlene Moody. I am trying to find the obituary of James Scott who was married to Phoebe Loper Payne. He was a cook on a ship. He was lost at sea in December, 1894. Presumably swept overboard. They lived in East Hampton, NY. This is my Great great grandfather on my mother's side. Thank you for any help you can give me!!! Sincerely, Darlene Moody @ darmoo719@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Sorry, forgot to mention my computer is crashed, and I'll have to look into my hard-copy after the holidays to find REED connection. GINNY 2

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am sure it is the same family, though there were a couple of other brothers, some born in East Hampton, others born before in Southampton. Joseph went to Guilford CT ca 1662 after father died. All were children of John HAND and Alice GRANSDEN 1632 to LYNN MA and than on to Long Island by 1642. Three of their brothers, Shamgar, Thomas and Benjamen went to CAPE MAY NJ ca 1700. Thomas is my line. GINNY2 at ginnynumbertwo@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Merry Christmas! I found the 4 brothers of the Hand Family in E. Hampton, NY. Stephen 1661, Samuel 1672,Stephen 1674, and Joseph 1664; 6 Sisters; Sarah,Alice,Elizabeth,Rebecca Esther, Abigail. Is this the correct family? Which Reed married into the Hand family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1110.1 Message Board Post: On 12/23/05 (7:29:49 AM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board tyhat was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Phyllis Goff (mother3237@chsrter.net) asked, "I am hoping to get an obit for Herbert Llyle Goff, born 1893 and died in Farmingdale, NY in 1984. He is buried in Long Island National Nationatl Cemetery Will pay for information. Also buried with Lyle is his wife Pauline died May 1993/" For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Farmingdale Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Farmingdale Public Library 116 Merritts Road Farmingdale, NY 11735 Tel: 516/249-9090 Fax: 516/???-???? eMail: falmail@nls.lib.ny.us http://www.nassaulibrary.org/farmingd/ It is important to note that East Farmingdale is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where none of the places in the community have the name of the hamlet as part of their mailing address. The pertinent geography: East Farmingdale is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Babylon, in the southwest part of Suffolk County (along the Babylon/Huntington/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line). There are 3 villages (municipal corporations) and 12 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Babylon. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of East Farmingdale in the Town of Babylon is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Melville in the Town of Huntington (the Babylon/Huntington Town line); on the east by the Hamlets of Wyandanch and West Babylon; on the south by the Hamlets of North Lindenhurst and North Amityville and, on the west by the Village of Farmingdale, Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County (the Babylon/Oyster Bay Town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the hamlet and the postal zone that use the same name, have much different borders: In this case there is no "East Farmingdale, NY" postal zone and places in the Hamlet of East Farmingdale have other than an "East Farmingdale, NY" mailing address (these places have a "Farmingdale, NY 11735" mailing address). In addition to the Farmingdale addresses in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, about 3 of every 4 Farmingdale addresses in Nassau County are also not in the Village of Farmingdale: these paces with a Farmingdale address that are not in the Village of Farmingdale are in the Hamlet of South Farmingdale and in the Hamlet of Plainedge. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of East Farmingdale in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 18 (map) and 19 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Chag Sameach* Chanukah, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * KHAHG sah-MEHY-ahkh = A Joyous Holiday The 8-day rabbinic Festival of Chanukah begins Sunday night, December 25. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1110 Message Board Post: I am hoping to get an obit for Herbert Llyle Goff, born 1893 and died in Farmingdale, NY in 1984. He is buried in Long Island National Nationatl Cemetery Will pay for information. Also buried with Lyle is his wife Pauline died May 1993 Thank you for your help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/929.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I believe that REED is a name the HAND FAMILY married into there. They lived in MA till about 1644 when they went first to Southampton and 1649 to Easthampton. One of the brothers, Joseph, moved to Guilford CT ca 1662. My line of HANDS had 3 more brothers move to CAPE MAY NJ ca 1700. GINNY 2 at ginnynumbertwo@yahoo.com

Generation One. > Smith Brower [sr.] b. 1817 in Queens Co., NY d. 1907 in Suffolk Co.,NY > (Smith, Susan, Ezra and Elizabeth are buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Bay > Shore, Long Island) > - wife Susan (maiden name unknown) 1821-1891 > -- I don't have Smith and Susan's marriage date or Susan's parents. Genration Two: > Ezra Brower 10Jun1838 - 13Mar1915 > - wife Elizabeth Brower Pullis 03Feb1837 - 20 Jun1923 > --Elizabeth daughter of Peter Pullis (1803-1890) and Charlotte Hallock > (1802-1879) Generation Three: > Smith Brower [jr.] Dec 1858 - 05Feb1933 > - wife Ella Johnson Clock Aug 1854 -16Oct1939 > -- Ella daughter of Stephen W. Clock (1836-1888) and Amanda Roseman > (1831-1908) > --- Amanda Roseman I believe has 4 connections to Richard Smith, one of > the founders of > Smithtown, Long Island. The above man named Smith Brower b. 1817 in Queens Co, NY might be the son of James Brower and Susan Smith. James and Susan Smith had a daughter named Jane Brower b. 1800 who married Samuel Abrams. I am 'thinking' that the name SMITH was in honor of the prominate Smith family of Long Island. I have no idea. In the 1820 census at Queens Co NY, there is ONLY 1 Brower household listed and that is James Brower, listed almost nextdoor to James Smith, and on the same page as Jacob Brewer. The Brouwer/Brower/Brewer names can be all one ancestry, or they could be separate and distinct ancestral lines. My experience has been with the immigrant Adam Brouwer who arrived in Manhattan in 1642, and settled in Brooklyn. I am not familiar with the BROWER name in Eastern section of Long Island. Can anyone shed light on this Smith Brower family? Here are the census locations for this family: #1. 1850 living at Islip, Suffolk Co Ny #2. 1860 " " " " #3. 1870 " " " " #4. 1880 " " " " Smith Brower b. 1817 was a Boat man, his son John was a Livery stable owner, his son Alonzo was a Boatman, his son Henry was a Station agent, his son Ezra was a Seaman. Please write back with information or connections. Best regards, Lilly Martin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moran Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1109 Message Board Post: Your two baby sisters (adoptee's - Moran) are searching for you. Any info most welcome! I'm a friend just trying to help. Liz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moran Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1108 Message Board Post: I'm helping two sisters (adoptee's - Moran) find their older sister, Mary Ann. Liz

On 12/13/05 (4:06:46 PM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Nancy (nancy.holguin@att.net) asked, " Which tribe was at Riverhead in 1880-90, the Shinnecocks or the Corchaugs? For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Riverhead Free Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Riverhead Free Library 330 Court Street Riverhead, NY 11901 Tel: 631/727-3228 Fax: 631/727-4762 eMail: rflref@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://river.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ It is important to know that there are 3 "Riverheads" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Hamlet of Riverhead 2. There is the Riverhead, NY 11901 postal zone 3. There is the Town of Riverhead The current pertinent geography: Riverhead is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the central part of the Town of Riverhead, in the northeast part of Suffolk County. There are no villages (municipal corporations) and 7 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Riverhead (Riverhead is the only town in either Suffolk or Nassau County without any villages within its borders). There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Riverhead in the Town of Riverhead is bordered on the north by Long Island Sound; on the east by the Hamlets of Northville and Aquebogue; on the south by the Hamlet of Riverside in the Town of Southampton (the Riverhead/Southampton Town line); and, on the west by the Hamlets of Calverton and Baiting Hollow. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Riverhead has a different border than does the "Riverhead, NY 11901" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Riverhead mailing address and not be in Riverhead). These places that have a "Riverhead, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Riverhead are in the Hamlets of Northampton, Riverside and Flanders in the Town of Southampton, as well as in the Hamlets of Baiting Hollow and Northville in the Town of Riverhead. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Riverhead in the Town of Riverhead, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 26 (map) and 27 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

Which tribe was at Riverhead in 1880-90, the Shinnecocks or the Corchaugs? Nancy

On 12/11/05 (11:29:58 AM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Linda Pollock of Bonneville Co id (mslinnie2004@cableone.net) asked, "I am writing to see if someone could find an obituary for me from your county for William C Bowen born 21 Mar 1938 died 27 Mar 2005 ss number 075-30-7917 11727 Coram Suffolk Ny. I think his middle name is Clayton if this is the person I am searching for.. If it is his parents are or were Clayton N Bowen and Gladys Lucille Bowen. They came from Atoka Co Ok. His wife's name was Ann Bowen and his brother was Clarence Leroy of Bonneville Co Id. I would so much appreciate finding his obits. He may be my mom in law's brother ." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Longwood Public Library: Longwood Public Library 800 Middle Country Road Middle Island, NY 11953 Tel: 631/924-6400 Fax: 631/924-7538 eMail: edonlon@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://longwood.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Coram is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the central part of the Town of Brookhaven, in the central part of Suffolk County. There are 8 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Coram in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by Hamlet of Terryville, the Hamlet of Mount Sinai and the Hamlet of Miller Place; on the east by the Hamlet of Middle Island and the Hamlet of Gordon Heights; on the south by the Hamlet of Medford; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Farmingville, the Hamlet of Selden and the Hamlet of Terryville. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Coram has a different border than does the "Coram, NY 11727" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Coram mailing address and not be in Coram and a place can have other than a Coram mailing address and be in Coram). Those places that have a "Coram, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Coram are in the Hamlet of Middle Island, the Hamlet of Gordon Heights, the Hamlet of Medford and the Hamlet of Selden; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Coram with a "Selden, NY 11784", a "Port Jefferson Station, NY 11776" and a "Middle Island, NY 11953" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Coram in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

I am writing to see if someone could find an obituary for me from your county for William C Bowen born 21 Mar 1938 died 27 Mar 2005 ss number 075-30-7917 11727 Coram Suffolk Ny. I think his middle name is Clayton if this is the person I am searching for.. If it is his parents are or were Clayton N Bowen and Gladys Lucille Bowen. They came from Atoka Co Ok. His wife's name was Ann Bowen and his brother was Clarence Leroy of Bonneville Co Id. I would so much appreciate finding his obits. He may be my mom in law's brother . Thank you. Linda Pollock of Bonneville Co id ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYSUFFOL-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NYSUFFOL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: NYSUFFOL-D Digest V05 #193

Cold Spring Harbor is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where the majority of the places with the community name in their mailing address are not in the hamlet and it's interesting that the Cold Spring Harbor Whaling Museum is ACTUALLY in Cold Spring Harbor. The other major "Cold Spring Harbor" places -- Cold Spring Harbor Fish Hatchery & Aquarium and the Cold Spring Harbor Lab, -- are actually across the county line in the Village of Laurel Hollow (Cold Spring Harbor P.O.). The pertinent geography: Cold Spring Harbor is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Huntington, in the northwest part of Suffolk County, along the Huntington/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau county line. There are 4 villages (municipal corporations) and 15 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Huntington. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington is bordered on the north by the Village of Lloyd Harbor; on the east by the Hamlet of Huntington and the Hamlet of Huntington Station; on the south by the Hamlet of West Hills; and, on the west by the Village of Laurel Hallow in the Town of Oyster Bay in Nassau County (the Huntington/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor has a different border than does the "Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Cold Spring Harbor mailing address and not be in Cold Spring Harbor). The "Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724" postal zone includes areas in the Village of Lloyd Harbor and the Hamlet of West Hills in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County as well as parts of the Village of Laurel Hollow in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County. (The world-famous Cold Spring Harbor Lab is actually in the Village of Laurel Hollow in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County and not in the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County.) For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 16 (map) and 17 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

But I'll take this opportunity to whish you all the very happiest of Holidays... Regards, Fred, Listowner