This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1146.1 Message Board Post: On 2/21/06 (7:06:02 AM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Hayden Bingham (menbing@optusnet.com.au) asked, "Richard Cartwright, wife Elizabeth and children Jane, Edith and Richard lived on Shore Road, Cold Spring, Suffolk county, NY in 1910. They emigrated from North Wales between 1898 and 1910. Anyone know anything about them please?" There is the Town of Cold Spring in Cattaraugus County and there is the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington in Suffolk County. If your Cartwrights settled in Cold Spring Harbor ... For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Cold Spring Harbor Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Cold Spring Harbor Library 75 Goose Hill Road Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724-1315 Tel: 631/692-6820 Fax: 631/692-6827 eMail: cshrref@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://cshlibrary.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ Cold Spring Harbor is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where the majority of the places with the community name in their mailing address are not in the hamlet. The pertinent geography: Cold Spring Harbor is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Huntington, in the northwest part of Suffolk County, along the Huntington/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau county line. There are 4 villages (municipal corporations) and 15 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Huntington. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington is bordered on the north by the Village of Lloyd Harbor; on the east by the Hamlet of Huntington and the Hamlet of Huntington Station; on the south by the Hamlet of West Hills; and, on the west by the Village of Laurel Hallow in the Town of Oyster Bay in Nassau County (the Huntington/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor has a different border than does the "Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Cold Spring Harbor mailing address and not be in Cold Spring Harbor). The "Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724" postal zone includes areas in the Village of Lloyd Harbor and the Hamlet of West Hills in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County as well as parts of the Village of Laurel Hollow in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County. (The world-famous Cold Spring Harbor Lab is actually in the Village of Laurel Hollow in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County and not in the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County.) For those who have their copy of the 2005 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 16 (map) and 17 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cartwright Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1146 Message Board Post: Richard Cartwright, wife Elizabeth and children Jane, Edith and Richard lived on Shore Road, Cold Spring, Suffolk county, NY in 1910. They emigrated from North Wales between 1898 and 1910. Anyone know anything about them please?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1131.1.1 Message Board Post: Oh, I'm sure they had fertilization. They had animals, didn't they? --Nancy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1103.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Daivd Youngs, like many of Southold, moved in search of readily avaiable, inexpensive farm land.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1131.1 Message Board Post: There is no doubt - they went in search of readily available, less expensive, farm land. Many in Southold, as early as the 1740s, had begun to feel crowded. And there are statements that exist to this effect. But although many families had acquired hundreds - if not thousands - of acres these lands had been divided amonst many successive generations, and in many cases there was little left. This is interesting, since land acquisition here on eastern Long Island had provided families, for the mast part, with considerably larger land possessions than those inhabiting Mass Bay. You must keep in mind also, that these were the days before farm implements or equipment, and the days before fertilization.

Can any one help with the parents of Rodney Conklin? Rodney Conklin born abt 1794 NY shows up on the census 1820 Southold, Suffolk, NY, Roll:M33_74, Pg: 346. 1840 Riverhead, Suffolk, NY, Roll: M704_343, Pg: 244. 1850 Riverhead, Suffolk, NY, Roll: M432_601, Pg:269 Rodney married Sarah Wells b. abt 1799 d/o Elisha Wells and Rhoda Tuthill Children of Rodney and Sarah Conklin (there probably where more) Ira Wells Conklin 1819-1887 Benjamin Conklin 1829- information on Elisha and Rhoda (Tuthill) Wells from William Wells of Southold and His Descendants, A.D. 1638 to 1878 and Tuttle and Tuthill Lines in America Does anyone have more information on Rodney Conklin? Carolee Nichols Diamond

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RUSSELL, LEVERETT, SPERRY, JOHNSON, JOHNSTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1145 Message Board Post: He may have come to New York in less than great circumstances. He was a Mason and later moved to New Haven, CT were his family lived for about 150 years. Suggestions are made that he was acquainted with Alling BALL and that is why he ended up in New Haven. I would appreciate any help that anyone could lend. Thanks so much in advance.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1144.1 Message Board Post: On 2/16/06 (12:48:18 PM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Chuck Wagner (chuck_wagner@charter.net) asked, "Looking for the obit info for Frances Bahlert who died in Port Jefferson Station on Nov 1976." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Comsewogue Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Comsewogue Public Library 170 Terryville Road Port Jefferson Station, NY 11776 Tel: 631/928-1212 Fax: 631/928-6307 eMail form: http://cpl.suffolk.lib.ny.us/askreference.html http://cpl.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ Port Jefferson Station is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where many of the places with the community name in their mailing address are in some other village or hamlet. The pertinent geography: Port Jefferson Station is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Brookhaven, in the north-central part of Suffolk County. There are 8 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Port Jefferson Station in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Setauket, the Village of Port Jefferson and the Hamlet of Mount Sinai; on the east by the Hamlet of Mount Sinai and the Hamlet of Terryville; on the south by the Hamlet of Terryville and the Hamlet of Setauket; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Setauket. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Port Jefferson Station has a different border than does the "Port Jefferson Station, NY 11776" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Port Jefferson Station mailing address and not be in Port Jefferson Station and a place can have other than a Port Jefferson Station mailing address and be in Port Jefferson Station). Those places that have a "Port Jefferson Station, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Port Jefferson Station are in the Village of Port Jefferson, the Hamlet of Mount Sinai, the Hamlet of Coram, the Hamlet of Terryville and the Hamlet of Setauket; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Port Jefferson Station with a "Setauket, NY 11733" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2005 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Port Jefferson Station in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bahlert, Lauber Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1144 Message Board Post: Looking for the obit info for Frances Bahlert who died in Port Jefferson Station on Nov 1976. Thanks Chuck Wagner

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McFadden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1143.1.1 Message Board Post: I appreciate all the info sent but I cannot visit the town offices as I am in New Hampshire - about 400 miles away. Last known address for Jacqueline McFadden was 17 STILES DRIVE, HUNTINGTON, LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK, U.S.A. I do not know which of the 3 "Huntingtons" it is as I have never been there. There are a couple people including myself just trying to help out an older woman who is disabled and not well off to find her sister. Since we are doing this on our own (for free) I was hoping someone who was local to the town and would be going to the town records anyway might help us out.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1143.1 Message Board Post: On 2/13/06 (11:42:39 AM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Peggy (brewstout@adelphia.net) asked, "Could some kind person help me out? I am trying to help reuinte some sisters. They grew up in Glasgow. Ellen McFadden still lives in Scotland and is looking for her sister Jacqueline (born abt 1940) who moved to the town of Huntington on Long Island about 1957. Can someone who is going to the town's record office have a look for a marriage record? Or help me to find out how to look for her? I have an address she lived at back then. Anything would be greatly appreciated. Would be happy to do some NH research in return." In addition to checking with the Town Clerk of the Town of Huntington, you may want to contact the Huntington Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Huntington Public Library 338 Main Street Huntington, NY 11743 Tel: 631/427-5165 Fax: 631/???-????? eMail: huntlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://www.suffolk.lib.ny.us/libraries/hunt/ It is important to know that there are 3 "Huntingtons" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Hamlet of Huntington; 2. There is the Huntington, NY 11743 postal zone and it includes the Hamlet of Huntington and parts of other surrounding villages and hamlets within its service area; and, 3. There is the Town of Huntington and it includes the Huntington, NY 11743 postal zone, as well as other postal zones, within its borders. The pertinent geography: Huntington is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the north part of the Town of Huntington, in the northwest part of Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (municipal corporations) and 15 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Huntington. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Huntington in the Town of Huntington is bordered on the north by Huntington Bay, the Hamlet of Halesite, the Village of Huntington Bay and the Hamlet of Centerport; on the east by the Hamlets of Centerport and Greenlawn; on the south by the Hamlet of Huntington Station; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Cold Spring Harbor and the Village of Lloyd Harbor. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Huntington has a different border than does the "Huntington, NY 11743" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Huntington mailing address and not be in Huntington and a place can have other than a Huntington mailing address and be in Huntington). Those places that have a "Huntington, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Huntington are in the Hamlet of West Hills, the Hamlet of Halesite, the Hamlet of Huntington Bay, the Hamlet of Greenlawn and the Hamlet of Elwood; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Huntington with a "Huntington Station, NY 11746" and a "Greenlawn, NY 11740" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2005 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Huntington in the Town of Huntington, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 16 (map) and 17 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of place shave a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McFadden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1143 Message Board Post: Could some kind person help me out? I am trying to help reuinte some sisters. They grew up in Glasgow. Ellen McFadden still lives in Scotland and is looking for her sister Jacqueline (born abt 1940) who moved to the town of Huntington on Long Island about 1957. Can someone who is going to the town's record office have a look for a marriage record? Or help me to find out how to look for her? I have an address she lived at back then. Anything would be greatly appreciated. Would be happy to do some NH research in return. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/487.1.1 Message Board Post: I don't know how this is going to help you distinguish between these two George Clarks, but the 127th was consolidated with the 54th NY on June 27, 1865. They were stationed at Folly Island, SC. George is listed on the muster rolls of the 54th as a Private, Company E. He is not listed as a Musician. Janet

The Genealogy Federation of Long Island announces their Second Annual Seminar, Farmily Roots II: Where to Begin, How to Continue & Share. The seminar will be held at Stony Brook University, Student Activities Center in Stony Brook, Long Island, New York on Saturday, April 8, 2006 from 8:00 am to 5:00 pm. For details on the day-long program please visit our website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gfli

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kessler Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1142 Message Board Post: Am looking for any info on a Charles J. Kessler, born June 25,1875 in NY possibly Long Island area per the family members. Mr Kessler moved to NJ in 1906-1907 and died there in 1919.

On 2/10/06 (3:59:18 PM MST), in a posting to NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com, ????? (Sue12632@aol.com) asked, "Looking for a library in the Town of Islip, Suffolk Co., L.I., NY that might have NEWSDAY or the LONG ISLAND DAILY PRESS obits on film. Looking for an obit for FLORENCE SHREVE who died in BAY SHORE 14 Feb. 1967." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Bay Shore-Brightwaters Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Bay Shore-Brightwaters Public Library One South Country Road Brightwaters, NY 11718 Tel: 631/665-4350 Fax: 631/665-4958 eMail: bsbwlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://bayshore.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Bay Shore is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the southwestern section of the Town of Islip, in the southwest part of Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (municipal corporations) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Bay Shore in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by Hamlets of Baywood and North Bay Shore; on the east by the Hamlet of Islip; on the south by the Great South Bay; and, on the west by the Village of Brightwaters. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 32 villages and 125 hamlets), the Hamlet of Bay Shore has a different border than does the "Bay Shore, NY 11706" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Bay Shore mailing address and not be in Bay Shore). Those places that have a "Bay Shore, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Bay Shore are in the Hamlet of North Bay Shore, the Hamlet of West Bay Shore, the Hamlet of Baywood, the Hamlet of Islip, the Village of Saltaire and in the Hamlet of Fire Island. For those who have their copy of the 2005 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Bay Shore in the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

Hello, I am researching my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1798 New York, died 11-4-1870 Fulton Co IL. The earliest record for Gideon Mills in Fulton Co IL is 1836, he first settled there on Copperas Creek, then later moved to Deerfield twsp, Fulton Co IL, where he lived until death. He was in Fulton Co IL from at least 1836 thru 1870, his death date. I would like to discover where he was living in 1830 census. He should have been approximately 32 years old. I do not know who his first wife was, or where they married. My only clue is that he had a son named William H. Mills born about 1827 at IL, or NY, or VA. His census statement is not consistant. In a review of 1830 census records listed with the name of Gideon Mills, we find the following nation wide: 1. Moriah, Essex Co, NY 2. Penn, Morgan Co OH 3. Streetsborough, Portage Co OH 4. Hudson, Portage Co OH I feel that the best possible choice for my ancestor is Moriah, Essex Co NY. The men listed for Streetsborough, and for Hudson, OH I believe are Father and Son. I believe that man is identified as: Gideon H. Mills b. 9-1-1802 Simsbury, Hartford Co, CT., he died 9-6-1884. He married Matilda Case 3-19-1828 at Hudson, OH. He was the son of Gideon Mills b. 2-2-1774 Simsbury, CT. (source: Jeffrey Mills jamills@mac.com via rootsweb.com family tree listing) This man was refered to as Squire Mills of Hudson, OH as of 1826, he was recorded as marrying a couple, therefor he was either a Minister, or a Justice of the Peace there. Squire is normally a title used on OLDER prominate men. Could this title identify this man as Gideon Mills b. 2-2-1774 Simsbury, CT, who was the father of Gideon H. Mills b. 9-1-1802 Simsbury, CT, who moved to Streetboro, OH? Gideon H. Mills (b. 9-1-1802 CT) was elected Constable on 4-2-1827 at Portage Co OH. The first settlers came to Streetsboro, Oh in 1798, by 1822 the area was divided into lots of 100 acres, and was selling for $2.00 per acres. The big industry at Streetsboro, OH was CHEESE production. Streetsboro and Hudson, OH are very close to each other, they are found North of Akron, and South of Cleveland. I do not know much about the Gideon Mills listed at Penn, Morgan Co OH, except that according to Ohio Records ansd Pioneer Families, there is a Gideon Mills Family Bible on record. This makes me believe this would not be the same man as my ancestor, because my ancestor spent the majority of his life in Fulton Co IL. I believe this man must be another man with the same name. The name Gideon Mills seems to be very popular, in certain areas. Especially so in the area of Hartford Co, CT, the communities of West Simbury and Canton. There is a very long list of men name Gideon Mills. Several of them seem to have been Ministers of the gospel. I will try to list here the ones that I know of so far, thinking that my own ancestor's name perhaps was given to him in honor of a prior wel known Gideon Mills. 1. Rev. Gideon Mills b. 8-15-1715 Windsor, CT., s/o Peter, s/o Pieter Wouterse van der Meulen b. 1622 Holland, d. about 1702 CT, immigrated from Leyden, Holland in 1650, in the 1660's he was in CT, he was of Dutch ancestry, he changed his name to Peter Mills. Rev. Gideon Mills married Elizabeth Higley, he was the second installed Minister at the Congregational Church, organized in 1750, located at Canton, CT, this church was formerly of West Simsbury. He was installed about 1759 or 1761, he died in 8-4-1772 Canton, CT. This man is perhaps the FIRST Gideon Mills in this family line, or area? I am just beginning research, so I might be wrong. 2. There was another famous Gideon Mills, he was married to Ruth Humprey, he was said to have been a Revolutionary War Vet, there daughter was Ruth Mills b. 2-16-1771 West Simsbury, CT, d. 12-9-1808, m. Owen Brown 2-13-1793. Their son was John Brown b. 5-9-1800 Torrington, CT, d. 12-2-1859 Charleston, WV, buried at North Elba, Essex Co., NY. Some of the children of John Brown were born at Hudson, Portage Co OH. This Gideon Mills is also called a Minister/Reverend. John Brown was a famous man in US History, he was an abolitionist, meaning he was against the concept and practice of Slavery in America, he died because of his anti-slavery beliefs, and the actions that he took to fight slavery. Some called him fanatic, some called him insane, some called him a criminal, he was controversial. John Brown was grandson of Gideon Mills of CT, and was settled for a period at Hudson, OH during 1836-1837 time frame, at the same time there was also Gideon Mills of Simsbury, Hartford Co, CT also settled there, in fact 2 men by that name, who I think are father and son, one in Hudson, OH as of 1830 census, the other at Streetsboro, OH nearby in the same 1830 census. I think there is possibly a connection between these people. John Brown was buried in Essex Co NY, were the Mills families of Essex Co NY also related to the Mills families of Hartford Co CT? Was there a migration of Mills families from Hartford Co CT to Essex Co NY? The Mills names which appear on the census of Essex Co NY are: 1800 census Timothy Mills, Jay, Essex Co NY 1810 " Aaron " Schroon Lake, " " " Stephen " " " " " " Richard " " 1820 " David " " " " " " Samuel " " " " " " Silas " Ticonderoga, " 1830 " Gideon " Moriah, " I looked at the 1830 census immage of Gideon Mills, and found the household looked like this: there were 2 little boys under 5 yrs of age, 1 young man aged 15-20 yrs, 2 young men aged 20-30, 1 little girl aged under 5 yrs, 1 little girl aged 5-10 yrs, 1 girl aged 10-15, and 1 lady aged 30-40. Gideon Mills who is listed as Head of Household then must be one of the young men aged 20-30, and my ancestor should have been 33 yrs old at the time. This would make a 3 year discrpency on the age, but it is close enough to study further as possible. It would appear the 2 young men are not married yet, unless one was married to either a young girl, or an older woman. Either case could be true. If this census is indeed my ancestor Gideon Mills, then one of the little boys would be William H. Mills born about 1827, and either Gideon Mills was married to a girl younger than he, or older than he, or perhaps the mother of William was dead by then? In the 1860 census, at Moriah, Essex Co NY there is listed a man named William Mills, he is living in the household of Cheney Simpson 50, and his wife Mabel 46. I think that William Mills aged 87 born NY is probably the father of Mabel Simpson. Nearby in the Mineville Cemetery, Moriah, Essex Co NY is buried William Mills b. about 1770 d. 3-9-1861, his wife Hannah Mills b. about 1780 d. 2-10-1852. I believe this is the same man in the 1860 census at Moriah, NY. How does William Mills b. abt 1770 relate to Gideon Mills b. 1797 NY, my ancestor? Is my ancestor Gideon Mills related to any of the various Mills families in Essex Co NY? Was my ancestor born in or around Essex Co NY? Who did he marry, and when did he leave for Fulton Co IL? Also listed in the 1830 census, but at Smithtown, Suffolk Co NY is a Gideon Mills b. 1788, he died 9-19-1834 (tombstone erroneous engraved as 1854), Will 6-16-1834, Will proved 10-30-1834, codicil to Will 9-16-1834, he married Mary Akerly, d/o John Ackerly and Deborah Smith, d/o Simeon Smith and Hannah Smith. Gideon Mills b. 1788 had sons named Selah A., Mills and Charles Alonzo Mills. Gideon Mills b. 1788 , s/o Jonas, s/o Jonas, s/o Timothy, s/o Jonathan, s/o George. This man is not my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY, and from the research of Ned Smith, S. Hotchkiss, and others, can see no relationship between my Gideon Mills and the various Mills families of Suffolk Co NY. Therefor I am not trying to connect my ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY to Suffolk Co NY area. My ancestor Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY arrived sometime prior or about 1836 in Fulton Co IL, on the 1860 census all listed at Fulton Co IL are the following Mills names, who I believe are related: 1. Gideon Mills (b. 1798 NY) living at Deerfield, Fulton Co IL (my ancestor) 2. Alonzo Mills (b. 1810 NY) living at Banner, Fulton Co IL 3. Ira Mills (b. 1809 ) living at Banner, Fulton Co IL 4. William H. Mills (b. 1827 ) living at Canton, Fulton Co IL (my ancestor, s/o Gideon) Ira Mills apparently never married, he had built a one story log cabin in a landing area on Copperas Creek, Fulton Co IL, this area became known later as Banner. Ira lived next door to Alonzo Mills, Alonzo was married with many kids, but Ira is always listed alone in his own household, I think he remained a batchelor. He was a deficult man to his neighbors, and was not easy to get along with. In 1853 Ira Mills sued Gideon Mills in Fulton Co Court, for this reason I feel there was a relationship between the 2 men, since relatives often have grievances between them. It is stated in the History books of Fulton Co, that my ancestor Gideon Mills first lived at Copperas Creek, before moving to Deerfield, so this would put Gideon Mills, Alonzo Mills, and Ira Mills all at the same spot on Copperas Creek together. I think they may be brothers, but without any proof. Let me now list the names of the children of Gideon Mills and Alonzo Mills, incase this may shed light on this discussion: Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY first married an unknown woman and had a son William H. Mills b. about 1827 in an unknown location, he then moved to Fulton Co IL as of 1836 and remarried to a widow named Emeline Bishop, d/o Ira Bishop b. 1799 CT. The children of Gideon Mills and Emeline Bishop were: David 1841 IL, Nelson 1843 IL, Ann 1844 IL, Sarah 1848 IL, Mary 1850 IL, Francis C. 1854 IL. Alonzo Mills b. 1810 NY, married Sarah (unknown last name) b. 1828, the names of their children are: David b. 1849 NY, Isaac b. 1853 NY, Marcus b. 1855 MO, Ellmore b. 1839MO, Franklin b. 1854 NY. (this Sarah must be a second wife). William H. Mills b. about 1827, s/o Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY, married Rosilla Douglas Simmons, d/o Lebbeus, s/o Lebbeus Simmons who died at Waldo, Maine, who was a Rev War Vet from Mass, married to Mary Douglas, d/o John. William H. Mills and Rosilla had the following children: George b. 1851 IL; Charles b. 1855 IL, John Oscar b. 1853 IL, Lebbeus Gideon b. 1860 Il, Estella Mae b. 1865 Il, Ellen b. 1862 IL. Edward b. about 1855 IL. Please hlep me to identify who is Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY. All help is very welcome and appreciated, and thanks to all the many researchers who have helped me to prepare this report. Best regards, Lilly Martin, d/o Emily, d/o Charles, s/o Pearl Daphne Mills b. 1880, d/o John Oscar Mills b. 1853, s/o William H. Mills b. about 1827, s/o Gideon Mills b. 1798 NY.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1141.2 Message Board Post: Here is Preserved Field's Family Info as I've collected so far. What is your source for the marriage date? Family Group Record for Preserved Field ================================================================================ Husband: Preserved Field(1) ================================================================================ Born: Baptized: Died: 14 Aug 1816(1) Buried: Marriage: Place: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Events -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. He resided in Southold, Suffolk Co., NY in 1800.(2) His household consisted of one boy under 10years old, one boy 10-16, one man 26-45, two girls under 10, ine woman 16-16 and one woman 26-45. ================================================================================ Wife: Naomi Overton(1) ================================================================================ Born: 17 Dec 1765 - Southold, Suffolk Co., NY(1) Baptized: Died: 20 Jun 1849(1) Buried: ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 M Joel G. Field(1, 3, 4, 5) Born: 5 Dec 1805(1, 5) Baptized: Died: Buried: Spouse: Abigail Goldsmith (1805- )(1, 3, 4, 5) Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Leonard Field(1) Born: 1802 - Long Island, NY(1) Baptized: Died: Buried: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ General Notes (Husband) ================================================================================ Field Genealogy: Private;June 3 1780; town of Wethersfield; sandy hair and eyes;by trade tailor;5'5" in stature; dark complexion; discharged for Wm. Morrison, april 6,1779; Col. Sheldon's light dragoons, 1777-83, 4th troop Last Modified: 12 Mar 2004 ================================================================================ Source Citations ================================================================================ 1. Barbara Tomko <geniekid39@yahoo.com>, Field/Wood/Cook family (Ancestry.com http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I89150316). Repository: Ancestry.com, Call Number:http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I8915031 6. 2. 1800 U.S. Census, NY Suffolk Southold Roll:M32_27, Page:25, Image:144. 3. Frost, Josephine C., Ancestors of James Wickham and his wife Cora Prudence Billard (Brooklyn, N.Y.: unknown, 1935, 207 pgs.), p. 177. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 4. Ibid, p. 177. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 5. Barbara Tomko <geniekid39@yahoo.com>, Field/Wood/Cook family (Ancestry.com http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I89150316). Repository: Ancestry.com, Call Number:http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I8915031 6.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1141.1 Message Board Post: Here is some info I picked up in my research on Goldsmiths from Suffolk Co, NY. Not my direct line but cousins I guess: Family Group Record for Joel G. Field ================================================================================ Husband: Joel G. Field(1, 2, 3, 4) ================================================================================ Born: 5 Dec 1805(3, 4) Baptized: Died: Buried: Father: Preserved Field ( -1816)(3) Mother: Naomi Overton (1765-1849)(3) Marriage: Place: ================================================================================ Wife: Abigail Goldsmith(1, 2, 3, 4) ================================================================================ Born: 9 Apr 1805(3, 4) Baptized: Died: Buried: Father: Isaac Goldsmith (1776-1848)(5, 6, 7, 8) Mother: Prudence Terry (1786-1857)(5, 6, 9, 10) ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 F Celia Field(1, 2) Born: Baptized: Died: Buried: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 F Martha Field(1, 2) Born: Baptized: Died: Buried: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 F Emily Field(1, 2) Born: Baptized: Died: Buried: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 F Lydia W. Field(1, 2, 11) Born: 1845 - NY(12) Baptized: Died: 20 Jan 1892 - Cutchogue, Southold, Suffolk Co., NY(3, 4) Buried: Spouse: Henry Kirkland Wood (1845- )(11) Marr. Date: 26 Aug 1862(3) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Events -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. She has also been reported to have been born 7 Jul 1843 in Southold, Suffolk Co., NY.(3) 2. Cause of Death: la grippe (pneumonia), 1892, Cutchogue, Southold, Suffolk Co., NY.(3) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ General Notes for Child Lydia W. Field ================================================================================ in the 1880 census: Census Place: Cutchogue, Suffolk, New York Source: FHL Film 1254935 National Archives Film T9-0935 Page 568B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry K. WOOD Self M M W 35 NY Occ: Fisherman Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Lydia WOOD Wife F M W 35 NY Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Jennie WOOD Dau F S W 14 NY Occ: At Home Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Charles WOOD Son M S W 12 NY Occ: At Home Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Emma WOOD Dau F S W 9 NY Occ: At Home Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Hattie WOOD Dau F S W 7 NY Occ: At Home Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Frank WOOD Son M S W 2 NY Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Last Modified: 22 Dec 2005 ================================================================================ Source Citations ================================================================================ 1. Frost, Josephine C., Ancestors of James Wickham and his wife Cora Prudence Billard (Brooklyn, N.Y.: unknown, 1935, 207 pgs.), p. 177. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 2. Ibid, p. 177. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 3. Barbara Tomko <geniekid39@yahoo.com>, Field/Wood/Cook family (Ancestry.com http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I89150316). Repository: Ancestry.com, Call Number:http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I8915031 6. 4. Barbara Tomko <geniekid39@yahoo.com>, Field/Wood/Cook family (Ancestry.com http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I89150316). Repository: Ancestry.com, Call Number:http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1879081&id=I8915031 6. 5. Salmon, William,The Salmon Records : a private register of marriages and deaths of the residents of the town of Southold, Suffolk County, N.Y., and of persons more or less closely associated with that place : 1696-1811,(New York: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 1918, 115 pgs. also republished FTM CD#173) p. 112. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 6. Salmon, William,The Salmon Records : a private register of marriages and deaths of the residents of the town of Southold, Suffolk County, N.Y., and of persons more or less closely associated with that place : 1696-1811,(New York: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 1918, 115 pgs. also republished FTM CD#173) p. 112. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 7. Frost, Josephine C., Ancestors of James Wickham and his wife Cora Prudence Billard (Brooklyn, N.Y.: unknown, 1935, 207 pgs.), p. 19. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 8. Ibid, p. 19. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 9. Ibid, p. 174. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 10. Ibid, p. 174. Repository: HeritageQuest Online. 11. Rootsweb, Suffolk Message Board message from Barbara Tomko 11 Dec 2001. 12. 1880 U.S. Census, Cutchogue, Suffolk, New York, FHL Film 1254935 National Archives Film T9-0935 Page 568B.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> To: "Jason Ashley" <jasona@optonline.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [NYSUF] Why Did So Many Suffolk Families Migrate to Orange? > Thanks, Jason. > I appreciate your time on this. Another interesting connection;I've > suspected that my Phebe had a connection to King family to. Her grandson, > Henry Eaton was living with a King family after orphaned and before he was > 21yr old in Steuben County NY(1850). I'll keep the data you've sent and > study it more. I'll let you know if I find a connection. Thanks again. > Eileen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Ashley" <jasona@optonline.net> > To: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: [NYSUF] Why Did So Many Suffolk Families Migrate to Orange? > > >> Hi Eileen, >> >> My Tuthill line starts with Henry Tuthill, b. 07/16/1635 in England, >> settled at New Haven,CT in 1638, then on to Southold in 1640. He died >> 10/12/1717 in Southold. Married Deliverance King. Children are: >> Elizabeth, Henry, Hannah, Abigail, Daniel, Nathaniel, and >> >> John Tuthill, aka "Chalker John". He served as Justice of the Peace and >> was a Commissioner to lay out Kings Highway, the first public road from >> Brooklyn to East Hampton. He was a member of the Provincial Assembly of >> New York and also served as a Sheriff. He was born 02/14/1658 m. >> Mehitable Wells in 1683 and he died 11/02/1754. Children are: >> >> John, James, Joshua, Dorothy, Daniel, Hannah, and >> >> Freegift Tuthill, b. 08/08/1698. married Abigail Goldsmith 06/1727. They >> moved to Goshen, Orange, NY from Southold, Suffok, NY. Died 09/1765 in >> Goshen, Orange, NY. Their Children are Nathaniel, Abigail, Joshua, and >> Freegift Jr. >> >> Nathaniel Tuthill b. 01/17/1730 in Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY. m. Margaret >> Herod. He died in Blooming Grove, Orange, NY 09/16/1803. Children were >> Benjamin, Mary, Nathaniel, and John. >> >> I'm a descendent of Mary and her husband, Daniel Bailey. >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> Jason >> >> Eileen wrote: >> >>> Thanks, take your time....been working on this since the 1960's, what's >>> a few more days. Eileen >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Ashley" <jasona@optonline.net> >>> To: "Eileen" <frngdwlr@mhtc.net> >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:43 PM >>> Subject: Re: [NYSUF] Why Did So Many Suffolk Families Migrate to Orange? >>> >>> >>>> Eileen, >>>> >>>> Sorry to reply so late, I will look into it this weekend when I'm not >>>> so pressed for time. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Eileen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Great question! My Eaton ancestor did likewise, but at a later year >>>>> ca. 1810 and from Mt Sinai. He apparently only stayed at Wallkill, >>>>> Orange Co. about 10 yrs and then on to Tompkins County. I do not >>>>> know the maiden name of his wife, Phebe(1775/85-1823) and found a >>>>> closeness between their families and the Tuthills. Are you aware of >>>>> any connections with your ancestors? Thank you. Eileen >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jasona@optonline.net> >>>>> To: <NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:23 AM >>>>> Subject: [NYSUF] Why Did So Many Suffolk Families Migrate to Orange? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Surnames: WATKINS BOOTH ACKERLY HORTON CONKLIN HAWKINS HARLOW >>>>>> SATTERLY GOLDSMITH TUTHILL >>>>>> Classification: Query >>>>>> >>>>>> Message Board URL: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/1131 >>>>>> >>>>>> Message Board Post: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is quite interesting and I don't have an answer so I'm >>>>>> wondering. Some names of my ancestors who migrated from the Southold >>>>>> area to Orange county (NY) are: >>>>>> >>>>>> Watkins, Booth, Ackerly, Horton, Conklin, Hawkins, Harlow, Satterly, >>>>>> Goldsmith, and Tuthill. >>>>>> >>>>>> All of the migrations appear to happen from the 1730s through to the >>>>>> early 1770s then stopped abruptly just before the Revolution. About >>>>>> the only ancestors who stayed (relatively) put were the Gardiners. I >>>>>> might also suggest that if you're researching any of these families >>>>>> and have reached a dead-end to check the Orange county New York >>>>>> records. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why they would leave the Southold area? One note I have regarding >>>>>> Timothy Hawkins (b. aft. 1712) says, "In 1772 went to New York >>>>>> Samuel Walker, Jacob and Isaac Slaughter, Moses and Timothy >>>>>> Hawkins." By, "New York," the note refers to Orange county. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this a case of younger sons who might not ordinarily inherit much >>>>>> striking off on their own? Could it be the change of government from >>>>>> Connecticut to New York? I don't think it was anything having to do >>>>>> with revolutionary sympathies as both Suffolk and Orange were, >>>>>> largely, patriot in leaning. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any guesses? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== NYSUFFOL Mailing List ==== >>>>>> The "Live librarian" is an amazing program.The Nortport address is >>>>>> www.nenpl.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================== >>>>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in >>>>>> the >>>>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>>>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >