I have a copy of the document showing that my great-grandfather became a citizen, but I've heard that I might be able to requests copies of the document he needed to fill-out in order to apply for citizenship? If so, can someone tell me how to obtain copies of those documents?

Forwarded.....Uncle The German Genealogy Group will hold its next monthly meeting on Thursday, April 3rd at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Family History Center, 160 Washington Avenue, Plainview, New York. Rev. Thomas Taylor will give a presentation, "Genogram: An Introduction to Family Systems. A "First Timers" orientation and a basic "How To" session will be held at 7 PM and the regular meeting will start at 7:30. Among the many benefits of membership are a newsletter published ten times a year, a database of surnames, a translation service, a lending library, interesting guest speakers at the meetings, mentoring and a start up kit of helpful information. We welcome all who are interested in researching their Germanic origins. No fee for guests. Visit our web site at http://www.GermanGenealogyGroup.com/ For additional information call: Don at 631 265-0621 or Ruth at 718 460-4240

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/677 Message Board Post: I am seeking information on the family of William and Katherine Calder. The 1930 census shows them residing in Bayshore, and that they had at least 2 children, William (age 26) and Elizabeth (age 23). William Jr. apparently died in Bayshore in March / 1965. I would like to obtain any obituaries or headstone inscriptions that relate to any of the members of this family. Thank you! John B. Calder Waterloo, Ontario

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/676.1.3 Message Board Post: On 2/25/03 (5:32:26 AM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Sarah Cassi ([email protected]) asked, "the census says: Please choose a Township: • Amityville • Fishers Island • Shoreham Village • Babylon • Huntington Township • Smithtown • Babylon Town • Islip Town • Southampton Township • Bellport Village • Medford • Southold Town • Brookhaven Town • Patchogue Village • Wyandanch • Deer Park • Riverhead • East Hampton Town • Shelter Island Town which one would have brentwood?" As I posted a bit earlier today, the Hamlet of Brentwood is in the Town of Islip, but there are places with a "Brentwood, NY" mailing address also in the Town of Huntington (parts of the Hamlet of Dix Hills in the Town of Huntington are in the service area of the Brentwood, NY postal zone and hence even though these places are not in Brentwood, these places would have a Brentwood, NY mailing address. Now, looking at the "township' choices. First, there are no townships in New York State. But, because the Census has a blank space labeled 'township', towns are mislabeled 'townships'. Second, the above list is a mish-mash of different types of communities, as: • Amityville is a village in the Town of Babylon • Babylon is a village in the Town of Babylon • Babylon Town is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County. • Bellport Village is a village in the Town of Brookhaven • Brookhaven Town is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Deer Park is a hamlet in the Town of Babylon • East Hampton Town is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Fishers Island is an island hamlet in the Town of Southold • Shoreham Village is a village in the Town of Brookhaven • Huntington Township (sic) is on of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Smithtown is on e of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Islip Town is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Medford is a hamlet in the Town of Brookhaven • Patchogue Village is a village in the Town of Brookhaven • Riverhead is one of 10 towns in Suffolk County • Shelter Island Town is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Southampton Township (sic) is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Southold Town is one of the 10 towns in Suffolk County • Wyandanch is a hamlet in the Town of Babylon

The Italian Genealogy Group will have its next meeting at 10:30 AM on Saturday, March 8th at the Bethpage Public Library (Powell Ave, Bethpage, Long Island, NY). Our speaker, Ms Toni Raptis will inform us about the "Holdings of the Suffolk County Library System" which will help in our genealogical research. Prior to the meeting (9:30) Francesca DeLuca will give Italian lessons and Joanne Heffernan will conduct a "Beginning Genealogy" workshop. Visitors are welcome. We also invite all to our Annual Seminar to be held at Molloy College (Rockville Centre, Long Island) on Saturday, March 22. Our keynote speaker is noted author and genealogy professor, John Colletta. To find out more about our seminar and our group, visit our website www.italiangen.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/676.1.2 Message Board Post: Brentwood is in the Township of Islip.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/676.2 Message Board Post: On 2/24/03 (9:52:59 PM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Sarah Cassi ([email protected]) asked, "long island continues to frustrate me with its bizarre divisions and sub-divisions. i know there are townships, villages, hamlets, etc. what i need to know is if i want to look at st. joseph convent in brentwood in the 1920 census, where will i look?" Brentwood is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwestern section of the Town of Islip, Suffolk County, along the border with the Towns of Smithtown, Huntington and Babylon. There are 4 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Brentwood in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by Hamlets of Commack and Hauppauge in the Town of Smithtown (the Islip/Smithtown town line); on the east by the Hamlets of Central Islip and Islip; on the south by the Hamlets of Islip, North Bay Shore and Baywood; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Deer Park in the Town of Babylon (the Islip/Babylon town line) and the Hamlet of Dix Hills in the Town of Huntington (the Islip/Huntington town line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Brentwood has a different border than does the "Brentwood, NY" postal zone. Hence, places, such as part of the Hamlet of Six Hills in the Town of Huntington, can have a "Brentwood, NY" mailing address and not be in Brentwood and places in Brentwood may have other than a "Brentwood, NY" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Brentwood in the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/676.1 Message Board Post: the census says: Please choose a Township: • Amityville • Fishers Island • Shoreham Village • Babylon • Huntington Township • Smithtown • Babylon Town • Islip Town • Southampton Township • Bellport Village • Medford • Southold Town • Brookhaven Town • Patchogue Village • Wyandanch • Deer Park • Riverhead • East Hampton Town • Shelter Island Town which one would have brentwood?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/676 Message Board Post: long island continues to frustrate me with its bizarre divisions and sub-divisions. i know there are townships, villages, hamlets, etc. what i need to know is if i want to look at st. joseph convent in brentwood in the 1920 census, where will i look?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/675 Message Board Post: The Naturalizations for the Southern District are complete and can be accessed at the IGG site at: http://www.italiangen.org/default.stm This was the largest project ever completed by volunteers that is accessible for free on the web. The Bronx County Clerk's Office heard about what the group has accomplished and went to our leader, John Martino, with another project. We are now indexing the Naturalizations from the Bronx County Clerks Office from 1914 on up and we need more volunteers who can type the info into any kind of spreadsheet they have. Local people are needed and the work can be done at home. If you would like to join in, email me at [email protected] and I will put you in touch with John Martino. Anytime is a good time to give a little back. Tony

I hope to locate my great-grandfather's census record in the 1900 & 1910 census, but it looks like I first need to narrow it down to a particular ED. They lived in East Patchogue on Hedges Road... Does anyone know what ED this might be? Thanks In Advance! Debbie > Content-Type: text/plain > > NYSUFFOL-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 35 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [NYSUF] Wrecked headstones to be r [[email protected]] > #2 [NYSUF] Pilgrim State Hospital [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > SUFFOLK CO. NYGENWEB: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysuffol/ > RESOURCE PAGE: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/NY/Suffolk > QUERIES: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Suffolk > GENFORUM: http://genforum.genealogy.com/ny/suffolk/ > MAILING LIST PAGE: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/suffolk.html > LIST ARCHIVES: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > CO. ARCHIVES: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ny/suffolk/suffolk.htm > > Please contact me at [email protected] with any comments, > questions or problems you may have regarding your membership. > Fred V Provoncha, Manager, SUFFOLK COUNTY Mailing List > > > ______________________________> X-Message: #1 > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:41:46 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYSUF] Wrecked headstones to be restored > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Rooters & Rootsers, > > Today's (Friday, February 21) NEWSDAY has an article about 'discarded' > headstones of the Mulford family, descendents of the founder of Smithtown, > from a cemetery somewhere in the Town of Smithtown (it's unclear from the > story exactly where the cemetery is located). > > The article can be found at (copy and paste entire URL): > > <http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-lihead213140949feb21,0,3520595.st > > ory?coll=ny%2Dnews%2Dprint> > > Those who can not access the article can eMail me and I'll forward an eMail > copy to them. > > Walter Greenspan > ______________________________> X-Message: #2 > Date: 22 Feb 2003 07:49:23 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYSUF] Pilgrim State Hospital > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Bartlett, Baxter > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/674 > > Message Board Post: > > My mother-in-law Olga Baxter Bartlett Wise, was employed at Pilgrim State > Hospital in the late 1930's. Her first husband, Clifford Bartlett was killed in > a truck-train accident September 29, 1939. > Photos of her during this period show that she might have been pregnant. When > questioned, she always said that she had "lost" one child before she married my > husband's father. Because, her husband was killed, we believe she may have > given the child, up for adoption. We know that she and her husband had several > good friends in the area. Hoping that we can find this half-sister or brother. > This child would have been born late 1939 earl 1940.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bartlett, Baxter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/674 Message Board Post: My mother-in-law Olga Baxter Bartlett Wise, was employed at Pilgrim State Hospital in the late 1930's. Her first husband, Clifford Bartlett was killed in a truck-train accident September 29, 1939. Photos of her during this period show that she might have been pregnant. When questioned, she always said that she had "lost" one child before she married my husband's father. Because, her husband was killed, we believe she may have given the child, up for adoption. We know that she and her husband had several good friends in the area. Hoping that we can find this half-sister or brother. This child would have been born late 1939 earl 1940.

Rooters & Rootsers, Today's (Friday, February 21) NEWSDAY has an article about 'discarded' headstones of the Mulford family, descendents of the founder of Smithtown, from a cemetery somewhere in the Town of Smithtown (it's unclear from the story exactly where the cemetery is located). The article can be found at (copy and paste entire URL): <http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-lihead213140949feb21,0,3520595.st ory?coll=ny%2Dnews%2Dprint> Those who can not access the article can eMail me and I'll forward an eMail copy to them. Walter Greenspan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pilkington Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/673.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Ned, thanks for the information. Another kind reply to a confusing question.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/673.1.2 Message Board Post: I think they may have meant strangulation of the intestine, by a portion protruding through the hernia and having its circulation cut off. If strangulation of the respiratory system was involved the victim probably wouldn't have survived long enough for toxemia to set in, and the hernia wouldn't have been listed as a secondary cause. Either the original rupture or the protrusion of the intestine may have resulted from a seizure. Ned Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/673.1.1.1 Message Board Post: If it was a rural area, or the parents elderly, it s likely he helped run the family home, (ie: helped father farm, etc...)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pilkington Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/673.1.1 Message Board Post: Jeff, thanks for your insightful diagnosis on Reuben Pilkington's death certificate. It makes sense to me now. It's funny, you think all you need is a death or birth certificate to answer the question - who were they. Then when it comes, it somehow doesn't seem like enough. I wondered if he was able to work, hold down a job, marry, etc. Then I wondered also what the circumstances were around his admittance into Brunswick, Suffolk Co., since there seems to be information indicated as "unknown" for his parents, whom he surely must have known (he lived with his mother up until at least 1880 (census records) and he was 28 years old. Any ideas on that? Were they so dysfunctional they were unable to hold work? It indicates that he was "single," but I'm wondering if that's necessarily so. Anyway, thanks again for your input. I will pass it along to my family. Sheila

Debbie, There is a Main Street Bakery of Patchogue in the database of business records, listed as being filed Nov. 11, 1947. If you contact the Business Certificates department of the County Clerk's office, they will be able to send a copy to you. The information and the database can be accessed at the Clerk's web page at http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/clerk You should search under the word "bakery" since the name Zenker, gets no results. Hope this is helpful, Sharon A. Pullen, C.A. Archivist Office of the County Clerk Historic Documents Library 310 Center Drive Riverhead, NY 11901-3392 Phone: 631-852-2015 Email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYSUF] Patchogue's Main Street Bakery It's said that my great-grandfather Henry Zenker owned a bakery on Main Street in Patchogue -- near or possibly across from Sweezey's. I'd like to learn more about this little tidbit. I'd like to determine if he was the owner and (if so) perhaps obtain a picture of the area. I'm not exactly sure what time period to focus on -- probablyas early as the 1920's into the 1930's... though I think with the Depression the family moved back to the City. Perhaps there is a City Directory for Patchogue? Other ideas? THANKS IN ADVANCE! Debbie ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/673.1 Message Board Post: >>>>>>>>>Just received a death certificate on relative who died in 1907. It describes, briefly, that he died of "exhaustion from shock and toxemia in strangulation; secondary cause of death was left inguinal hernia and epilepsy."<<<<<<<<<< Sounds like he died from a Grand Mal seizure, and the secondary causes were the actual cause ofdeath in the long run, they list the IMMRDIATE causes as primary, and long term illnesses as contributory. Sounds as if he drowned or choked in the middle of a seizure. The hernia can and probably was caused by the seizures, which in those days they had NO treatment for.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pilkington Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/673 Message Board Post: Just received a death certificate on relative who died in 1907. It describes, briefly, that he died of "exhaustion from shock and toxemia in strangulation; secondary cause of death was left inguinal hernia and epilepsy." This means that during the 7 months of his stay at Brunswick House (Jan - July), his treatment was clearly not adequate to save his life. Can anyone tell me if (1) they had a treatment for inguinal hernia? (2) Did they have the knowledge in 1907 to have performed some surgical procedure to repair the leakage? and (3) why if he was there for 7 months, did he die of what must have been a very painful ailment anyway? Then there's the issue of epilepsy. Can that have really contributed to his problem? PS: Brunswick House in 1907 was a facility that treated epileptics only. I'd appreciate any information anyone can offer to shed some light on what happened to Reuben Pilkington. In calling Brunswick, they informed me the medical records for him were "destroyed" an! d are done so after 7 years. Can that be true? Isn't there some kind of archive? Would the treating physician have those records? Okay, okay, I'll shut up now. Sheila