This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dipple/Dippel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/107.214.1 Message Board Post: Dee, I read your messages with interest. I have (we think he died here don't know yet) my great grandfather, Jacob John Dippel/Dipple lived on eckford street in brooklyn until the late 1920's and divorced from my great grandmother. How did you manage to get a death certificate? I'm still looking for that one.. Newspapers.. did you go to rootsweb, and then type in your location and see what you get. Try google. com and type in newspapers, suffolk, new york and see what happens.. I think I'm going to wind up trying to find this guy on the Kings Park 1930 census records. I'll have a long search.. thanks karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/717 Message Board Post: Looking to contact Thatner family, with cousins Zajac and Fuchs. I had been contacted a year ago so I know they're out there but Bill Thatner hasn't written back with more info for family tree. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Altz, Downs, Petrocelli, Rosstien Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/707.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Bill, Thank you for trying to locate Amos Altz in the 1880 census. I agree with you that none of the Altz families you found are a good match. I suspect that the family is there but hidden behind a misspelled or mistranscribed name. I once found a Rosstien ancestor under the name of Lostien! Thanks again. Teri

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/707.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Teri, I was not able to locate Amos in the 1880 census. The only Altz family in the area at the time was in Jersey City, Hudson County NJ and they had no Amos in the family. They did have a two year old named John, born in NJ and both parents Prussia (Germany), so we have three conflicts: the name, the birthplace and the birthplace of the father. I think there were only three other Altz families in the Country at the time, one in Massachusetts, one in Michigan and one in Illinois, none of whom had a son in the right age bracket. Bill St. George

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/716 Message Board Post: I'm looking for the parents or sibilings of Benjamin Tuttle born Jan 21, 1800 and left an orphan on Long Island. He stayed on L I until manhood, then moved to Ontario County, NY. He was one of nine children. Can anyone shed some light on this?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/71.1 Message Board Post: Lisa, I tried to contact you at your aol address but it bounced. Please contact me privately. Thanks. Kearney Bothwell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cutchoque Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/715 Message Board Post: W. Greenspan-sent response to yours under Cutchoque-sorry it took so long

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/714.1 Message Board Post: On 5/24/03 (7:38:31 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], ????? ([email protected]) asked, "I have found my grandfather's family in the 1900 census - the name is Meaney, Edward and Mary, and four children. The top of the page just lists it as the Town of Islip. There is no other identification as to town or address, etc. At least not that I can see. Does anyone know, or know where I can look to find the towns that comprised the Town of Islip in 1900? I have a copy of my ggrandfather's naturalization papers that are dated 1894 - at that time he said he resided in East Patchogue. Any help is appreciated." First, East Patchogue is a hamlet in the southwestern part of the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County, 2 communities to the east of the Islip/Brookhaven town line. Second, there are no 'towns' in the Town of Islip. In New York State, towns are sub-divided into villages (incorporated municipalities) and hamlets (unincorporated areas). Currently, there are 4 villages and 22 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) These 26 communities are (if a village, year of incorporation): Bayport Bay Shore Baywood Bohemia Brentwood Brightwaters (1916) Central Islip East Islip Fire Island (part) Great River Hauppauge (part) Holbrook (part) Holtsville (part) Islandia (1985) Islip Islip Terrace North Bay Shore North Great River Oakdale Ocean Beach (1921) Ronkonkoma Saltaire (1917) Sayville West Bay Shore West Islip West Sayville part = indicates a village or hamlet that straddles town boundaries. As none of the villages were in existence circa 1900, and assuming that these villages were formed from part of a still-existing hamlet, then there would've been 22 communities -- all hamlets -- in the Town of Islip circa 1900. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Town of Islip and all the villages and hamlets within the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALTZ, DOWNS, PETROCELLI Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/707.2.1 Message Board Post: Bill, Thank you very much for all your help. You have done a very thorough job of tracking the Altz family. I have also found the Amos Altz family in 1900 (Manhattan) and 1910 (Brooklyn). I have not yet found Amos Altz' parents. I will be interested to hear if you find them. I believe that Leroy's given name was actually Amos; I have written to NYC for his birth record to verify this. I will try to find Jean's obituary in a Smithtown paper so that I can learn the names of her next-of-kin at the time of her death. I understand that Jean's daughter may not have been allowed to stay in contact with her Downs grandparents after her mother's death. I would like very much to find her and let her know more about her mother's family history. Thanks again. Teri

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/707.2 Message Board Post: Teri, I found this family on the 1930 census: Village of Ridgewood, Bergen County NJ #446 Alpine Terrace: Leroy V. Altz, age 28, married at 19, born NY, both parents NY Mary D. wife, age 28, married at 19, born NY, father Irish Free State, mother NY Leroy V. Jr. son, age 7, born NY Jean M. daughter, age 3 years, 9 months [census visit was April 8, 1930], born NY Martin J. Downs, father-in-law, age 57, married at 26, born Irish Free State, both parents Irish Free State Mary C. Downs, mother-in-law, age 55, married at 24, born NY, both parents, Irish Free State Leroy was a stockbroker. Martin J. immigrated in 1886 and was a naturalized citizen. Going back to the 1920 census, we find Martin Downs in Brooklyn, NY living at #1610 10th Avenue: Martin J. Downs, age 47, born Ireland, both parents Ireland Mary C, wife, age 45, born NY, both parents Ireland Esther C. daughter, age 20, born NY Mary E. daughter, age 19, born NY William M. son, age 17, born NY Martin was a City Detective. Also in 1920 in Brooklyn, living at #507 Park Place: Amos Altz, age 41, born NY, father U.S. mother Germany Jane, wife, age 39, born Ny, both parents NY Leroy, son, age 19, born NY Mildred, daughter, age 17, born NY I'm goind to post this much now and look in the 1880 for Amos' parents and will let you know if I find them. Hope this helps fill in some blanks. Bill St. George

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/714 Message Board Post: I have found my grandfather's family in the 1900 census - the name is Meaney, Edward and Mary, and four children. The top of the page just lists it as the Town of Islip. There is no other identification as to town or address, etc. At least not that I can see. Does anyone know, or know where I can look to find the towns that comprised the Town of Islip in 1900? I have a copy of my ggrandfather's naturalization papers that are dated 1894 - at that time he said he resided in East Patchogue. Any help is appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/275.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'll get after him to try again. The John Henry you are referring to is my great great great grandfather.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/708.3.1 Message Board Post: Hello. Roberta Lader again, logged in under my husband's account this time. Here is information I promised from Flanders Cemetery: Benjamin: Phineas d. 25 April 1849 42y 5m 23d James H., s. of Phineas and Abigail, d. 14 Oct 1864 21y Deacon Zarariah {sic) d. 7 Jan 1861 77y 5 m Mary W., w. Dea. Zarariah Benjamin d. 9 Sep 1877 86y 4m Alanson, s Zarariah and Mary d 21 Mar 1822 1y Fanning: James 2nd b. 22 Mar. 1719 d. 16 Sep 1805 Deborah, w. James 2nd d. 2 June 1778 55y Willie d. 3 Oct 1862 3d. Carrie d. 13 Sep 13, 1868 4y Chanincy F. d. 6 Apr 1862 4y Rev. Nathaniel d. 3 Mar 1866 88y 6m 23 d Abigal w Rev. Nathaniel d 14 Feb 1850 64 y Rosalie d 9 Jan 1850 2m Samuel s Nathaniel & Abigal d 23 Mar 1815 26y Nancy d Nathaniel & Abigal d 12 Apr 1823 9y Betsy d Nathaniel & Abigal d 16 Mar 185114y9m Goodale Infant son Howard and Belle G. Josiah S. s of Josiah and Martha d 4 Apr 1857 24y 7m 10d Josiah d 11 Oct 1839 51y2m7d Martha d 8 Aug 1856 65y3m22d Joseph d 19 Aug 1856 27y9m17d Ellen W. w of Joseph d. 1 Oct 1859 27y9m17d Huldah w. of Joseph d. 27 Mar 1876 88y5m27d Joseph d.12 June 1876 91y7m25d Anna d. Josiah and Hannah d. 4 Dec 1822 29y Harriet d. Josiah and Hannah d. 27 Apr 1807 11y Hannah, wife of Josiah d.4 Dec. 1816 52y Josiah d. Oct 1822 68y Jonathan s. of Daniel & Harriet d 10 Sept 1826 8y Harriet Fordham, w of David d 2 Oct 1851 59y1m David d 21 Feb 1861 80y Grover d 17 Jun 1887 66y8m9d Hannah S. w of Grover d 7 Jun 1893 60y11m4d Fanny w of Grover b 25 Oct 1825 m 6 Jan 1846 d 6 Jan 1854 Oscar b 4 Oct 1822 d 15 Aug 1883 Betsy M. w of Oscar b 25 Dec 1835 d 24 Mar 1908 Ella B. d of Oscar & Betsy b 26 Feb 1856 d 12 Sep 1863 Georgial (sic) d of Oscar & Betsy b 29 Aug 1860 d 4 Sep 1863 Maria K. d Oscar & Betsy b 19 Mar 1862 d 1 Sep 1868 George b 7 Jun 1868 50y3m16d Smith Samuel d 29 Nov 1839 22y Phebe w of Samuel 20 Sep 1879 75y Capt. Charles d9 Apr 1835 72y Dorcus w of Charles d 22 Mar 1857 96y >From old burial plot under cedar hedge back of gas station in Flanders which was moved to Flanders Cemetery Benjamin Zaghariah (sic) Capt. b 20 Mar 1817 d 4 Mar 1898 Elizabeth L. Rogers w of Zaghariah b 23 Dec 1819 d 2 Feb 1910 William E. b 1848 d 1927 Zaghariah s of Alanson and Phebe d 4 Sept 1863 1y9m1d Three infants of Capt. James and Joanna Capt. James b. 18 Nov 1810 d 11 Sep 1887 Joanna Fanning w of Capt. James b. 27 May 1825 d. 8 Apr 1905 Annie E. b. 23 Mar 1847 d. 8 May 1923 Alanson b 25 Dec 1823 d 28 Dcc 1897 Phebe Elizabeth b 4 Aug 1838 d 5 Feb 1920 Fanning Mary w of Peter d 12 May 1839 55y Peter d 16 Jan 1820 36y John d Nov 1846 90y Mary w of John d 7 Jan 1822 61y John d 26 Mar 1862 77y7m8d Polly w of John d 13 Jan 1861 76y3m Hannah w of John d 9 Mar 1823 37y Emily A. d of Harvey L. & Mary A. d 11 Aug 1863 4y3m2d Addie W. d of Harvey L. and Mary A. d 19 Jan 1877 10y11m28d Mary A. Tuthill w of Harvey b 23 Jun 1828 d 19 Mar 1910 Harvey L. b 13 June 1822 d 1 Dec 1889 Harvey P. b 25 Apr 1852 d 3 May 1924 Zola M. Goodale, w of Harvey P. b 24 Oct 1858 Cora M. d of Capt Harvey P. & Zola M. d 6 Sep 1882 8m Ada L. d of HP and Zola M. d 1 Mar 1879 11m5d Capt Peter 2. b 2 Apr 1820 d 23 July 1852 Emeline R. w of Capt. Peter also of Lorenzo D. Bellows b 8 Apr 1825 d 29 Jan 1899 This transcription was done in the 1930s. Another transcription from 1950 includes: Benjamin Mary R. w of Capt Lewis Young b 1843 d 1885 Lillie w of Capt Lewis Young b 1856 d 1934 Fanning Sally w of Capt Daniel Hallock d 2 Apr 1909 82y2m Hope this is more helpful to you all. Changed the format.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/708.3 Message Board Post: Hello. Roberta Lader again, logged in under my husband's account this time. Here is information I promised from Flanders Cemetery: Benjamin: Phineas d. 25 April 1849 42y 5m 23d James H., s. of Phineas and Abigail, d. 14 Oct 1864 21y Deacon Zarariah {sic) d. 7 Jan 1861 77y 5 m Mary W., w. Dea. Zarariah Benjamin d. 9 Sep 1877 86y 4m Alanson, s Zarariah and Mary d 21 Mar 1822 1y Fanning: James 2nd b. 22 Mar. 1719 d. 16 Sep 1805 Deborah, w. James 2nd d. 2 June 1778 55y Willie d. 3 Oct 1862 3d. Carrie d. 13 Sep 13, 1868 4y Chanincy F. d. 6 Apr 1862 4y Rev. Nathaniel d. 3 Mar 1866 88y 6m 23 d Abigal w Rev. Nathaniel d 14 Feb 1850 64 y Rosalie d 9 Jan 1850 2m Samuel s Nathaniel & Abigal d 23 Mar 1815 26y Nancy d Nathaniel & Abigal d 12 Apr 1823 9y Betsy d Nathaniel & Abigal d 16 Mar 185114y9m Goodale Infant son Howard and Belle G. Josiah S. s of Josiah and Martha d 4 Apr 1857 24y 7m 10d Josiah d 11 Oct 1839 51y2m7d Martha d 8 Aug 1856 65y3m22d Joseph d 19 Aug 1856 27y9m17d Ellen W. w of Joseph d. 1 Oct 1859 27y9m17d Huldah w. of Joseph d. 27 Mar 1876 88y5m27d Joseph d.12 June 1876 91y7m25d Anna d. Josiah and Hannah d. 4 Dec 1822 29y Harriet d. Josiah and Hannah d. 27 Apr 1807 11y Hannah, wife of Josiah d.4 Dec. 1816 52y Josiah d. Oct 1822 68y Jonathan s. of Daniel & Harriet d 10 Sept 1826 8y Harriet Fordham, w of David d 2 Oct 1851 59y1m David d 21 Feb 1861 80y Grover d 17 Jun 1887 66y8m9d Hannah S. w of Grover d 7 Jun 1893 60y11m4d Fanny w of Grover b 25 Oct 1825 m 6 Jan 1846 d 6 Jan 1854 Oscar b 4 Oct 1822 d 15 Aug 1883 Betsy M. w of Oscar b 25 Dec 1835 d 24 Mar 1908 Ella B. d of Oscar & Betsy b 26 Feb 1856 d 12 Sep 1863 Georgial (sic) d of Oscar & Betsy b 29 Aug 1860 d 4 Sep 1863 Maria K. d Oscar & Betsy b 19 Mar 1862 d 1 Sep 1868 George b 7 Jun 1868 50y3m16d Smith Samuel d 29 Nov 1839 22y Phebe w of Samuel 20 Sep 1879 75y Capt. Charles d9 Apr 1835 72y Dorcus w of Charles d 22 Mar 1857 96y >From old burial plot under cedar hedge back of gas station in Flanders which was moved to Flanders Cemetery Benjamin Zaghariah (sic) Capt. b 20 Mar 1817 d 4 Mar 1898 Elizabeth L. Rogers w of Zaghariah b 23 Dec 1819 d 2 Feb 1910 William E. b 1848 d 1927 Zaghariah s of Alanson and Phebe d 4 Sept 1863 1y9m1d Three infants of Capt. James and Joanna Capt. James b. 18 Nov 1810 d 11 Sep 1887 Joanna Fanning w of Capt. James b. 27 May 1825 d. 8 Apr 1905 Annie E. b. 23 Mar 1847 d. 8 May 1923 Alanson b 25 Dec 1823 d 28 Dcc 1897 Phebe Elizabeth b 4 Aug 1838 d 5 Feb 1920 Fanning Mary w of Peter d 12 May 1839 55y Peter d 16 Jan 1820 36y John d Nov 1846 90y Mary w of John d 7 Jan 1822 61y John d 26 Mar 1862 77y7m8d Polly w of John d 13 Jan 1861 76y3m Hannah w of John d 9 Mar 1823 37y Emily A. d of Harvey L. & Mary A. d 11 Aug 1863 4y3m2d Addie W. d of Harvey L. and Mary A. d 19 Jan 1877 10y11m28d Mary A. Tuthill w of Harvey b 23 Jun 1828 d 19 Mar 1910 Harvey L. b 13 June 1822 d 1 Dec 1889 Harvey P. b 25 Apr 1852 d 3 May 1924 Zola M. Goodale, w of Harvey P. b 24 Oct 1858 Cora M. d of Capt Harvey P. & Zola M. d 6 Sep 1882 8m Ada L. d of HP and Zola M. d 1 Mar 1879 11m5d Capt Peter 2. b 2 Apr 1820 d 23 July 1852 Emeline R. w of Capt. Peter also of Lorenzo D. Bellows b 8 Apr 1825 d 29 Jan 1899 This transcription was done in the 1930s. Another transcription from 1950 includes: Benjamin Mary R. w of Capt Lewis Young b 1843 d 1885 Lillie w of Capt Lewis Young b 1856 d 1934 Fanning Sally w of Capt Daniel Hallock d 2 Apr 1909 82y2m Hope this is helpful to you all.

On 5/21/03 (12:55:37 PM MDT), Ed ([email protected]) asked, "Where can I write to request a death cert. for someone who died in Suffolk (possibly in Blue Point) in March 1970?" Blue Point is a hamlet (an unincorporated community) in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County. I'll explain why this is important a bit later in this eMail. The collection of Vital Records in New York State begin in 1881, and are required to be kept by the city or town, as the case may be, in which the event (birth, death, marriage) occurred and by the state (Albany). Some of the larger villages do maintain these records, but not all villages do as they may voluntarily waive their right to do so and make it a responsibility of the town(s) in which the village is (are) in. If the place where the event occurred is in a village, the Town Clerk will tell you if the village or the town maintains the record. Currently, there are 10 towns in Suffolk County: Huntington Babylon Smithtown Islip Brookhaven Riverhead Southold Southampton Shelter Island East Hampton There are 2 cities (Glen Cove and Long Beach) and 3 towns (Hempstead, North Hempstead and Oyster Bay) in Nassau County. In this regard, please remember that it is very important to know in which city or town (or village) the event took place and the city or town (or village) could be different from the city or town (or village) where the individual may have resided. As I wrote, Blue Point is a hamlet in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County. There are 8 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. Which means you would first want to contact the town clerk for the Town of Brookhaven: Town Clerk Town of Brookhaven 205 South Ocean Avenue Patchogue, NY 11772 Tel: 631/654-7827 Fax: 631/654-7888 fax eMail: [email protected] http://www.brookhaven.org/departments/town_clerk.asp?dept_id=15&page_id=15 I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan

Where can I write to request a death cert. for someone who died in Suffolk (possibly in Blue Point) in March 1970? Thanks for your help, Ed PS - Anyone researching EDWARDS?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Field/Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/686.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank You for all your info-if all goes well our family is going to be part of an NIH study-that is why I am trying to find out as much as possible

To anyone wanting to know...................I sent this after being stuck it what I thought was a terrorist trap, cops everywhere, wondering why? HI, I am a West Islip resident, and was wondering.......last week, we saw a film crew down at the manor and they also were using the Gardner's Park lot for the film crew, we also were behind them one day making their way to Robert Mosses Park. What film were they making, and how much did it cost them to use the old manor? We waited to see if it showed up on any on 12 news, but nothing The following is from the Historical Society: Actually it was in last week's Islip Bulletin and Suffolk County News.  The film was "The Birth" and a wedding reception scene was filmed at Sagtikos Manor starring Nicole Kidman, Lauren Bacall and Anne Heche.  The film company paid $2,000 for the use of Sagtikos Manor.  They only released information to the local paper, they didn't want a big media frenzy on site.   I am a resident, there was many problems purchasing this house....I think that they got away tooooo cheap................it is now in the hands of the Historical Society of Suffolk. thanks to my leg. Angie Carpenter. I think Hollwood could have paid more, you know that Geroge Washington slept there......... Wish I knew more then.....have many articles, but that was before they (Gardiner's) sold. I would like to get on this committee...will try before summer....it's hard, I am a transplant from CA, been here 20 years, and just finding my mother's roots where one of the first settlers here on Long Island. what a summer job! Terre

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/713.2 Message Board Post: 1920 census emily and elsie worked in islip. virginia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/713.1 Message Board Post: On 5/19/03 (1:54:06 PM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Kathryn ([email protected]) asked, "I have been posting queries and writing letters trying to locate anyone (they probably are elderly) who knew of the Hering Family who lived in the Central Islip area in the 1920's. There were children, Margaret, Elsie M., Frank and Fred and I assume they had children. I have been unable to reach anyone who knew this family. Do I need to put Jessica Fletcher or Perry Mason on the case?" You may want to contact the Central Islip Public Library: Central Islip Public Library 33 Hawthorne Avenue Central Islip, NY 11722 Tel: 631/234-9333 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: [email protected] http://www.suffolk.lib.ny.us/libraries/cisp/ The pertinent geography: Central Islip is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the north-central section of the Town of Islip, Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Central Islip in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by Hamlet of Hauppauge and the Village of Islandia; on the east by the Hamlet of Ronkonkoma and the Hamlet of Bohemia; on the south by the Hamlet of North Great River, the Hamlet of Islip Terrace and the Hamlet of Islip; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Brentwood. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Central Islip has a different border than does the "Central Islip, NY 11722" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Central Islip mailing address and not be in Central Islip and a place can have other than a Central Islip mailing address and be in Central Islip). Those places that have a "Central Islip, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Central Islip are in the Village of Islandia and in the Hamlet of Hauppauge; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Central Islip with a "Bohemia, NY 11716" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Central Islip in the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.