This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/738.1 Message Board Post: Peggy: It appears that the 1865 census for Southampton Town has not survived. LDS microfilm #2057294 has Southold, Riverhead, Huntington, and Islip (including modern Babylon) towns; #2057295 has Brookhaven and Easthampton. The originals are at East Hampton Public Library. No Southampton. To my recollection, the 1875 for Suffolk County no longer exists, either. Are you sure Sag Harbor is in Southampton? Might it be in East Hampton? I can't remember. Russell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Farrell, Conner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/737.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Bob! Please do let me know if you find out more.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/737.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have been looking for information about Southampton Academy (high school) without any luck . A family member, Lewis Bowden ( ggguncle), was the principal of this school in the 1870's. Don't know what happened to the school but will pass anything along that I find.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/739.1 Message Board Post: On 7/14/03 (12:23:41 PM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Norma Ledford ([email protected]) asked, "Does anyone have access to obits for Central Islip 1993. Henry Franklin Pulliam born Nov 1, 1917 died Aug 16, 1993. I am helping a friend find info on this relative. Any help would be appreciated." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Central Islip Public Library: Central Islip Public Library 33 Hawthorne Avenue Central Islip, NY 11722 Tel: 631/234-9333 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: [email protected] http://www.suffolk.lib.ny.us/libraries/cisp/ The pertinent geography: Central Islip is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the north-central section of the Town of Islip, Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Central Islip in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by Hamlet of Hauppauge and the Village of Islandia; on the east by the Hamlet of Ronkonkoma and the Hamlet of Bohemia; on the south by the Hamlet of North Great River, the Hamlet of Islip Terrace and the Hamlet of Islip; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Brentwood. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Central Islip has a different border than does the "Central Islip, NY 11722" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Central Islip mailing address and not be in Central Islip and a place can have other than a Central Islip mailing address and be in Central Islip). Those places that have a "Central Islip, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Central Islip are in the Village of Islandia and in the Hamlet of Hauppauge; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Central Islip with a "Bohemia, NY 11716" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Central Islip in the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pulliam Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/739 Message Board Post: Does anyone have access to obits for Central Islip 1993. Henry Franklin Pulliam born Nov 1, 1917 died Aug 16, 1993. I am helping a friend find info on this relative. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Norma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Conner, Farrell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/738 Message Board Post: Needed: Random Act of Genealogical Kindness. I am presently unable to visit a FHC. If anyone is looking at the 1865 (or 1875?) NYS census data for Southampton, I'd be very grateful for a lookup. In 1870, in Sag Harbor, I find Patrick CONNER, 45, Laborer, & wife Helen, 40, both born in Ireland, with child Julia FARRELL, age 9. Anxious to learn if they were there at other dates, and if Julia lived with them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Conner, Farrell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/737.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Walter, Thanks. I couldn't find any listing for a town historian. Seems to come under the Town Clerk. I used the "contact" form, but don't know if my query went through; I got a "404 error" after hitting the final button to send it. Such is life. :) Peggy

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: [NYSUF] Schools in Southampton, 1870s >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/737.1 > >Message Board Post: > >On 7/10/03 (7:14:50 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Peggy Dolan ([email protected]) asked, > >"Can anyone provide information about what schools existed in Southampton in the 1870s, and whether any records now exist? From what I find on the web, the law requiring compulsory education for children 6 to 16 was passed in NY in 1874." > > > >For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Historian for the Town of Southampton: > >Town Historian >Town of Southampton Town >Southampton Town Hall >116 Hampton Road >Southampton, NY 11968 > >Tel: 631-283-6000 >Fax: 631/???-???? Also, the Brooklyn Genealogy website has a series of maps which show all the school districts in the Town of Southampton in 1873. See <http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Southamp.1.html> <http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Southamp.2.html> <http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Southamp.3.html> and <http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Southamp.partof.html> Ned Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/737.1 Message Board Post: On 7/10/03 (7:14:50 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Peggy Dolan ([email protected]) asked, "Can anyone provide information about what schools existed in Southampton in the 1870s, and whether any records now exist? From what I find on the web, the law requiring compulsory education for children 6 to 16 was passed in NY in 1874." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Historian for the Town of Southampton: Town Historian Town of Southampton Town Southampton Town Hall 116 Hampton Road Southampton, NY 11968 Tel: 631-283-6000 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: http://www.town.southampton.ny.us/contact.ihtml http://www.town.southampton.ny.us/index.ihtml I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Farrell, Conner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/737 Message Board Post: Can anyone provide information about what schools existed in Southampton in the 1870s, and whether any records now exist? From what I find on the web, the law requiring compulsory education for children 6 to 16 was passed in NY in 1874.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BISHOP, HAFER, BISHOP-GREEN, GREEN Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/736 Message Board Post: Jeanne H. Bishop Jeanne Bishop died in her sleep at her daughter's Davis home on July 6, 2003. She was 73. The older of two children, she was born in Bay Shore, N.Y., to Stella and Myron Hafer. Following her education at Syracuse University, she worked in New York City. There, in 1952, she met Samuel Carter Bishop on a blind date. They married six months later, then began a series of moves that found them living in five states in seven years. Along the way, they had four children -- each born in a different state. In 1961 they moved to Hawaii, where they served as Methodist missionaries for seven years. A job change for her husband brought her to Marin County in 1972. Because of her frequent moves and her children, Jeanne's professional life was richly varied. It included teaching high school, writing historical documentation for a company importing antiquities from Israel and working as an administrative assistant at UC Davis. After her husband's death in 1979, she moved from the Bay Area to Winters, where she dedicated herself to her church and the community. She recently moved to Davis, where her daughter's family lives. Her family said she will be remembered for her wicked sense of humor, bright intellect, ready opinions on almost every subject, her deep spirituality, and her passion for reading, crossword puzzles and her dog Sophie. She enjoyed spending time with her grandsons, especially the teasing that took place when they were together. She was preceded in death by her son Clay, in 1996, and her husband Sam. She is survived by daughter Holly Bishop-Green and son-in-law Steve Green of Davis, their sons Sam and Jacob, son Andy Bishop and his sons Drew, Cody and Brett of San Rafael, daughter Patricia Bishop of Yachats, Ore., brother Myron Hafer Jr. and his wife Connie of Lakeland, Fla., and several nieces and nephews. A memorial service will be held Friday at 11 a.m. at the Davis Funeral Chapel, 116 D St. (Obituary from the "The Davis Enterprise," July 9, 2003, (Yolo County, California). Submitted with the permission of the "The Davis Enterprise," 315 G Street, Davis, CA 95616, <http://www.davisenterprise.com/>. Please note: I am not related to the family listed above, and I do not have any further information on this family.)

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On 7/8/03 (8:26:01 PM MDT), as part of an eMail, Karen Isley Seiferth ([email protected]) asked, "After years of thinking that my great-aunt and her husband lived and died on Staten Island, I just found out that they moved to Vine Road, Rocky Point in 1968. She died in 1971 and he died in 1974. Are there any old phone books or city directories available for this timeframe? I'm trying to track down this side of the family and tie up some loose ends. What kind of neighborhood is this? Is this apartments, condos, private homes?" For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the North Shore Public Library (serves the Rocky Point-Shoreham-Wading River area): North Shore Public Library 250 Route 25A Shoreham, NY 11786 Tel: 631/929-4488 Fax: 631/929-4551 eMail: [email protected] http://nspl.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ Rocky Point is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northeastern part of the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County. There are 8 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 36 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Rocky Point in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Sound Beach and Long Island Sound; on the east by the Village of Shoreham and the Hamlets of East Shoreham and Ridge; on the south by the Hamlet of Middle Island; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Miller Place and Sound Beach. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Rocky Point has a different border than does the "Rocky Point, NY" postal zone. There are places that have a "Rocky Point, NY 11778" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Rocky Point. These places are in the Hamlet of Sound Beach. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Rocky Point in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

Folks, I need your help! After years of thinking that my great-aunt and her husband lived and died on Staten Island, I just found out that they moved to Vine Road, Rocky Point in 1968. She died in 1971 and he died in 1974. Are there any old phone books or city directories available for this timeframe? I'm trying to track down this side of the family and tie up some loose ends. What kind of neighborhood is this? Is this apartments, condos, private homes? Jim & Nellie (Ellen) had a daughter Germaine CORR who graduated Hunter College and taught elementary school, probably somewhere on the Island. According to the obituaries, Germaine lived in West Babylon. Maybe somebody even remembers her. Why would Nellie have a funeral mass in Infant Jesus RC Church in Port Jefferson, and Jim have his mass at Our Lady of Grace in West Babylon. As you all can plainly see, this transplanted Jersey girl is totally Long Island challenged and confused. And help would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Karen Isley Seiferth Florida

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/349.5.1 Message Board Post: Joshua's son was Josiah who served in the War of 1812. At that time Josiah was from (upstate?) NY; he served as a corporal in the 5th NY Militia. Perhaps you can work backwards from this info. Eli Goldsmith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GOLDSMITH, VORHEES, VAN ZANDTS, SUTFIN/SUTPHEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/349.5 Message Board Post: Hello, So far my search for my ancestor Joshua Goldsmith who served in the Rev. War has led me to your communication along with many others. Almost all are reaching a dead end or some sort of bottleneck concerning JG in the time span of 1713 to 1750. Are these dates familiar? This is the same region of time in which I am experiencing difficulty. I can offer this much info: My ancestor JG is buried in Romulus, NY. He probably died anywhere from 1800 to 1835, because he did not accompany his family to Michigan (Goldsmith men in my line are known for their longevity - hence the uncertainty). I figure he might have been born about 1750 or a bit later, or a bit earlier, because of his service in the RW. 1750 would make him 25 y/o at the outbreak of hostilities. He could have been ten years younger or older or 25 years older! So this is the best I can do. However, this info is taken from the bible of my ancestor DAVID Goldsmith who I see mentioned in your correspondence. Also, the name Elizabeth is quite familiar to my memory, so..... Hope this helps, or at least does not lead you too far astray. Any info you glean would be greatly appreciated. Good luck, Eli Goldsmith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/349.4 Message Board Post: Hello, So far my search for my ancestor Joshua Goldsmith who served in the Rev. War has led me to your communication along with many others. Almost all are reaching a dead end or some sort of bottleneck concerning JG in the time span of 1713 to 1750. Are these dates familiar? This is the same region of time in which I am experiencing difficulty. I can offer this much info: My ancestor JG is buried in Romulus, NY. He probably died anywhere from 1800 to 1835, because he did not accompany his family to Michigan (Goldsmith men in my line are known for their longevity - hence the uncertainty). I figure he might have been born about 1750 or a bit later, or a bit earlier, because of his service in the RW. 1750 would make him 25 y/o at the outbreak of hostilities. He could have been ten years younger or older or 25 years older! So this is the best I can do. However, this info is taken from the bible of my ancestor DAVID Goldsmith who I see mentioned in your correspondence. Also, the name Elizabeth is quite familiar to my memory, so..... Hope this helps, or at least does not lead you too far astray. Any info you glean would be greatly appreciated. Good luck, Eli Goldsmith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cenci, Iaccarino Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/735.1 Message Board Post: POSTED ON WRONG BOARD. SORRY!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cenci, Iaccarino Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/735 Message Board Post: Does anyone have an alphabetical list of all the Streets in Jersey City? I have a birth cert from May 1898, and the place of birth looks like "80 Garch Street," but I can't find this street on mapquest. COuld this have been one of the streets that changed names at some point? Thank you.