For those in the Long Island NY area, I like to find out if there is any interest in having a New France/Canada research "symposium" at the Lynbrook NY Family History Center this fall... Please reply to me, not the list(s).. (There will no costs associated with this...) Regards, Fred, ListUncle http://home.att.net/~unclefred www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/752 Message Board Post: I have a family bible with the names of Williams & Cihlar in it. Some of these are: Edna Williams, b. 8 Jul 1866, d. 15 Apr 1929; Norman Williams b. 28 Dec. 1890, d. 1 Jan. 1938; Lillian Williams b. 2 Dec. 1902, d. 27 May 1943; Kenneth Cihlar b. 25 Jul. 1945. Looking for anyone interested in this family. June

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Hi folks, for the last few days, my inbox has filled with bounce messages from various ISP's, the reason, and the reason many of you are not receiving mail from the list, or have "bounced" off the list may be as follows..: Osirisoft.com was part of the SPEWS blacklist service, which got some bad e-press lately because of the way they conducted their service. If one person at an ISP was associated with spamming, they would blacklist the entire ISP and the only way for the users of the ISP (Internet Service Provider) to get un-blacklisted would be for them to switch ISPs or convince their ISP to do whatever SPEWS told them to do. There was no appeals process. Some people got mad at Osirisoft and they have recently been the subject of a DDOS attack. It has been said that the owner of Osirisoft has PERMANENTLY shut down the service and blacklisted the entire Internet. I do not know if this is true. The way the service works, every piece of email sent through the service is checked to see if its origin is on the blacklist. If the entire Internet is blacklisted, then every piece of email sent through the service is rejected as spam. Any ISP filtering email through relays.osirisoft.com must reconfigure to filter through another server or turn off filtering to fix this situation. However, it's hard to contact them to tell them this, since any email sent will be filtered as spam! Hopefully they pay attention and fix it on their own. For reference, check out this link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/27/0214238&mode=thread&tid=111& tid=126 Regards, Fred, ListUncle www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex

On 8/23/03 (8:09:35 AM MDT), Barbara ([email protected]) asked, "Where would be the best place to look for Southold records, i.e. birth, marriage, death, wills, deeds, administration papers and militia records?" For birth, marriage and death, you'll want to ask the Town Clerk for the Town of Southold: Town Clerk Southold Town Hall P.O. Box 1179 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Tel: 631/765-1981 Fax: 631/765-1823 eMail: ????? http://www.northfork.net/southold/ For wills, deed and other such documents, you'll want to ask the County Clerk for Suffolk County: County Clerk's Office Suffolk County 310 Center Drive Riverhead, NY 11901-3392 Tel: 631/852-2001 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: [email protected] http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp2.cfm?dept=33&id=2041 The pertinent geography: Southold is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the center of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County. There are 1 village and 10 hamlets in the Town of Southold. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Southold in the Town of Southold is bordered on the north by Long Island Sound; on the east by the Hamlet of Greenport West; on the south by the Little Peconic Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Peconic. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Southold has a different border than does the "Southold, NY 11971" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Southold mailing address and not be in Southold and a place can have other than a Southold mailing address and be in Southold). Those places that have a "Southold, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Southold are in the Hamlet of West Greenport; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Southold with a "Peconic, NY 11936" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Southold in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 30 (map) and 31 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah & Happy 5764, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

>Subject: [SFK-UK] Southold records > > Where would be the best place to look for Southold records, i.e. birth, > > marriage, death, wills, deeds, administration papers and militia >records? > > Where are the wills, deeds and administration papers located? > > Would any of this information be available at the Huntington Historical > > Society?> > Thanks> Barbara> > > _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/751.3 Message Board Post: What families are you working on in Manorville. I have copied all the cemeteries in the community and have data on many of the families. Nate Carter

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/751.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Walter, for the "new" telephone number for Suffolk County Clerk & property. I should know better, but I used an old list and didn't look in the latest telephone book. George

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/751.2 Message Board Post: On 8/18/03 (6:08:45 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Board that was 'gatewayed' to [email protected], Delli Speers ([email protected]) asked, "Working on a personal genealogical history of family property in Manorville. Where might I find registered deeds and plat maps for the area? Please clarify where I might do the research." As George.P.Miller ([email protected]) recommended, you would want to contact the Suffolk County Clerk: County Clerk's Office Suffolk County 310 Center Drive Riverhead, NY 11901-3392 Tel: 631/852-2001 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: [email protected] http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp2.cfm?dept=33&id=2041 The Office of the Suffolk County Clerk offers on online link to Public Land Records: http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp3.cfm?dept=33&id=2065 Also, the telephone number for Land Recording is: 631/852-2043. The pertinent geography: Manorville is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northeast section of the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County, along the Brookhaven/Riverhead town line. There are 8 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Manorville in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Calverton in the Town of Riverhead (the Brookhaven/Riverhead town line); on the east by the Hamlets of Calverton and Eastport; on the south by the Hamlets of East Moriches, Center Moriches, Moriches and Mastic; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Mastic, Shirley and Yaphank (Brookhaven National Laboratory). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Manorville has a different border than does the "Manorville, NY 11949" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Manorville mailing address and not be in Manorville and a place can have other than a Manorville mailing address and be in Manorville). Those places that have a "Manorville, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Manorville are in the Hamlet of Calverton, Town of Riverhead; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Calverton with an "East Moriches, NY 11940" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Manorville in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah & Happy 5764, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/751.1 Message Board Post: All property records for the county are filed at the Suffolk County Clerk's Office, County Center, Riverhead NY 11901. I believe the telephone # for Property is 631-548-3417. Filed maps are indexed by town and then alphabetically by the name of the filed map. The name can be a subdivision name and the name of a property owner. Mortgage and deed indexes are in bound volumes, and through 1950 are alphjabetically for the entire county. For 1951-1976, the bound indexes are alphabetical by town. After 1976, the indexes are again alphabetical on a county-wide basis. Manorville is in the Town of Brookhaven.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/751 Message Board Post: Working on a personal genealogical history of family property in Manorville. Where might I find registered deeds and plat maps for the area? Please clarify where I might do the research. I would be traveling from Western PA. Thank you in advance for your response.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/750.1 Message Board Post: You can check with the Suffolk County Historical Society at Riverhead, or with the Town Historian for the Town of Southampton. During the colonial period, you seldom find records, listings and other information lower than the town level. I would think that an early listing identified as the Town of Southampton would be exactly that - covering the entire town and not just part of it.

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<A HREF="http://howellresearch.com/persons.html">INDEX</A> [95358] In May 1775, at age 22, he signed the Association of Americans againstBritish tyranny at Southampton (Suffolk County Hall), N.Y. On July 4,1776, he was living with his father Lemuel 3d during the Southamptoncensus (quantity of males shows all male children there). In 1776,"Samuel Peirson, son of Lemuel Peirson the 3d" registered his cattlebrand "S.P." at Southampton. In 1783, "Samuel Pierson of Sagg"registered his cattle earmark at Southampton. On 2 July 1787, he wasamong the signers of an agreement between the residents ofBridgehampton and Rev. Aaron Woolworth. In 1792, "Samuel Peirson,Bridge Hampton", registered a cattle earmark at Southampton that hebought of Col. David Peirson, his uncle. Samuel held Southampton townoffices: in 1800 as Overseer of Highways 6th district; and in 1802 and1805 as Fence Viewer. On January 3, 1803, Samuel and his brotherWilliam Peirson manumitted a female slave named Peggy. (PiersonMillennium) [95359] <A HREF="http://howellresearch.com/sources.html#S790">[S790]</A> History of Southampton, L.I., NY The above info comes from this site: http://howellresearch.com/d0069/g0000077.html You could write or call the Bridgehampton Historical Society, Main Street, Bridgehampton, NY 11932 for info. Kathleen

> Is anyone aware if the "Articles of Association" that were signed for Southampton in 1775 included the surrounding hamlets as well? > > The list of Southampton Signers is widely published. The copy I have is from J.A.Turslow's "History of the Town of Southampton." It lists a total of 90 signators, and the notation that this was "...all the Males of the Town of Southampton from sisteen years old and Upwards...excepting Mr. Elisha Paine and John Cook." > > Does anyone know if there was another list signed for the hamlet of Bridgehampton? This list of 90 (+2) names is conspicuously missing several prominant Bridgehampton families from the time, such as HEDGES, PIERSON, STANSBORO, CORWITH, WHITE and SAYRE. > > Is anyone aware of any published lists of Association signers for the outlieing areas, like Bridgehampton? > I tried to post this to the message board but I got a response first that my "message contains no data," and then that there were "too many Java Script errors." I don't know if it's ancestry's fault or mine. You might want to check _Calendar of Historical Manuscripts Relating to the War of the Revolution in the Office of the Secretary of State_ (Albany, 1868), 2 vols. (FHC microfilm #1550750). Vol. I has a number of lists of Suffolk County signators of the association, including, on p. 59, the one you mention. In front of that, on p. 58, is a longer list of names of men who signed at "County Hall" in May 1775, attested by Daniel Howell at Southampton on July 19. Comparing the names of men indexed (at the end of Vol. II) in the June, 1776, census of the eastern district of Southampton (east of a "place called the Water mill") pp. 412-417, one finds a number of similar names between the signators in this list and those enumerated in the census. On p. 120 of the same vol. is a list of officers of the 2nd Battalion, Suffolk County, dated Aug. 21, 1775. It appears that the officers of the 3rd Company were men from the eastern district. They were David Peirson, captain; Daniel Heges, 1st lt.; David Sayre, 2nd lt.; and Theophilus Peirson, ensign. All four names are in the census and in the list of County Hall signators, as is that of Jonathan Hedges, 2nd colonel [Lt. Col.?] of the battalion. Please note the variety of spellings of the names in the index. Are you referring to James Truslow Adams, _History of Southampton_? Russell K. Brown

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/jUB.2ACI/750 Message Board Post: Is anyone aware if the "Articles of Association" that were signed for Southampton in 1775 included the surrounding hamlets as well? The list of Southampton Signers is widely published. The copy I have is from J.A.Turslow's "History of the Town of Southampton." It lists a total of 90 signators, and the notation that this was "...all the Males of the Town of Southampton from sisteen years old and Upwards...excepting Mr. Elisha Paine and John Cook." Does anyone know if there was another list signed for the hamlet of Bridgehampton? This list of 90 (+2) names is conspicuously missing several prominant Bridgehampton families from the time, such as HEDGES, PIERSON, STANSBORO, CORWITH, WHITE and SAYRE. Is anyone aware of any published lists of Association signers for the outlieing areas, like Bridgehampton?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/553.1 Message Board Post: I went to school with Roger Payne's half-brother Kimberly in Quogue Elementary School in the 1950's. I have visited the Oakwood Cemetery (Edward, Virginia, their mother Hattie,...) since reading your two queries a couple of weeks ago. I tried to "write" to you via your e-mail address, only to have it come back as undeliverable. Yesterday I posted a message about this. Today I located this page/option. I'm hoping that this will go through to you. If you wish to have further information, please contact me. Diane

Good evening - Can you help me? I am really mixed up with the following - the dates don't match, like perhaps I am missing a generation or perhaps a child was born when the parents were OLD - but that seems not to be the case, cuz I am having problems with more than one name - It is hard to try to tell you - wish I could show you their pedigree charts - I will do my best - Here they are: ROSE FAMILY- .Robert 1) ROSE 1594 Eng -1665 CT + Margery EVERED 1594 Eng- bef 1664 CT ..John 2) ROSE [twin] 1619 Eng - 1697 NY + Abigail 2) RAYNOR <1642> NY - 1697 NY Having 23 years between John 2) ROSE and his wife Abigail 2) RAYNOR is kinda odd for 1st marriage- isn't it? ...Martyn 3) ROSE <1674> married 1699 died 1729 +Sarah 4) HOWELL <1678> d 1729 will probated 1735 .....Sarah 4)ROSE 1699 - 1721 + md 1700!! TO: deacon James HAYNES see what I mean about the dates?? No way can she be born 1699 and married 1700 -- I just know that one of you will have something about these families and will be able to help me.. HOWELL LINE .Edward 1) HOWELL 1584-1655/5 +Frances -1) PAXTON bur 2 July 1630 ..Richard 2) HOWELL 1629-1698 +Elizabeth HALSEY 1632-1698+ ...Richard 3) HOWELL 1659-1740 [19 at marriage] +Sarah SCOTT <1660> if 18 at marriage in 1678 ....Sarah 4) HOWELL <1678> married 1699 died 1729 +Martyn 3) ROSE <1674> died 1729 Now about the SCOTT FAMILY Capt John -1) SCOTT b. 1632 ,county Kent, England d. 1696+ ,,England md 2 May 1660 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, NY TO: Deborah 2) RAYNOR d/o Thurston 1) RAYNOR and Martha 2) WOOD b. c 1646 Wethersfield, Hartford, Connecticut d. aft 21 Dec 1691 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Isl.NY md2) aft 1663 Charles STURMY NOTE: Deborah's husband John SCOTT deserted her and their only son, Jackiomiah..she md2) Charles STURMY of Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York. Children: 2. i. Jackiomiah 2) SCOTT b 1663 2. Jackiomiah 2) SCOTT [John 1] b. 1663 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, NY d. 9 Mar 1739 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Isl. NY md c 1688 Hampstead, Long Island, New York TO: Mary 4) JACKSON [twin of Martha] children of Capt. John 3) JACKSON and Elizabeth 2) SEAMANS b. 1678 Hempstead, Queens, Long Island, New York d. bef 26 Aug 1724 Southampton, Suffolk, LI, NY As you can see IF these dates were correct, Jackiomiah was 25 when he married a 10 year old Mary JACKSON --- SOMETHING IS SO WRONG HERE- I will stop here - I am getting confused (((smile))) Thank you very much for your help - Wilma Fleming Haynes [email protected]