This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1075.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the website. That answers my question about when Peconic was settled. I've bookmarked the Newsday website too so I can read the history of Long Island. A good site for all Long Island researchers. Carolyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1075.1.1.1 Message Board Post: There is a short history of Peconic at http://www.newsday.com/community/guide/lihistory/ny-historytown-hist007i,0,7114055.story?coll=ny-lihistory-navigation

Message Board Post: <<Thank you for your two replies. I had hoped that you were working with some primary evidence that would really establish a date of birth. I am familiar with E. T. Corwin's book, have worked with it for nearly 50 years. Web sites such as you cite are often inaccurate, as people state their guesses as if they were facts. When they don't cite sources that you can check, you would do well to take their information with a grain of salt.>> Here, Here, damacd! I too, do not trust any of the websites. Most do not supply their sources. Most published early genealogies are just as bad. Sometimes, they go and get an obit, just to confirm the person did die, but not all of the information recorded is true. It depends on who they talk to after the fact. I have proved many of my mother's ancestors have been fabricated, kids getting shifted around to different families. Census records, and church records I have checked, have kept my families correct. Some people even submit their work to the FHC and still no sources.....but they are wrong, and it's hard to correct. I have been contacted by a few distance relatives, they want to know (because I have posted to many message boards) if I can send them proof of what I have. In the beginning, I did, (I have been doing this on a profession level for over 25 years) but, I just got tired of proving them wrong. (and wasting my time and money on copies and stamps) Now I send them the Film # or to the town clerk, where I have already paid the fee. Or a library where I found the biographies, obits, birth, marriage records. This is a wonderful hobby, but you have to roll up your sleeves and do the homework! I say, if you want the facts, then go get them. If you have some to share, then share. Don't just take someones word for it. You need to have a source. I have a ton of records that my neice has been helping me with, we have been transcribing them for years and putting it into a big database. I know that some sites out there are trying to help (longislandenealogy.com is one of them,) but they are not accurate. They are just uploading the books that have the mistakes in them. OK, off of my soapbox now. Everyone have a nice week-end. Terre

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1075.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Walter for the interesting information. I'll contact the Southold Library as you suggested. And a Happy New Year to you.:-)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1075.1 Message Board Post: On 9/16/05 (4:07:18 PM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Carolyn (cgoud800@yahoo.com) asked, "I'm trying to find sme history on this hamlet? An Atlas says it's current pop. is 1,100. I've tried 'Google' but only find that the Peconic Tribe of Algonquian Indians came here to fish and clam for many years before Europeans settled there. When did the hamlet come into existance?" The Suffolk County Planning Department began enumerating the population of the Hamlet of Peconic with the 1940 federal census. The 1940 population was 608 and the January 1, 2004 population was 1,152 (LIPA est.). For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Southold Free Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Southold Free Library 53705 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Tel: 631/765-2077 Fax: 631/765-2197 eMail: sohdlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://sohd.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Peconic is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the center of the Town of Southold, in the northeast part of Suffolk County. There are 1 village (a municipal corporation) and 10 hamlets in the Town of Southold. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Peconic in the Town of Southold is bordered on the north by Long Island Sound and the Hamlet of Southold; on the east by the Hamlet of Southold and Little Peconic Bay; on the south by the Hamlet of Cutchogue; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Cutchogue and the Hamlet of Mattituck. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Peconic has a different border than does the "Peconic, NY 11958" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Peconic mailing address and not be in Peconic and a place can have other than a Peconic mailing address and be in Peconic). Those places that have a "Peconic, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Peconic are in the Hamlet of Southold; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Peconic with a "Southold, NY 11971" and a "Cutchogue, NY 11935" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Peconic in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 30 (map) and 31 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5766, Walter Greenspan * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, Rosh ha Shannah begins at sunset on Monday, October 3 on the civil calendar. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1075 Message Board Post: I'm trying to find sme history on this hamlet? An Atlas says it's current pop. is 1,100. I've tried 'Google' but only find that the Peconic Tribe of Algonquian Indians came here to fish and clam for many years before Europeans settled there. When did the hamlet come into existance?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Corwin/Appleby/Booth/Slack Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1.3.1 Message Board Post: My daughter has the same Corwin Genealogy book. James m. Mary Appleby. Stirling Cemetery in Suffolk County, L.I. N.Y. has 68 Corwins buried there including a James. C. Corwin b. 3-16-1820, d. 5-31-1893-plot 221This could possibly be the above mentioned James's son James Conklin Corwin. Hasn't been verified. A James C. Corwin m. Ruth T. Booth Sept. 21, 1848. They had a son Joseph B., b. Sept. 19, 1853, d. Jan. 27, 1926, who m. Frances Adelaid Slack 9-29-1875. They were found in the 1880 Kings County, N.Y. (Brooklyn) Census living with her father, James Slack, a jeweler.Peconic is an old village, currently with a pop. of 1,100. Very close to Southold. Hope this is some help to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks the ifo on the LDS site was not submitted by any particular person, but apparently by LDS members. Did not mention where the info was received from. The other info was quoted from the Corwin book. I have to assume that they had some records to go on when that book was written. My mother in law is decended from his son James C. I have many pictures of the early 1900's when the family ran a bed and breakfast in Greenport on the water.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Corwin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for your two replies. I had hoped that you were working with some primary evidence that would really establish a date of birth. I am familiar with E. T. Corwin's book, have worked with it for nearly 50 years. Web sites such as you cite are often inaccurate, as people state their guesses as if they were facts. When they don't cite sources that you can check, you would do well to take their information with a grain of salt. Perhaps I can help you improve your data sheet. Peconic, NY did not exist when James Corwin was born. He was born in Southold, Suffolk County, New York. The best age we have for him is from page 300 of the 1850 census of Southold, where he was listed as 60, placing his birth in 1789-1790. His marriage was on 3 February 1814, not 1824, and by 1824 he had son John and daughter Mary and perhaps son James C. The marriage on that date is recorded in the Southold First Church records. I hope that this will be of help to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1.3 Message Board Post: Here is what it says in the "Corwin Genealogy (Curwin, Curwen, Curwine) In The United States" By Edward Tanjore Corwin. Available from Heritage Books Page 103- "James son of Thomas b.------,1790. M.----------Appleby Ch. John, Mary, James C., Joseph. I filled in the blanks by using the LDS search. If you need any more info don't hesitate to ask.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1.2 Message Board Post: James Corwin b. 1791 in Peconic Suffolk, N.Y. Married Mary Appleby 1824, Brooklyn, N.Y. (Kings County) He died Sept. 16th, 1872. I found this on www.familysearch.org on the "advanced" search looking for his marriage to Mary Appleby. I also have the Corwin family book as my mother in law was a Corwin. I can consult that book also.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Corwin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1.1 Message Board Post: David, this is my son-in-laws mothers family. My daughter is doing the research but I've been trying to help. I'll find out what she has on their children and one of us will get back to you. I don't have her notes. Carolyn

I joined the list for some advice which I got from some of the members and took their advice. We found a living descendant and are very happy with the outcome. Thank you for all your help and kudos to you all. Thank you, Chris UT

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/596.1 Message Board Post: He was James Corwin, son of Thomas Corwin and Elizabeth Clark, born around 1789 (where does your 1791 come from? gravestone?), and he married Mary Appleby on 5 February 1814 (not 1824) in Suffolk County, New York (not New York City). I can amplify on this if you want. I'd be most grateful for any information you may have on their children.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/climate/1800_1849.htm Note 1814-1816 Regards, Fred

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1074.1 Message Board Post: On 9/11/05 (6:55:42 AM MDT), in a posting to the Suffolk County ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Tonia Skinner Hannemann (tnotto@earthlink.net) asked, "To what office do I send a request for a copy of a birth recording for mattituck in 1866?" It's my understanding that circa 1866 there was no New York State requirement for local municipalities to maintain such records (those requirements begin in 1881), but if the Town of Southold (Mattituck is a hamlet in the Town of Southold) did, here's the contact info: Town Clerk Town of Southold Southold Town Hall P.O. Box 1179 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Tel: 631/765-1981 Fax: 631/765-1823 eMail: e.neville@town.southold.ny.us http://southoldtown.northfork.net//town_clerk.htm The pertinent geography: Mattituck is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the western part of the Town of Southold, along the Southold/Riverhead town line, in the northeast part of Suffolk County. There are 1 village (municipal corporation) and 10 hamlets in the Town of Southold. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Mattituck in the Town of Southold is bordered on the north by the Long Island Sound; on the east by the Hamlets of Peconic and Cutchogue; on the south by the Peconic Bay and the Hamlet of Laurel; and, on the east by Hamlet of Northville in the Town of Riverhead (the Southold/Riverhead own line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Mattituck has a different border than does the "Mattituck, NY 11952" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Mattituck mailing address and not be in Mattituck and a place can have other than a Mattituck mailing address and be in Mattituck). Those places that have a "Mattituck, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Mattituck are in the Hamlet of Laurel and in the Hamlet of Cutchogue; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Mattituck with a "Riverhead, NY 11901" and a "Cutchogue, NY 11935" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Mattituck in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 30 (map) and 31 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5766, Walter Greenspan * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, Rosh ha Shannah begins at sunset on Monday, October 3 on the civil calendar. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SKINNER Birth recording Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/jUB.2ACI/1074 Message Board Post: To what office do I send a request for a copy of a birth recording for mattituck in 1866? Tonia Skinner Hannemann

For information on US Counties, you might try: http://www.naco.org/Template.cfm?Section=Find_a_County&Template=/cffiles/counties/usamap.cfm http://www.danasoft.com/sig/OnclePhred.jpg Regards, Fred www.provoncha.com www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex

If you would like the program list for Westchester County Genealogical Society for 2005-2006, please send an email directly to me and I would be happy to send it to you . It is a Microsoft Word document 2003. The WCGS program committee have come up with an interesting mixture of talks. There are going to be talks concerning Westchester - Yonker and the Old Croton Aqueduct. There are going to be talks about the areas close to Westchester - Roosevelt Island (also known as Welfare Island and Blackwell Island) and Putnam County. There are going to talks about military records, wrong records, church records, Ellis Island and memoir writing. There will be a meeting at the Dobbs Ferry Public Library and one at the Kent Public Library. So we are hoping to see many of you at the meetings but if not, I am sure that there will be a great write up in the WCGS newsletter. Again, if you like a copy of the program list, please send an email directly to me.

Rooters & Rootsers: Here's a bit of history as it's being made ... According to today's (Saturday, September 3) NEWSDAY, "Sagaponack's eligible voters went to the polls Friday, September 2, 2005, and approved the formation of Long Island's newest village by a vote of 295-11." NEWSDAY adds, "An election will be held in the next two months for a mayor and four trustees. Community leaders said they don't expect to make any significant changes and want as little government as possible." According to NEWSDAY the reason was that "Voters in Sagaponack showed little interest in forming a village until last year, when an attempt was made to create a different village in Southampton, the proposed Village of Dunehampton. That village would have been made up of the southern parts of three adjoining communities: Bridgehampton, Water Mill and Sagaponack. The people who lived on the northern end of each community -- most of them north of Montauk Highway -- feared the village would mean a loss of access to their beaches and a subsequent loss in property value to their homes. In Sagaponack, they reasoned, the way to stop the threat of being split apart was to form their own village. For the complete NEWSDAY article, "A village is born in Sagaponack", please go to (copy and paste the entire URL, beginning with "http" and ending with "-print"): http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-lisaga034409531sep03,0, 6653780.story?coll=ny-linews-print The pertinent geography: Sagaponack is a village (incorporated in 2005) in the southeast section of the Town of Southampton (it's up against the Southampton/East Hampton town line), in the southeast part of Suffolk County. There are currently 6 villages (municipal corporations) and 17 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Southampton. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of Sagaponack in the Town of Southampton is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Bridgehampton; on the east by the Hamlet of Wainscott in the Town of East Hampton (the Southampton/East Hampton town line); on the south by the Atlantic Ocean; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Bridgehampton. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Village of Sagaponack has a different border than does the "Sagaponack, NY 11962" postal zone (i.e., a place can be in Sagaponack and have other than a Sagaponack mailing address). There are places in the Village of Sagaponack that have a "Bridgehampton, NY 11932" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Sagaponack (incorporated in 2005) in the Town of Southampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 28 (map) and 29 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. L'Shannah Tovah* & Happy 5766, Walter Greenspan * L'Shannah Tovah (li-SHAH-nuh TOH-vuh; li-shah-NAH toh-VAH) Hebrew. Lit. for a good year. The common greeting during Rosh ha Shannah and the Days of Awe. This is a shortening of "L'Shannah tovah tikatev v'taihatem" (or, to women, "L'Shannah tovah tikatevi v'taihatemi"), which means, "May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year." This year, Rosh ha Shannah begins at sunset on Monday, October 3 on the civil calendar. . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing