WOW! What a great group! Thank you for the help (and speedy too!) The info you've all sent me has given me some answers and MORE questions of course. -- The Ormsby chart shows Matilda's maiden name as Cook - but everything else I've found says Hart -- however - Lucinda's (2nd wife) daughter thought her mother's name was Cook. From the census it looks like it could have been Chapman and not Cook or she married a Chapman who died real quick. Diane, I'm going to answer you off list - so if you don't receive something from me by tomorrow please write me at eljace@aol.com I have access through NEHGS to Massachusetts Vital records for approx 1850 - 1890 right now if someone needs a lookup - not all records online yet but most are. Thanks again all Luanne Three Rivers, MA