This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rivenburg, Crawford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2RB.2ACE/8323.1 Message Board Post: You may be able to find obits for those people. For info on old NY state newspapers available on microfilm go to this site: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/ The Watertown Daily Times may have obits. You know the date of death so look for microfilm within a day or two after the deaths. Initiate the request from you closest public library that has a microfilm reader. The request is from your local library to the holding library. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland