This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Allen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2RB.2ACE/8522 Message Board Post: Hi. I'm trying to trace my Allen family tree, hope someone here can help. I'm a descendant of Charles H Allen, born in 1830 Norfolk, St. Lawrence, married to Almira Heaton. A son of Ira, he started his family in Norfolk, St. Lawrence, NY, but moved to Ottawa County, MI. His father was Ira Allen, b: Feb 20, 1783 Vermont married to Laura Palmer. Both Ira and Laura died in Norfolk, St. Lawrence. I trying to find the parents and grandparents of Ira Allen. Most web sites list Ira's parents as Jonathan Allen and Margaret Hoffcut. These sites list Jonathan Allen, the son of Ezekiel Allen and Sarah Hassam, as seen in. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=SingleArticle&ArticleID=0000270, a web page derived from "Allen Family Records by J. Montgomery Seaver." and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dbatten/allen.html a web page derived from "ALLEN Family of Manchester, Mass., to 1886, by J. Price.". Now I got both books, but they only go from William Allen 1602 to Jonathan H Allen July 29, 1753. They don't list Jonathan's spouse or children. So I have no direct spoof of either Ira Allen's parents or Jonathan Allen's parents. Question(s). Is Jonathan Allen, the one listed in http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dbatten/jallennotes.html, the parent of my Ira Allen ? Is his parent Ezekiel Allen? Or is it Ebenezeer Allen, uncle to Ethan Allen? Any information would be greatly appreciated...Dennis