This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathylongoria1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/4136.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Gary, This has been a difficult line to trace. I am pretty sure that Daniel Rice and Phebe Barrett were married in Vermont, probably around 1796 or 1797. They had moved to New York prior to 1810. Daniel is listed on the 1810 census as living in Lewis, Essex, New York. By 1820 they had moved to Stockholm, St. Lawrence, New York and remained there until around 1841. They then moved to the Cape Vincent, Jefferson County area. I believe they moved because their son Truman was living there. Although they died in Cape Vincent, they are buried in St. Lawrence Union Cemetery in St. Lawrence. (According the the Northern New York Genealogy site) I'm not exactly sure where this is, I have checked Ann Cady's website and can't find them listed. If I had to guess, I would think it was in Stockholm, since they lived there for so long. Their children were born between 1798 and 1814 (even those details are a bit sketchy). The best I can figure: Lovisa b. 1798; Cornelius b. 1800; Daniel b. 1802; Leander b. 1804; Lydia b. 1805; Harlow b. 1806/7; Brister b. 1808; Truman b.1814. I know that the children from Lovisa through Harlow were born in Vermont. Not sure about Brister. Truman was born in New York (probably in Essex County). On the Allen side, there is a great book you can look at through Ancestry.com called "Our County and Its People: A Memorial Record of St. Lawrence County, New York" Edited by Gates Curtis. You can find it through the card catalog. It has some really interesting background on the Allen clan, especially with Samuel Allen (Nathaniel's father) as well as Nathaniel and his brother George Russell Allen (who lived to be over 100 years!) If you have trouble getting to it, let me know and I can send you copies of what I have though e-mail. It is a nice addition to the genealogy. It really brings all of our ancestors to life. If I get more, I'll let you know. Best wishes, Cathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.