Sharon Thank you so much. I am related to Arthur Burns, and the family tree would not be complete without at least a little bit about his wife. I would appreciate the information about Ellen. At some point in the next few weeks I hope to go to Ogdensburg to do a little research in person. It's just over an hour's drive from my home. The online newspapers and ancestry.com are terrific sources but I should do a little more 'bare knuckles' research to complete the picture. Ann Burns Ottawa, ON ________________________________ From: "nystlawr-request@rootsweb.com" <nystlawr-request@rootsweb.com> To: nystlawr@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 3:00:39 AM Subject: NYSTLAWR Digest, Vol 5, Issue 139 Today's Topics: 1. Re: ARTHUR L BURNS in Ogdensburg and GLAUDE(Glode, Gloud, Gladu) (Sharyn Brackett) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:13:46 -0700 From: Sharyn Brackett <srb.genealogy@juno.com> Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] ARTHUR L BURNS in Ogdensburg and GLAUDE(Glode, Gloud, Gladu) To: nystlawr@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20100531.171346.3512.1.srb.genealogy@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Ann, My husband descends from a sister of Ellen Thompson Glode who married Arthur Burns. I am able to give you some information on the parents and siblings of Ellen Thompson if you are interested. I think the father of Robert John Glode might have been Peter Glode. Canton might be a place to do research, in terms of probate records. Ogdensburg would be a good place to search, also. The Ogdensburg library has lots of newspapers on microfilm. The library also has a number of books to look through. Sharyn Brackett Southern California ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c0450dcaf3cb47defm03vuc ------------------------------ To contact the NYSTLAWR list administrator, send an email to NYSTLAWR-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NYSTLAWR mailing list, send an email to NYSTLAWR@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYSTLAWR-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NYSTLAWR Digest, Vol 5, Issue 139 ****************************************

Hi Ann, My husband descends from a sister of Ellen Thompson Glode who married Arthur Burns. I am able to give you some information on the parents and siblings of Ellen Thompson if you are interested. I think the father of Robert John Glode might have been Peter Glode. Canton might be a place to do research, in terms of probate records. Ogdensburg would be a good place to search, also. The Ogdensburg library has lots of newspapers on microfilm. The library also has a number of books to look through. Sharyn Brackett Southern California ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c0450dcaf3cb47defm03vuc

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmmauser Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Very cool - I'm very interested in looking at the St. Regis records for sure. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction ; ) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rkurpiers1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16482.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy: This a very helpful find. Thank you! Ron Kurpiers p.s. If I can be helpful with any Minnesota research, please let me know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sedgwick180 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The marriage record should be 1896 - my error. My information is from Ancestry.ca. St. Regis Catholic records are also available through the LDS Pilot site at http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch. They are not indexed so you will have to scroll through them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stow3 Surnames: Issacs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If it is, you should check out the possibility that Margaret's husband was named John Issacs. John and "Maggie" Issacs are in the 1900 and 1910 census' of the Town of Bombay. They are both listed as "Indian" and they are about the right age. I'm trying to locate a copy of the 1900 census, as I show John listed as Son in Law and Maggie as Daughter, so it should show who her parents are. In 1910, they have two daughters, Louisa and Mary, but the ages don't jibe with what you have already... Louisa is 10 and Mary is 5 in 1910. It also indicates that Maggie has had 5 children but only two are living. If I can find the original of the 1900 census, would you like a copy? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmmauser Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is wonderful - thank you. I don't have an exact dob - and no record of a Sarah, though this seems like a likely canidate to be our Frank Terrance. I will look into it! Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stow3 Surnames: Terrance Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a Frank Terrance listed in the records of Canadian soldiers of WWI. He gives his birthdate as August 1 1876 in Franklin Co, NY. The record was signed October 11, 1915 in Cornwall, Ontario (just over the St Lawrence River from Massena, St Lawrence Co, NY). He is a widower and gives as next of kin his oldest daughter Sarah, then living in Franklin Co, NY. I've attached a copy of this record in case it is the right Frank. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: J_Makowiec Surnames: Miller, DeLair Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16488/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Miller, Harriet M. LANDENBERG, Pa. Mrs. Harriet M. Miller, age 87, of Landenberg, died on Wednesday, May 26, 2010, at Linden Hall in Kennett Square, Pa. Born in Heuvelton, N.Y. on June 8, 1922, Mrs. Miller was the daughter of the late John E. DeLair and Mary Parrish DeLair. She was a talented home-maker throughout her life and delighted in caring for and spending time with her beloved family. In her leisure hours, she greatly enjoyed scrapbooking, watching favorite game shows and stock car racing, and solving challenging crossword puzzles. She also astounded everyone with her tremendous good luck in winning with scratch-off lottery tickets. Her beloved husband of 66 years, Quinton J. Miller, died in 2007. She is survived by her children, Janet Graham (Richard) of Landenberg, Kenneth Miller of Suffern, N.Y., David Miller (Pamela) of Schenectady, N.Y. and John Miller (Karen) of Albany, N.Y.; grandchildren, Brian Graham (Colleen), Steven Graham (Chrystal), Jennifer Muzzi (Chris! topher), Danielle Winne, Christopher Miller, and Kenneth Miller Jr.; and great-grandchildren, Michael, Shelby, Ashley, Ryan, Connor, and Spencer Graham and DeLaira Muzzi. A funeral service will be held at 11:30 a.m. on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, at Spicer-Mullikin Funeral Home, 121 West Park Place, Newark, Del. where visitation will begin at 10:30 a.m. Interment will follow in Delaware Veterans Memorial Cemetery, 2465 Chesapeake City Road, Bear, Del. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to Friends Home/Linden Hall, 147 West State Street, Kennett Square, PA 19348; or to Willow Tree Hospice, 100 Sycamore Drive, West Grove, PA 19390. To sign guest book, visit spicermullikin.com Published in Albany Times Union on May 30, 2010 http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/timesunion-albany/obituary.aspx?n=harriet-m-miller&pid=143221301 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmmauser Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the reply. Gregg (my brother-in-law) did mention to me that they were on the Canadian border, so the Quebec thing makes sense - I'll do some searching in Canadian records. I will run the name 'Thompson' by him for a possible maiden for his gr. grandma and see if it rings any bells. I'm assuming on the marriage record you meant 1896? If you don't mind me asking - where are you finding these records? You also mention that the 'Native' name of the father is listed on those with the surname Terrance - I'm so new at this. I know nothing about how the Mowhawk took their names. Was it customary to have two names? And how did they determine their english names? In the record for Margaret Isaacs Terrance, both daughters are listed by the last name Isaacs - would it be possible that the daughter's would have taken he mother's name, not the fathers? Thanks so much for any further advice. I love ancestry's message boards - I always find the most helpful people. Thanks again for your time and effort. Lisa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crystalpremo Surnames: Premo/Primeau, Gadebois/Gadbois, Vandandaique dit Gadbois, Gardinier, Welling Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16487/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the marriage record for Noel Primeau and Ursule Gadebois/Gadbois, and also for some information about her heritage. They lived in St. Regis, but may have been married elsewhere. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aruthbarsi Surnames: LaGrave, DuFresne Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/4371.4380/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know whether this will help you, but.... Just this past weekend I was at a family gathering and my brother-in-law had a family tree typed by his grandmother in 1960. The LaGraves that show up in the Civil War records would all have been sons of William Charles LaGrave and his wife Esther DuFresne. If you check the 1860 census, they're listed together. It looks like Dennis was one of 13 children, 6 of whom were in the Civil War. They all started out in Messina NY, and after the war spread out across the country - most to the midwest, but one went to California. Another note on the tree might be a little clue though - It says that brothers William Charles (b.1810) and Michael LaGrave came to America from Bordeaux France at the same time, but went their separate ways. I wonder if your Dennis was another brother who also left his home and family behind?? Parents were William Charles LaGrave (1791-1833) and Marie Narboullet (b. 1791) in Bordeaux. Ann Barsi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sedgwick180 Surnames: Terrance Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You should be aware that the St. Regis (Akwesasne) Reservation lies partly in Franklin County, NY and also Ontario and Quebec Provinces. So records could be found in all three places. I did see the marriage of a Frank Terrance of Franklin NY in 1996 to a Margaret Thompson. It was registered in Stormont, Ontario (Cornwall). Also I noted several Terrance records in the St. Regis Catholic Church (Quebec side). None seemed to match the names you mentioned. Interesting though that when someone with the surname Terrance married in St. Regis, the record showed only the Native name of the father, not Terrance. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmmauser Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the lead - I'll see what I can find out ; ) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LauraDonohue46 Surnames: St. Peters, Watson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16485.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanx! I have Julie in '60, 70 & 80 census, wish I could find them in '50. Know they had to be around Rossie/Hammond/Morristown, it would confirm Jeremiah. There is a Julia St. Peter who has her will proved in 1896, fom some town that starts with a W (WDT article, hard to read. In the 1860 census, in additioon to Mary & Janett being in th orphange in Canton and Julia in Morristown with Catherine. There is a Catherine St. Peters living Joseph & Catherine Watson in Rossie, I beleive they are the same person and am trying to establish a link. Joseph is my 3xG Grandfather. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stow3 Surnames: St Peter Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16485.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Julia A. St Peter and children Catherine, Betsey, John and James are in the 1860 census of Morristown, St Lawrence Co, NY. The census page is numbered 27. The last name appears to have been spelled St Petre in this census. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: J_Makowiec Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Akwesasne Office of Vital Statistics has a web page: http://www.akwesasne.ca/ovs.html Contact them and find out what records they have. There's also a bit about Haudenosaunee culture on the site. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmmauser Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the speedy reply. Unfortunately our info on them is rather vague - we do know that Katherine Isaacs was born about 1912 and that Nancy Isaacs was born about 1905 - no month or year : ( Frank Terrance, who was either the father or step father, was born about 1876, and their mother Margaret (Isaacs) Terrance (no maiden name known) was born about 1880. This isn't much to go on - Thanks for any help you can give. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any dates for these people?? Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmmauser Surnames: ISAACS, TERRANCE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.saintlawrence/16486/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to assist my brother-in-law with his Genealogy. His great grandmother on his father's side is listed as Margaret Isaacs Terrance, living on the St. Regis Reservation, and is listed as Mowhawk Indian. Her husband is listed as Frank Terrance, but both daughters are listed with the last name Isaacs - Katherine and Nancy. I am trying to learn anything I can about the Mowhawk culture and about record keeping around the turn of the century on the Mowhawk reservations. I'd like to determine if Frank Terrance was the father of Katherine and Nancy, or if they had a different father - a birth certificate could help, but I'm not sure how to obtain that. Any information would be helpful! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.